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D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
November 25 2018 18:25 GMT
#461
On November 26 2018 03:24 TheNewEra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2018 03:21 Zzzapper wrote:
On November 26 2018 03:20 Bagration wrote:
What's the advantage for Serral vs. the Lower Bracket winner? 2 map win lead?

It was 1 map last HSC

no map advantage if I recall Naruto right

Apparently.

https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/539390-hsc-xviii-championship-sunday?page=2#37
why even
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7187 Posts
November 25 2018 18:25 GMT
#462
On November 26 2018 03:24 TheNewEra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2018 03:21 Zzzapper wrote:
On November 26 2018 03:20 Bagration wrote:
What's the advantage for Serral vs. the Lower Bracket winner? 2 map win lead?

It was 1 map last HSC

no map advantage if I recall Naruto right

Well that's bs
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
November 25 2018 18:25 GMT
#463
On November 26 2018 03:24 TheNewEra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2018 03:21 Zzzapper wrote:
On November 26 2018 03:20 Bagration wrote:
What's the advantage for Serral vs. the Lower Bracket winner? 2 map win lead?

It was 1 map last HSC

no map advantage if I recall Naruto right

HSC is rigged against Serral.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 25 2018 18:25 GMT
#464
On November 26 2018 03:16 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2018 03:14 stilt wrote:
On November 26 2018 02:49 LordYama wrote:
Serral is probably the most patient Zerg player I've ever seen, and possibly the most patient SC2 player I've seen.


Snute and stephano beg to differ haha

Yeah, Snute's swarmhost play with gazillion static defense was forgotten

That's still nothing compared to Stephano in HotS with swarmhosts. Literally would never attack.... ever.
Doko
Profile Joined May 2010
Argentina1737 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-25 18:27:25
November 25 2018 18:26 GMT
#465
On November 26 2018 03:20 LordYama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2018 03:11 IshinShishi wrote:
On November 26 2018 03:09 LordYama wrote:
On November 26 2018 03:07 Rodya wrote:
Once again, Bunny played better than Serral the entire game until 4 medivacs got caught and then the game became virtually unwinnable.


Just so we are clear, are you commenting on the quality of play from the two players and how it led to the outcome, or is this a balance complaint saying that Zerg is OP compared to Terran?

I think zvt is imba and at the same time Serral is much better than Bunny ;D, also catching the medivacs didnt really make much of a difference , Bunny failed to find any weaknesses at all.


You think it's imba in favor of Zerg? How do you account for soO, Rogue and Reynor losing so many matches to Terrans in this tournament? They all just had a bad tournament at the same time?


Those players don't have a zergling kamikaze group triggering all the mines every time terran even hints that he is gonna push forward. The few engagement that go in their favor they kept trying to overun the terran army instead of using their brains and realizing that all they have to do is buy time until tier 3. Broodlords just push the terran back and kill all hope of ever pushing forward on the ground (so you add a million spores to your far bases) if ultras you just kill all the terran PFs and starve him out.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
November 25 2018 18:26 GMT
#466
On November 26 2018 03:25 Luolis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2018 03:24 TheNewEra wrote:
On November 26 2018 03:21 Zzzapper wrote:
On November 26 2018 03:20 Bagration wrote:
What's the advantage for Serral vs. the Lower Bracket winner? 2 map win lead?

It was 1 map last HSC

no map advantage if I recall Naruto right

Well that's bs

That's been a thing forever in SC2. I loved how in WC3 a loser always had to win 2 Bo5's while the winner just had to win one or at least was a map down.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
November 25 2018 18:26 GMT
#467
On November 26 2018 03:25 Luolis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2018 03:24 TheNewEra wrote:
On November 26 2018 03:21 Zzzapper wrote:
On November 26 2018 03:20 Bagration wrote:
What's the advantage for Serral vs. the Lower Bracket winner? 2 map win lead?

It was 1 map last HSC

no map advantage if I recall Naruto right

Well that's bs


Not my call alone. I prefer 1-0 as I believe its more fair. I was overruled by several People saying playing one more series already through LB is a disadvantage and its worse for the Show too.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 25 2018 18:27 GMT
#468
Bring back extended series.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12132 Posts
November 25 2018 18:28 GMT
#469
On November 26 2018 03:20 LordYama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2018 03:11 IshinShishi wrote:
On November 26 2018 03:09 LordYama wrote:
On November 26 2018 03:07 Rodya wrote:
Once again, Bunny played better than Serral the entire game until 4 medivacs got caught and then the game became virtually unwinnable.


