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Something is wrong with Mourinho and Real Madrid, When Pepe is against him in his interviews. Pepe, yes, his loyal Hunting dog, is criticizing him now.
Mou his going to leave almost sure. Only Xabi Alonso is at his side.
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Pandemona
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Well i think, there is no point "sticking" by Mourinho's side now as they pretty much know he is leaving. So if you say yeah i want him to stay i like him etc as a Madrid player your pretty much making yourself up for a Transfer in Summer xD
But it is strange that Pepe come out and say that, like you say he normally has excellent relationship with the Portuguese contingent
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On May 06 2013 01:46 Ysellian wrote:
omg that evil smile from Luiz XD. Someone gif that
![[image loading]](http://i.minus.com/ibddC6SZ22kh0n.gif)
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Looks like Madrid will go in to major rebuilding mode after this season, with mourinho and a host of players going to be sold. Di maria, higuain, pepe, xabi alonso, coentrao, and a few more bench players.
I do agree with what madrid are doing because all of these players, with the exception of xabi alsonso, really aren't world class as we've found out this year. The manager they will get seems to be ancelotti, which i disagree with. I really think they should go as hard as they can for klopp, or maybe even bring back jupp heynckes. Don't think ancelotti will be a great manager.
The biggest question for madrid seems to be whether they keep ronaldo. Personally, i'd let him go. He can't be replaced, as there is only one player in his class, but keeping him will cost like 50 million pounds because of the beckham rule in spain. With that money and the money they'll get from selling the above players, I'd go and try to get bale, cavani/falcao, zabaleta, and get some more depth.
For barca, I really don't think they're far away from continuing their reign of dominance(besides this year). Sell alexis, villa, fabregas, afellay, dos santos, alves, and idk who else. I really hope they don't buy neymar, although it looks more likely by the day. He won't fit because he doesn't know how to play tactically, which is what screwed fabregas at barca, is an overrated finisher, and don't bring the physique barca need.
With the money to buy neymar, i'd go for falcao. He'd be a great LF at barca, and considering messi plays that false nine and drops so deep, he could drift inside and really play CF. Tito doesn't have as much attitude as guardiola and would probably get along with these kinds of players fine.
It still astounds me how barca haven't bought a defender all these years. Hummels would be a perfect fit for them because of his passing and ball control.
With fabregas going and xavi getting older, i'd try and get gundogan.
One of the concerns i have with the dortmund players is whether they're actually good, or if its because klopp always has them in the right places(sahin).
Well, these are just a few of my thoughts on the two biggest teams in spain
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On May 06 2013 11:28 Tazza wrote:
Looks like Madrid will go in to major rebuilding mode after this season, with mourinho and a host of players going to be sold. Di maria, higuain, pepe, xabi alonso, coentrao, and a few more bench players.
I do agree with what madrid are doing because all of these players, with the exception of xabi alsonso, really aren't world class as we've found out this year. The manager they will get seems to be ancelotti, which i disagree with. I really think they should go as hard as they can for klopp, or maybe even bring back jupp heynckes. Don't think ancelotti will be a great manager.
The biggest question for madrid seems to be whether they keep ronaldo. Personally, i'd let him go. He can't be replaced, as there is only one player in his class, but keeping him will cost like 50 million pounds because of the beckham rule in spain. With that money and the money they'll get from selling the above players, I'd go and try to get bale, cavani/falcao, zabaleta, and get some more depth.
For barca, I really don't think they're far away from continuing their reign of dominance(besides this year). Sell alexis, villa, fabregas, afellay, dos santos, alves, and idk who else. I really hope they don't buy neymar, although it looks more likely by the day. He won't fit because he doesn't know how to play tactically, which is what screwed fabregas at barca, is an overrated finisher, and don't bring the physique barca need.
With the money to buy neymar, i'd go for falcao. He'd be a great LF at barca, and considering messi plays that false nine and drops so deep, he could drift inside and really play CF. Tito doesn't have as much attitude as guardiola and would probably get along with these kinds of players fine.
It still astounds me how barca haven't bought a defender all these years. Hummels would be a perfect fit for them because of his passing and ball control.
With fabregas going and xavi getting older, i'd try and get gundogan.
One of the concerns i have with the dortmund players is whether they're actually good, or if its because klopp always has them in the right places(sahin).
Well, these are just a few of my thoughts on the two biggest teams in spain
This isn´t football manager 
The roster of Real isn´t that bad or old that you need to rebuild it. Maybe another defender and another offensive threat to give Ronaldo more space.
