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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
September 16 2014 21:20 GMT
#761
Fnatic D:
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
September 16 2014 21:20 GMT
#762
HAPPY

IS

HAPPY
fOu/Zenith/NEX/WeRRa/SlayerS
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
September 16 2014 21:20 GMT
#763
SOMEONE GIF THOSE FISTS FAST WE'LL NEVER SEE THAT AGAIN UNTIL HE WINS BLIZZCON
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
September 16 2014 21:20 GMT
#764
On September 17 2014 06:20 Lorning wrote:
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 2?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (2)
 
29%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
 
43%

★★★- Good game (1)
 
14%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
 
14%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

7 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 2?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season


Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 3?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (2)
 
33%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
 
17%

★★★- Good game (1)
 
17%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
 
33%

6 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 3?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season


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TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
September 16 2014 21:20 GMT
#765
Happeeaeaeaeaeaeaeaeaeaeaeaeaa
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
September 16 2014 21:20 GMT
#766
HAPPY YEAH
Community News
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BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
September 16 2014 21:20 GMT
#767
Yay, Happy!
props to Miniraser though, really looking forward to his next season
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
September 16 2014 21:20 GMT
#768
Miniraser must've cancelled his banelings, right?
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
September 16 2014 21:21 GMT
#769
Happy's happy!
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
September 16 2014 21:21 GMT
#770
Seriously
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Grizvok
Profile Joined August 2014
United States711 Posts
September 16 2014 21:21 GMT
#771
LOL
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
September 16 2014 21:21 GMT
#772
YES YES YES YES!!! !:D HAHAHAH GJ
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
September 16 2014 21:21 GMT
#773
wp Happy! classic final match reverse.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
September 16 2014 21:21 GMT
#774
Terran 2 - Fnatic 0.

Cool to see Happy actually smiling.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
September 16 2014 21:21 GMT
#775
On September 17 2014 06:19 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 06:17 Zenbrez wrote:
On September 17 2014 06:14 boxerfred wrote:
On September 17 2014 06:12 Zenbrez wrote:
On September 17 2014 06:11 Paljas wrote:
On September 17 2014 06:10 Zenbrez wrote:
I don't know why more terrans don't do hellbat pushes. The amount of zergs I "accidentally" kill with the push is stupid, or minimally, do huge damage. While I understand I don't play people of the same caliber, the standard zerg opening does not do well against it at all.

it can be somewhat allinnish

It isn't. It's literally the exact same as the 2 reaper 6 hellion build, except you make the armory instead of the starport, it hits the exact same time. Behind it you make your 3rd CC, rax 2-3 and eng bays. It's a macro build, except instead of hellions, it's hellbats.

Allin-ish means that if the attack fails, you're way behind. If roaches are out and the push is defended, you are pretty open for a counter attack. Also, while you can still load in and drop, there's no way to push creep back which should allow zerg to safely take a fast fourth. (imo ofc)

But you're not behind. Maybe I'll upload a game sometime and show the timings, there's VERY little difference, except that hellbats are basically guaranteed to do more damage than hellbats. And if the zerg is prepared you back off, like you would with your hellions.

Wait, that hellbat attack is not really a sharp timing but more a "let's hope he hasn't 10 banes and/or 5 roaches". I'm not saying this build is bad. I'm just saying that in case it totally gets shut down, you're way behind. More behind when eg. cloaked banshee play gets shut down hard.

But that's a theoretical assumption, I do the same tvz build every game and sometimes they are prepared, but I'm not behind. I win the vast majority of my games. I'll play some games tonight and post a thread on the strategy forum for people to look at replays and poke my build from there.
Refer to my post.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
September 16 2014 21:21 GMT
#776
On September 17 2014 06:20 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 06:18 sAsImre wrote:
On September 17 2014 06:17 boxerfred wrote:
On September 17 2014 06:15 TheDwf wrote:
On September 17 2014 06:14 Yorkie wrote:
On September 17 2014 06:12 TheDwf wrote:
On September 17 2014 06:10 Zenbrez wrote:
I don't know why more terrans don't do hellbat pushes. The amount of zergs I "accidentally" kill with the push is stupid, or minimally, do huge damage. While I understand I don't play people of the same caliber, the standard zerg opening does not do well against it at all. It hits the exact same time the 6 hellions hit, except they're just suddenly stupid strong against very little units, or lings.. which are dead weight.

Thing is, Zergs sometimes remember that scouting is not forbidden.

You mean they sometimes get lucky. Normal scouting only reveals a standard reactor hellion build...

Yeah, when you sacrifice an Overlord into 4 Marines after standing 2 minutes in their sight, probably.

Is there a hardcounter to this tactic that is not a build order (eg. 2base muta)? Because if not, it should be a reliable early midgame push that has a huge potential to put Terran in a lead.


defensive roaches put you ahead. like way ahead.

Why? Can't teran just go for 1-2 tanks while pumping out a 3rd or a double ebay? I don't get how 5-10 roaches put you way behind, especially since they are slow and can't counter drop play.


well you just take 0 damage, get your 4th and creep and drones since the T can't go out on the map. And the 2-2 timing is coming so much later that it won't even threaten the Z 4th.
Zest fanboy.
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
September 16 2014 21:21 GMT
#777
poor mini
TL+ Member
putputlaw
Profile Joined March 2014
Germany8 Posts
September 16 2014 21:21 GMT
#778
Dat Happy smile... CG has come far these days ;D
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
September 16 2014 21:21 GMT
#779
Happy so happy, a pleasure to see.
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
September 16 2014 21:21 GMT
#780
That game should showcase that it's impossible to scout it if the terran doesn't mess up.
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