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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-03 10:05:31
March 03 2013 10:04 GMT
#1501
I use run keeper which does a good job at keep trace of pace and route, which is all I care about, so I am happy with it.

It doesn't matter which app u use as long as it works?

They all come with random features like social networking, and I think that's where they differentiate themselves from others?
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
March 03 2013 15:05 GMT
#1502
On March 03 2013 15:52 AirbladeOrange wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 13:27 LuckyFool wrote:
On March 01 2013 12:30 L_Master wrote:
On March 01 2013 10:08 LuckyFool wrote:
The only time I had shin splint issues was after a long period of inactivity and trying to do way too much way too soon.

After I recovered for a week or two and started regularly going at it, at a slower pace and less mileage per week I had almost no shin issues and now I can go way more than originally without any issues.

right now I just have to worry about some random ankle tendonitis or something of the sort, which also seems to have been brought on by trying to take too far a jump in too short a period of time.


Where do you feel it? In the back of the ankle, maybe even running a little up toward the calf? Or somewhere else?


I feel it more near the side of the ankle running up toward calf (like right above the inner ankle bone) so I know it's not an achilles issue. (unless achilles goes along the side somehow as well?) I only really feel some pain if I put pressure or press on it. Walking feels fine and I have full motion in ankle- I can flex and bend foot normally without any pain. It's just some dull pain for a couple hours sometimes after longer runs. Also this has just been the left ankle, right hasn't had any symptoms like this at all.


Sounds like what I've been dealing with for years. Mine always turned out to be stress fractures. Is it actually on the ankle or would you consider it on the shin? Like where is it relative to the ball thing that protrudes on the ankle?

Have you ever been diagnosed with a stress fracture or bone injury in the shin?
Have you ever limped during a run or in the morning when you first get out of bed from it?


Never had to limp during a run, but I would feel uncomfortable sometimes in that area. Sometimes in the morning it hurts more getting out of bed. It's literally an inch above the ball thing so hardly high enough to really be in the shin. I've never really had a stress fracture before but I've also never been running as much as I have in the past 3 months before.

Never was diagnosed, I don't regularly see a doctor, probably haven't been in a year.

Now that I'm reading about it it might be at least early onsets of a stress fracture, my symptoms are mild but I've never had any swelling or pain while resting.
TheMooseHeed
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom535 Posts
March 03 2013 16:35 GMT
#1503
On March 03 2013 19:04 Cambium wrote:
I use run keeper which does a good job at keep trace of pace and route, which is all I care about, so I am happy with it.

It doesn't matter which app u use as long as it works?

They all come with random features like social networking, and I think that's where they differentiate themselves from others?

Yeah I guess your right. I was just worried that it might not be accurate at measuring distance or something which would suck but after a run today it seems to work well. Lol you can even record what trainers you were using and post it on facebook... why you would ever do that is beyound me haha

Shaved about 25 seconds of my 5k time and 5 seconds off my mile which I am extremely happy with considering I was out injured for a week or so beforehand. It makes me feel bad for you guys with long term injuries, I felt like I was losing everything after a week never mind a longer period of time. Must be horrible
''Swarm hosts are the worst thing in the world, I mean terrorism is pretty bad but swarmhosts are worse'' IdrA on ZvZ
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
March 03 2013 19:00 GMT
#1504
Lol, this thread is turning into running injury central.

Ran into Shalane and Kara again...if this happens one or two more times were practically gonna be on a first name basis lol.

@Mooseheed, can't say I have. Didn't get a smartphone until right after I got injured so haven't had a chance to play with any of those running apps yet.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
March 11 2013 05:08 GMT
#1505
Pain has really subsided a ton in the last 3-4 days. There are only tiny vestiges of discomfort now with the most aggressive of day to day movements.

Hope it actually goes away this time completely. Gonna be very careful to stay off of it over the next week or two.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
AirbladeOrange
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2573 Posts
March 11 2013 05:47 GMT
#1506
On March 04 2013 00:05 LuckyFool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2013 15:52 AirbladeOrange wrote:
On March 02 2013 13:27 LuckyFool wrote:
On March 01 2013 12:30 L_Master wrote:
On March 01 2013 10:08 LuckyFool wrote:
The only time I had shin splint issues was after a long period of inactivity and trying to do way too much way too soon.

After I recovered for a week or two and started regularly going at it, at a slower pace and less mileage per week I had almost no shin issues and now I can go way more than originally without any issues.

right now I just have to worry about some random ankle tendonitis or something of the sort, which also seems to have been brought on by trying to take too far a jump in too short a period of time.


Where do you feel it? In the back of the ankle, maybe even running a little up toward the calf? Or somewhere else?