Just so we are clear, are you commenting on the quality of play from the two players and how it led to the outcome, or is this a balance complaint saying that Zerg is OP compared to Terran?

I think zvt is imba and at the same time Serral is much better than Bunny ;D, also catching the medivacs didnt really make much of a difference , Bunny failed to find any weaknesses at all.


You think it's imba in favor of Zerg? How do you account for soO, Rogue and Reynor losing so many matches to Terrans in this tournament? They all just had a bad tournament at the same time?

Of those 3 only Raynor was playing good inthe tourney. Rogue didn't even try and soO was still slumping hard. Reynor needs to learn how to play vs mines as he somehow missed this era or totally forgot Using Rogue especially is a pathetic try as he played horriblpy.

(not saying ZvT is imba, but on the other hand it would explain why so many good foreigner are zergs )
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 25 2018 18:29 GMT
#470
It would be sick seeing Zest continue on his lower bracket decathalon, but I'm rooting for Innovation so we can get that Inno-Serral series.
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
November 25 2018 18:29 GMT
#471
On November 26 2018 03:28 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2018 03:20 LordYama wrote:
On November 26 2018 03:11 IshinShishi wrote:
On November 26 2018 03:09 LordYama wrote:
On November 26 2018 03:07 Rodya wrote:
Once again, Bunny played better than Serral the entire game until 4 medivacs got caught and then the game became virtually unwinnable.


Just so we are clear, are you commenting on the quality of play from the two players and how it led to the outcome, or is this a balance complaint saying that Zerg is OP compared to Terran?

I think zvt is imba and at the same time Serral is much better than Bunny ;D, also catching the medivacs didnt really make much of a difference , Bunny failed to find any weaknesses at all.


You think it's imba in favor of Zerg? How do you account for soO, Rogue and Reynor losing so many matches to Terrans in this tournament? They all just had a bad tournament at the same time?

Of those 3 only Raynor was playing good inthe tourney. Rogue didn't even try and soO was still slumping hard. Reynor needs to learn how to play vs mines as he somehow missed this era or totally forgot Using Rogue especially is a pathetic try as he played horriblpy.

(not saying ZvT is imba, but on the other hand it would explain why so many good foreigner are zergs )


So zerg has been imba during the whole history of SC2?
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 25 2018 18:30 GMT
#472
On November 26 2018 03:28 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2018 03:20 LordYama wrote:
On November 26 2018 03:11 IshinShishi wrote:
On November 26 2018 03:09 LordYama wrote:
On November 26 2018 03:07 Rodya wrote:
Once again, Bunny played better than Serral the entire game until 4 medivacs got caught and then the game became virtually unwinnable.


Just so we are clear, are you commenting on the quality of play from the two players and how it led to the outcome, or is this a balance complaint saying that Zerg is OP compared to Terran?

I think zvt is imba and at the same time Serral is much better than Bunny ;D, also catching the medivacs didnt really make much of a difference , Bunny failed to find any weaknesses at all.


You think it's imba in favor of Zerg? How do you account for soO, Rogue and Reynor losing so many matches to Terrans in this tournament? They all just had a bad tournament at the same time?

Of those 3 only Raynor was playing good inthe tourney. Rogue didn't even try and soO was still slumping hard. Reynor needs to learn how to play vs mines as he somehow missed this era or totally forgot Using Rogue especially is a pathetic try as he played horriblpy.

(not saying ZvT is imba, but on the other hand it would explain why so many good foreigner are zergs )


Are you saying that soO won the prestigious Lion King tournament while slumping hard?
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
November 25 2018 18:30 GMT
#473
On November 26 2018 03:26 NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2018 03:25 Luolis wrote:
On November 26 2018 03:24 TheNewEra wrote:
On November 26 2018 03:21 Zzzapper wrote:
On November 26 2018 03:20 Bagration wrote:
What's the advantage for Serral vs. the Lower Bracket winner? 2 map win lead?

It was 1 map last HSC

no map advantage if I recall Naruto right

Well that's bs


Not my call alone. I prefer 1-0 as I believe its more fair. I was overruled by several People saying playing one more series already through LB is a disadvantage and its worse for the Show too.


