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On November 15 2020 00:07 Zergiica wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2020 00:02 CraigWT wrote:
Koreans.... According to Time, almost all Koreans haven't practiced hard since GSL is over. They just don't care this tournament. If we cannot have offline global tournament next year, I'm pretty sure Korean sc2 will totally die then well, i don't understand it. you have a chance to earn 10k+ USD while sitting at home. and you don't care? i would like to hear a reason for it.
I don't know why they don't care, but it is true that the top koreans practice quite little during their "off season". Time said Inno just play like 5-10 games each today when no GSL games, and play 20+ games when there is gsl games. Rogue is in the similar situation.
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On November 15 2020 00:12 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2020 00:07 Zergiica wrote:On November 15 2020 00:02 CraigWT wrote:
Koreans.... According to Time, almost all Koreans haven't practiced hard since GSL is over. They just don't care this tournament. If we cannot have offline global tournament next year, I'm pretty sure Korean sc2 will totally die then well, i don't understand it. you have a chance to earn 10k+ USD while sitting at home. and you don't care? i would like to hear a reason for it. Trap seemed to care judging from his reactions, by the way. King of Battles was played online one month ago, it had a smaller prize pool and was not worth ESL points either; koreans won big. Did they care? Foreigners didn't care?
well serral, clem or reynor played good, got far in that tournament. so, i wouldn't compare it. i said: it is ok to lose. this was a disaster, B- level.
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On November 15 2020 00:09 buzz_bender wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2020 00:07 Zergiica wrote:On November 15 2020 00:02 CraigWT wrote:
Koreans.... According to Time, almost all Koreans haven't practiced hard since GSL is over. They just don't care this tournament. If we cannot have offline global tournament next year, I'm pretty sure Korean sc2 will totally die then well, i don't understand it. you have a chance to earn 10k+ USD while sitting at home. and you don't care? i would like to hear a reason for it. Because most of them already have won hundreds of thousands of dollars and 10k+ USD is nothing much for them? It is only Armani that is the least accomplished of the bunch.
Well, I would say normally money is money but TY has already earned $80k + whatever he made from casting. So 10k is not really 10k for him, I presume that it would be taxed in one of the higher income brackets in Korea leaving him with much less than 10k.
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United States33708 Posts
On November 15 2020 00:12 Penev wrote:
show the rooms ffs
Neeb's room is so soulless.... are we sure he's not a former child soldier who's now being manipulated by a shadow government known as "the patriots"?
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On November 15 2020 00:12 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2020 00:07 Zergiica wrote:On November 15 2020 00:02 CraigWT wrote:
Koreans.... According to Time, almost all Koreans haven't practiced hard since GSL is over. They just don't care this tournament. If we cannot have offline global tournament next year, I'm pretty sure Korean sc2 will totally die then well, i don't understand it. you have a chance to earn 10k+ USD while sitting at home. and you don't care? i would like to hear a reason for it. Trap seemed to care judging from his reactions, by the way. King of Battles was played online one month ago, it had a smaller prize pool and was not worth ESL points either; koreans won big. Did they care? Foreigners didn't care?
I guess King of Battles had qualifiers instead of invites, so that helps get the players that really wanna play
these invites just finished at the top of GSL so they probably took a break, these GSL players have been around for so many years and if they never took breaks then their wrists would be dead by now
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On November 15 2020 00:14 kaykoose wrote:
How in the world does losing a single Bo5 mean the player doesn't care about winning? Neeb just stomped TY in this one match today... it's that simple. To suggest that players who won a few hundred thousand over 8-10 years don't care to win another 5 figure check is just dumb.
Except with TY it's not a single Bo5, it's a multi-year pattern that is blatantly obvious from 100$ online events to 10000$ online events
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On November 15 2020 00:15 Waxangel wrote:Neeb's room is so soulless.... are we sure he's not a former child soldier who's now being manipulated by a shadow government known as "the patriots"?
I was wondering if the soullessness doesn't function kind of like osmosis, thus sucking in TY's soul and leaving him empty and dumb for the games...
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The corruptor admiral has arrived, all hope is lost for TIME
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On November 15 2020 00:14 Zergiica wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2020 00:12 Xain0n wrote:On November 15 2020 00:07 Zergiica wrote:On November 15 2020 00:02 CraigWT wrote:
Koreans.... According to Time, almost all Koreans haven't practiced hard since GSL is over. They just don't care this tournament. If we cannot have offline global tournament next year, I'm pretty sure Korean sc2 will totally die then well, i don't understand it. you have a chance to earn 10k+ USD while sitting at home. and you don't care? i would like to hear a reason for it. Trap seemed to care judging from his reactions, by the way. King of Battles was played online one month ago, it had a smaller prize pool and was not worth ESL points either; koreans won big. Did they care? Foreigners didn't care? well serral, clem or reynor played good, got far in that tournament. so, i wouldn't compare it. i said: it is ok to lose. this was a disaster, B- level.
Hm, I think I didn't make my point clear; when similar tournaments played with similar conditions happen so close to each other and present such different results, the excuses like lag, timezones, lack of interest just die out.
Foreigners are competitive with koreans so there might very well be a tournament with 3 koreans in the ro4 and another one with 3(at least) foreigners in the ro4; it should be viewed as normal right now.
Yes, foreigners didn't do that bad in KoB and koreans' performance in this tournament thus far has been comparatively worse; however, TSL 5 has been awful for forigners if we exclude the first weekend while DH finals have been very even and hard fought.
