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AndyJay
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 04:46:47
February 27 2012 04:46 GMT
#1801
Yeah don't worry my bench randomly fails on days it doesn't like too funkie. If it makes you feel any better I've been failing my 80x5x3 bench but I can deadlift 175x5. I'd trade you any day my DL for your squat though, my hips/knees/ankles are so fail I can't get below parallel without serious pain.
emjaytron
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia544 Posts
February 27 2012 08:49 GMT
#1802
On February 27 2012 09:02 AoN.DimSum wrote:
you know looks have nothing to do with how strong you are...


Unfortunately they do to an extent. Force generation is pretty much dependent on muscle physiological cross sectional area and nervous system recruitment. So you can only get so far without size.
Grubby - SaSe - Oz - Hero
billy5000
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States865 Posts
February 27 2012 09:45 GMT
#1803
speaking of anna, does anybody feel motivated to workout when you see a 5'2" hottie


doing

Squat:240 lbs

Clean:180 lbs

Snatch:150 lbs

Deadlift:330 lbs


?

Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand. Vonnegut
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4728 Posts
February 27 2012 10:02 GMT
#1804
All right, I started this journey on 26.02.2011, so now the first year of my two-year plan to get below 100kg is over. Down from 170kg to 122kg, so approximatly two-thirds of my weight-loss goal is already accomplished. What is very positive is that my daily caloric needs have hardly decreased during the last half year (so since I keep track), it still hovers around 4200-4300kcal a day. So my muscular bodyweight seems to stay at least somewhat constant (although my squat numbers are pathetic now. But upper body strength stays at least the same). I totally expect it to get harder down the road, but 22kg in one year should be doable. Just fingers crossed that I won't injure myself.

@Phyre112: EAT YOU SKINNY BASTARD!!!
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Rixxe
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom136 Posts
February 27 2012 11:13 GMT
#1805
Shit be getting real.

Usual 3 times Gym sessions, 2 nights of football, then to top it all off i swam 1 mile in like 40 minutes... first time i've been swimming in like over a year!
But seriously, i'm eating like a horse to the point where i feel ill, yet cannot put weight on. Only so much milk and food you can eat.. ideas? (Cutting ALL cardio seems like a sin)

Oh.... screw benches with my broken shoulder....
*bleep* you up in a gangsta style!
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 12:05:44
February 27 2012 12:00 GMT
#1806
On February 27 2012 20:13 Rixxe wrote:
Shit be getting real.

Usual 3 times Gym sessions, 2 nights of football, then to top it all off i swam 1 mile in like 40 minutes... first time i've been swimming in like over a year!
But seriously, i'm eating like a horse to the point where i feel ill, yet cannot put weight on. Only so much milk and food you can eat.. ideas? (Cutting ALL cardio seems like a sin)

Oh.... screw benches with my broken shoulder....


either cut cardio or eat more. simple as that.


so, today I was supposed to deadlift 190kgx2 (coan/phillipi week 8). first rep went pretty smooth, but my legs failed me on the second rep took a 5 minute break and went for it again, this time with a belt. again, first rep was ok, but on the second rep the bar wouldnt even move.. so, now I have done a total of 2 reps with 190kg but not in one set.. should I continue with 195kgx1 next week or re-do week 8?
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
February 27 2012 12:21 GMT
#1807
Haven't lifted in a week... I get to do that today. Haven't squatted in two, I get to destroy that today. Haven't played rugby in a week and a half, and I get to do that today!

It's a good day.
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
February 27 2012 12:35 GMT
#1808
On February 27 2012 21:21 phyre112 wrote:
Haven't lifted in a week... I get to do that today. Haven't squatted in two, I get to destroy that today. Haven't played rugby in a week and a half, and I get to do that today!

It's a good day.


go own them!
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 13:46:34
February 27 2012 12:37 GMT
#1809
On February 27 2012 13:46 AndyJay wrote:
Yeah don't worry my bench randomly fails on days it doesn't like too funkie. If it makes you feel any better I've been failing my 80x5x3 bench but I can deadlift 175x5. I'd trade you any day my DL for your squat though, my hips/knees/ankles are so fail I can't get below parallel without serious pain.



Hahah thanks man!.

Squat and Deadlifting are such powerful exercises.

btw, my jeans and shirt won't even fit today wtf is going on.

On February 27 2012 18:45 billy5000 wrote:
speaking of anna, does anybody feel motivated to workout when you see a 5'2" hottie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HH9aIHMfpw

doing

Show nested quote +
Squat:240 lbs

Clean:180 lbs

Snatch:150 lbs

Deadlift:330 lbs


?



Oh man, her abs and her legs..omfg.

Is it weird that her voice or her accent annoys me after hearing it for a 10minute while? ?
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
February 27 2012 12:51 GMT
#1810
On February 27 2012 21:00 Zafrumi wrote:
so, today I was supposed to deadlift 190kgx2 (coan/phillipi week 8). first rep went pretty smooth, but my legs failed me on the second rep took a 5 minute break and went for it again, this time with a belt. again, first rep was ok, but on the second rep the bar wouldnt even move.. so, now I have done a total of 2 reps with 190kg but not in one set.. should I continue with 195kgx1 next week or re-do week 8?