I prefer the 1-0 too which was kind of a tradition but whatever...
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
November 25 2018 18:30 GMT
#474
Zest is the sharpest player on the best form aside from Serral, so I hope he gets to the finals, inno seems slower these days than in his prime, so its hard for him to beat Serral in the current bloodbath TvZ meta.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
November 25 2018 18:31 GMT
#475
On November 26 2018 03:28 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2018 03:20 LordYama wrote:
On November 26 2018 03:11 IshinShishi wrote:
On November 26 2018 03:09 LordYama wrote:
On November 26 2018 03:07 Rodya wrote:
Once again, Bunny played better than Serral the entire game until 4 medivacs got caught and then the game became virtually unwinnable.


Just so we are clear, are you commenting on the quality of play from the two players and how it led to the outcome, or is this a balance complaint saying that Zerg is OP compared to Terran?

I think zvt is imba and at the same time Serral is much better than Bunny ;D, also catching the medivacs didnt really make much of a difference , Bunny failed to find any weaknesses at all.


You think it's imba in favor of Zerg? How do you account for soO, Rogue and Reynor losing so many matches to Terrans in this tournament? They all just had a bad tournament at the same time?

Of those 3 only Raynor was playing good inthe tourney. Rogue didn't even try and soO was still slumping hard. Reynor needs to learn how to play vs mines as he somehow missed this era or totally forgot Using Rogue especially is a pathetic try as he played horriblpy.

(not saying ZvT is imba, but on the other hand it would explain why so many good foreigner are zergs )


You seem so bitter with those smileys lol
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
November 25 2018 18:32 GMT
#476
On November 26 2018 03:30 IshinShishi wrote:
Zest is the sharpest player on the best form aside from Serral, so I hope he gets to the finals, inno seems slower these days than in his prime, so its hard for him to beat Serral in the current bloodbath TvZ meta.


INno looked crazy vs Solar though.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8217 Posts
November 25 2018 18:32 GMT
#477
The question now is if Zest's PvT really has improved a lot since the group stage or if it was more because of uThermal's admittedly poor TvP that he took him down.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 25 2018 18:33 GMT
#478
On November 26 2018 03:26 NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2018 03:25 Luolis wrote:
On November 26 2018 03:24 TheNewEra wrote:
On November 26 2018 03:21 Zzzapper wrote:
On November 26 2018 03:20 Bagration wrote:
What's the advantage for Serral vs. the Lower Bracket winner? 2 map win lead?

It was 1 map last HSC

no map advantage if I recall Naruto right

Well that's bs


Not my call alone. I prefer 1-0 as I believe its more fair. I was overruled by several People saying playing one more series already through LB is a disadvantage and its worse for the Show too.


I see both views and think either are valid.
HariSeldon
Profile Joined October 2018
Sweden114 Posts
November 25 2018 18:33 GMT
#479
I'm a terran and can cry salty tears enough to create a new dead sea, but can we like maybe wait at least a month or so of the new patch first?
Liquipedias don’t win wars.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12132 Posts
November 25 2018 18:33 GMT
#480
On November 26 2018 03:29 RaFox17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2018 03:28 deacon.frost wrote:
On November 26 2018 03:20 LordYama wrote:
On November 26 2018 03:11 IshinShishi wrote:
On November 26 2018 03:09 LordYama wrote:
On November 26 2018 03:07 Rodya wrote:
Once again, Bunny played better than Serral the entire game until 4 medivacs got caught and then the game became virtually unwinnable.


Just so we are clear, are you commenting on the quality of play from the two players and how it led to the outcome, or is this a balance complaint saying that Zerg is OP compared to Terran?

I think zvt is imba and at the same time Serral is much better than Bunny ;D, also catching the medivacs didnt really make much of a difference , Bunny failed to find any weaknesses at all.


You think it's imba in favor of Zerg? How do you account for soO, Rogue and Reynor losing so many matches to Terrans in this tournament? They all just had a bad tournament at the same time?

Of those 3 only Raynor was playing good inthe tourney. Rogue didn't even try and soO was still slumping hard. Reynor needs to learn how to play vs mines as he somehow missed this era or totally forgot Using Rogue especially is a pathetic try as he played horriblpy.

(not saying ZvT is imba, but on the other hand it would explain why so many good foreigner are zergs )


So zerg has been imba during the whole history of SC2?

YIS! Exactly!
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
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