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Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
September 16 2014 21:23 GMT
#801
Houdini Terran - gets put into positions he should never make it out of, and escapes to the next round.

Not bad. I like it. 6.5/10 nickname.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 16 2014 21:23 GMT
#802
On September 17 2014 06:22 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 06:21 stuchiu wrote:
just in time for wcs na

*AM stuchiu!


I keep making this mistake cause I always liked the pun WCS No Americans :[
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mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
September 16 2014 21:23 GMT
#803
Happy loses to Mini

then later beats him in the 2nd match to advance

just like korean

Happy = Korean confirmed?
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
September 16 2014 21:24 GMT
#804
On September 17 2014 06:17 boxerfred wrote:
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On September 17 2014 06:15 TheDwf wrote:
On September 17 2014 06:14 Yorkie wrote:
On September 17 2014 06:12 TheDwf wrote:
On September 17 2014 06:10 Zenbrez wrote:
I don't know why more terrans don't do hellbat pushes. The amount of zergs I "accidentally" kill with the push is stupid, or minimally, do huge damage. While I understand I don't play people of the same caliber, the standard zerg opening does not do well against it at all. It hits the exact same time the 6 hellions hit, except they're just suddenly stupid strong against very little units, or lings.. which are dead weight.

Thing is, Zergs sometimes remember that scouting is not forbidden.

You mean they sometimes get lucky. Normal scouting only reveals a standard reactor hellion build...

Yeah, when you sacrifice an Overlord into 4 Marines after standing 2 minutes in their sight, probably.

Is there a hardcounter to this tactic that is not a build order (eg. 2base muta)? Because if not, it should be a reliable early midgame push that has a huge potential to put Terran in a lead.

One Spine + lings/Queens (6+) with energy saved for Transfuses or defensive Roaches or defensive banes.

On September 17 2014 06:18 Yorkie wrote:
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On September 17 2014 06:15 TheDwf wrote:
On September 17 2014 06:14 Yorkie wrote:
On September 17 2014 06:12 TheDwf wrote:
On September 17 2014 06:10 Zenbrez wrote:
I don't know why more terrans don't do hellbat pushes. The amount of zergs I "accidentally" kill with the push is stupid, or minimally, do huge damage. While I understand I don't play people of the same caliber, the standard zerg opening does not do well against it at all. It hits the exact same time the 6 hellions hit, except they're just suddenly stupid strong against very little units, or lings.. which are dead weight.

Thing is, Zergs sometimes remember that scouting is not forbidden.

You mean they sometimes get lucky. Normal scouting only reveals a standard reactor hellion build...

Yeah, when you sacrifice an Overlord into 4 Marines after standing 2 minutes in their sight, probably.

Should've expected this kind of response. One game != every game. When one building spells the difference between standard macro play and a big hellbat attack it is very hard to scout. Not to mention if you're going to go roaches reactively you have to spot the armory in enough time to build the warren and complete roaches before the attack hits, which is a small window

You don't need to scout the Armory to hold the push.

On September 17 2014 06:19 Zenbrez wrote:
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On September 17 2014 06:18 TheDwf wrote:
On September 17 2014 06:16 Yorkie wrote:
On September 17 2014 06:15 Paljas wrote:
On September 17 2014 06:12 Zenbrez wrote:
On September 17 2014 06:11 Paljas wrote:
On September 17 2014 06:10 Zenbrez wrote:
I don't know why more terrans don't do hellbat pushes. The amount of zergs I "accidentally" kill with the push is stupid, or minimally, do huge damage. While I understand I don't play people of the same caliber, the standard zerg opening does not do well against it at all.

it can be somewhat allinnish

It isn't. It's literally the exact same as the 2 reaper 6 hellion build, except you make the armory instead of the starport, it hits the exact same time. Behind it you make your 3rd CC, rax 2-3 and eng bays. It's a macro build, except instead of hellions, it's hellbats.

losing all your helions for potential drone kills is somewhat allinnish itself. ye, you dont lose the game, but zerg can gain a huge lead

The only way to really kill the hellbats is opening roaches though, which balances out the self inflicted damage to economy for both players unless the zerg is going for a big roach attack anyway

No, macro builds can include a ~6'40 bane nest out of safety. soO played like that vs Flash in GSL.