With the coaching problems well its known that mou loves his mindgames with the press and with his players. Which works for a couple of seasons if you have success but it is backfiring in the long run. Normally this is all tactics to get pressure of the team by getting the press to focus on him and not on the team but i think with the demotion of Cassilias for no reason (i know he was injured but he is still one of the best) he basically said that this season is his last shot with Real.
Heynkes will end his carrier 99% after this season and i dont think that klopp is the right coach for the environment of Real.
I agree on not buying Neymar. I personally think that he is pretty overated yes, he is good but good in the Brasilian league. And paying 50+ million € on somebody who never played a champions league game is an enormous risk.
And from a roster flexibility point of view he dont fit. He is another small, technically almost perfect player that can handle the ball really well but has no physical presence at all. That was the main problem against Bayern, they were just no match for the physical superiority of Schweinsteiger/Martinez.
Guardiola tried to fix that a couple of years ago with Ibra which unfortunately doesn´t worked.
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On May 06 2013 08:33 Pandemona wrote:
Well i think, there is no point "sticking" by Mourinho's side now as they pretty much know he is leaving. So if you say yeah i want him to stay i like him etc as a Madrid player your pretty much making yourself up for a Transfer in Summer xD
But it is strange that Pepe come out and say that, like you say he normally has excellent relationship with the Portuguese contingent
Well Mou insulted Casillas yet again. He had to take a side clearly now, he wants to stay and he did.
Otherwise he might get transfered for being mental 
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On May 06 2013 09:45 Ferrose wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2013 01:46 Ysellian wrote:
omg that evil smile from Luiz XD. Someone gif that
Thanks! So funny to watch haha, need to send this to a couple friends.
Btw, I've been having a big of an argument about this, but has Sian Massey ever gotten a call wrong? She is probably the best assistant referee in the game.
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On May 06 2013 15:36 USvBleakill wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2013 11:28 Tazza wrote:
Looks like Madrid will go in to major rebuilding mode after this season, with mourinho and a host of players going to be sold. Di maria, higuain, pepe, xabi alonso, coentrao, and a few more bench players.
I do agree with what madrid are doing because all of these players, with the exception of xabi alsonso, really aren't world class as we've found out this year. The manager they will get seems to be ancelotti, which i disagree with. I really think they should go as hard as they can for klopp, or maybe even bring back jupp heynckes. Don't think ancelotti will be a great manager.
The biggest question for madrid seems to be whether they keep ronaldo. Personally, i'd let him go. He can't be replaced, as there is only one player in his class, but keeping him will cost like 50 million pounds because of the beckham rule in spain. With that money and the money they'll get from selling the above players, I'd go and try to get bale, cavani/falcao, zabaleta, and get some more depth.
For barca, I really don't think they're far away from continuing their reign of dominance(besides this year). Sell alexis, villa, fabregas, afellay, dos santos, alves, and idk who else. I really hope they don't buy neymar, although it looks more likely by the day. He won't fit because he doesn't know how to play tactically, which is what screwed fabregas at barca, is an overrated finisher, and don't bring the physique barca need.
With the money to buy neymar, i'd go for falcao. He'd be a great LF at barca, and considering messi plays that false nine and drops so deep, he could drift inside and really play CF. Tito doesn't have as much attitude as guardiola and would probably get along with these kinds of players fine.
It still astounds me how barca haven't bought a defender all these years. Hummels would be a perfect fit for them because of his passing and ball control.
With fabregas going and xavi getting older, i'd try and get gundogan.
One of the concerns i have with the dortmund players is whether they're actually good, or if its because klopp always has them in the right places(sahin).
Well, these are just a few of my thoughts on the two biggest teams in spain This isn´t football manager The roster of Real isn´t that bad or old that you need to rebuild it. Maybe another defender and another offensive threat to give Ronaldo more space. With the coaching problems well its known that mou loves his mindgames with the press and with his players. Which works for a couple of seasons if you have success but it is backfiring in the long run. Normally this is all tactics to get pressure of the team by getting the press to focus on him and not on the team but i think with the demotion of Cassilias for no reason (i know he was injured but he is still one of the best) he basically said that this season is his last shot with Real. Heynkes will end his carrier 99% after this season and i dont think that klopp is the right coach for the environment of Real. I agree on not buying Neymar. I personally think that he is pretty overated yes, he is good but good in the Brasilian league. And paying 50+ million € on somebody who never played a champions league game is an enormous risk. And from a roster flexibility point of view he dont fit. He is another small, technically almost perfect player that can handle the ball really well but has no physical presence at all. That was the main problem against Bayern, they were just no match for the physical superiority of Schweinsteiger/Martinez. Guardiola tried to fix that a couple of years ago with Ibra which unfortunately doesn´t worked.
