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Poll: Head: Who do you think will win?Team Acer (27) 90% Axiom eSports (3) 10% 30 total votes Your vote: Head: Who do you think will win? (Vote): Team Acer
(Vote): Axiom eSports
Poll: Heart: Who do you want to win?Team Acer (21) 64% Axiom eSports (12) 36% 33 total votes Your vote: Heart: Who do you want to win? (Vote): Team Acer
(Vote): Axiom eSports
Poll: Head: Who do you think will win?Team Liquid (26) 84% mousesports (5) 16% 31 total votes Your vote: Head: Who do you think will win? (Vote): Team Liquid
(Vote): mousesports
Poll: Heart: Who do you want to win?Team Liquid (22) 56% mousesports (17) 44% 39 total votes Your vote: Heart: Who do you want to win? (Vote): Team Liquid
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+ Show Spoiler [Loser's Match] +Poll: Head: Who do you think will win?Axiom eSports (12) 86% mousesports (2) 14% 14 total votes Your vote: Head: Who do you think will win? (Vote): Axiom eSports
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Poll: Heart: Who do you want to win?Axiom eSports (8) 57% mousesports (6) 43% 14 total votes Your vote: Heart: Who do you want to win? (Vote): Axiom eSports
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did all the teams bring their full strength roster?
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On July 08 2014 04:27 Shellshock wrote:
did all the teams bring their full strength roster?
The playoffs are online, so I suppose so.
Only the Grand Final (with two teams) go to Krefeld.
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Guess I have to watch it from VODs..I start working when they go live :/
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Man, i would have liked this to be on the weekend. But the finals will be on a sunday and offline, which should be fine.
Go Mouz!
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As much as I'd like to see Axiom beat Acer, history hasn't been kind. But they do make for some entertaining games. Go Axiom!
TL's got serious star power, and Mouz's lineup looks solid, yet not quite on level. If Taeja or HerO gets steam, TL has it in the bag.
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Acer will take it ezpz as usual  .
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Oh shit forgot about this D: Go TL / Acer
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Let's go Acer!!!
Edit: I have a feeling Heart will two or three games so it will probably be like 5-4 to Acer.
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Come on Axiom!
Good history between these two teams, although it is kinda one sided in favour of Acer. Season 1 Acer won twice, 5-3 and 5-4. Axiom did beat them last season, but then narrowly lost 5-4 in the play-offs after a really close ace-match between Ryung and Scarlett before being stomped 5-1 in the grand final. This year Axiom of course were narrowly beaten 5-4 again, with INnoVation picking up three kills when Acer were 4-2 down.
I have complete faith that Axiom can do it though, three of these defeats have been really close matches that went down to the ace match. It's only ever been a one-sided match once.
AXIOM FIGHTING!
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Acer not taking any shit today, starting directly with the big guns
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first time I see the supply block and idle worker times :D
that's fun
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United States13143 Posts
how the hell did innovation kill that colossus with marines
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are mouz starting 0-1 down or something since they don't have enough players?
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The Machine has been unleashed to lay waste to the world.
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France7248 Posts
On July 09 2014 19:21 nkr wrote:
are mouz starting 0-1 down or something since they don't have enough players?
they recruited 2 players you know :D
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Forgot all about this season to be honest! glad I was reminded as the playoffs started up!
Innos stats are INSANE - 28-4
including:
3 x All Kills
1 x 4 Kills
2 x 3 Kills
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Oh, Hellbats and a second fact for Blue Flame.
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On July 09 2014 19:22 Yhamm wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 19:21 nkr wrote:
are mouz starting 0-1 down or something since they don't have enough players? they recruited 2 players you know :D
Yeah I heard but the rosters are locked according to the rules that the league likes to follow quite harshly, which is why I was curious
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This clan war will be a bigger stomp than Germany vs Brazil
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Ah, yes, of course they were. Makes sense! Keep up the good work ATC admins
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On July 09 2014 19:23 Nerchio wrote:
This clan war will be a bigger stomp than Germany vs Brazil
that would be hard
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On July 09 2014 19:24 Elyvilon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 19:23 Nerchio wrote:
This clan war will be a bigger stomp than Germany vs Brazil that would be hard
It already started, Crank didn't even get a chance to leave his base
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On July 09 2014 19:23 Nerchio wrote:
This clan war will be a bigger stomp than Germany vs Brazil
If you don't play it may be. 
