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On January 04 2014 01:46 Eufouria wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2014 00:22 decafchicken wrote:http://imgur.com/a/H6lxdBig album, bunch of sequence shots and other pics of my lifting and PRs from last week! My fave: + Show Spoiler +That is the look of 9 months of work paying off (i first cleaned 165kg back in march and finally jerked it last week to combine with my snatch for a 6kg PR on my total) Nice lift man. What do you think about your wrist position though? You know much more about olympic lifting than me so I'm probably wrong, but doesn't having your wrists so far back put a lot of strain on them?
Yeah, I noticed the same thing...
but I suppose it's a "yeah, if it's not bothering you don't worry about it" kind of thing.
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Wrist mechanics are one of the areas in which individual makeups are most divergent. In other words, genetic differentiation in the wrist makes variation in form among individuals inevitable.
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I have a question about the mixed grip while deadlifting. Does it make that much of a difference if I use a mixed grip? According to Jason Blaha he said that he thinks it's better and it won't cause muscle imbalances. I found today that it made my deadlifts really easy and that I could get into the starting position better and pull the weight more easily.
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On January 04 2014 03:51 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
I have a question about the mixed grip while deadlifting. Does it make that much of a difference if I use a mixed grip? According to Jason Blaha he said that he thinks it's better and it won't cause muscle imbalances. I found today that it made my deadlifts really easy and that I could get into the starting position better and pull the weight more easily.
The general consensus that I see online is to train standard grip for warmups and then switch to mixed for the work set if your grip is giving up. Mixed doesn't train your grip as well as standard does, but the work set shouldn't be limited by your grip since that isn't the main focus of the lift.
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I may be mistaken but I think the reason it feels easier is because the opposing grips counteract the bar wanting to roll out of your grip. Your body has a built in protective mechanism that whenever it feels your grip is unable to hold an object it inhibits your other muscles from working to lift the object so you don't hurt yourself. With good form/training mixed grip in a way bypasses the grip limitation. A lot of strength is cns.
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Plus if you alternate your mixed grip there really shouldn't be any imbalance coming up.
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On January 04 2014 04:34 mordek wrote:
I may be mistaken but I think the reason it feels easier is because the opposing grips counteract the bar wanting to roll out of your grip. Your body has a built in protective mechanism that whenever it feels your grip is unable to hold an object it inhibits your other muscles from working to lift the object so you don't hurt yourself. With good form/training mixed grip in a way bypasses the grip limitation. A lot of strength is cns.
Yep, same reason olympic lifters use hookgrip, its a way to get the benefits of mixed grip to stop the rolling of the bar while you pull it while still using double overhand.
On January 04 2014 01:46 Eufouria wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2014 00:22 decafchicken wrote:http://imgur.com/a/H6lxdBig album, bunch of sequence shots and other pics of my lifting and PRs from last week! My fave: + Show Spoiler +That is the look of 9 months of work paying off (i first cleaned 165kg back in march and finally jerked it last week to combine with my snatch for a 6kg PR on my total) Nice lift man. What do you think about your wrist position though? You know much more about olympic lifting than me so I'm probably wrong, but doesn't having your wrists so far back put a lot of strain on them?
No idea, i almost never have wrist pain and if i do it's usually from something rugby related. If they're hurting at all I put a few pieces of tape around them and i'm good to go.
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That's why I use straps on long or heavy sets.
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On January 04 2014 08:18 IgnE wrote:
That's why I use straps on long or heavy sets.
Yeah but your definition of heavy and my definition of heavy are completely different. I still don't DL enough that it would make any sense for me to use straps.
And I could probably keep lifting with double overhand for a while, but the advantages of mixed are starting to become more apparent as the lifts get a bit heavier. The pull off the ground is no longer hard for me; locking out is getting a bit more difficult though.
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It's worth taking a measurement of your wrists before deciding on straps or not. If your wrist circumference is around 6.5 inches or less, strap use is imperative to putting weight on your DL.
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On January 04 2014 08:32 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2014 08:18 IgnE wrote:
That's why I use straps on long or heavy sets. Yeah but your definition of heavy and my definition of heavy are completely different. I still don't DL enough that it would make any sense for me to use straps. And I could probably keep lifting with double overhand for a while, but the advantages of mixed are starting to become more apparent as the lifts get a bit heavier. The pull off the ground is no longer hard for me; locking out is getting a bit more difficult though.
If you can lift more weight with a mixed grip it's worth using a mixed grip. You don't want to your deadlift progress to be limited to your grip progress. As others have said keep using an overhand grip for your warmup sets and if your really worried you could alternate your over and under hands between sets, but I don't think that's really necessary.
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On January 04 2014 10:00 farvacola wrote:
It's worth taking a measurement of your wrists before deciding on straps or not. If your wrist circumference is around 6.5 inches or less, strap use is imperative to putting weight on your DL.
lol mine are over 8". I have giant bear paws for hands though.
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Lol you bastard. Feel my pain as a 6'2, 250 dude with 6 inch wrists 
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On January 04 2014 10:38 farvacola wrote:Lol you bastard. Feel my pain as a 6'2, 250 dude with 6 inch wrists
haha brutal! My hands are so big I can practically hookgrip an axle bar ^_^
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On January 04 2014 11:01 decafchicken wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2014 10:38 farvacola wrote:Lol you bastard. Feel my pain as a 6'2, 250 dude with 6 inch wrists haha brutal! My hands are so big I can practically hookgrip an axle bar ^_^
QQ My hands are just barely bigger than my 4'10" physics lab partner from Thailand, and I have wrists to match 
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I wear wrist wraps all the time and I've never missed a deadlift because of grip. Only take them off on singles with 85%++ to practice technique a few weeks from competition.
Provided you do ANY forearm work you should be ok. I do high rep forearm curls and "finger barbell rolls" from time to time.
You can't really grind deadlifts without straps, anything over 3 secs with a heavy weights is almost impossible.
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