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decafchicken
United States20168 Posts
On December 31 2013 07:23 farvacola wrote: I swear by Trigger Point's The Grid line of rollers, but they can be rather intense for those unaccustomed to stiffer rollers. I second this. Love mine. | ||
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MtlGuitarist97
United States1539 Posts
On December 31 2013 07:18 autoexec wrote: Quick off topic question here guys. Do any of you have any personal recommendations for foam rollers that work well? I am looking to buy one but don't really know where to start. I'm guessing the firmer the better? If you want one that's built like a tank and is relatively decently priced, the M80 is a good roller. The grid seems to work well also. | ||
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IgnE
United States7681 Posts
On December 31 2013 09:01 MtlGuitarist97 wrote: If you want one that's built like a tank and is relatively decently priced, the M80 is a good roller. The grid seems to work well also. I like a PVC pipe covered in athletic tape. On December 31 2013 04:19 mishimaBeef wrote: So I just want to say that I'm not here to bash on dairy but merely to investigate the issue with you guys. From the article I posted: Currently, there’s no good evidence that consuming more than one serving of milk per day in addition to a reasonable diet (which typically provides about 300 milligrams of calcium per day from nondairy sources) will reduce fracture risk. Because of unresolved concerns about the risk of ovarian and prostate cancer, it may be prudent to avoid higher intakes of dairy products. At moderate levels, though, consumption of calcium and dairy products has benefits beyond bone health, including possibly lowering the risk of high blood pressure and colon cancer. (20–25) While the blood pressure benefits appear fairly small, the protection against colon cancer seems somewhat larger, and most of the latter benefit comes from having just one or maybe two glasses of milk per day in addition to what we get from other foods in our diet. Getting more than this doesn’t seem to lower risk further. --- So, this is music to my ears because I actually enjoy milk and dairy. I am thinking I may have 1-2 servings per day instead of cutting it out of my diet, but am still not sure on this. I think dairy presents two problems that are mostly unrelated to the flawed China Study and studies that link casein to cancer. The first is that many people are lactose intolerant. The second is that milk proteins are often allergenic, and can lead to increased systemic inflammation and other minor annoyances. Both problems can go "undiagnosed" for years in people because of the prevalence of dairy in our diets. I, personally, feel much better cutting out dairy, because I'm sensitive to both issues. That said, I still drink cold-processed whey isolate after the gym, because I think it's the best protein supplement out there and it doesn't seem to cause too many problems on its own. As to you looking through studies on the benefit of calcium, I humbly submit that you are going about this the wrong way. If you are going to be lifting weights and eating protein, you are not going to have bone fracture risks, high blood pressure problems, and other common chronic diseases that are a result of the western diet. As for cancer, if you went through every study looking for potential carcinogens you would end up dying of starvation out in a desert somewhere away from society. You should try to avoid obvious risks, cultivate health and strength, seek out antioxidants in your diet, and avoid inflammation. Lean body mass is highly correlated with a lower mortality rate for all sorts of diseases and injuries. | ||
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mishimaBeef
Canada2259 Posts
On December 31 2013 09:20 IgnE wrote: The second is that milk proteins are often allergenic, and can lead to increased systemic inflammation and other minor annoyances. Both problems can go "undiagnosed" for years in people because of the prevalence of dairy in our diets. What is your opinion of Gluten as I have read similar things about it. On December 31 2013 09:20 IgnE wrote: That said, I still drink cold-processed whey isolate after the gym, because I think it's the best protein supplement out there and it doesn't seem to cause too many problems on its own. Have you heard of Dr. Mercola? I saw a video and read some stuff where he says isolate is bad for you and you should only use concentrate. Something about D proteins. "The overheated whey protein is a clearly inferior form of whey that should be avoided because it contains putrid proteins, which are actually more damaging to your health than rancid fats. They also change their molecular shape to the wrong form. If you have taken biochemistry you will be familiar with optical isomers. Proteins in foods and in your body are in the L form, but processing used to produce whey isolates produces damaging D optical isomers, which are not designed to be in your body. Depositing these D proteins in your bone, brain and muscle is associated with accelerated aging. Accumulation of D proteins in the brain has been linked to Alzheimer's and Parkinson." Source: http://fitness.mercola.com/sites/fitness/archive/2011/05/11/whey-protein-shown-superior-to-other-milk-proteins-for-building-muscle.aspx I haven't looked deep enough to see if it has any substantial merit as yet though. Also might be a potential bias as he seems to be affiliated with some protein powder. | ||
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mishimaBeef
Canada2259 Posts