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On July 09 2014 19:25 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 19:24 Elyvilon wrote:On July 09 2014 19:23 Nerchio wrote:
This clan war will be a bigger stomp than Germany vs Brazil that would be hard It already started, Crank didn't even get a chance to leave his base
Well you can only win 5-0, Germany won 7-1, so sorry it cant
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Without surprise, they send the Terran sniper.
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looking at statistics, and innovation is currently 28-4 in ATC O.o
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On July 09 2014 19:25 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 19:24 Elyvilon wrote:On July 09 2014 19:23 Nerchio wrote:
This clan war will be a bigger stomp than Germany vs Brazil that would be hard It already started, Crank didn't even get a chance to leave his base
What I mean is, even if you guys win 5-0 it probably wouldn't be as big a stomp as Germany vs Brazil.
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only finals are held offline? cutting sc2 budget, eh? X_x
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On July 09 2014 19:27 stevorino wrote:
only finals are held offline? cutting sc2 budget, eh? X_x
yes only finals, but that will be a bo3
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Ha Khaldor rocking that Germany shirt!
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INnoVation all kill incomming guys.
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On July 09 2014 19:27 Elyvilon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 19:25 Nerchio wrote:On July 09 2014 19:24 Elyvilon wrote:On July 09 2014 19:23 Nerchio wrote:
This clan war will be a bigger stomp than Germany vs Brazil that would be hard It already started, Crank didn't even get a chance to leave his base What I mean is, even if you guys win 5-0 it probably wouldn't be as big a stomp as Germany vs Brazil.
But they have 11 players + a lot of subs so it wouldn't even be a 0,5 goal per player.
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On July 09 2014 19:29 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 19:27 Elyvilon wrote:On July 09 2014 19:25 Nerchio wrote:On July 09 2014 19:24 Elyvilon wrote:On July 09 2014 19:23 Nerchio wrote:
This clan war will be a bigger stomp than Germany vs Brazil that would be hard It already started, Crank didn't even get a chance to leave his base What I mean is, even if you guys win 5-0 it probably wouldn't be as big a stomp as Germany vs Brazil. But they have 11 players + a lot of subs so it wouldn't even be a 0,5 goal per player.
Germany scored their first 5 goals in 30 minutes and coasted to victory from there, I suspect that if they tried 100% the entire time it would have been an even bigger rout.
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Clever metagaming from Heart.
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Heart needs to pull a Bomber here.
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Not a good start. 
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What happened to the Marines/Tanks push? It seemed Heart was badly slaughtered there.
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On July 09 2014 19:38 TheDwf wrote:
What happened to the Marines/Tanks push? It seemed Heart was badly slaughtered there.
Yeah, INnoVation pulled SCVs into them before Heart was in siege mode. He completely shut it down.
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Innovation immediately pulled SCVs and it felt like Heart got caught flat-footed and wasn't expecting that.
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C'mon Impact, really need you to take INnoVation out here.
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impact this is not zvp =/
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On July 09 2014 19:50 Undead1993 wrote:
impact this is not zvp =/
His game plan was OK.
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United States13143 Posts
Is marine/tank a thing in TvZ again? I haven't watched much SC2 in a while.
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Ouch, that bad movement costed Impact like 15 banes or so
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On July 09 2014 19:53 TheDwf wrote:His game plan was OK.
i think inno could have done more in the midgame the lingspeed was sooooooooooooo late
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INnoVation is such a team league beast.
