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On March 15 2013 13:35 AirbladeOrange wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2013 00:05 mordek wrote:Sorry to drop in with the typical noob post but hopefully you guys don't mind  I may try to do a half marathon beginning of May. I have probably 6 cumulative miles since the beginning of winter. I'm in decent shape from lifting and I used to be a decent runner (54s 400, 2min 800, 30min 8k) What's a reasonable time to shoot for if I trained optimally starting today and racing May 11? I know I'll have unfair expectations for myself so just curious I don't think that it's reasonable for someone else here to pretend to know what you're capable of in this situation. You'd know better than anyone else seeing that you do have prior running experience. It might not even be important to have a goal time in mind. For now just start training and you will have a better idea of what you can possibly do once things get rolling.
That's fair. I was more wondering how much you can expect in 8 weeks. I found a program that length that I'll try to stick to and report back. I have a feeling I'm stretching to thin on fitness goals but I'm going to give it a shot regardless.
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If you don't do too much too fast, I think a finish somewhere south of 2 hours is totally possible. Is there any chance you'll look a little further down the road for a goal race later in the summer?
Slogged through the snow for 17km this morning. Last run before Sunday's race, and a depressingly slow one – took me about an hour and forty minutes. And there's supposed to be more snow on race day, which should do wonders for my time. Fucking winter.
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I don't really want to pay an exorbitant amount or travel too far and the next one nearby is late September which wouldn't work because it's like 3 days from my wife's due date I appreciate the guesstimate. I'll be sure to keep you guys updated
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Came home in the quite disgusting time of 39:55. My only consolation is that the ice and snow resulted in such bad footing that that time wound up placing me third in the field and second in my age group. Though objectively I know this race doesn't really mean anything -- bad footing, no serious training behind it, -25 with wind chill, etc. -- my subconscious is making me feel shitty about it. The last 10km race I ran was two years ago, before I started marathon training, and I ran in 37:38 off of about 2/3 of the mileage I clock right now.
So I suppose this provides psychological fuel for training, which can start in earnest as soon as this damn snow gets off the trails. I recall very distinctly the moment, with about one k to go, when the frontrunner looked back, and I knew he was stronger than me. The urge to avoide that feeling will get me out of bed to start two-a-days soon, I think.
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I like the attitude. Had a 3 mile run yesterday and felt pretty good barring the frigid wind. Spring can't come soon enough.
How reliable do you guys find gmap for measuring courses... it seems like every site uses it. I wouldn't question it but I ran a 24min 3mi and I'm either missing something or pleasantly surprised. Regardless, it was a good start, didn't feel too bad once my hands unthawed lol.
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On March 18 2013 21:54 mordek wrote:
I like the attitude. Had a 3 mile run yesterday and felt pretty good barring the frigid wind. Spring can't come soon enough.
How reliable do you guys find gmap for measuring courses... it seems like every site uses it. I wouldn't question it but I ran a 24min 3mi and I'm either missing something or pleasantly surprised. Regardless, it was a good start, didn't feel too bad once my hands unthawed lol.
I used to use mapmyrun, which I believe uses gmap underneath, and I find it to be pretty accurate comparatively to the garmin gps watch I recently bought. I would say that they are within ~ 0.1 mile of each other for everything that I've mapped.
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Today was a fast 5k for training. Ran it in 22:13! Pace was 7:03 1st mile 7:18 2nd mile and finished at 22:13. Really pleased with the start to my training, just so long as I stay injury free
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On March 24 2013 01:09 mordek wrote:Today was a fast 5k for training. Ran it in 22:13! Pace was 7:03 1st mile 7:18 2nd mile and finished at 22:13. Really pleased with the start to my training, just so long as I stay injury free
Nice work! That's zoomin, keep it up and good luck staying injury free.
I just finished up my first 40mi week off 6 days on Friday. I feel a little beat up but it feels so good to be back training again.
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This week's training:
Sun 3mi
Mon rest
Tues 3mi
Wed Speedwork/ultimate
Thursday 3mi
Friday rest
Saturday 5k fast
Sun 3mi
So far feeling good, calves are catching up (fore/midfoot striking). Old hip injury is nagging though :\
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Registered for my next race – another 10k. It's on April 28th, so hopefully there won't be any snow. (I say "hopefully" because it's Edmonton, after all.) Hoping for something that starts with a 37 for my time.
As far as training, I'm spending the next two weeks bumping up mileage: 85km this week and ~100 next week, then I'll begin mixing in some speed work. Also booked some time off in late summer to really run my guts out (I'd like to shoot for a 120 mile week, if I can build up to it at a pace that makes sense) and get ready for a series of trail races that take place here every fall. I hope to set some PRs at them this year.
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Hi, this is my first post in this thread. I hope it won't be the last one.
This May, I've decided to participate in a half-marathon, which will take place in my hometown. Unfortunately I'm not a runner type. I'm more of a gym rat type. I'm 6'1 and at the beginning of the year I've weighted 210lbs ( I was bulking hard), at this moment I'm 180lbs since I'm on a strict diet. By the time of the run I'm planning to drop down to 175ish. So I'm on track when it comes to dieting.
My problem, however, lies in strength and endurance. I started running 7-8km daily in the gym. I'm planning to increase this next week, and keep doing so until I hit the magic number of 21km. In theory it sounds great, but in reality I'm getting really bored, discouraged and I don't know if I will ever reach 21km distance. I'm writing this post, because I would like to get some ideas, plans and your thoughts on how to achieve my goal without getting discouraged. Failure in not an option for me.Maybe are some some marathon, semi-marathon runners here who could say a word or two as well. Thanks for all responses in advance.