Haha, i wish it was football manager.
But in all seriousness, I agree that madrid's team isn't bad, but thats not where they want to be. With the amount of money they spend, they want to win every thing they can every year. But they're not going to be winning anything, not even la liga, with all these players going.
If these players leave, they have absolutely no depth at CB(varane and ramos). Pretty much no one at the fullback position except marcelo. One defensive midfielder in sami khedira. Lack of talent at the wing positions unless they sign ronaldo and an inconsistent benzema up front. Oh, and a goalkeeper controversy for the new manager.
For me, that's a rebuilding team. The only position they're good at is the creative midfield with modric and ozil.
and i don't think its 99% certain that heynckes will retire. maybe like 65%? i think he's pissed that guardiola is coming in and might try to prove bayern wrong. Klopp, eh, yeah, maybe he won't fit, but this guy is a crazy good manager, especially considering that the whole dortmund team cost less than kaka.
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Well for once Mourinho isn't being fired, if it were up to Florentino he would had stayed for a very long time and Casillas would be cut out. Perez promised that to Mourinho before the 2nd match of RO8 CL knowing that there are election for club pressident this summer and Perez was the only serious contender. Now there is a serious competitor that will be revealed after Copa Del Rey final, so Perez refrain from touching Casillas as it will create a shitstorm that will put his re-election in serious doubt, so Mourinho is feeling betraid.
I've been a long time fan of Casillas, but him trying to undermine Mourinho the entire year is stupid and very selfish and I think Sarah Carbonero has a hand in it though it is unclear to me if she is directed by Iker or the other way around, and it came with a serious decline in his performance.
As for Pepe, I never liked him. He is stupid as a brick, and now he is revealed as a backstabbing jerk to the person that unquestionably supported him when the entire world called him terrorist.
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Mou made Madrid a joke team. They went from a losing team with honor to a losing team without it. That's why Casillas hates him and leaked all the info to his wife.
It's Mou lack of morale and class that made all that happen, it's as easy as that. Best villain ever.
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On May 06 2013 17:37 Salteador Neo wrote:
Mou made Madrid a joke team. They went from a losing team with honor to a losing team without it. That's why Casillas hates him and leaked all the info to his wife.
It's Mou lack of morale and class that made all that happen, it's as easy as that. Best villain ever.
He won La Liga against the best team ever? How is that a losing team lol
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On May 06 2013 16:57 Tazza wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2013 15:36 USvBleakill wrote:On May 06 2013 11:28 Tazza wrote:
Looks like Madrid will go in to major rebuilding mode after this season, with mourinho and a host of players going to be sold. Di maria, higuain, pepe, xabi alonso, coentrao, and a few more bench players.
I do agree with what madrid are doing because all of these players, with the exception of xabi alsonso, really aren't world class as we've found out this year. The manager they will get seems to be ancelotti, which i disagree with. I really think they should go as hard as they can for klopp, or maybe even bring back jupp heynckes. Don't think ancelotti will be a great manager.
The biggest question for madrid seems to be whether they keep ronaldo. Personally, i'd let him go. He can't be replaced, as there is only one player in his class, but keeping him will cost like 50 million pounds because of the beckham rule in spain. With that money and the money they'll get from selling the above players, I'd go and try to get bale, cavani/falcao, zabaleta, and get some more depth.
For barca, I really don't think they're far away from continuing their reign of dominance(besides this year). Sell alexis, villa, fabregas, afellay, dos santos, alves, and idk who else. I really hope they don't buy neymar, although it looks more likely by the day. He won't fit because he doesn't know how to play tactically, which is what screwed fabregas at barca, is an overrated finisher, and don't bring the physique barca need.
With the money to buy neymar, i'd go for falcao. He'd be a great LF at barca, and considering messi plays that false nine and drops so deep, he could drift inside and really play CF. Tito doesn't have as much attitude as guardiola and would probably get along with these kinds of players fine.
It still astounds me how barca haven't bought a defender all these years. Hummels would be a perfect fit for them because of his passing and ball control.
With fabregas going and xavi getting older, i'd try and get gundogan.
One of the concerns i have with the dortmund players is whether they're actually good, or if its because klopp always has them in the right places(sahin).