On December 31 2013 09:20 IgnE wrote: As to you looking through studies on the benefit of calcium, I humbly submit that you are going about this the wrong way. If you are going to be lifting weights and eating protein, you are not going to have bone fracture risks, high blood pressure problems, and other common chronic diseases that are a result of the western diet. As for cancer, if you went through every study looking for potential carcinogens you would end up dying of starvation out in a desert somewhere away from society. You should try to avoid obvious risks, cultivate health and strength, seek out antioxidants in your diet, and avoid inflammation. Lean body mass is highly correlated with a lower mortality rate for all sorts of diseases and injuries. Thanks, that makes a lot of sense  | ||
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mishimaBeef
Canada2259 Posts
On December 31 2013 06:36 farvacola wrote: If you have an interest in why correlations are particularly unhelpful in the case of cancer and its prevention, give this a read. The nature of cancer, it effectively being the power of living cellular reproduction turned against itself, makes understanding its root causes insofar as daily living habits are concerned rather complicated. The air we breathe, the food we eat, the medicines we do or do not take, the place we live, the places we've been, the people who have come before us, and nothing at all all cause cancer, and the patterns that lie therein are practically infinite. Anyway, check out that book, it's really well written and quite interesting regardless of dietary allegiances. Thanks for pointing out why correlations are particularly unhelpful in the case of cancer and its prevention. Seems a very astute observation in this field. | ||
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mishimaBeef
Canada2259 Posts
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IgnE
United States7681 Posts
On December 31 2013 11:10 mishimaBeef wrote: What is your opinion of Gluten as I have read similar things about it. Have you heard of Dr. Mercola? I saw a video and read some stuff where he says isolate is bad for you and you should only use concentrate. Something about D proteins. "The overheated whey protein is a clearly inferior form of whey that should be avoided because it contains putrid proteins, which are actually more damaging to your health than rancid fats. They also change their molecular shape to the wrong form. If you have taken biochemistry you will be familiar with optical isomers. Proteins in foods and in your body are in the L form, but processing used to produce whey isolates produces damaging D optical isomers, which are not designed to be in your body. Depositing these D proteins in your bone, brain and muscle is associated with accelerated aging. Accumulation of D proteins in the brain has been linked to Alzheimer's and Parkinson." Source: http://fitness.mercola.com/sites/fitness/archive/2011/05/11/whey-protein-shown-superior-to-other-milk-proteins-for-building-muscle.aspx I haven't looked deep enough to see if it has any substantial merit as yet though. Also might be a potential bias as he seems to be affiliated with some protein powder. I don't eat gluten very often because I feel better without it. I have pretty serious indoor and outdoor allergies. You will notice that I used the adjective "cold-processed" in front of whey protein isolate and that Dr. whatshisname talks about "overheated" whey protein. That should answer your question. | ||
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mishimaBeef
Canada2259 Posts
On December 31 2013 11:28 IgnE wrote: You will notice that I used the adjective "cold-processed" in front of whey protein isolate and that Dr. whathisname talks about "overheated" whey protein. That should answer your question. Ah very good, thanks for pointing that out and sorry I missed it. What brand is it that you use? | ||
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ieatkids5
United States4628 Posts
On December 31 2013 11:23 mishimaBeef wrote: Also how do you guys find good studies? Lately I have been tacking "journal study" to the end of my google phrase. http://annals.org/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/ http://www.jstor.org/ http://scholar.google.com/ Great resources for studies. It's up to you to decide whether the study is "good" or not. It's also your job to make sure you're not misinterpreting the studies' findings (if a study concludes that X is linked with Y, you shouldn't interpret that as X causes Y). And feel free to discuss the study here if you find a particularly interesting one or have questions. It'll open it up for some feedback and input from all of us, and we all might learn a thing or two. btw, try not to triple post  I know TL doesn't let you quote from multiple posts at once, so just open up whatever you want to quote in a new tab and copy/paste that into a single post. | ||
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MtlGuitarist97
United States1539 Posts
On December 31 2013 11:23 mishimaBeef wrote: Also how do you guys find good studies? Lately I have been tacking "journal study" to the end of my google phrase. You could probably try to use scholar.google.com instead of the regular google.com, but that doesn't really prevent shitty studies. It just makes sure they're from reputable sources. | ||
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mishimaBeef
Canada2259 Posts
On December 31 2013 21:12 ieatkids5 wrote: btw, try not to triple post I know TL doesn't let you quote from multiple posts at once, so just open up whatever you want to quote in a new tab and copy/paste that into a single post.@ieatkids5: Thanks and yeah, sorry about triple post. @MtlGuitarist97: Thanks --- I am trying to get Any suggestions on good body fat measurement methods? I am 5 feet 10.75 inch (1.8 m), I have a decently thick lower body, but am not too thick in my upper body. I estimate about 73.4 kg (161.7 lbs) to be my target (estimated for 8% body fat). Still, that calculation is based on a rough estimate of my body fat percentage (estimated 15% when I was 175 lbs). At the end of the day I try to use the mirror as the judge but have read that too low of a body fat percentage may pose health risks. Comments/thoughts/questions appreciated. | ||
