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Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
November 24 2018 17:09 GMT
#321
On November 25 2018 02:07 Xain0n wrote:
Rofl. You guys are basically comparing HSC at 8k being played on a new patch to six months of unprecedent dominance ending up in 280k at BlizzCOn?


Honestly, this is pretty hype because it's massive upset but I think most people still think Serral is best in the world. I think Maru would beat him but we have to account for Serral winning Blizzcon and that's why I would still rank him as the best atm.
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
November 24 2018 17:09 GMT
#322
Nice trade
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
November 24 2018 17:09 GMT
#323
taeja's micro let him down a bit there
Year of MaxPax
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
November 24 2018 17:09 GMT
#324
Taeja still doesn't build turrets
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15961 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-24 17:10:42
November 24 2018 17:09 GMT
#325
On November 25 2018 02:08 Durnuu wrote:
Can we talk about the fact that burrow and unburrow are different hotkeys now and you literally can't put them on the same hotkey anymore

it's annoying as first but I think once you get used to it there's no reason to have it on the same key. seperate keys are just better in every scenario.
Terran also has it with siege/unsiege
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Rodya
Profile Joined January 2018
546 Posts
November 24 2018 17:10 GMT
#326
On November 25 2018 02:05 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2018 02:04 Fango wrote:
On November 25 2018 02:01 stilt wrote:
On November 25 2018 02:00 Charoisaur wrote:
On November 25 2018 01:58 Rodya wrote:
highest skilled era?

Taeja isn't even at his previous form yet.

The people claiming the players massively improved in the last 2-3 years might reconsider their opinion


According to some zerg pro serral is stronger than Life ever was lul.

Modern LotV is just more impressive to watch than HotS ever was. It has more focus on flashy things like micro or multitasking.

Life's timing and tactical ability are still unmatched as far as zergs go.

except TvZ imo. Dream vs Life and Dark are still the most impressive games I've ever seen.

Life was the best Zerg at making widow mines deal no damage while charging straight ahead at the Terran.
Banned for saying "zerg players are by far the biggest whiners in sc2 history" despite the fact that this forum is full of such posts about Terrans. Foreigner Elitists in control!
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
November 24 2018 17:11 GMT
#327
On November 25 2018 02:08 JJH777 wrote:
Serral has always been completely untested vs top Korean Terrans. I think blizzcon would have ended a lot differently if Serral had got matched with Maru or Ty at any point.


No way. Serral was playing perfectly at BlizzCon, now look at these mutas.
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
November 24 2018 17:11 GMT
#328
On November 25 2018 02:07 Xain0n wrote:
Rofl. You guys are basically comparing HSC at 8k being played on a new patch to six months of unprecedent dominance ending up in 280k at BlizzCOn?

is serral a patch zerg tho? weak muta control displayed here, I think he needs that free creep vision everywhere
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
November 24 2018 17:11 GMT
#329
That widowmine cloak buff is so dumb.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
November 24 2018 17:12 GMT
#330
On November 25 2018 02:09 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2018 02:08 Durnuu wrote:
Can we talk about the fact that burrow and unburrow are different hotkeys now and you literally can't put them on the same hotkey anymore

it's annoying as first but I think once you get used to it there's no reason to have it on the same key. seperate keys are just better in every scenario.
Terran also has it with siege/unsiege

It still annoys me that i don't have the option to have it the same as pre-patch
Not that I play much anymore anyway
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
November 24 2018 17:12 GMT
#331
On November 25 2018 02:11 Odoakar wrote:
That widowmine cloak buff is so dumb.


If you compare with November 2017, it's still a nerf, nice "buff"
TL+ Member
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
November 24 2018 17:12 GMT
#332
Marauder killed hatchery lol
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-24 17:13:38
November 24 2018 17:13 GMT
#333
Who would've known. :^)
why even
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-24 17:13:19
November 24 2018 17:13 GMT
#334
D-Light knew
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-24 17:13:24
November 24 2018 17:13 GMT
#335
TL LR experts knew, obviously
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
November 24 2018 17:13 GMT
#336
On November 25 2018 02:09 DieuCure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2018 02:07 Xain0n wrote:
Rofl. You guys are basically comparing HSC at 8k being played on a new patch to six months of unprecedent dominance ending up in 280k at BlizzCOn?


Well, so WeSG > GSL WCS IEM ?


I'll rephrase. A single minor tournament compared to five consecutive premier tournaments including the most prestigious one.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
November 24 2018 17:13 GMT
#337
On November 25 2018 02:08 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2018 02:03 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 25 2018 02:01 Charoisaur wrote:
On November 25 2018 01:59 stilt wrote:
Serral is really not on point but tbf that's normal, zerg has been heavely nerfed.

Terran also got heavily nerfed with the Cyclone nerf


Is it even a nerf in this match-up?

it makes shitty ravager build really strong and removes Cyclones as an emergency defense against later Roach allins if you scout them too late.

Shitty ravagers get shut down really hard by the current cyclones.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2520 Posts
November 24 2018 17:13 GMT
#338
Even if Serral wins this I don't see him winning vs Innovation.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 24 2018 17:13 GMT
#339
This patch should be called the Taeja patch
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
November 24 2018 17:14 GMT
#340
Going the distance with this one
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