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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44122 Posts
March 20 2019 12:26 GMT
#101
so innovation wins WESG but losses to a GSL group stages .. seems about right

also i've never seen pulling the boys strat fail just as much
this is a quote
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
March 20 2019 12:26 GMT
#102
That recall & attack. Holy Batman on a nuclear powered pogo stick, that was a great moment.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4948 Posts
March 20 2019 12:27 GMT
#103
On March 20 2019 21:26 Mlord wrote:
Honestly great job from trap, i don't think you can do much vs him, its sad to see that he is never doing well in PvZ and PvP compare to how unbreakable he is in PvT


His PvZ is astonishing specially vs Dark. He is the only one who has beaten Dark repeatedly in those crazy ultimate battles. Also epic holds of Trap vs Leenock or Impact in GSL recently.
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
March 20 2019 12:28 GMT
#104
On March 20 2019 21:27 Argonauta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2019 21:26 Mlord wrote:
Honestly great job from trap, i don't think you can do much vs him, its sad to see that he is never doing well in PvZ and PvP compare to how unbreakable he is in PvT


His PvZ is astonishing specially vs Dark. He is the only one who has beaten Dark repeatedly in those crazy ultimate battles. Also epic holds of Trap vs Leenock or Impact in GSL recently.

Yeah, Rogue and Maru should teach him a move or two, but training PvP vs sOs is... no, just, no.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Clazziquai10
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore1949 Posts
March 20 2019 12:28 GMT
#105
Innovation goes out in his GSL group after winning WESG. Soo goes out in his GSL group after winning IEM.

Are we seeing a trend here?
xongnox
Profile Joined November 2011
540 Posts
March 20 2019 12:29 GMT
#106
On March 20 2019 21:21 Mlord wrote:
Nobody in my opinion,you can't play a macrogame in TvP, it relies on the protoss failing not the terran playing well, + trap played it brilliantly obviously

+maps.
On some maps with good libs spots + split map it's maybe ok for terran, but on most maps superior toss range and mobility straight up win if played right.
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4009 Posts
March 20 2019 12:30 GMT
#107
we all knew this would happen, and yet its still painful.
Maru should hope Dark wins group B and not hero/dear, which is ironic.
Drone is a way of living
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6929 Posts
March 20 2019 12:30 GMT
#108
And now Trap loses to sOs, because it's Trap
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
March 20 2019 12:33 GMT
#109
Shame about Inno being knocked out like this

But i'm waiting for the people who point out how he's bad at this matchup, and could only win WESG due to bracket luck and lack of good protosses in the tourney. Or do we do that just for foreigners?
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Mlord
Profile Joined February 2013
France135 Posts
March 20 2019 12:33 GMT
#110
On March 20 2019 21:29 xongnox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2019 21:21 Mlord wrote:
Nobody in my opinion,you can't play a macrogame in TvP, it relies on the protoss failing not the terran playing well, + trap played it brilliantly obviously

+maps.
On some maps with good libs spots + split map it's maybe ok for terran, but on most maps superior toss range and mobility straight up win if played right.


I don't agree with that, i don't see any map design that could make it even or favorable for terran if you reach a tempest vs libe/viking spot from an even position, if you split the map you shouldnt be able to outtrade a tempest/ht/disruptor army, especially with the level of control that people like dear and trap have
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BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
March 20 2019 12:33 GMT
#111
On March 20 2019 21:17 Mlord wrote:
Wtf berserksword maru/inno and ty are doing all terrible in lategame tvp its not because maru won vs neeb with two nukes doing 25 kill each that he is THE ultimate tvp lategame reference


TY just beat Zest lategame PvT like a week ago in olimo league finals

and I dont understand why Maru vs Neeb is not a reference? Neeb was in excellent form when Maru took him down lategame

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Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
March 20 2019 12:34 GMT
#112
On March 20 2019 21:30 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
we all knew this would happen, and yet its still painful.
Maru should hope Dark wins group B and not hero/dear, which is ironic.


Hopefully Dark can beat Maru this time.

I liked these series, if $O$ wins I've even got my Liquibet right; would definitely not mind Trap advancing.
Elmonti
Profile Joined July 2018
Spain299 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-20 12:35:35
March 20 2019 12:34 GMT
#113
On March 20 2019 21:28 Clazziquai10 wrote:
Innovation goes out in his GSL group after winning WESG. Soo goes out in his GSL group after winning IEM.

