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kemoryan
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Spain1506 Posts
May 06 2013 23:18 GMT
#7661
Is it too much to ask for a bare minimum of intellectual rigour here? That would in turn give chance to more rational discussions. Not throwing shit at whole fanbases over random comments on a forum could be a good start.
Freedom is a stranger
alwaysfeeling
Profile Joined July 2012
Netherlands55 Posts
May 07 2013 00:10 GMT
#7662
That's what i mean, i didn't mean English people, i meant EPL fans
i always lie
Craze
Profile Joined July 2010
United States561 Posts
May 07 2013 00:10 GMT
#7663
On May 07 2013 07:35 sc4k wrote:
The thing you guys are missing is that Luiz didn't actually dive. Busquets is a diving cock. Luiz doesn't dive. He just went down to Raphael's CLEAR angry kick. Nothing wrong with tweaking the moment to get Raph the red card if it was Raph's attack which was in the wrong. Busquets gets people carded for doing nothing wrong. Raph deserved a red, for kicking in anger.


spot on. too many people here cry about "diving" like they've never played a game of football. If you get kicked hard enough you tend to want to "give way" to the guy kicking you, it is a lot less painful that way. Some people misconstrue this as diving, when in fact you're just protecting yourself. Now, the people who go down without being touched are indeed a disgrace, but Luiz had a legitimate reason to sell that foul.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
May 07 2013 01:03 GMT
#7664
On May 07 2013 05:29 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So if Stoke FC lose this game will this be the biggest choke of all time?




Stoke are definitely staying up I guess. Sigh...
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-07 05:28:01
May 07 2013 05:24 GMT
#7665
On May 07 2013 07:35 sc4k wrote:
The thing you guys are missing is that Luiz didn't actually dive. Busquets is a diving cock. Luiz doesn't dive. He just went down to Raphael's CLEAR angry kick. Nothing wrong with tweaking the moment to get Raph the red card if it was Raph's attack which was in the wrong. Busquets gets people carded for doing nothing wrong. Raph deserved a red, for kicking in anger.


Not that he hasnt been a terrible offender but when do you remember the last time he did anything exhorbitantly theatrical.

Week in week out this season there hasnt been anything painfully amiss.

I dont think theres anything wrong with the David Luiz situation, whether he got hurt or not is irrelevant, its a red card but just keep his reaction in mind regardless that he wasnt hurt and he sold it .. There arent too many high profile acting incidents involving Busquets in particular recently. The micro scope just gets larger when people insist on hating on a series of misdemeanors, I guess Drogba dives are short for the memory.. my word the double standards..
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
May 07 2013 05:40 GMT
#7666
I think the internet helps. Now we have dozens of camera angles that catch David Luiz's face, and slow motion replays and gifs expose dives like never before. A lot of dives don't look like dives in real time imo.

Though I agree with you, it's annoying that no one seems to remember dives unless the player plays for Barca, is of Spanish nationality, or is Luis Suarez.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
May 07 2013 06:41 GMT
#7667
Busquets just waits to make the pass until the very last second or hides the ball well, so people tackle him and get carded.

I'm not even sure if he dived against Chelsea in the famous meme pic. They were so mad for the "bad ref calls" they had to take it on someone. No one remembers the red on Abidal for not touching a guy or the clear penalty by Beckham tho.

Still fun how people consider way worse to dive than to use unfair tackles all game long without seeing a yellow card lol. Alpha males yo.
Revolutionist fan
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-07 08:02:08
May 07 2013 07:58 GMT
#7668
Crazy people xD

Oh well! Not long to go footballer lovers! The season draws ever closer around Europe with some already finished. I'm going to attempt a write up of every league we have covered (the ones in the OP for example). If anyone wants to write up a piece for their domestic league then please PM me before the end of May. The write up will be posted on the 2nd of June! Please if you do write up a piece on your domestic league that you keep it as no bias as possible
I will probably just blog the write up, and i am pretty happy to write up all the domestic leagues we cover myself but i thought i'd give people the opportunity to do theirs if they want too
I'll also add it to this OP as well, and probably use them somehow in next season's OP too.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
May 07 2013 08:50 GMT
#7669
On May 07 2013 10:03 Ferrose wrote:

Stoke are definitely staying up I guess. Sigh...