Well, these are just a few of my thoughts on the two biggest teams in spain This isn´t football manager The roster of Real isn´t that bad or old that you need to rebuild it. Maybe another defender and another offensive threat to give Ronaldo more space. With the coaching problems well its known that mou loves his mindgames with the press and with his players. Which works for a couple of seasons if you have success but it is backfiring in the long run. Normally this is all tactics to get pressure of the team by getting the press to focus on him and not on the team but i think with the demotion of Cassilias for no reason (i know he was injured but he is still one of the best) he basically said that this season is his last shot with Real. Heynkes will end his carrier 99% after this season and i dont think that klopp is the right coach for the environment of Real. I agree on not buying Neymar. I personally think that he is pretty overated yes, he is good but good in the Brasilian league. And paying 50+ million € on somebody who never played a champions league game is an enormous risk. And from a roster flexibility point of view he dont fit. He is another small, technically almost perfect player that can handle the ball really well but has no physical presence at all. That was the main problem against Bayern, they were just no match for the physical superiority of Schweinsteiger/Martinez. Guardiola tried to fix that a couple of years ago with Ibra which unfortunately doesn´t worked. Haha, i wish it was football manager. But in all seriousness, I agree that madrid's team isn't bad, but thats not where they want to be. With the amount of money they spend, they want to win every thing they can every year. But they're not going to be winning anything, not even la liga, with all these players going. If these players leave, they have absolutely no depth at CB(varane and ramos). Pretty much no one at the fullback position except marcelo. One defensive midfielder in sami khedira. Lack of talent at the wing positions unless they sign ronaldo and an inconsistent benzema up front. Oh, and a goalkeeper controversy for the new manager. For me, that's a rebuilding team. The only position they're good at is the creative midfield with modric and ozil. and i don't think its 99% certain that heynckes will retire. maybe like 65%? i think he's pissed that guardiola is coming in and might try to prove bayern wrong. Klopp, eh, yeah, maybe he won't fit, but this guy is a crazy good manager, especially considering that the whole dortmund team cost less than kaka.
I think Barcelona and especially Real could have some problem to sign up the (young) very best. With the finance crisis in spain (remember Ronaldo is basically owen by a spain bank that was bailed out by the eu) they can´t just throw money left and right like they did.
Heynkes said it after the CL semi final that its time to go. He is 67 and in this season he could win all possible titles with Bayern (Bundesliga is won with a couple of records, ). Not the worst way to retire....
And with Klopp, i don´t know. Yes he won 2 national championships and is in the CL final but it feels more like he was the right guy at the right place and time. Not sure if he could work in another environment.
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On May 06 2013 17:54 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2013 17:37 Salteador Neo wrote:
Mou made Madrid a joke team. They went from a losing team with honor to a losing team without it. That's why Casillas hates him and leaked all the info to his wife.
It's Mou lack of morale and class that made all that happen, it's as easy as that. Best villain ever. He won La Liga against the best team ever? How is that a losing team lol
1 Liga in three years and no CL is a failure for Moudrid, this is an easy one xD Check the budget and all the big signings too.
The "best team ever" has won 4 Ligas in the past 5 years, for example.
Also it's not only about winning games, but how you do it and how you behave. Just like Van Gaal at Barça, Madrid fans are tired of Mou's shit.
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On May 06 2013 17:59 Salteador Neo wrote:
Just like Van Gaal at Barça, Madrid fans are tired of Mou's shit.
Appearantly not.
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On May 06 2013 17:59 Salteador Neo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2013 17:54 sharkie wrote:On May 06 2013 17:37 Salteador Neo wrote:
Mou made Madrid a joke team. They went from a losing team with honor to a losing team without it. That's why Casillas hates him and leaked all the info to his wife.
It's Mou lack of morale and class that made all that happen, it's as easy as that. Best villain ever. He won La Liga against the best team ever? How is that a losing team lol 1 Liga in three years and no CL is a failure for Moudrid, this is an easy one xD Check the budget and all the big signings too. The "best team ever" has won 4 Ligas in the past 5 years, for example. Also it's not only about winning games, but how you do it and how you behave. Just like Van Gaal at Barça, Madrid fans are tired of Mou's shit.
Well they hired him to beat Barca and thats what he did.
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On May 06 2013 11:28 Tazza wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Looks like Madrid will go in to major rebuilding mode after this season, with mourinho and a host of players going to be sold. Di maria, higuain, pepe, xabi alonso, coentrao, and a few more bench players.
