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Czech Republic12129 Posts
On November 26 2018 07:54 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2018 07:52 deacon.frost wrote:On November 26 2018 07:52 Poopi wrote:On November 26 2018 07:50 deacon.frost wrote:On November 26 2018 07:49 gTank wrote:
Fuck yeah Serral did it again!!! Cant wait for the korean fanboys make up excuses on how he still is not the best player atm. Well as we just saw he has issues against Terrans and the top terrans were not there(TY, Maru), so technically we don't know. Both Maru and TY are a level above Innovation(or at least they were from what we know). Even Gumiho is better than Inno in my eyes(though not that much of difference). And since Maru was winning Code S ...  I think INno got better than Gumiho during BlizzCon period HOWEVER, Gumiho would be good at the uThermal style so depending on how viable it really is Gumiho might be better vZ Even if, both Maru and TY were level above Innovation if we go from the old data. So "now Serral is the best because he has beaten 2nd grade Korean Terrans" doesn't really apply. Serral is a monster tho He adapted really well from shaky bo against Bunny and TaeJa. INno played really well but made some key mistakes when ahead (acid plant especially) Maru is a bit more decisive than INno and has better micro so it'd be really interesting to see a Serral vs Maru on this patch Serral adaptation and clutchness is still epic He was behind in a lot of bo5+ this year and still managed to win, against great competition Excited for 2019!
Oh yeah, I'm not denying that, but pronouncing him the best player is kinda weird cosindering his biggest enemies were removed by a team kill and Rogue at Blizzcon. Well, cest la vie 
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On November 26 2018 07:55 Pandain wrote:
Best SC2 year of any player all time.
In terms of money? Or your feelings?
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On November 26 2018 07:55 polpot wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2018 07:54 Toua wrote:On November 26 2018 07:53 polpot wrote:On November 26 2018 07:52 sneakyfox wrote:On November 26 2018 07:51 Weavel wrote:
This proves that Serral is best in all 3 matchups. So clutch. You really saw ZvT this weekend that was better than what Dark does? yes i would say. lol i love dark, but he is notorious for being a kong , he would have choke vs inno
That does not mean Dark has worse ZvT lol
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On November 26 2018 07:55 polpot wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2018 07:54 Toua wrote:On November 26 2018 07:53 polpot wrote:On November 26 2018 07:52 sneakyfox wrote:On November 26 2018 07:51 Weavel wrote:
This proves that Serral is best in all 3 matchups. So clutch. You really saw ZvT this weekend that was better than what Dark does? yes i would say. lol i love dark, but he is notorious for being a kong , he would have choke vs inno
That's Dark being bad at finals though, not being bad at ZvT.
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Congrats to Serral! Still on top! Very rntertaining final.
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On November 26 2018 07:52 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2018 07:52 Poopi wrote:On November 26 2018 07:50 deacon.frost wrote:On November 26 2018 07:49 gTank wrote:
Fuck yeah Serral did it again!!! Cant wait for the korean fanboys make up excuses on how he still is not the best player atm. Well as we just saw he has issues against Terrans and the top terrans were not there(TY, Maru), so technically we don't know. Both Maru and TY are a level above Innovation(or at least they were from what we know). Even Gumiho is better than Inno in my eyes(though not that much of difference). And since Maru was winning Code S ... I think INno got better than Gumiho during BlizzCon period HOWEVER, Gumiho would be good at the uThermal style so depending on how viable it really is Gumiho might be better vZ Even if, both Maru and TY were level above Innovation if we go from the old data. So "now Serral is the best because he has beaten 2nd grade Korean Terrans" doesn't really apply.
Inno freaking vation is a 2nd grade Terran?!?! I've seen it all on here
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On November 26 2018 07:56 Mozdk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2018 07:55 Pandain wrote:
Best SC2 year of any player all time. In terms of money? Or your feelings? Results if I had to guess.
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On November 26 2018 07:52 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2018 07:52 Poopi wrote:On November 26 2018 07:50 deacon.frost wrote:On November 26 2018 07:49 gTank wrote:
Fuck yeah Serral did it again!!! Cant wait for the korean fanboys make up excuses on how he still is not the best player atm. Well as we just saw he has issues against Terrans and the top terrans were not there(TY, Maru), so technically we don't know. Both Maru and TY are a level above Innovation(or at least they were from what we know). Even Gumiho is better than Inno in my eyes(though not that much of difference). And since Maru was winning Code S ... I think INno got better than Gumiho during BlizzCon period HOWEVER, Gumiho would be good at the uThermal style so depending on how viable it really is Gumiho might be better vZ Even if, both Maru and TY were level above Innovation if we go from the old data. So "now Serral is the best because he has beaten 2nd grade Korean Terrans" doesn't really apply.