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On July 09 2014 19:53 Elyvilon wrote:
Is marine/tank a thing in TvZ again? I haven't watched much SC2 in a while.
He used tanks because impact openeded roaches
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On July 09 2014 19:55 Crot4le wrote:INnoVation is such a team league beast.
INnoVation is such a team league beast.
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On July 09 2014 19:53 Elyvilon wrote:
Is marine/tank a thing in TvZ again? I haven't watched much SC2 in a while.
Nope, he only used it because Impact opened 1/1 Speedroaches into lings/banes/mutas.
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On July 09 2014 19:55 Nerchio wrote:INnoVation is such a team league beast.
Must be nice to be carried by a good player eh Nerchio?
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On July 09 2014 19:55 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 19:53 Elyvilon wrote:
Is marine/tank a thing in TvZ again? I haven't watched much SC2 in a while. He used tanks because impact openeded roaches
Ah, makes sense. Thanks!
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Belgica34432 Posts
Oh look who's all-killing again
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On July 09 2014 19:56 Crot4le wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 19:55 Nerchio wrote:On July 09 2014 19:55 Crot4le wrote:INnoVation is such a team league beast. INnoVation is such a team league beast. Must be nice to be carried by a good player eh Nerchio?
eh nerchio would probably do the same as innovation vs ax. Innovation was a bit of a overkill, guy is a monster.
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On July 09 2014 20:00 duckk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 19:56 Crot4le wrote:On July 09 2014 19:55 Nerchio wrote:On July 09 2014 19:55 Crot4le wrote:INnoVation is such a team league beast. INnoVation is such a team league beast. Must be nice to be carried by a good player eh Nerchio? eh nerchio would probably do the same as innovation vs ax. Innovation was a bit of a overkill, guy is a monster.
Lol no way would Nerchio be able to take down three Axiom players in a row....twice. Every single player on Axiom is better than Nerchio.
INnoVation is another level though.
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Belgica34432 Posts
On July 09 2014 20:01 Crot4le wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 20:00 duckk wrote:On July 09 2014 19:56 Crot4le wrote:On July 09 2014 19:55 Nerchio wrote:On July 09 2014 19:55 Crot4le wrote:INnoVation is such a team league beast. INnoVation is such a team league beast. Must be nice to be carried by a good player eh Nerchio? eh nerchio would probably do the same as innovation vs ax. Innovation was a bit of a overkill, guy is a monster. Lol no way would Nerchio be able to take down three Axiom players in a row....twice. Every single player on Axiom is better than Nerchio.
ROFL
NerchiGod > Anyone on Axiom x10
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Nice surround with the SCVs. That's 4-0.
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Why would you build your proxy gate that far if you play it all-in?
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On July 09 2014 20:02 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 20:01 Crot4le wrote:On July 09 2014 20:00 duckk wrote:On July 09 2014 19:56 Crot4le wrote:On July 09 2014 19:55 Nerchio wrote:On July 09 2014 19:55 Crot4le wrote:INnoVation is such a team league beast. INnoVation is such a team league beast. Must be nice to be carried by a good player eh Nerchio? eh nerchio would probably do the same as innovation vs ax. Innovation was a bit of a overkill, guy is a monster. Lol no way would Nerchio be able to take down three Axiom players in a row....twice. Every single player on Axiom is better than Nerchio. ROFL NerchiGod > Anyone on Axiom x10
Nerchio has done abysmally this season of ATC, I hasten to point that out.
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I think Inno has an appointment.
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Well this isn't pretty.
That's 18 wins in a row for INnoVation by the way. Crazy stuff.
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Innovation is going full Germany over Axiom right now.