Foreigners aren't better than koreans yet, of course, but people should realize they are not living in 2014 anymore(and not even in 2017).
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On November 15 2020 00:12 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2020 00:07 Zergiica wrote:On November 15 2020 00:02 CraigWT wrote:
Koreans.... According to Time, almost all Koreans haven't practiced hard since GSL is over. They just don't care this tournament. If we cannot have offline global tournament next year, I'm pretty sure Korean sc2 will totally die then well, i don't understand it. you have a chance to earn 10k+ USD while sitting at home. and you don't care? i would like to hear a reason for it. Trap seemed to care judging from his reactions, by the way. King of Battles was played online one month ago, it had a smaller prize pool and was not worth ESL points either; koreans won big. Did they care? Foreigners didn't care?
Maybe it was GSL practice factor, TY and Maru were on fire before GSL and played good now they played without this tonus, just my fifty cents.
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On November 15 2020 00:06 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2020 23:54 Die4Ever wrote:On November 14 2020 23:53 Zergiica wrote:
man, this was boring... just can't belive what is with koreans in this tournament. it is ok to lose, but way they lost so many games is awful, as B- players. i feel bad for sc2 future if this is reality. I feel like this happens all the time in online tournaments, even back to TSL3 everyone was like "OMG koreans bad, foreigners good?"... online tournaments just don't really amount to anything but people keep forgetting Ah, so how comes a similar thing happened offline in Korea(GLS vs the World 2019)? No one would believe the results of this DH finals set in stone that foreigners have overtaken koreans, the situation seems to fluctuate and we also have tournaments that koreans dominate in old fashion. However, you have to accept the fact there are now foreigners who can, sometimes, be superior to even the best koreans and respect the fact that even the other strong foreigners can be competitive against them. With Clem and Reynor on the rise, Serral still an absolute beast and Neeb apparently back to his 2016/2017's level, non korean Sc2 may have never looked that strong.
and korean sc2 never looked weaker with like half of the top players from 4 years ago having retired and others being far from their best form for reasons like injuries (Dark) or lack of motivation (sOs).
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On November 15 2020 00:23 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2020 00:14 Zergiica wrote:On November 15 2020 00:12 Xain0n wrote:On November 15 2020 00:07 Zergiica wrote:On November 15 2020 00:02 CraigWT wrote:
Koreans.... According to Time, almost all Koreans haven't practiced hard since GSL is over. They just don't care this tournament. If we cannot have offline global tournament next year, I'm pretty sure Korean sc2 will totally die then well, i don't understand it. you have a chance to earn 10k+ USD while sitting at home. and you don't care? i would like to hear a reason for it. Trap seemed to care judging from his reactions, by the way. King of Battles was played online one month ago, it had a smaller prize pool and was not worth ESL points either; koreans won big. Did they care? Foreigners didn't care? well serral, clem or reynor played good, got far in that tournament. so, i wouldn't compare it. i said: it is ok to lose. this was a disaster, B- level. Hm, I think I didn't make my point clear; when similar tournaments played with similar conditions happen so close to each other and present such different results, the excuses like lag, timezones, lack of interest just die out. Foreigners are competitive with koreans so there might very well be a tournament with 3 koreans in the ro4 and another one with 3(at least) foreigners in the ro4; it should be viewed as normal right now. Yes, foreigners didn't do that bad in KoB and koreans' performance in this tournament thus far has been comparatively worse; however, TSL 5 has been awful for forigners if we exclude the first weekend while DH finals have been very even and hard fought. Foreigners aren't better than koreans yet, of course, but people should realize they are not living in 2014 anymore(and not even in 2017).
that's not the point though. The point is that Korean scene is in shambles for sure and I wonder what the players are doing to change that. I only see Solar being pretty vocal about it and this interview where TY and Stats express their opinion in a very submissive way (maybe that's simply because of the culture)
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EDIT: put the link in spoiler tags, sorry about it
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TY out I'm sad as fuck 
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On November 15 2020 00:25 DiMano wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2020 00:12 Xain0n wrote:On November 15 2020 00:07 Zergiica wrote:On November 15 2020 00:02 CraigWT wrote:
Koreans.... According to Time, almost all Koreans haven't practiced hard since GSL is over. They just don't care this tournament. If we cannot have offline global tournament next year, I'm pretty sure Korean sc2 will totally die then well, i don't understand it. you have a chance to earn 10k+ USD while sitting at home. and you don't care? i would like to hear a reason for it. Trap seemed to care judging from his reactions, by the way. King of Battles was played online one month ago, it had a smaller prize pool and was not worth ESL points either; koreans won big. Did they care? Foreigners didn't care? Maybe it was GSL practice factor, TY and Maru were on fire before GSL and played good now they played without this tonus, just my fifty cents.
Even if, it's not a matter of being korean or not. We live in the post Serral era and believing than koreans at their best are always better than foreigners at their best is delusion.
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well that was a weird one
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Russian Federation40190 Posts
On November 15 2020 00:15 Waxangel wrote:Neeb's room is so soulless.... are we sure he's not a former child soldier who's now being manipulated by a shadow government known as "the patriots"?
I mean, Neeb's room looks exactly how a room of someone with Neeb's playstyle would look like.
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I'm laughing so hard right now
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Funny how Serral missed the kill timing pulling back the roaches for 20 seconds which lost him the game there.. Should of been such a easy win, so actually Time pushing with that marine ball won him the game in the end
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EPT