Does Serral is the best, because he won 40 matches straight, 3 WCS, GSL vs the World, Blizzcon and the most stacked Homestory Cup in a long while, apply?
Just ask yourself in all honesty: If Serral was Korean and Maru was a foreigner who bumped out before the finals in the two tournaments he had the chance to dethrone Serral, would you even have this discussion right now?
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The fanboyism here does not dissapoint :D
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I really hope Homestory Cup stays around for a while. 20 will be great, but I hope it goes further. By far the best tournament in the eSports-Scene, imo.
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On November 26 2018 07:53 polpot wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2018 07:52 sneakyfox wrote:On November 26 2018 07:51 Weavel wrote:
This proves that Serral is best in all 3 matchups. So clutch. You really saw ZvT this weekend that was better than what Dark does? yes i would say.
Dark smashed Inno 3-0 in the WESG qualifiers and it looked like a pro player laddering up a smurf account.
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France12911 Posts
On November 26 2018 07:56 IshinShishi wrote:
I invite you all to rewatch the TvCreep that was last game and see how many units were lost at the 10 minute mark, it was just scans and tumors and more scans and more tumors, it was hillarious.
Speaking about that, I dunno if it's because of the openings / early game, but Serral's creep spread seemed far better than Reynor.
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On November 26 2018 07:56 kaykoose wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2018 07:52 deacon.frost wrote:On November 26 2018 07:52 Poopi wrote:On November 26 2018 07:50 deacon.frost wrote:On November 26 2018 07:49 gTank wrote:
Fuck yeah Serral did it again!!! Cant wait for the korean fanboys make up excuses on how he still is not the best player atm. Well as we just saw he has issues against Terrans and the top terrans were not there(TY, Maru), so technically we don't know. Both Maru and TY are a level above Innovation(or at least they were from what we know). Even Gumiho is better than Inno in my eyes(though not that much of difference). And since Maru was winning Code S ... I think INno got better than Gumiho during BlizzCon period HOWEVER, Gumiho would be good at the uThermal style so depending on how viable it really is Gumiho might be better vZ Even if, both Maru and TY were level above Innovation if we go from the old data. So "now Serral is the best because he has beaten 2nd grade Korean Terrans" doesn't really apply. Inno freaking vation is a 2nd grade Terran?!?! I've seen it all on here
lol. tbf, I think in 2018 he was probably worse than Maru, TY and GuMiho but right now, I think he's the second best terran and is back in the top 10 players in general.
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On November 26 2018 07:58 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2018 07:56 IshinShishi wrote:
I invite you all to rewatch the TvCreep that was last game and see how many units were lost at the 10 minute mark, it was just scans and tumors and more scans and more tumors, it was hillarious. Speaking about that, I dunno if it's because of the openings / early game, but Serral's creep spread seemed far better than Reynor.
Reynor's not very good at creep spread even compared to the other European zergs other than Serral.
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To be honest Innovation got outplayed really hard by Serral who didn't even have an advantage coming from the upper bracket
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Dark absolutely has better ZvT than Serral but Serral's better at the other matchups and better overall
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On November 26 2018 07:58 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2018 07:58 Poopi wrote:On November 26 2018 07:56 IshinShishi wrote:
I invite you all to rewatch the TvCreep that was last game and see how many units were lost at the 10 minute mark, it was just scans and tumors and more scans and more tumors, it was hillarious. Speaking about that, I dunno if it's because of the openings / early game, but Serral's creep spread seemed far better than Reynor. Reynor's not very good at creep spread even compared to the other European zergs.
So there you have it, tell Reynor to focus on that and he is the next Serral.
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i don't like the vegas move.
i guess it's worth a try for the 20th anniversary tho
DARK PLS SHOW UP TO ATLEAST THIS ONE !!!!!!!!!
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On November 26 2018 07:56 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2018 07:55 polpot wrote:On November 26 2018 07:54 Toua wrote:On November 26 2018 07:53 polpot wrote:On November 26 2018 07:52 sneakyfox wrote:On November 26 2018 07:51 Weavel wrote:
This proves that Serral is best in all 3 matchups. So clutch. You really saw ZvT this weekend that was better than what Dark does? yes i would say. lol i love dark, but he is notorious for being a kong , he would have choke vs inno That's Dark being bad at finals though, not being bad at ZvT.
winning a when it matter contribute to be the best Zvt player
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Congrats Serral. Another year, another great HSC!
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