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On July 09 2014 20:02 Crot4le wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 20:02 Lorning wrote:On July 09 2014 20:01 Crot4le wrote:On July 09 2014 20:00 duckk wrote:On July 09 2014 19:56 Crot4le wrote:On July 09 2014 19:55 Nerchio wrote:On July 09 2014 19:55 Crot4le wrote:INnoVation is such a team league beast. INnoVation is such a team league beast. Must be nice to be carried by a good player eh Nerchio? eh nerchio would probably do the same as innovation vs ax. Innovation was a bit of a overkill, guy is a monster. Lol no way would Nerchio be able to take down three Axiom players in a row....twice. Every single player on Axiom is better than Nerchio. ROFL NerchiGod > Anyone on Axiom x10 Nerchio has done abysmally this season of ATC, I hasten to point that out.
We don't take kindly to enemies of King Artur here.
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On July 09 2014 20:02 TheDwf wrote:
Why would you build your proxy gate that far if you play it all-in?
Mind games.
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
Best team league player of sc2 just doing his thing np
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On July 09 2014 20:01 Crot4le wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 20:00 duckk wrote:On July 09 2014 19:56 Crot4le wrote:On July 09 2014 19:55 Nerchio wrote:On July 09 2014 19:55 Crot4le wrote:INnoVation is such a team league beast. INnoVation is such a team league beast. Must be nice to be carried by a good player eh Nerchio? eh nerchio would probably do the same as innovation vs ax. Innovation was a bit of a overkill, guy is a monster. Lol no way would Nerchio be able to take down three Axiom players in a row....twice. Every single player on Axiom is better than Nerchio. INnoVation is another level though.
eh I beat alicia and crank everytime and I lose to nerchio pretty badly. Ryung is very good and heart/impact are ok I guess, but nerchio at the very least would be capable of taking 1-3 maps.
Innovation's scouting, responses, and macro are extremely on point wow.
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On July 09 2014 20:10 D-light wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 20:02 TheDwf wrote:
Why would you build your proxy gate that far if you play it all-in? Mind games.
More like shooting yourself in the foot.
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On July 09 2014 20:02 Crot4le wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 20:02 Lorning wrote:On July 09 2014 20:01 Crot4le wrote:On July 09 2014 20:00 duckk wrote:On July 09 2014 19:56 Crot4le wrote:On July 09 2014 19:55 Nerchio wrote:On July 09 2014 19:55 Crot4le wrote:INnoVation is such a team league beast. INnoVation is such a team league beast. Must be nice to be carried by a good player eh Nerchio? eh nerchio would probably do the same as innovation vs ax. Innovation was a bit of a overkill, guy is a monster. Lol no way would Nerchio be able to take down three Axiom players in a row....twice. Every single player on Axiom is better than Nerchio. ROFL NerchiGod > Anyone on Axiom x10 Nerchio has done abysmally this season of ATC, I hasten to point that out.
Only because Innovation asked us to do bad so he can get more kills.
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
Lee Shin Hyung best terran
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On July 09 2014 20:11 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 20:02 Crot4le wrote:On July 09 2014 20:02 Lorning wrote:On July 09 2014 20:01 Crot4le wrote:On July 09 2014 20:00 duckk wrote:On July 09 2014 19:56 Crot4le wrote:On July 09 2014 19:55 Nerchio wrote:On July 09 2014 19:55 Crot4le wrote:INnoVation is such a team league beast. INnoVation is such a team league beast. Must be nice to be carried by a good player eh Nerchio? eh nerchio would probably do the same as innovation vs ax. Innovation was a bit of a overkill, guy is a monster. Lol no way would Nerchio be able to take down three Axiom players in a row....twice. Every single player on Axiom is better than Nerchio. ROFL NerchiGod > Anyone on Axiom x10 Nerchio has done abysmally this season of ATC, I hasten to point that out. Only because Innovation asked us to do bad so he can get more kills.
Ahahah the robot needs to kill!