I do agree with what madrid are doing because all of these players, with the exception of xabi alsonso, really aren't world class as we've found out this year. The manager they will get seems to be ancelotti, which i disagree with. I really think they should go as hard as they can for klopp, or maybe even bring back jupp heynckes. Don't think ancelotti will be a great manager.
The biggest question for madrid seems to be whether they keep ronaldo. Personally, i'd let him go. He can't be replaced, as there is only one player in his class, but keeping him will cost like 50 million pounds because of the beckham rule in spain. With that money and the money they'll get from selling the above players, I'd go and try to get bale, cavani/falcao, zabaleta, and get some more depth.
For barca, I really don't think they're far away from continuing their reign of dominance(besides this year). Sell alexis, villa, fabregas, afellay, dos santos, alves, and idk who else. I really hope they don't buy neymar, although it looks more likely by the day. He won't fit because he doesn't know how to play tactically, which is what screwed fabregas at barca, is an overrated finisher, and don't bring the physique barca need.
With the money to buy neymar, i'd go for falcao. He'd be a great LF at barca, and considering messi plays that false nine and drops so deep, he could drift inside and really play CF. Tito doesn't have as much attitude as guardiola and would probably get along with these kinds of players fine.
It still astounds me how barca haven't bought a defender all these years. Hummels would be a perfect fit for them because of his passing and ball control.
With fabregas going and xavi getting older, i'd try and get gundogan.
One of the concerns i have with the dortmund players is whether they're actually good, or if its because klopp always has them in the right places(sahin).
Well, these are just a few of my thoughts on the two biggest teams in spain
Wow, man, you cleared half of those teams' rosters just like that.
Real and Barcelona aren't that bad, they just need to get rid of one or two bad links in their teams.
Real: needs reliable left back and new striker, perhaps also a central midfielder who's more defensively oriented. But most importantly, they need Iker Casillas back in the goal, regardless of how unprofessional he was with Mourinho and press.
Barcelona: central defender (Hummels seems like perfect fit) and a winger (Alexis and Pedro both unconvincing and they need someone who'd take some attacking burden from Messi). Also, Xavi needs to more often sit on the bench, especially in matches when FCB needs more dynamic playmaking (hopefully Fabregas still remembers how he did in in England).
That's pretty much it. More personal changes are just unrealistic because: A) players on level of skill high enough to strenghten their squad simply don't exist anywhere and B) if they do exist, they're either on other top teams, cost crazy amount of money (Neymar, what a nonsense) or have ridiculous contracts. Or a combination of those.
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On May 06 2013 17:58 USvBleakill wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2013 16:57 Tazza wrote:On May 06 2013 15:36 USvBleakill wrote:On May 06 2013 11:28 Tazza wrote:
Looks like Madrid will go in to major rebuilding mode after this season, with mourinho and a host of players going to be sold. Di maria, higuain, pepe, xabi alonso, coentrao, and a few more bench players.
I do agree with what madrid are doing because all of these players, with the exception of xabi alsonso, really aren't world class as we've found out this year. The manager they will get seems to be ancelotti, which i disagree with. I really think they should go as hard as they can for klopp, or maybe even bring back jupp heynckes. Don't think ancelotti will be a great manager.
The biggest question for madrid seems to be whether they keep ronaldo. Personally, i'd let him go. He can't be replaced, as there is only one player in his class, but keeping him will cost like 50 million pounds because of the beckham rule in spain. With that money and the money they'll get from selling the above players, I'd go and try to get bale, cavani/falcao, zabaleta, and get some more depth.
For barca, I really don't think they're far away from continuing their reign of dominance(besides this year). Sell alexis, villa, fabregas, afellay, dos santos, alves, and idk who else. I really hope they don't buy neymar, although it looks more likely by the day. He won't fit because he doesn't know how to play tactically, which is what screwed fabregas at barca, is an overrated finisher, and don't bring the physique barca need.
With the money to buy neymar, i'd go for falcao. He'd be a great LF at barca, and considering messi plays that false nine and drops so deep, he could drift inside and really play CF. Tito doesn't have as much attitude as guardiola and would probably get along with these kinds of players fine.
It still astounds me how barca haven't bought a defender all these years. Hummels would be a perfect fit for them because of his passing and ball control.
With fabregas going and xavi getting older, i'd try and get gundogan.
One of the concerns i have with the dortmund players is whether they're actually good, or if its because klopp always has them in the right places(sahin).
