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On May 05 2013 19:26 Mafe wrote:In other news: Ref dies after being attacked by playerI'm normally trying to resist the urge to call for "more laws", but I really think football could need less tolerance for just arguing with refs. Unfortunately, often enough the ref gets calls wrongs, but as he's almost never gonna reverse a call, we might just issue a yellow card to any player starting to argue, as it's essentially timewasting. We need to raise players to respect refs from their first game on. Obviously helping to improve ref performances in general would also help and making sure refs would face some kind of off-field consequences if they make mistakes (FIFA doesn't seem to like this however), but I believe the ref should be seen as "untouchable" even if he's blatantly wrong.
As long as referees themselves dont say they have too much power or start admitting when they had been wrong I dont see why I should pity them.
Most referess are power hungry individuals who love to abuse their power. If they can't stand to their decisions they should stop being one.
Of course players shouldnt be able to kill a referee...
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On May 05 2013 21:23 Ferrose wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2013 20:57 Ysellian wrote:
Yeah I hate that as well. I think Uefa/Fifa's inability to tackle that issue is really sending a bad message. I don't have a problem with arguing with officials per se. It's part of the game, and the players would have to be superhuman to not get upset at a call they disagree with. But there needs to be repercussions for players who don't let go of the issue. It should start even deeper than UEFA/FIFA, with the FAs of each nation. They need to review footage and fine players who argue with officials too much, players who dive, players who make really poor tackles , etc. Guarantee you players would think twice about doing stupid shit if they knew they'd be fined a week's wages (or even a smaller amount, like a couple thousand pounds/euros).
There is nothing wrong with a few exchange of words, but persistent arguing and especially arguing when you know you are wrong is just pathetic. I was a big mouth in youth teams, but I quickly learned to shut my mouth because every card was costing me 15 euro's. Nobody likes a zombie, but a bit of self control isn't much to ask.
edit: And teammates shouldn't be arguing along with you, but telling you to shut up. That's what my teammates did with me.
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This reminds me of an interview Platini did. He explained how, when he was 18, he met two styles of referee. One of them will let him complain, and sometimes answer back, while the other one gave him a yellow card immediately after Platini started discussing. Whenever he played and the second referee was on the field, he would stay quiet.
I think both players and referees need to work on that, I especially hate when referees run in front of players, or give yellow cards in a more agressive way than necessary.
The captain should be the only one able to discuss with the referee in the team, I will really appreciate some kind of rule to prevent players overreaction. Verratti might be a desperate case tho
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lol, Merseyside Derby, someone in the Everton section lights off a smoke bomb/flare and the wind blows the smoke right back in their faces xD
On May 05 2013 21:40 Ysellian wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2013 21:23 Ferrose wrote:On May 05 2013 20:57 Ysellian wrote:
Yeah I hate that as well. I think Uefa/Fifa's inability to tackle that issue is really sending a bad message. I don't have a problem with arguing with officials per se. It's part of the game, and the players would have to be superhuman to not get upset at a call they disagree with. But there needs to be repercussions for players who don't let go of the issue. It should start even deeper than UEFA/FIFA, with the FAs of each nation. They need to review footage and fine players who argue with officials too much, players who dive, players who make really poor tackles , etc. Guarantee you players would think twice about doing stupid shit if they knew they'd be fined a week's wages (or even a smaller amount, like a couple thousand pounds/euros). There is nothing wrong with a few exchange of words, but persistent arguing and especially arguing when you know you are wrong is just pathetic. I was a big mouth in youth teams, but I quickly learned to shut my mouth because every card was costing me 15 euro's. Nobody likes a zombie, but a bit of self control isn't much to ask. edit: And teammates shouldn't be arguing along with you, but telling you to shut up. That's what my teammates did with me.
Exactly. 15 euros doesn't seem like much, but anyone would rather have the money than not have it. And after a few times you're suddenly out 60 euros, and really regret what you did.
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What a weird call. Felt that Everton should have got a goal there.
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We were discussing arguing with refs and we just got a good example of what should be warranted. Everton should have got a goal.
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That derby was lame. How do you only have three yellow cards in a derby?
And yeah, Everton really got cheated there. There was no foul on that goal.
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Nvm.. Just saw the starting lineup...
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Mark from Sheffield on text: "If Chelsea win, Champions League qualification is all but theirs. Man U would have a greater chance of signing Bale in the summer. Fergie picks a weakened team. Coincidence?"
Haha, sometimes I'd really love to know what managers think XD
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Howard Webb is such a united supporter
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On May 05 2013 21:02 sc4k wrote:
We need technical fouls like basketball. Complain to the ref excitedly gets you a warning. Get in the refs face gets you yellow. Bother him for more than 10 seconds gets you a red. Need a couple of matches where every player on one team is sent off for crowding the ref...would soon sort it out.
Hope the teen sees justice and goes to jail. That Belhanda bribery is so obvious and disgraceful as well.
Yellow cards are almost exactly like technical fouls, it's just they give them more harshly and immediately for arguing in basketball. Though there's no on-field immediate punishment. Maybe if it was like you got put in the "penalty box" like hockey for 2-5 minutes for any yellow card, there would also be less tactical fouling which would be a definite positive in my eyes.
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On May 06 2013 00:18 sharkie wrote:
Mark from Sheffield on text: "If Chelsea win, Champions League qualification is all but theirs. Man U would have a greater chance of signing Bale in the summer. Fergie picks a weakened team. Coincidence?"
Haha, sometimes I'd really love to know what managers think XD
Haha, well if playing champions league or not could affect player signings in Football manager I would definitely do the same thing. It probably crossed Fergie's mind.
Still it's tough to tell a team to go out and lose. Sometimes even b-squads end up performing well enough for a victory.
EDIT: Well Chelsea deserved that!
On May 06 2013 01:43 sc4k wrote:
WHAT A FUCKING TEAM GOAL YES RAMIRES WELL DONE FOR NOT SHOOTING
Yeah amazing composure to not shoot there and great vision from Oscar. Also great tackle to win the ball from Ramires.
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WHAT A FUCKING TEAM GOAL YES RAMIRES WELL DONE FOR NOT SHOOTING
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Well, that was a pretty ugly situation. Both players looking pretty silly there.
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omg that evil smile from Luiz XD. Someone gif that
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On May 06 2013 01:46 Ysellian wrote:
omg that evil smile from Luiz XD. Someone gif that
My god everytime I see one of those Silva kids play a game where they get out hustled by someone I feel like theres a petulant gaff coming.
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Rafael shouldn't have done that, but luiz also shouldn't behave like busquets.
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What a result for us Chelsea fans, man, that was fantastic.
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What the fuck i'm so frigging pissed off. United were playing like shit today. Fucking sell Valencia Cleverly Anderson cos they played like crap. OMG.
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