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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
November 14 2020 15:33 GMT
#641
On November 15 2020 00:32 dbRic1203 wrote:
IDRA GG?

Nah, absolutely reasonable one.

That said, this game was hilarious. Terrans can sOs zergs too, apparently.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
HsDLTitich
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Italy831 Posts
November 14 2020 15:34 GMT
#642
I'm used to Serral GGeing way sooner than any other player would, but even by his standards I think that was kinda weird
I used to organize tournaments for ESL Italy and referee Go4SC2s, WCSs, and IEMs for ESL SC2.
Zergiica
Profile Joined October 2015
Croatia128 Posts
November 14 2020 15:34 GMT
#643
On November 15 2020 00:23 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2020 00:14 Zergiica wrote:
On November 15 2020 00:12 Xain0n wrote:
On November 15 2020 00:07 Zergiica wrote:
On November 15 2020 00:02 CraigWT wrote:
Koreans.... According to Time, almost all Koreans haven't practiced hard since GSL is over. They just don't care this tournament. If we cannot have offline global tournament next year, I'm pretty sure Korean sc2 will totally die then


well, i don't understand it. you have a chance to earn 10k+ USD while sitting at home. and you don't care? i would like to hear a reason for it.


Trap seemed to care judging from his reactions, by the way.
King of Battles was played online one month ago, it had a smaller prize pool and was not worth ESL points either; koreans won big. Did they care? Foreigners didn't care?


well serral, clem or reynor played good, got far in that tournament. so, i wouldn't compare it. i said: it is ok to lose. this was a disaster, B- level.


Hm, I think I didn't make my point clear; when similar tournaments played with similar conditions happen so close to each other and present such different results, the excuses like lag, timezones, lack of interest just die out.
Foreigners are competitive with koreans so there might very well be a tournament with 3 koreans in the ro4 and another one with 3(at least) foreigners in the ro4; it should be viewed as normal right now.

Yes, foreigners didn't do that bad in KoB and koreans' performance in this tournament thus far has been comparatively worse; however, TSL 5 has been awful for forigners if we exclude the first weekend while DH finals have been very even and hard fought.
Foreigners aren't better than koreans yet, of course, but people should realize they are not living in 2014 anymore(and not even in 2017).


your point was clear, i just wanted to say you can't compare top level game from foreigners and their loss to B- level and loss. there is a clear problem here, it is hard to ignore it.

on topic: this game was weird! but good weird.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28528 Posts
November 14 2020 15:34 GMT
#644
let's start another Serral tilt discussion
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33599 Posts
November 14 2020 15:36 GMT
#645
Any terran experts wanna tell me why 2-1-1 is back in the last few weeks :0?
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Jacenoob
Profile Joined August 2014
299 Posts
November 14 2020 15:36 GMT
#646
On November 15 2020 00:34 Penev wrote:
let's start another Serral tilt discussion


Sure! He tilted and gg'ed out of a winnable game. He was behind, but it was not over.
SamirDuran
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines895 Posts
November 14 2020 15:37 GMT
#647
On November 15 2020 00:36 Waxangel wrote:
Any terran experts wanna tell me why 2-1-1 is back in the last few weeks :0?

maybe because of ByuN?
Don't practice until you can get it right, practice until you can't get it wrong.
ilax30
Profile Joined November 2019
720 Posts
November 14 2020 15:37 GMT
#648
On November 15 2020 00:36 Waxangel wrote:
Any terran experts wanna tell me why 2-1-1 is back in the last few weeks :0?


This wasnt a 2-1-1 but I can imagine with the amount of early roach pushes 2-1-1 gives you a advantage and can deal dmg to greedy zergs. But other than that, blegh
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28528 Posts
November 14 2020 15:38 GMT
#649
On November 15 2020 00:36 Jacenoob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2020 00:34 Penev wrote:
let's start another Serral tilt discussion


Sure! He tilted and gg'ed out of a winnable game. He was behind, but it was not over.

how will this affect his play in the rest of the series?
I Protoss winner, could it be?
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4081 Posts
November 14 2020 15:38 GMT
#650
On November 15 2020 00:36 Waxangel wrote:
Any terran experts wanna tell me why 2-1-1 is back in the last few weeks :0?


nice bait Wax
Drone is a way of living
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
November 14 2020 15:39 GMT
#651
On November 15 2020 00:36 Jacenoob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2020 00:34 Penev wrote:
let's start another Serral tilt discussion


Sure! He tilted and gg'ed out of a winnable game. He was behind, but it was not over.


he really did
casters are justifying it but it really wasn't justified. he pretty much just gave up because he thought he was way more behind than he was. they talk about him not having drones but didnt he have more workers?
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
November 14 2020 15:41 GMT
#652
On November 15 2020 00:39 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2020 00:36 Jacenoob wrote:
On November 15 2020 00:34 Penev wrote:
let's start another Serral tilt discussion


Sure! He tilted and gg'ed out of a winnable game. He was behind, but it was not over.


he really did
casters are justifying it but it really wasn't justified. he pretty much just gave up because he thought he was way more behind than he was. they talk about him not having drones but didnt he have more workers?