Well, these are just a few of my thoughts on the two biggest teams in spain This isn´t football manager The roster of Real isn´t that bad or old that you need to rebuild it. Maybe another defender and another offensive threat to give Ronaldo more space. With the coaching problems well its known that mou loves his mindgames with the press and with his players. Which works for a couple of seasons if you have success but it is backfiring in the long run. Normally this is all tactics to get pressure of the team by getting the press to focus on him and not on the team but i think with the demotion of Cassilias for no reason (i know he was injured but he is still one of the best) he basically said that this season is his last shot with Real. Heynkes will end his carrier 99% after this season and i dont think that klopp is the right coach for the environment of Real. I agree on not buying Neymar. I personally think that he is pretty overated yes, he is good but good in the Brasilian league. And paying 50+ million € on somebody who never played a champions league game is an enormous risk. And from a roster flexibility point of view he dont fit. He is another small, technically almost perfect player that can handle the ball really well but has no physical presence at all. That was the main problem against Bayern, they were just no match for the physical superiority of Schweinsteiger/Martinez. Guardiola tried to fix that a couple of years ago with Ibra which unfortunately doesn´t worked. Haha, i wish it was football manager. But in all seriousness, I agree that madrid's team isn't bad, but thats not where they want to be. With the amount of money they spend, they want to win every thing they can every year. But they're not going to be winning anything, not even la liga, with all these players going. If these players leave, they have absolutely no depth at CB(varane and ramos). Pretty much no one at the fullback position except marcelo. One defensive midfielder in sami khedira. Lack of talent at the wing positions unless they sign ronaldo and an inconsistent benzema up front. Oh, and a goalkeeper controversy for the new manager. For me, that's a rebuilding team. The only position they're good at is the creative midfield with modric and ozil. and i don't think its 99% certain that heynckes will retire. maybe like 65%? i think he's pissed that guardiola is coming in and might try to prove bayern wrong. Klopp, eh, yeah, maybe he won't fit, but this guy is a crazy good manager, especially considering that the whole dortmund team cost less than kaka. I think Barcelona and especially Real could have some problem to sign up the (young) very best. With the finance crisis in spain (remember Ronaldo is basically owen by a spain bank that was bailed out by the eu) they can´t just throw money left and right like they did. Heynkes said it after the CL semi final that its time to go. He is 67 and in this season he could win all possible titles with Bayern (Bundesliga is won with a couple of records, ). Not the worst way to retire.... And with Klopp, i don´t know. Yes he won 2 national championships and is in the CL final but it feels more like he was the right guy at the right place and time. Not sure if he could work in another environment.
I don't think it's a matter of "right place right time". By all accounts, the Dortmund team that won in the past two years still wasn't as good as the Bayern squad. Klopp does wonders there and could probably do well other places.
The thing to note is that Klopp has repeatedly told the media that he absolutely will not leave Dortmund after this year.
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On May 06 2013 21:48 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2013 17:58 USvBleakill wrote:On May 06 2013 16:57 Tazza wrote:On May 06 2013 15:36 USvBleakill wrote:On May 06 2013 11:28 Tazza wrote:
Looks like Madrid will go in to major rebuilding mode after this season, with mourinho and a host of players going to be sold. Di maria, higuain, pepe, xabi alonso, coentrao, and a few more bench players.
I do agree with what madrid are doing because all of these players, with the exception of xabi alsonso, really aren't world class as we've found out this year. The manager they will get seems to be ancelotti, which i disagree with. I really think they should go as hard as they can for klopp, or maybe even bring back jupp heynckes. Don't think ancelotti will be a great manager.
The biggest question for madrid seems to be whether they keep ronaldo. Personally, i'd let him go. He can't be replaced, as there is only one player in his class, but keeping him will cost like 50 million pounds because of the beckham rule in spain. With that money and the money they'll get from selling the above players, I'd go and try to get bale, cavani/falcao, zabaleta, and get some more depth.
For barca, I really don't think they're far away from continuing their reign of dominance(besides this year). Sell alexis, villa, fabregas, afellay, dos santos, alves, and idk who else. I really hope they don't buy neymar, although it looks more likely by the day. He won't fit because he doesn't know how to play tactically, which is what screwed fabregas at barca, is an overrated finisher, and don't bring the physique barca need.
With the money to buy neymar, i'd go for falcao. He'd be a great LF at barca, and considering messi plays that false nine and drops so deep, he could drift inside and really play CF. Tito doesn't have as much attitude as guardiola and would probably get along with these kinds of players fine.