I'd keep going but you should obviously take this with a grain of salt since I just finished week 5. Might've just had a bad day and doing another heavy week with all the accessory work could possibly mess things up more than help you imo. I drank tons of water, slept for 10 hours and ate a lot on my 4th week, 180kgx2 felt way easier than the 160kgx2 i pulled yesterday because I was like "deload week, whatever".
I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 13:01:46
February 27 2012 13:01 GMT
#1811
On February 27 2012 17:49 emjaytron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 09:02 AoN.DimSum wrote:
you know looks have nothing to do with how strong you are...


Unfortunately they do to an extent. Force generation is pretty much dependent on muscle physiological cross sectional area and nervous system recruitment. So you can only get so far without size.


You can get pretty far without size

People int he 60kg weight class for Olympic weightlifting put up nearly 3x their bodyweight clean and jerks. That 180kg for clean and jerk. Likewise, with snatch it's over 2.25x their bodyweight.

But yes, generally you want both
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
February 27 2012 13:10 GMT
#1812
On February 27 2012 22:01 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 17:49 emjaytron wrote:
On February 27 2012 09:02 AoN.DimSum wrote:
you know looks have nothing to do with how strong you are...


Unfortunately they do to an extent. Force generation is pretty much dependent on muscle physiological cross sectional area and nervous system recruitment. So you can only get so far without size.


You can get pretty far without size

People int he 60kg weight class for Olympic weightlifting put up nearly 3x their bodyweight clean and jerks. That 180kg for clean and jerk. Likewise, with snatch it's over 2.25x their bodyweight.

But yes, generally you want both


Force and looks?

I just want to lift big shit, what does that make me? .
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
February 27 2012 13:18 GMT
#1813
Strong
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
February 27 2012 13:24 GMT
#1814
On February 27 2012 22:10 funkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 22:01 eshlow wrote:
On February 27 2012 17:49 emjaytron wrote:
On February 27 2012 09:02 AoN.DimSum wrote:
you know looks have nothing to do with how strong you are...


Unfortunately they do to an extent. Force generation is pretty much dependent on muscle physiological cross sectional area and nervous system recruitment. So you can only get so far without size.


You can get pretty far without size

People int he 60kg weight class for Olympic weightlifting put up nearly 3x their bodyweight clean and jerks. That 180kg for clean and jerk. Likewise, with snatch it's over 2.25x their bodyweight.

But yes, generally you want both


Force and looks?

I just want to lift big shit, what does that make me? .


Fat :p

JK super strong !
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
February 27 2012 14:41 GMT
#1815
On February 27 2012 21:00 Zafrumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 20:13 Rixxe wrote:
Shit be getting real.

Usual 3 times Gym sessions, 2 nights of football, then to top it all off i swam 1 mile in like 40 minutes... first time i've been swimming in like over a year!
But seriously, i'm eating like a horse to the point where i feel ill, yet cannot put weight on. Only so much milk and food you can eat.. ideas? (Cutting ALL cardio seems like a sin)

Oh.... screw benches with my broken shoulder....


either cut cardio or eat more. simple as that.


so, today I was supposed to deadlift 190kgx2 (coan/phillipi week 8). first rep went pretty smooth, but my legs failed me on the second rep took a 5 minute break and went for it again, this time with a belt. again, first rep was ok, but on the second rep the bar wouldnt even move.. so, now I have done a total of 2 reps with 190kg but not in one set.. should I continue with 195kgx1 next week or re-do week 8?


go for 195kg x 1 next week.

That you managed to do 1.5 reps two times in a session makes it clear that you are ready for some more action. week 8 is the brutal motherfucker that makes your gains.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
February 27 2012 14:53 GMT
#1816
thanks sjarl and sneakyz
I will go for 195 next monday and take it very very easy for the rest of the week. might even skip friday's workout entirely to make sure I get enough rest over the weekend
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
February 27 2012 15:27 GMT
#1817
On February 18 2012 00:46 Luxae wrote:
Look into liquid chalk, Deadeight. I haven't had any experience with it myself, but I've heard it's as useful as actual chalk and obviously not as messy.



I'd like to thank you again for this post.

Using it today on deadlift was amazing, couldn't believe my grip. Grip strength as it turns out really isn't an issue for me as long as I'm using it, was limited only in all the places I should be. I used to use a powerball a lot so I guess that helped.

If anyone else isn't allowed to use chalk at their gym I recommend liquid chalk. Just use lots of water to get it off, it's quite easy to dissolve it all in water then as your hands dry the chalk comes out again.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
February 27 2012 15:40 GMT
#1818
On my way to 225lb (102kg) bench press, my current goal, but I failed at 215 (97.5kg). I'm kinda new to this, I was thinking of stepping down for a few weeks and working back up with dumbbell bench. I've been increasing my bench steadily for two months now if that helps. Almost there!
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
February 27 2012 16:26 GMT
#1819
Yeah, what's everyone's opinion on benching with dumbbells vs a barbell? Purely for rugby performance really. I've always done it with dumbbells as I was once told it works more of the small muscles, and I just found it more comfortable. I'm on 37.5kg for 5x5, sometimes doing a set with the 40kg dumbbells. Sometimes do incline and decline when my friends do it.
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
February 27 2012 16:55 GMT
#1820
Whatever you feel like really.

Both have a good carry-over, most often you want to focus on and feels better / more natural.

Rotating them can be beneficial, as is deloading the weight before ramping it up again.

@Zafrumi: Just do some active recovery stuff, light walks, hot baths, massage, foam rolling, etc.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
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