Yeah I have definitely seen players come back from worse positions
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Javah
Profile Joined August 2010
France739 Posts
November 14 2020 15:41 GMT
#653
Serral tilts so easily these days it is really becoming a weakness. We used to see him fight to the bitter end and win from seemingly unwinnable positions...
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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-14 15:42:15
November 14 2020 15:41 GMT
#654
Time was playing Serral's mind and then died to 4 high ground banes.

I am not even sure if it's funny or sad.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
November 14 2020 15:42 GMT
#655
TIME really just goes for it, he doesn't hesitate
Year of MaxPax
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
November 14 2020 15:42 GMT
#656
This series sure is something
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
ilax30
Profile Joined November 2019
720 Posts
November 14 2020 15:42 GMT
#657
On November 15 2020 00:39 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2020 00:36 Jacenoob wrote:
On November 15 2020 00:34 Penev wrote:
let's start another Serral tilt discussion


Sure! He tilted and gg'ed out of a winnable game. He was behind, but it was not over.


he really did
casters are justifying it but it really wasn't justified. he pretty much just gave up because he thought he was way more behind than he was. they talk about him not having drones but didnt he have more workers?


So Serral had 7 more drones but you have to look at the infrastructure. Serral only had a roach warren, no bane nest, still on hatch tec. He saw Time had combat shields, stim, medivacs and a 3rd CC. So its not like he can drone up massively as he was about about to be dropped by 16 stim+combat marines so he needed to make roaches to defend.

And then Time was even busy getting his 1-1 up, dunno if Serral knew about that. So all in all, the game really was over.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
November 14 2020 15:43 GMT
#658
On November 15 2020 00:42 ilax30 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2020 00:39 travis wrote:
On November 15 2020 00:36 Jacenoob wrote:
On November 15 2020 00:34 Penev wrote:
let's start another Serral tilt discussion


Sure! He tilted and gg'ed out of a winnable game. He was behind, but it was not over.


he really did
casters are justifying it but it really wasn't justified. he pretty much just gave up because he thought he was way more behind than he was. they talk about him not having drones but didnt he have more workers?


So Serral had 7 more drones but you have to look at the infrastructure. Serral only had a roach warren, no bane nest, still on hatch tec. He saw Time had combat shields, stim, medivacs and a 3rd CC. So its not like he can drone up massively as he was about about to be dropped by 16 stim+combat marines so he needed to make roaches to defend.

And then Time was even busy getting his 1-1 up, dunno if Serral knew about that. So all in all, the game really was over.

I stand by it, I have seen players come back from worse positions
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
November 14 2020 15:45 GMT
#659
On November 15 2020 00:43 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2020 00:42 ilax30 wrote:
On November 15 2020 00:39 travis wrote:
On November 15 2020 00:36 Jacenoob wrote:
On November 15 2020 00:34 Penev wrote:
let's start another Serral tilt discussion


Sure! He tilted and gg'ed out of a winnable game. He was behind, but it was not over.


he really did
casters are justifying it but it really wasn't justified. he pretty much just gave up because he thought he was way more behind than he was. they talk about him not having drones but didnt he have more workers?


So Serral had 7 more drones but you have to look at the infrastructure. Serral only had a roach warren, no bane nest, still on hatch tec. He saw Time had combat shields, stim, medivacs and a 3rd CC. So its not like he can drone up massively as he was about about to be dropped by 16 stim+combat marines so he needed to make roaches to defend.

And then Time was even busy getting his 1-1 up, dunno if Serral knew about that. So all in all, the game really was over.

I stand by it, I have seen players come back from worse positions

That just means Serral didn't think TIME was gonna fuck it up
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
ilax30
Profile Joined November 2019
720 Posts
November 14 2020 15:45 GMT
#660
On November 15 2020 00:43 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2020 00:42 ilax30 wrote:
On November 15 2020 00:39 travis wrote:
On November 15 2020 00:36 Jacenoob wrote:
On November 15 2020 00:34 Penev wrote:
let's start another Serral tilt discussion


Sure! He tilted and gg'ed out of a winnable game. He was behind, but it was not over.


he really did
casters are justifying it but it really wasn't justified. he pretty much just gave up because he thought he was way more behind than he was. they talk about him not having drones but didnt he have more workers?


So Serral had 7 more drones but you have to look at the infrastructure. Serral only had a roach warren, no bane nest, still on hatch tec. He saw Time had combat shields, stim, medivacs and a 3rd CC. So its not like he can drone up massively as he was about about to be dropped by 16 stim+combat marines so he needed to make roaches to defend.

And then Time was even busy getting his 1-1 up, dunno if Serral knew about that. So all in all, the game really was over.

I stand by it, I have seen players come back from worse positions


Yes I have seen players throw insane games as well in all my years of watching. But as a Serral you are not going to stay in every game untill you have 5 supply left. The game was 95% over, so Serral just wanted to go to the next game. Barely any pro leaves when the game is 99.9% over.
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