It still astounds me how barca haven't bought a defender all these years. Hummels would be a perfect fit for them because of his passing and ball control.
With fabregas going and xavi getting older, i'd try and get gundogan.
One of the concerns i have with the dortmund players is whether they're actually good, or if its because klopp always has them in the right places(sahin).
Well, these are just a few of my thoughts on the two biggest teams in spain This isn´t football manager The roster of Real isn´t that bad or old that you need to rebuild it. Maybe another defender and another offensive threat to give Ronaldo more space. With the coaching problems well its known that mou loves his mindgames with the press and with his players. Which works for a couple of seasons if you have success but it is backfiring in the long run. Normally this is all tactics to get pressure of the team by getting the press to focus on him and not on the team but i think with the demotion of Cassilias for no reason (i know he was injured but he is still one of the best) he basically said that this season is his last shot with Real. Heynkes will end his carrier 99% after this season and i dont think that klopp is the right coach for the environment of Real. I agree on not buying Neymar. I personally think that he is pretty overated yes, he is good but good in the Brasilian league. And paying 50+ million € on somebody who never played a champions league game is an enormous risk. And from a roster flexibility point of view he dont fit. He is another small, technically almost perfect player that can handle the ball really well but has no physical presence at all. That was the main problem against Bayern, they were just no match for the physical superiority of Schweinsteiger/Martinez. Guardiola tried to fix that a couple of years ago with Ibra which unfortunately doesn´t worked. Haha, i wish it was football manager. But in all seriousness, I agree that madrid's team isn't bad, but thats not where they want to be. With the amount of money they spend, they want to win every thing they can every year. But they're not going to be winning anything, not even la liga, with all these players going. If these players leave, they have absolutely no depth at CB(varane and ramos). Pretty much no one at the fullback position except marcelo. One defensive midfielder in sami khedira. Lack of talent at the wing positions unless they sign ronaldo and an inconsistent benzema up front. Oh, and a goalkeeper controversy for the new manager. For me, that's a rebuilding team. The only position they're good at is the creative midfield with modric and ozil. and i don't think its 99% certain that heynckes will retire. maybe like 65%? i think he's pissed that guardiola is coming in and might try to prove bayern wrong. Klopp, eh, yeah, maybe he won't fit, but this guy is a crazy good manager, especially considering that the whole dortmund team cost less than kaka. I think Barcelona and especially Real could have some problem to sign up the (young) very best. With the finance crisis in spain (remember Ronaldo is basically owen by a spain bank that was bailed out by the eu) they can´t just throw money left and right like they did. Heynkes said it after the CL semi final that its time to go. He is 67 and in this season he could win all possible titles with Bayern (Bundesliga is won with a couple of records, ). Not the worst way to retire.... And with Klopp, i don´t know. Yes he won 2 national championships and is in the CL final but it feels more like he was the right guy at the right place and time. Not sure if he could work in another environment. I don't think it's a matter of "right place right time". By all accounts, the Dortmund team that won in the past two years still wasn't as good as the Bayern squad. Klopp does wonders there and could probably do well other places. The thing to note is that Klopp has repeatedly told the media that he absolutely will not leave Dortmund after this year.
I dont want to take away anything from klopp, he did and does an amazing job. But like every coach you need talent in the first place to be successful. In Dortmund he has an environment that fits perfect for his style, but at "big" clubs like Chelsea, Real or Bayern its more about politics and how to handle 22 super star egos. And i´m not sure if he is capable of that yet, remember he is just 46.
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not to mention it takes time for changes to prevail. the first 2 years after klopp joined dortmund only took 5th and 6th place. at bayern or real he would have already been fired 3 times.
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On May 06 2013 23:15 USvBleakill wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2013 21:48 Stratos_speAr wrote:On May 06 2013 17:58 USvBleakill wrote:On May 06 2013 16:57 Tazza wrote:On May 06 2013 15:36 USvBleakill wrote:On May 06 2013 11:28 Tazza wrote:
Looks like Madrid will go in to major rebuilding mode after this season, with mourinho and a host of players going to be sold. Di maria, higuain, pepe, xabi alonso, coentrao, and a few more bench players.
I do agree with what madrid are doing because all of these players, with the exception of xabi alsonso, really aren't world class as we've found out this year. The manager they will get seems to be ancelotti, which i disagree with. I really think they should go as hard as they can for klopp, or maybe even bring back jupp heynckes. Don't think ancelotti will be a great manager.
