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sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
October 10 2013 07:12 GMT
#2681
Klokov's knees are significantly bowed. Is that how he was born or has he bowed them out by nurture?
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19241 Posts
October 10 2013 11:43 GMT
#2682
Klokov rants about loving crossfit but all he does are lifts and some other insane stuff that's not actually crossfit
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
October 10 2013 14:08 GMT
#2683
Loves that crossfit money.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Recognizable
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Netherlands1552 Posts
October 10 2013 14:16 GMT
#2684
His back is huggeee
ludic123
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway161 Posts
October 10 2013 14:21 GMT
#2685
Hi guys

Not sure if this is the right place to post this, buuuuut:
Have any of you guys heard of bio-slimming? Is this actually legit? I don't want a response confirming/discrediting its effectiveness in a single sentence. I want to know why it does/doesn't work. And to clarify; it's not for me. I've had a friend recently try this and thought it sounded like a bunch of bullshit. But seeing as I am not familiar with the science behind it, I can't confirm or disprove its effects.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19241 Posts
October 10 2013 14:26 GMT
#2686
looks like bs to me, and the only science I can find behind it is from their own website:
Bioslimming is a unique formula which combines 4 different products creams/gels. Each product is packed full of plant extracts, pure essential oils, algae extracts, caffeine and thermo agents both hot & cold. The ingredients have been scientifically proven to act on toning, firming,cellulite and fat.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
October 10 2013 14:27 GMT
#2687
It uses the words toning and firming to describe what this gel does lol.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Ahzz
Profile Joined May 2007
Finland780 Posts
October 10 2013 15:14 GMT
#2688
On October 10 2013 23:21 ludic123 wrote:
Hi guys

Not sure if this is the right place to post this, buuuuut:
Have any of you guys heard of bio-slimming? Is this actually legit? I don't want a response confirming/discrediting its effectiveness in a single sentence. I want to know why it does/doesn't work. And to clarify; it's not for me. I've had a friend recently try this and thought it sounded like a bunch of bullshit. But seeing as I am not familiar with the science behind it, I can't confirm or disprove its effects.

What it uses may have had some results in some test subjects, but definately nothing 'proven to work'. There are a lot of products which may mildly increase your metabolism and such, but none of that will work if other effort is not put alongside it. If you're going to put the effort anyway as in changing your diet and perhaps even working out alongside it, you probably wont even notice the difference if I secretly switch your gel with some other random vitamin D product.
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
October 10 2013 16:42 GMT
#2689
Things "proven to work" that actually affect fat loss to a significant degree are illegal, or at the very least require a prescription in most developed countries, as using them improperly is harmful and potentially deadly.

Caffiene has a mild effect on increasing your metabolism.
Green Tea extracts have a mild effect in making your body more apt to burn fat.

I'm sure the rest of the ingredients make up a list of similar statements. What it all boils down to is "if you're putting in the effort in the kitchen and in the gym, this is going to give you an extra 5% over 6 months. If you're not putting in the effort, it won't do anything."

There is no miracle drug. Count your calories.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-10 16:57:13
October 10 2013 16:50 GMT
#2690
Hey guys does anyone have a good HIIT routine I can do on my off days? (currently lifting 4 days/week so I'm looking to work on Cardio on 2 other days.

Also what's the general consensus on supplements (Creatine, Beta Alanine) while cutting?
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
October 10 2013 16:55 GMT
#2691
I love creatine while cutting, woudnt go without it myself. Beta alanine I've had less luck with.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Ahzz
Profile Joined May 2007
Finland780 Posts
October 10 2013 16:55 GMT
#2692
Deload day, feels awesome. 105kg 3x5 squats. Nailed OHP. Also started barbell rows as shown in Stronglifts website to get a upper pull movement.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19241 Posts
October 10 2013 16:56 GMT
#2693
My HIIT is crossfit. vov

Maybe try some stuff on http://www.thetravelingwod.com/
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
October 10 2013 17:01 GMT
#2694
Creatine is awesome for lifting whether you're cutting or not. It makes my face bloat so bad though.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
October 10 2013 17:12 GMT
#2695
On October 11 2013 01:56 tofucake wrote:
My HIIT is crossfit. vov

Maybe try some stuff on http://www.thetravelingwod.com/


Thx that site looks pretty sweet!
concerning Crossfit there's this german series called "natural bodybuilder meets X" and their most recent one was Crossfit
it has eng subtitles too! These workout look really intense for beng only 9-12minutes long!


I gotta question though how effective the "crossfit pullups" are. I saw a vid of a guy doing 100 of those but they look hilarious.
BenKen
Profile Joined August 2009
United States860 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-10 17:37:15
October 10 2013 17:35 GMT
#2696
On October 11 2013 01:50 AsnSensation wrote:
Hey guys does anyone have a good HIIT routine I can do on my off days? (currently lifting 4 days/week so I'm looking to work on Cardio on 2 other days.

Also what's the general consensus on supplements (Creatine, Beta Alanine) while cutting?

I did this for a while, straight off of ExRx.net. Admittedly I didn't look too hard, just wanted something simple to do on off days. Pretty fun if you like sprinting, and you'll definitely feel it.

