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las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-20 19:13:51
May 20 2015 19:13 GMT
#100961
On May 21 2015 04:11 Ketara wrote:
What does STEM stand for?

Science IT Engineering Medical?


science technology engineering medical i believe

nvm math w/e
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
May 20 2015 19:18 GMT
#100962
With the frequency that large volumes of money moves around in the farm credit industry, it is astounding that any fraud ever gets caught.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
May 20 2015 19:19 GMT
#100963
Slayer91 typically eats marbles.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 20 2015 19:22 GMT
#100964
On May 21 2015 04:18 jcarlsoniv wrote:
With the frequency that large volumes of money moves around in the farm credit industry, it is astounding that any fraud ever gets caught.


The thought the way huge fraud works is that every now and then they throw some smaller fraud guy under the bus so it looks like something is being done. Then even if they get caught they just get some fine and chill in some 4 star hotel type prison.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
May 20 2015 19:34 GMT
#100965
On May 21 2015 04:22 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2015 04:18 jcarlsoniv wrote:
With the frequency that large volumes of money moves around in the farm credit industry, it is astounding that any fraud ever gets caught.


The thought the way huge fraud works is that every now and then they throw some smaller fraud guy under the bus so it looks like something is being done. Then even if they get caught they just get some fine and chill in some 4 star hotel type prison.


http://www.aba.com/Tools/BankType/Ag/Documents/FCWissue200November2014.pdf

It's been pretty interesting/entertaining to observe.
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eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
May 20 2015 19:38 GMT
#100966
On May 21 2015 03:59 TheYango wrote:
Though my gut feeling is that a college dropout would still be viewed differently than someone who deliberately chose not to go to college in the first place, but I have nothing to really back that up with.

you know I actually don't think I've met anyone in the field who has no time in college whatsoever. I know I haven't been treated too differently (beyond a bit of surprise if I mention I have no degree) and so I doubt that they'd be looked down on, but it might present more of a problem when it comes to getting in the door in the first place. I really have no idea.
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Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
May 20 2015 19:48 GMT
#100967
Of the people that I know personally who work in information technology / computer science etc, none of them have bachelors degrees in their field. I know one college dropout, and several people who stopped at an AA because they already had jobs by then.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23448 Posts
May 20 2015 19:49 GMT
#100968
On May 21 2015 04:19 Seuss wrote:
Slayer91 typically eats marbles.


I won't stand for these rumours. Where is your proof?
aka Teutonica
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-20 19:50:57
May 20 2015 19:50 GMT
#100969
On May 21 2015 04:48 Ketara wrote:
Of the people that I know personally who work in information technology / computer science etc, none of them have bachelors degrees in their field. I know one college dropout, and several people who stopped at an AA because they already had jobs by then.


There's a huge difference in job functions and compensation between "IT" and "computer science."
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Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
May 20 2015 19:56 GMT
#100970
Well, the people that I am talking about all make money in excess of 6 figures for major tech companies, so maybe IT is more the correct term.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-20 20:03:52
May 20 2015 20:00 GMT
#100971
IT = maintaining hardware/software infrastructure for a company/institution; programming work is typically limited to basic scripting, and they're generally not designing/developing new hardware/software. Typically this is considered to require the least schooling/training and has lower compensation.

Computer Science = the academic study of computer science; this is usually done in an academic setting or research institution--while usually what people study in school is "computer science" most people don't actually do this when they go to work because a lot of people aren't interested in the relatively academic aspects of the field.

Software Engineering = designing and writing software; this is what people are usually referring to when they call someone a computer programmer--someone who writes code and develops software applications as their primary function. Depending on the company, the line can be blurred between IT and SE/SD, though based on overlapping functions in their roles.

If your friends are working for major tech companies and making that kind of money, they're probably employed as software engineers.
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ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-20 20:04:39
May 20 2015 20:04 GMT
#100972
I'd argue there is a strait "programmer" level somewhere between or beside comp sci which is what comp sci students do after school. Not quite a software engineer if your not designing anything and just fulfilling tickets/specs someone else defined. but def more programming oriented than IT. of course i could just be stuck up.
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
May 20 2015 20:05 GMT
#100973
Anyway, just saying that in my personal experience I know several people with good tech jobs and little to no formal schooling.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 20 2015 20:06 GMT
#100974
Sometimes I wonder if I make more or less than I should in my field.
It's your boy Guzma!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-20 20:08:21
May 20 2015 20:08 GMT
#100975
On May 21 2015 05:04 ComaDose wrote:
I'd argue there is a strait "programmer" level somewhere between or beside comp sci which is what comp sci students do after school. Not quite a software engineer if your not designing anything and just fulfilling tickets/specs someone else defined. but def more programming oriented than IT. of course i could just be stuck up.

As I said, the distinction can be a bit blurry.

Plus I think companies still try to hire people into those positions as "software engineers", if only so that they're more likely to entice (over)qualified applicants, lol.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 20 2015 20:08 GMT
#100976
Someday I will earn money.
Someday.....
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 20 2015 20:08 GMT
#100977
I'm certainly doing less. Maybe if at the end of the year (or rather start of next) I can't negociate a raise I'll look elsewhere.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
May 20 2015 20:10 GMT
#100978
On May 21 2015 05:08 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2015 05:04 ComaDose wrote:
I'd argue there is a strait "programmer" level somewhere between or beside comp sci which is what comp sci students do after school. Not quite a software engineer if your not designing anything and just fulfilling tickets/specs someone else defined. but def more programming oriented than IT. of course i could just be stuck up.

As I said, the distinction can be a bit blurry.

Plus I think companies still try to hire people into those positions as "software engineers", if only so that they're more likely to entice (over)qualified applicants, lol.

ah good point i missed the SD in there that makes perfect sense.
"design engineer" is another enticing title i see them use too lol
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
May 20 2015 20:10 GMT
#100979
On May 21 2015 05:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
Someday I will earn money.
Someday.....


I am contractually bound to not earn any money for the next 6 months and I kind of love it.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
May 20 2015 20:13 GMT
#100980
On May 21 2015 05:05 Ketara wrote:
Anyway, just saying that in my personal experience I know several people with good tech jobs and little to no formal schooling.

I know people like that, but they're actually very well qualified, and have been working their asses off for some time in the field.

Meanwhile I have jack shit training in what I do and no one in their right mind should've hired me for a software dev role given that I studied and did research in glorious Guomindong subject of econometrics, but because I had fancy diploma from top 10 US school I just got job offers anyways that pay me to moderate wei2coolman.
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