Are we seeing a trend here?


I guess you become more relaxed about your training regime after having won 150k dollars like 4 days ago ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ...
Doko
Profile Joined May 2010
Argentina1737 Posts
March 20 2019 12:34 GMT
#114
On March 20 2019 21:29 xongnox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2019 21:21 Mlord wrote:
Nobody in my opinion,you can't play a macrogame in TvP, it relies on the protoss failing not the terran playing well, + trap played it brilliantly obviously

+maps.
On some maps with good libs spots + split map it's maybe ok for terran, but on most maps superior toss range and mobility straight up win if played right.


Kind of but a protoss with a brain that actually notices you are turtling and doesn't max on zealots just picks your libs apart with a tempest max. Takes ages to get the necessary infrastructure and upgrades for thors to hold ground vs tempests without getting picked apart.
Kazi25
Profile Joined July 2016
Philippines236 Posts
March 20 2019 12:34 GMT
#115
I kinda expected for Inno to drop out but I thought it would be on the final match. Not enough time to prepare for this group plus winning a lot of money can make you lax. These guys are not that greedy anymore which is good for other players.
Doko
Profile Joined May 2010
Argentina1737 Posts
March 20 2019 12:37 GMT
#116
go trap! classic already delivered, now its on you to make my liquibet 2/2!
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
March 20 2019 12:38 GMT
#117
Playing him like an ocarina
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
March 20 2019 12:38 GMT
#118
On March 20 2019 21:34 Doko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2019 21:29 xongnox wrote:
On March 20 2019 21:21 Mlord wrote:
Nobody in my opinion,you can't play a macrogame in TvP, it relies on the protoss failing not the terran playing well, + trap played it brilliantly obviously

+maps.
On some maps with good libs spots + split map it's maybe ok for terran, but on most maps superior toss range and mobility straight up win if played right.


Kind of but a protoss with a brain that actually notices you are turtling and doesn't max on zealots just picks your libs apart with a tempest max. Takes ages to get the necessary infrastructure and upgrades for thors to hold ground vs tempests without getting picked apart.


You don't go thors

you go ghost, lib, viking

TL+ Member
Jerom
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands588 Posts
March 20 2019 12:39 GMT
#119
On March 20 2019 21:33 BerserkSword wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2019 21:17 Mlord wrote:
Wtf berserksword maru/inno and ty are doing all terrible in lategame tvp its not because maru won vs neeb with two nukes doing 25 kill each that he is THE ultimate tvp lategame reference


TY just beat Zest lategame PvT like a week ago in olimo league finals

and I dont understand why Maru vs Neeb is not a reference? Neeb was in excellent form when Maru took him down lategame


I went over that game. TY did not beat Zest lategame because Zest didn't even reach the lategame stage. In that macro game Zest literally failed to get more than 60 probes and then was using 3 tempest without an oracle revelation for a little bit, to then lose them and play with a gateway army against lategame terran. It's possibly the worst reference to saying TvP lategame is fine. You might as well just show a cannon rush and say terran can win lategame.
Mlord
Profile Joined February 2013
France135 Posts
March 20 2019 12:46 GMT
#120
On March 20 2019 21:33 BerserkSword wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2019 21:17 Mlord wrote:
Wtf berserksword maru/inno and ty are doing all terrible in lategame tvp its not because maru won vs neeb with two nukes doing 25 kill each that he is THE ultimate tvp lategame reference


TY just beat Zest lategame PvT like a week ago in olimo league finals

and I dont understand why Maru vs Neeb is not a reference? Neeb was in excellent form when Maru took him down lategame



I'm not sure what to say about that, i watched both game as it was very interesting to see them playing lategame and i don't think you can expect those two game to be the norm for PvT lategame, zest barely survived a libe tank push timing because he had an extremely late tempest transition, and neeb had like one good move where he caught 10liberator offguard vs maru catching neeb colossus/tempest like 3 4 times on top of nuking 50probe with only 2nukes, if you compare the amount of mistakes it's kind of comparing people losing with broodlord infestor on WOL, it happened alot of time, but it will never change the fact that it was incredibly unfair
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