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I wanted to participate in a half marathon in Brussels, but srsly, 20€ admission fee, while I'm extremely limited on funds is a big no-no.
Went running at 6am, I ran for 70minutes, 15km. All kinds of terrain, slopes, etc. In my small city, with a little bit of freerunning involved (jumping over obstacles, ...)
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@SixSongs are you running on a treadmill or track in the gym? I find it much less boring to run outside and it's much more helpful for training since I assume your race will be held outside as well. In terms of training programs you can look up some online and see if one piques your interest. Many will include shorter runs on some days (5-8k), maybe a faster tempo run on another, and a long run day where you try to do 10-15k. Maybe the variety will help too
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@SixSongs Another vote for running outside. If I could only run on a treadmill, I would probably find another hobby. Running outdoors is more stimulating and far, far better training, since you have to deal with both hills and wind-resistence. Give it a try!
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first run of the year, 7km in about 40mins
im dead... soooo tired
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Last week's training was not the greatest:
Mon - rest
Tues - rest: not sure if going to keep going as SI joint acting up
Wed - Speedwork/Ultimate: talk to doctor at frisbee, says running should be fine, seeing PT friday of next week.
Thursday - 3mi
Friday - rest
Saturday- 6mi 47min pretty happy with this time but need to increase my weekly mileage if i'm going to run a half
Sun - travelling for Easter, rested
Going to run as planned this week and hopefully PT has some insights.
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Mine was:
Monday: 4 miles
Tuesday: 3 miles
Wednesday: Rest
Thursday: 3 miles
Friday: Rest
Saturday: 3 miles.
Combining things with low resistance, high repetition weight training in an effort to lean out a bit.
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Wrapped up around 85km of mileage last week, the season's first increase from my winter running schedule. The highlight was some mile repeats on Friday. I wasn't planning on adding intervals for another week or so, but my training partner suggested it and I'm easily persuaded. I had no idea what to expect of myself, and I was pleasantly surprised: with ~800m recovery jog between each mile, I went 5:20, 5:15, and 5:22. I felt good enough to attempt a sub-5 on my last one, and came in at 5:03.
Felt like hell during my 17k run on Saturday, but a day of rest has done wonders for my legs and now I'm ready for ~95k this week. Onward!
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On March 29 2013 18:30 SixSongs wrote:
Hi, this is my first post in this thread. I hope it won't be the last one.
This May, I've decided to participate in a half-marathon, which will take place in my hometown. Unfortunately I'm not a runner type. I'm more of a gym rat type. I'm 6'1 and at the beginning of the year I've weighted 210lbs ( I was bulking hard), at this moment I'm 180lbs since I'm on a strict diet. By the time of the run I'm planning to drop down to 175ish. So I'm on track when it comes to dieting.
My problem, however, lies in strength and endurance. I started running 7-8km daily in the gym. I'm planning to increase this next week, and keep doing so until I hit the magic number of 21km. In theory it sounds great, but in reality I'm getting really bored, discouraged and I don't know if I will ever reach 21km distance. I'm writing this post, because I would like to get some ideas, plans and your thoughts on how to achieve my goal without getting discouraged. Failure in not an option for me.Maybe are some some marathon, semi-marathon runners here who could say a word or two as well. Thanks for all responses in advance.
Yea. I'll reiterate what others are saying...if you are running on a treadmill. Don't. It's just not going to be as interesting.
Get outside, then find some music you like or an interesting podcast or whatnot and you should be good to go. Some people do seem to get bored with running, but I don't quite understand it. There are too many things I'm thinking about; form, effort, rhythm etc. to ever end up being bored. When your constantly monitoring your effort and focusing on how you run there really isn't really much room left over for much else.
Sometimes on really easy runs I do zone out a bit especially if I am feeling lazy and just let my mind wander or listen to music.
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On April 02 2013 06:26 Bonham wrote:
Wrapped up around 85km of mileage last week, the season's first increase from my winter running schedule. The highlight was some mile repeats on Friday. I wasn't planning on adding intervals for another week or so, but my training partner suggested it and I'm easily persuaded. I had no idea what to expect of myself, and I was pleasantly surprised: with ~800m recovery jog between each mile, I went 5:20, 5:15, and 5:22. I felt good enough to attempt a sub-5 on my last one, and came in at 5:03.
Felt like hell during my 17k run on Saturday, but a day of rest has done wonders for my legs and now I'm ready for ~95k this week. Onward!
While 800 is a little crazy on the rest, can't believe you were worried about breaking 40 when you are running 4xmile repeats averaging low 5:10's. You should really be thinking more along the lines of 16.xx/34.xx.
I'd be pretty curious to see what you would run a session of 5-6xmile in taking 2-3 min active recovery.
I'm spending the next two weeks bumping up mileage: 85km this week and ~100 next week, then I'll begin mixing in some speed work. Also booked some time off in late summer to really run my guts out (I'd like to shoot for a 120 mile week, if I can build up to it at a pace that makes sense)
I'm not sure the reasoning here. Building up mileage some in the summer is smart and great. Logical progression is always something you should be aiming for. What I don't understand is the "120 mile week", which as I read it here comes across as a stunt. If you are just doing it too see what it's like...then yea there really isn't anything wrong with that as long as you don't totally ignore your body if it's really not agreeing with it.
If you are talking building to that mileage I'm not sure it's worth it. My sense, as we are starting to see with runners like Rupp, is that gradual progression is the strongest. Making huge mileage jumps probably results in good fitness gains, but doesn't necessarily allow you to absorb the training load and keep the same intensity AND recovery ability that you'd have with a more modest increase, and going from 100km to 120 MILES is indeed a VERY big jump.
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