The biggest question for madrid seems to be whether they keep ronaldo. Personally, i'd let him go. He can't be replaced, as there is only one player in his class, but keeping him will cost like 50 million pounds because of the beckham rule in spain. With that money and the money they'll get from selling the above players, I'd go and try to get bale, cavani/falcao, zabaleta, and get some more depth.
For barca, I really don't think they're far away from continuing their reign of dominance(besides this year). Sell alexis, villa, fabregas, afellay, dos santos, alves, and idk who else. I really hope they don't buy neymar, although it looks more likely by the day. He won't fit because he doesn't know how to play tactically, which is what screwed fabregas at barca, is an overrated finisher, and don't bring the physique barca need.
With the money to buy neymar, i'd go for falcao. He'd be a great LF at barca, and considering messi plays that false nine and drops so deep, he could drift inside and really play CF. Tito doesn't have as much attitude as guardiola and would probably get along with these kinds of players fine.
It still astounds me how barca haven't bought a defender all these years. Hummels would be a perfect fit for them because of his passing and ball control.
With fabregas going and xavi getting older, i'd try and get gundogan.
One of the concerns i have with the dortmund players is whether they're actually good, or if its because klopp always has them in the right places(sahin).
Well, these are just a few of my thoughts on the two biggest teams in spain This isn´t football manager The roster of Real isn´t that bad or old that you need to rebuild it. Maybe another defender and another offensive threat to give Ronaldo more space. With the coaching problems well its known that mou loves his mindgames with the press and with his players. Which works for a couple of seasons if you have success but it is backfiring in the long run. Normally this is all tactics to get pressure of the team by getting the press to focus on him and not on the team but i think with the demotion of Cassilias for no reason (i know he was injured but he is still one of the best) he basically said that this season is his last shot with Real. Heynkes will end his carrier 99% after this season and i dont think that klopp is the right coach for the environment of Real. I agree on not buying Neymar. I personally think that he is pretty overated yes, he is good but good in the Brasilian league. And paying 50+ million € on somebody who never played a champions league game is an enormous risk. And from a roster flexibility point of view he dont fit. He is another small, technically almost perfect player that can handle the ball really well but has no physical presence at all. That was the main problem against Bayern, they were just no match for the physical superiority of Schweinsteiger/Martinez. Guardiola tried to fix that a couple of years ago with Ibra which unfortunately doesn´t worked. Haha, i wish it was football manager. But in all seriousness, I agree that madrid's team isn't bad, but thats not where they want to be. With the amount of money they spend, they want to win every thing they can every year. But they're not going to be winning anything, not even la liga, with all these players going. If these players leave, they have absolutely no depth at CB(varane and ramos). Pretty much no one at the fullback position except marcelo. One defensive midfielder in sami khedira. Lack of talent at the wing positions unless they sign ronaldo and an inconsistent benzema up front. Oh, and a goalkeeper controversy for the new manager. For me, that's a rebuilding team. The only position they're good at is the creative midfield with modric and ozil. and i don't think its 99% certain that heynckes will retire. maybe like 65%? i think he's pissed that guardiola is coming in and might try to prove bayern wrong. Klopp, eh, yeah, maybe he won't fit, but this guy is a crazy good manager, especially considering that the whole dortmund team cost less than kaka. I think Barcelona and especially Real could have some problem to sign up the (young) very best. With the finance crisis in spain (remember Ronaldo is basically owen by a spain bank that was bailed out by the eu) they can´t just throw money left and right like they did. Heynkes said it after the CL semi final that its time to go. He is 67 and in this season he could win all possible titles with Bayern (Bundesliga is won with a couple of records, ). Not the worst way to retire.... And with Klopp, i don´t know. Yes he won 2 national championships and is in the CL final but it feels more like he was the right guy at the right place and time. Not sure if he could work in another environment. I don't think it's a matter of "right place right time". By all accounts, the Dortmund team that won in the past two years still wasn't as good as the Bayern squad. Klopp does wonders there and could probably do well other places. The thing to note is that Klopp has repeatedly told the media that he absolutely will not leave Dortmund after this year. I dont want to take away anything from klopp, he did and does an amazing job. But like every coach you need talent in the first place to be successful. In Dortmund he has an environment that fits perfect for his style, but at "big" clubs like Chelsea, Real or Bayern its more about politics and how to handle 22 super star egos. And i´m not sure if he is capable of that yet, remember he is just 46.
"Just 46"
Never thought I'd here that.
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