Traditional Sprints (Outdoor on Track)

Warmup
2 min brisk walk then 25% jog (30 sec)
2 min brisk walk then 50% run (20 sec)
2 min brisk walk then 90% sprint (15 sec)
3 min walk
Workout:
Sprint 100% (5 to 10 sec) then 4 minute walk
Repeat multiple times

Creatine is fine on a cut. You'll retain a little extra water though, so account for that. The benefits of creatine more than make up for a little bloat. I assume beta-alanine would be fine too, but I don't know as much about that. I've actually just started taking beta-alanine just to try it out, not sure if it's helping me out or not yet lol. I do know that it makes my ears tingle.
I deadlift for Aiur
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-10 17:55:55
October 10 2013 17:48 GMT
#2697
On October 11 2013 02:12 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2013 01:56 tofucake wrote:
My HIIT is crossfit. vov

Maybe try some stuff on http://www.thetravelingwod.com/


Thx that site looks pretty sweet!
concerning Crossfit there's this german series called "natural bodybuilder meets X" and their most recent one was Crossfit
it has eng subtitles too! These workout look really intense for beng only 9-12minutes long!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiBxnScGOag

I gotta question though how effective the "crossfit pullups" are. I saw a vid of a guy doing 100 of those but they look hilarious.


How effective they are at what?

Crossfit is a competition. Depending on your level, it's a competition against yourself, against the people at your box, your local area, or even at a national or worldwide level with lots of money on the line. The kipping pullup (or butterfly pullup or whatever you call it/do) is a great tool that can be used to measure your conditioning, shoulder stability, coordination, technique, planning and state of mind. They're as effective a tool to use in competing as the points are in any other event.

For developing back strength like a regular pullup? No, they're not comparitively "effective" - but that's not why you're supposed to be using them. You're doing crossfit to be in shape and get better at crossfit. You do strength training to get better at being strong.

As far as creatine, I never noticed a difference with it. Doesn't make me bloat, doesn't give me anything extra at the gym. I've used it two different times, the first for 3 months straight, the second cycling 1 month on/1 month off for 8 total months. Nothing. I do like to take a caffiene tab about 20 minutes before my workout though, especially if I'm recomping/maintaining or doing keto at the time (lol never cut in 4 years of lifting)

HIIT is fun. I actually like to just take simple exercises (chinups, KB swings, Jumping Rope, pushups, etc - but no burpees, god damn I hate burpees) and make circuits. You could also do sprints (100m repeats, 400m repeats, hill sprints, etc) and there's always sports (rugby, basketball, racquetball are three I've done) that work like HIIT and have the extra benefit of being fun.

There's a quote on a local gym's facebook page that says "We lift heavy things to get stronger. For conditioning, we lift heavy things faster." and that's true too - so don't overthink this.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
October 10 2013 17:52 GMT
#2698
If only everyone who practiced Crossfit felt that way
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
October 10 2013 17:57 GMT
#2699
On October 11 2013 02:48 phyre112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2013 02:12 AsnSensation wrote:
On October 11 2013 01:56 tofucake wrote:
My HIIT is crossfit. vov

Maybe try some stuff on http://www.thetravelingwod.com/


Thx that site looks pretty sweet!
concerning Crossfit there's this german series called "natural bodybuilder meets X" and their most recent one was Crossfit
it has eng subtitles too! These workout look really intense for beng only 9-12minutes long!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiBxnScGOag

I gotta question though how effective the "crossfit pullups" are. I saw a vid of a guy doing 100 of those but they look hilarious.


How effective they are at what?

Crossfit is a competition. Depending on your level, it's a competition against yourself, against the people at your box, your local area, or even at a national or worldwide level with lots of money on the line. The kipping pullup (or butterfly pullup or whatever you call it/do) is a great tool that can be used to measure your conditioning, shoulder stability, coordination, technique, planning and state of mind. They're as effective a tool to use in competing as the points are in any other event.

For developing back strength like a regular pullup? No, they're not comparitively "effective" - but that's not why you're supposed to be using them. You're doing crossfit to be in shape and get better at crossfit. You do strength training to get better at being strong.

As far as creatine, I never noticed a difference with it. Doesn't make me bloat, doesn't give me anything extra at the gym. I've used it two different times, the first for 3 months straight, the second cycling 1 month on/1 month off for 8 total months. Nothing. I do like to take a caffiene tab about 20 minutes before my workout though, especially if I'm recomping/maintaining or doing keto at the time (lol never cut in 4 years of lifting)

HIIT is fun. I actually like to just take simple exercises (chinups, KB swings, Jumping Rope, pushups, etc - but no burpees, god damn I hate burpees) and make circuits. You could also do sprints (100m repeats, 400m repeats, hill sprints, etc) and there's always sports (rugby, basketball, racquetball are three I've done) that work like HIIT and have the extra benefit of being fun.

There's a quote on a local gym's facebook page that says "We lift heavy things to get stronger. For conditioning, we lift heavy things faster." and that's true too - so don't overthink this.



fair point i guess i just came from the biased strength/bodybuilding pov
when I first saw this and didn't see the purpose
http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFit_ChrisSpealler106Pullups.mov
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
October 10 2013 18:08 GMT
#2700
On October 11 2013 02:35 BenKen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2013 01:50 AsnSensation wrote:
Hey guys does anyone have a good HIIT routine I can do on my off days? (currently lifting 4 days/week so I'm looking to work on Cardio on 2 other days.

Also what's the general consensus on supplements (Creatine, Beta Alanine) while cutting?

I did this for a while, straight off of ExRx.net. Admittedly I didn't look too hard, just wanted something simple to do on off days. Pretty fun if you like sprinting, and you'll definitely feel it.

Traditional Sprints (Outdoor on Track)

Warmup
2 min brisk walk then 25% jog (30 sec)
2 min brisk walk then 50% run (20 sec)
2 min brisk walk then 90% sprint (15 sec)
3 min walk
Workout:
Sprint 100% (5 to 10 sec) then 4 minute walk
Repeat multiple times

Creatine is fine on a cut. You'll retain a little extra water though, so account for that. The benefits of creatine more than make up for a little bloat. I assume beta-alanine would be fine too, but I don't know as much about that. I've actually just started taking beta-alanine just to try it out, not sure if it's helping me out or not yet lol. I do know that it makes my ears tingle.


ty!
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