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[WCS EU] Ro16 Group A Season 3 2014 - Page 40

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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
September 16 2014 21:21 GMT
#781
2ez4HappyZ
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-16 21:22:27
September 16 2014 21:21 GMT
#782
On September 17 2014 06:18 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 06:16 Yorkie wrote:
On September 17 2014 06:15 Paljas wrote:
On September 17 2014 06:12 Zenbrez wrote:
On September 17 2014 06:11 Paljas wrote:
On September 17 2014 06:10 Zenbrez wrote:
I don't know why more terrans don't do hellbat pushes. The amount of zergs I "accidentally" kill with the push is stupid, or minimally, do huge damage. While I understand I don't play people of the same caliber, the standard zerg opening does not do well against it at all.

it can be somewhat allinnish

It isn't. It's literally the exact same as the 2 reaper 6 hellion build, except you make the armory instead of the starport, it hits the exact same time. Behind it you make your 3rd CC, rax 2-3 and eng bays. It's a macro build, except instead of hellions, it's hellbats.

losing all your helions for potential drone kills is somewhat allinnish itself. ye, you dont lose the game, but zerg can gain a huge lead

The only way to really kill the hellbats is opening roaches though, which balances out the self inflicted damage to economy for both players unless the zerg is going for a big roach attack anyway

No, macro builds can include a ~6'40 bane nest out of safety. soO played like that vs Flash in GSL.

And banelings aren't even cost effective against hellbats. You need an overwhelming amount of them. I suppose it is preferable to dying though
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 16 2014 21:21 GMT
#783
just in time for wcs na
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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 16 2014 21:21 GMT
#784
On September 17 2014 06:20 DJHelium wrote:
Miniraser must've cancelled his banelings, right?

Nah, just started morphing too late. Granted, first couple of banes were morphing for like 40 seconds straight. Something is fishy here.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-16 21:22:13
September 16 2014 21:21 GMT
#785
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 2?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (2)
 
29%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
 
43%

★★★- Good game (1)
 
14%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
 
14%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

7 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 2?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season


Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 3?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (2)
 
33%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
 
17%

★★★- Good game (1)
 
17%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
 
33%

6 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 3?

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(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season


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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 16 2014 21:21 GMT
#786
On September 17 2014 06:21 StarVe wrote:
2ez4HappyZ


0/10
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
September 16 2014 21:21 GMT
#787
On September 17 2014 06:20 DJHelium wrote:
Miniraser must've cancelled his banelings, right?

I don't understand why Zerg players morph their banelings RIGHT IN FRONT of Terran's army. ALWAYS.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
September 16 2014 21:22 GMT
#788
Teeeeeeerrrrraaaaaaaaannnnnnn
Neosteel Enthusiast
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
September 16 2014 21:22 GMT
#789
congrats happy. Somehow alot of TvZs lately end because the Zerg isn't ready in time.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
September 16 2014 21:22 GMT
#790
On September 17 2014 06:21 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 06:20 boxerfred wrote:
On September 17 2014 06:18 sAsImre wrote:
On September 17 2014 06:17 boxerfred wrote:
On September 17 2014 06:15 TheDwf wrote:
On September 17 2014 06:14 Yorkie wrote:
On September 17 2014 06:12 TheDwf wrote:
On September 17 2014 06:10 Zenbrez wrote:
I don't know why more terrans don't do hellbat pushes. The amount of zergs I "accidentally" kill with the push is stupid, or minimally, do huge damage. While I understand I don't play people of the same caliber, the standard zerg opening does not do well against it at all. It hits the exact same time the 6 hellions hit, except they're just suddenly stupid strong against very little units, or lings.. which are dead weight.

Thing is, Zergs sometimes remember that scouting is not forbidden.

You mean they sometimes get lucky. Normal scouting only reveals a standard reactor hellion build...

Yeah, when you sacrifice an Overlord into 4 Marines after standing 2 minutes in their sight, probably.

Is there a hardcounter to this tactic that is not a build order (eg. 2base muta)? Because if not, it should be a reliable early midgame push that has a huge potential to put Terran in a lead.


defensive roaches put you ahead. like way ahead.

Why? Can't teran just go for 1-2 tanks while pumping out a 3rd or a double ebay? I don't get how 5-10 roaches put you way behind, especially since they are slow and can't counter drop play.


well you just take 0 damage, get your 4th and creep and drones since the T can't go out on the map. And the 2-2 timing is coming so much later that it won't even threaten the Z 4th.

Nah you can't get a 4th that fast if you don't kill the hellbats. Drop play will kill you.
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
September 16 2014 21:22 GMT
#791
On September 17 2014 06:21 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 06:21 StarVe wrote:
2ez4HappyZ


0/10

ouch
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
September 16 2014 21:22 GMT
#792
2/2 liquibets btw
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 16 2014 21:22 GMT
#793
On September 17 2014 06:21 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 06:20 DJHelium wrote:
Miniraser must've cancelled his banelings, right?

I don't understand why Zerg players morph their banelings RIGHT IN FRONT of Terran's army. ALWAYS.

They count on show-off stutter step into morphed banes obviously.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-16 21:23:27
September 16 2014 21:22 GMT
#794
On September 17 2014 06:21 stuchiu wrote:
just in time for wcs na

cannot sustain passion for 40 more minutes, must resist desRow baiting me on event calendar with Rage Drama

On September 17 2014 06:21 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 06:21 StarVe wrote:
2ez4HappyZ


0/10

that's the grade I'd give miniraiser in the final match
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
September 16 2014 21:22 GMT
#795
2 foreign terrans in RO8. This is madness
Neosteel Enthusiast
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28524 Posts
September 16 2014 21:22 GMT
#796
On September 17 2014 06:21 stuchiu wrote:
just in time for wcs na

*AM stuchiu!
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Neazbo
Profile Joined May 2013
United Kingdom698 Posts
September 16 2014 21:23 GMT
#797
damn happy lost weight.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 16 2014 21:23 GMT
#798
The happy bandwagon is so much better than the trainwreck that was Lucifron 2013.
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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 16 2014 21:23 GMT
#799
On September 17 2014 06:22 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
2 foreign terrans in RO8. This is madness

Well, we had that once, no? WCS 2013 S1 that is :D
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28524 Posts
September 16 2014 21:23 GMT
#800
On September 17 2014 06:22 boxerfred wrote:
2/2 liquibets btw

0/2
I Protoss winner, could it be?
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