I feel it more near the side of the ankle running up toward calf (like right above the inner ankle bone) so I know it's not an achilles issue. (unless achilles goes along the side somehow as well?) I only really feel some pain if I put pressure or press on it. Walking feels fine and I have full motion in ankle- I can flex and bend foot normally without any pain. It's just some dull pain for a couple hours sometimes after longer runs. Also this has just been the left ankle, right hasn't had any symptoms like this at all.


Sounds like what I've been dealing with for years. Mine always turned out to be stress fractures. Is it actually on the ankle or would you consider it on the shin? Like where is it relative to the ball thing that protrudes on the ankle?

Have you ever been diagnosed with a stress fracture or bone injury in the shin?
Have you ever limped during a run or in the morning when you first get out of bed from it?


Never had to limp during a run, but I would feel uncomfortable sometimes in that area. Sometimes in the morning it hurts more getting out of bed. It's literally an inch above the ball thing so hardly high enough to really be in the shin. I've never really had a stress fracture before but I've also never been running as much as I have in the past 3 months before.

Never was diagnosed, I don't regularly see a doctor, probably haven't been in a year.

Now that I'm reading about it it might be at least early onsets of a stress fracture, my symptoms are mild but I've never had any swelling or pain while resting.


Yeah, it's probably an early stress fracture in your tibia. I'd take some time off running and do cross training while trying to figure out why you got hurt. Sounds like there is a good chance you built up your mileage too fast and maybe have some mechanics/balance/strengthening to work on.

Let me know what you think and what's going on with you.
Bonham
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada655 Posts
March 11 2013 18:45 GMT
#1507
First race of the season on Sunday! It is a 10km route through the river valley, and I am quite pumped.

The footing around Edmonton has been really bad lately, so I haven't done much of any speed work and will be running off of my usual ~45mpw winter running schedule. Since this is a kick-off to race training season, I'm also not going to taper or alter my regular training at all beyond shuffling my usual schedule to give me a rest day on Saturday. The upshot is that I'll be happy with anything below 40 minutes.

But still: racing! I can't wait to start adding mileage and intervals and getting a bit of speed back. In September/October, I'm aiming for a sub-35 10km and a sub-17 5km. No marathons this summer!
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
March 11 2013 23:01 GMT
#1508
On March 12 2013 03:45 Bonham wrote:
First race of the season on Sunday! It is a 10km route through the river valley, and I am quite pumped.

The footing around Edmonton has been really bad lately, so I haven't done much of any speed work and will be running off of my usual ~45mpw winter running schedule. Since this is a kick-off to race training season, I'm also not going to taper or alter my regular training at all beyond shuffling my usual schedule to give me a rest day on Saturday. The upshot is that I'll be happy with anything below 40 minutes.

But still: racing! I can't wait to start adding mileage and intervals and getting a bit of speed back. In September/October, I'm aiming for a sub-35 10km and a sub-17 5km. No marathons this summer!


Good luck!

Haven't had many people racing lately...I need more of you to live vicariously through in the meantime :p
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Bonham
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada655 Posts
March 12 2013 00:17 GMT
#1509
Thanks! I'll post my results up here, even if I break both my legs and it takes me three hours to finish.
LagLovah
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada552 Posts
March 12 2013 09:39 GMT
#1510
Look on the positive side, the weather in Edmonton in crazy good now. I plan to switch back to full outdoor running again. Sub 20 5k seems so unreal to me after 8 months training haha. I tried out some intervals at 4min/km from my usual 5. Felt like i was gonna die.... First race im planning on is the 10mile St Albert on april 14th.
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berated-
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1134 Posts
March 12 2013 10:56 GMT
#1511
I probably won't be racing until at least October, but I'm thinking about doing a marathon next February while I'm used to doing longer, slower miles before I get back to trying to do speed work.

I ended up breaking the 200lb barrier -- so I've lost 40 lbs so far in my journey back to running. The progress is coming along nicely. I did 30mi+ each of the last two weeks, including 14 mi on Saturday and then 6.25 more on Sunday ending the last 3mi @ 7:30, 7:30, 7:10. That's a bit different from barely being able to finish 2 miles, which is where I was 5 months ago.