It can include a bane nest, but it's absolutely not the standard

Why not? When there are new threats, the standard has to adapt.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 16 2014 21:24 GMT
#805
On September 17 2014 06:23 mikumegurine wrote:
Happy loses to Mini

then later beats him in the 2nd match to advance

just like korean

Happy = Korean confirmed?

I mean, if he was less nervous at LANs, we could surely confuse him for one.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-16 21:24:37
September 16 2014 21:24 GMT
#806
On September 17 2014 06:23 Circumstance wrote:
Houdini Terran - gets put into positions he should never make it out of, and escapes to the next round.

Not bad. I like it. 6.5/10 nickname.


I like Undead Terran. He doesn't die just like a zombie. And he played undead as WC3.
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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-16 21:24:44
September 16 2014 21:24 GMT
#807
On September 17 2014 06:23 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 06:22 Penev wrote:
On September 17 2014 06:21 stuchiu wrote:
just in time for wcs na

*AM stuchiu!


I keep making this mistake cause I always liked the pun WCS No Americans :[

Do you work for Pun AM?
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
September 16 2014 21:24 GMT
#808
I knew you had it in you all along Happy. WPWPWPWP!!!
rip passion
Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
September 16 2014 21:24 GMT
#809

LOL oh god poor mini
ForGG. 29/11/2014
Neemi
Profile Joined August 2012
Netherlands656 Posts
September 16 2014 21:24 GMT
#810
On September 17 2014 06:22 lolfail9001 wrote:
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On September 17 2014 06:21 Boucot wrote:
On September 17 2014 06:20 DJHelium wrote:
Miniraser must've cancelled his banelings, right?

I don't understand why Zerg players morph their banelings RIGHT IN FRONT of Terran's army. ALWAYS.

They count on show-off stutter step into morphed banes obviously.


Sometimes in Gold and lower the enemy actually runs back when they see morphed banes out of fear that they're going to explode all over their army quite soon, so could be a reflex.
Cute
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
September 16 2014 21:24 GMT
#811
On September 17 2014 06:23 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 06:22 Penev wrote:
On September 17 2014 06:21 stuchiu wrote:
just in time for wcs na

*AM stuchiu!


I keep making this mistake cause I always liked the pun WCS No Americans :[


WCS Americans Missing.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
September 16 2014 21:24 GMT
#812
I really wish Harstem made it. D:

Now it's time for Scarlett tho!!
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
September 16 2014 21:24 GMT
#813
On September 17 2014 06:23 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 06:22 Penev wrote:
On September 17 2014 06:21 stuchiu wrote:
just in time for wcs na

*AM stuchiu!


I keep making this mistake cause I always liked the pun WCS No Americans :[

That's a 1/10, if I pretend I didn't read it.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
September 16 2014 21:25 GMT
#814
On September 17 2014 06:24 Faefae wrote:
https://twitter.com/ApolloSC2/status/511988824746889217
LOL oh god poor mini

Is Miniraser the European Life?
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 16 2014 21:25 GMT
#815
On September 17 2014 06:24 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 06:23 stuchiu wrote:
On September 17 2014 06:22 Penev wrote:
On September 17 2014 06:21 stuchiu wrote:
just in time for wcs na

*AM stuchiu!


I keep making this mistake cause I always liked the pun WCS No Americans :[

Do you work for Pun AM?


you've been forgiven for the other one.
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AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-16 21:25:29
September 16 2014 21:25 GMT
#816
Damn Mini messed there
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 16 2014 21:25 GMT
#817
On September 17 2014 06:24 Faefae wrote:
https://twitter.com/ApolloSC2/status/511988824746889217
LOL oh god poor mini

Oh boy, that was sad. Mini better have a nice girl waiting outside to make such mistakes :D
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
September 16 2014 21:25 GMT
#818
Fnatic done goofed today
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
September 16 2014 21:25 GMT
#819
#BringBackWCSExtra
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
September 16 2014 21:25 GMT
#820
On September 17 2014 06:23 Penev wrote:
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On September 17 2014 06:22 boxerfred wrote:
2/2 liquibets btw

0/2

out of curiousity, did you vote Sniper on liquibet too?
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