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MtlGuitarist97
United States1539 Posts
On December 31 2013 22:29 mishimaBeef wrote: @ ieatkids5: Thanks and yeah, sorry about triple post. @MtlGuitarist97: Thanks --- I am trying to get I am 5ft 10.75 inch (1.8 m), I have a decently thick lower body, but am not too thick in my upper body. I estimate about 73.4 kg (161.7 lbs) to be my target (estimated for 8% body fat). Still, that calculation is based on a rough estimate of my body fat percentage (estimated 15% when I was 175 lbs). Any suggestions on good body fat measurement methods? At the end of the day I try to use the mirror as the judge but have read that too low of a body fat percentage may pose health risks. Comments/thoughts/questions appreciated. Just find a method of measuring body fat % and stick with it. Measure your body fat at regular intervals (once a week, every two weeks, etc.), and just track your progress using that first number as a guide. Continue to lift normally, maybe do some HIIT if you want a little bit more help burning fat (not that it's necessary if your diet is good), and try to eat at a slight caloric deficit. It may take a while if you cut down 200 calories a day and slowly raise it by like 100 calories every week or two weeks. I don't really know that much about cutting though, so there are probably better people to ask than me. If you haven't lifted for that long, it's probably better to build more muscle first and then go for abs, but it's your choice. | ||
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NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Netherlands1242 Posts
EDIT: Also is anybody else really happy with this year? I had two brain surgeries that took away the constant headaches and frequent migraines that plagued the first 19+ years of my life, got really good with girls and people in general, achieved a 4.0GPA and gained a lot of lean mass. Should be 220~ 8-10% by June, or at least next December. Really excited about how next year will go and the rest of my life. | ||
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mishimaBeef
Canada2259 Posts
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decafchicken
United States20168 Posts
On January 04 2013 05:50 decafchicken wrote: decafchicken Age: 22 || Height: 6'1 || Weight: 210 lbs/95 kg Starting Date: 01/04/13 || Goal Date: 12/31/13 Goals Weight goals - - 105kg (or at least part way there) Training goals -- 150kg snatch 175kg clean and jerk. 195kg fs 220kg bs. Nutrition goals -- eat big get big so I can move up to 105kg Misc. Goals -- get a fucking job lol. Preferably in a big city, maybe detroit or Chicago with a weightlifting club and a good rugby team. Update: Weight: ~103 Training - 141kg snatch 165kg clean and jerk 170kg clean 193kg fs 230kg bs Misc - got a job in chicago and found a place to lift and play rugby  Not bad considering i wasn't able to jerk for ~4 months and was only doing the classic lifts about once a week during that time. Impressed with how much i accomplished while having the most fun i've ever had. Dunno what the year ahead holds for me, Maybe i'll try to lean out a bit and get in better shape for rugby after the arnold. | ||
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MtlGuitarist97
United States1539 Posts
On January 01 2014 03:25 mishimaBeef wrote: So my electronic scale says 20+%, obviously this method is junk. No, you just need to find a base to start from. If you're really 15% body fat, just lower keep measuring your body fat % using the same scale and you'll see progress (assuming that your scale actually works). You'll see progress as you get leaner, and it should reflect the % of fat you're actually losing, even if it's inaccurate compared to how much fat you actually have. Alternatively, you could actually be at that body fat and you just underestimated initially. Or you can just look in the mirror as Celltech said. Any of those work... | ||
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Dewski
United States68 Posts
Height: 6' 6'0.5" || Weight: ~99kg ~100kg Starting Date: 01/01/13 || Goal Date: 12/31/13 Weight goals -- Get swole (aka lower body fat %) lol. I really don't care about what my bw is but it won't go higher than 110kg which will definitely not happen in the near future. I guess. Not by very much though. Training goals -- Current / Goal FS 128 / 155 150 BS 140 / 170 (probably higher, I haven't maxed back squats in quite a while) 170 Snatch 80 / 95 100 CJ 96 / 115 120 DL 155 / 200 or 2xBW 182 Comfortable with BW exercises. Kind of but not really. Sleep goals -- Get enough of it. Got too much. | ||
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Najda
United States3765 Posts
On January 04 2013 13:31 Najda wrote: + Show Spoiler + Najda Age: 22 || Height: 5'10" || Weight: 135 lbs 61 kg Starting Date: 1/1/13 || Goal Date: 12/31/13 Goals -- 135 / 170 Bodyweight 195 / 340 Squat 205 / 375 Deadlift 135 / 225 Bench ?? / 200 Snatch ?? / 240 Clean and Jerk I'm starting these lifts next week, don't really know what's possible yet. Aiming for a 200 kg total for next year though Misc goals -- Get GM in sc2 finally. Well my goals kinda changed through the year and I didn't start lifting again until late October but my lifts are now: 195 -> 265 Squat 205 -> 235 Deadlift 135 -> 165 Bench at 135 -> 160 Bodyweight (everything in pounds) Ended up not doing olympic weightlifting, have been training muay thai all year instead. Decent progress for what is basically just the last 2 months, only one month of serious programmed training. I feel like I have a good handle on it now and I'm aiming for a 1000 total this coming year. | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
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