Still feel a long way away from breaking 20 in the 5k again, but at least I feel its possible now where I wasn't so sure over the past couple years.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
March 13 2013 18:24 GMT
#1512
Starting up today, it has been far too long and I've put back on far too much weight. Time to get back into fighting shape. At present stated goal getting to the gym at least 3 times a week, more is preferable. Start short term.
Bonham
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada655 Posts
March 13 2013 21:17 GMT
#1513
Blah, we could get up to 27cm of snow in Edmonton by Sunday. This might call for modifying my goal time a bit, which is a bit of a pissoff. I was feeling so pepped up for the race – I got out for a really nice 17km tempo run with a friend yesterday, and felt far more comfortable at ~3:55/km than I thought I ought to. Having to plod through all that muck will crush my spirit a good deal.
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
March 13 2013 23:25 GMT
#1514
On March 14 2013 06:17 Bonham wrote:
Blah, we could get up to 27cm of snow in Edmonton by Sunday. This might call for modifying my goal time a bit, which is a bit of a pissoff. I was feeling so pepped up for the race – I got out for a really nice 17km tempo run with a friend yesterday, and felt far more comfortable at ~3:55/km than I thought I ought to. Having to plod through all that muck will crush my spirit a good deal.


You ran 17km at 3:55 pace? o.O

If that's correct then something gives me the feeling that 40 min isn't going to be much of a problem over 10k. 35-36 min would be realistic off of that.

EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Bonham
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada655 Posts
March 14 2013 00:38 GMT
#1515
On March 14 2013 08:25 L_Master wrote:
You ran 17km at 3:55 pace? o.O

If that's correct then something gives me the feeling that 40 min isn't going to be much of a problem over 10k. 35-36 min would be realistic off of that.



Not the whole thing; just a little 4km stretch at the end. We were around 4:15/km for the entire thing, but the final leg had a good patch of flat, dry ground, and I wanted to let the led out a bit and see how it felt. I don't think I could keep that up much beyond 5k right now, but that's what training is for!
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
March 14 2013 01:35 GMT
#1516
On March 14 2013 09:38 Bonham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 08:25 L_Master wrote:
You ran 17km at 3:55 pace? o.O

If that's correct then something gives me the feeling that 40 min isn't going to be much of a problem over 10k. 35-36 min would be realistic off of that.



Not the whole thing; just a little 4km stretch at the end. We were around 4:15/km for the entire thing, but the final leg had a good patch of flat, dry ground, and I wanted to let the led out a bit and see how it felt. I don't think I could keep that up much beyond 5k right now, but that's what training is for!


If your running 4:15 km pace for a run of 11 miles, and picking it up to cruise with 3:55 at the end, your easily in sub 40 shape. That would have been a solid effort for me before the injury a few months ago and I was in 17 high/37 low shape.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
March 14 2013 15:05 GMT
#1517
Sorry to drop in with the typical noob post but hopefully you guys don't mind
I may try to do a half marathon beginning of May. I have probably 6 cumulative miles since the beginning of winter. I'm in decent shape from lifting and I used to be a decent runner (54s 400, 2min 800, 30min 8k)
What's a reasonable time to shoot for if I trained optimally starting today and racing May 11? I know I'll have unfair expectations for myself so just curious
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
AirbladeOrange
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2573 Posts
March 15 2013 04:35 GMT
#1518
On March 15 2013 00:05 mordek wrote:
Sorry to drop in with the typical noob post but hopefully you guys don't mind
I may try to do a half marathon beginning of May. I have probably 6 cumulative miles since the beginning of winter. I'm in decent shape from lifting and I used to be a decent runner (54s 400, 2min 800, 30min 8k)
What's a reasonable time to shoot for if I trained optimally starting today and racing May 11? I know I'll have unfair expectations for myself so just curious


I don't think that it's reasonable for someone else here to pretend to know what you're capable of in this situation. You'd know better than anyone else seeing that you do have prior running experience.

It might not even be important to have a goal time in mind. For now just start training and you will have a better idea of what you can possibly do once things get rolling.
fatfail
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States386 Posts
March 15 2013 05:24 GMT
#1519
For 1500m/1600m training, do you guys focus more on shorter or longer distance workouts? I know that 100m runners do a lot of 50m/60m exercises. My track and field coach makes me do long runs of five or six miles, but should I be doing more interval training? My 1600m time is about 5:50.
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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
March 15 2013 06:34 GMT
#1520
On March 15 2013 14:24 fatfail wrote:
For 1500m/1600m training, do you guys focus more on shorter or longer distance workouts? I know that 100m runners do a lot of 50m/60m exercises. My track and field coach makes me do long runs of five or six miles, but should I be doing more interval training? My 1600m time is about 5:50.


A mix of both is essentially appropriate.

You definitely need some race pace work. Think 300s/400s/600s/occassional 800s. Classic workouts would be things like 8-10x400m @ mile pace w/60s jog recovery.

Then you have "VO2 max" type intervals, like 5-6x1k @ 3k-5k pace or 6-8x800 with roughly 1:1 recovery.

Then you have some longer efforts: namely tempo runs of 3-4 miles, and perhaps a 60-90 minute run depending on your mileage/experience, picking it up at the end.
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