But Wigan still with a chance! A slim one, but still a chance.
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-07 10:21:27
May 07 2013 10:17 GMT
#7670
A small video for the tactics fans, from a conference Guardiola gave in Argentina (so it's in Spanish). It's about how he changed Messi's position from winger to 9.5

Not 'genius', but it's always interesting to see that every small detail is analyzed by these managers
kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
May 07 2013 10:24 GMT
#7671
On May 07 2013 07:35 sc4k wrote:
The thing you guys are missing is that Luiz didn't actually dive. Busquets is a diving cock. Luiz doesn't dive. He just went down to Raphael's CLEAR angry kick. Nothing wrong with tweaking the moment to get Raph the red card if it was Raph's attack which was in the wrong. Busquets gets people carded for doing nothing wrong. Raph deserved a red, for kicking in anger.

Of course there is. The ref issues cards, not David Luiz.
"NO" -Has
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
May 07 2013 12:52 GMT
#7672
Rafa just can't help himself can he...

Speaking in his pre match press conference ahead of the vital game against Tottenham he has said;

The next year there will be another manager. I think everybody knows who will be here.


xD
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-07 13:32:47
May 07 2013 13:08 GMT
#7673
Now I'm really curious to see who Madrid is gonna pick to be their next manager... Everybody is saying Ancelotti is a sure thing in Spain, but in France we know that he announced his players he was going to stay, 2 days ago.
Who will be available for them? Benitez? I doubt it... But Klopp/Heynckes (as mentionned before) don't seem possible... Klopp doesn't want to leave and Heynckes, if he doesn't retire, would probably not accept a 3 years contract, which is what they need if they want to start a new cycle...

And I'm not sure that Madrid has the same aura they had several years ago, when being on their list to be the manager was like 'a dream come true' (a bit exagerated but you get the idea :p)... With all the circus that Mou created I'm not sure it helped in that sense either... So, attracting coaches that aren't 'free' will be very difficult: Conte, Ancelotti, Klopp, Wenger, etc...
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-07 14:27:13
May 07 2013 14:26 GMT
#7674


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sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-07 15:18:31
May 07 2013 15:18 GMT
#7675
On May 07 2013 14:24 Rebs wrote:
The micro scope just gets larger when people insist on hating on a series of misdemeanors, I guess Drogba dives are short for the memory.. my word the double standards..


I don't forget that Drogba dived a shit load. He was crazy theatrical but it was almost to the point of farce with him, and he so rarely got people penalised after his reputation started to work against him. He was just funny but there's no doubt that if someone wants to call him a cock for diving I won't argue. But I will say, 9 goals in 9 finals, there isn't really a more majestic stat in single player football.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
May 07 2013 16:45 GMT
#7676
FINALLY new Swiss Ramble post:

http://swissramble.blogspot.ch/2013/05/uefa-prize-money-rhapsody-in-blue.html
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
malcram
Profile Joined November 2010
2752 Posts
May 07 2013 17:01 GMT
#7677
anyone feeling stoked for the wigan game? i'm hoping wigan can pull a houdini again.
that said, i don't understand why they always leave it to the last moment to pull out results, maybe they don't deserve to be in the top flight after all. >.>

can't wait for chelsea vs spurs. KTBFFH!
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
May 07 2013 18:22 GMT
#7678
On May 08 2013 02:01 malcram wrote:
anyone feeling stoked for the wigan game? i'm hoping wigan can pull a houdini again.
that said, i don't understand why they always leave it to the last moment to pull out results, maybe they don't deserve to be in the top flight after all. >.>

can't wait for chelsea vs spurs. KTBFFH!


Same here, I really hope Wigan can stay up again. Their run last year and the football they play has given me a soft spot for them.
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
May 07 2013 18:41 GMT
#7679
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haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2714 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-07 19:01:58
May 07 2013 18:59 GMT
#7680
I prefer Busquets "dives" to Xabi Alonso 90 minutes giving kicks to everyone without receiving a yellow card. Maybe I'm crazy.

People usually hates Barcelona too much for the dives, but Barcelona is one of the cleanest teams in the world. They make normally few faults. But nobody merit them that, because Busquets or Dani Alves "dive" too much.

And Messi never dives
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