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On July 09 2014 20:10 duckk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 20:01 Crot4le wrote:On July 09 2014 20:00 duckk wrote:On July 09 2014 19:56 Crot4le wrote:On July 09 2014 19:55 Nerchio wrote:On July 09 2014 19:55 Crot4le wrote:INnoVation is such a team league beast. INnoVation is such a team league beast. Must be nice to be carried by a good player eh Nerchio? eh nerchio would probably do the same as innovation vs ax. Innovation was a bit of a overkill, guy is a monster. Lol no way would Nerchio be able to take down three Axiom players in a row....twice. Every single player on Axiom is better than Nerchio. INnoVation is another level though. eh I beat alicia and crank everytime and I lose to nerchio pretty badly. Ryung is very good and heart/impact are ok I guess, but nerchio at the very least would be capable of taking 1-3 maps. Innovation's scouting, responses, and macro are extremely on point wow.
Nerchio's record against Axiom in the ATC: Won 2 Lost 3.
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oooh that was nice micro from Ryung.
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On July 09 2014 20:13 GumBa wrote:
Lee Shin Hyung best terran
He's alive!
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Is ATC is sort of a hidden contest between Innovation and Taeja to see who can robot-all-kill the most?
Hyped for the shock of the Terrans robots. make this happen.
Inno all kill Axiom, Taeja all kill mousesport and then first game of final Taeja vs Inno
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that banshee... so many kills
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15-kill Banshee. Deserved her repair.
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On July 09 2014 20:15 Crot4le wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 20:10 duckk wrote:On July 09 2014 20:01 Crot4le wrote:On July 09 2014 20:00 duckk wrote:On July 09 2014 19:56 Crot4le wrote:On July 09 2014 19:55 Nerchio wrote:On July 09 2014 19:55 Crot4le wrote:INnoVation is such a team league beast. INnoVation is such a team league beast. Must be nice to be carried by a good player eh Nerchio? eh nerchio would probably do the same as innovation vs ax. Innovation was a bit of a overkill, guy is a monster. Lol no way would Nerchio be able to take down three Axiom players in a row....twice. Every single player on Axiom is better than Nerchio. INnoVation is another level though. eh I beat alicia and crank everytime and I lose to nerchio pretty badly. Ryung is very good and heart/impact are ok I guess, but nerchio at the very least would be capable of taking 1-3 maps. Innovation's scouting, responses, and macro are extremely on point wow. Nerchio's record against Axiom in the ATC: Won 2 Lost 3.
didnt you hear nerchio? Innovation asked him to do poorly so he can win more.
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30 supply lead, after Banshee made 25 kills.
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Lol punching bag for Innovation...
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BOX all-kill format turning a 45:55 scenario into a 5-0 stomp.
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Not surprised by Innovation's AK... He's easily top 2 Terran
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GG, ATC is basically just a salary bonus for team Acer  .
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So i guess if Innoivation keeps stomping every team this hard the league format will be PL format next time
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Belgica34432 Posts
I hope Nerchio comes out first against Liquid/Mouz, so he can all kill too, and prove the haters wrong
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I wonder if INnoVation will just 10-0 his next two games and finish it off in style at 29-0.....
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Congratulations to INnoVation and Acer. I just hope Axiom can get through the losers' bracket.
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On July 09 2014 20:23 klup wrote:
Now it's Taeja turn ! :D
Taeja is 9-6 and rank 20 in this TL, its almost polar opposite to the last seasons
This is Innos season for sure hahah.
I've always wanted to make/see a highlight video of Innovation to "Knife Party - EDM Death Machine"
Simply for the fact it builds up the hype with robot sounds, then quotes "say hello to the robot" before dropping some sick EDM beats.
It would be perfect for Inno.
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Lol went for some food when inno vs crack happend. Came back and saw inno all killed Axoim. WTF^^
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On July 09 2014 20:24 Lorning wrote:
I hope Nerchio comes out first against Liquid/Mouz, so he can all kill too, and prove the haters wrong
He's on a record of W2 L5 this season so would be a silly idea to send out one of your weakest players out. Scarlett, MMA and INnoVation are Acer's best players, Nerchio and Bly are the back-up. You don't send your back-up out first.
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On July 09 2014 20:25 Crot4le wrote:
I wonder if INnoVation will just 10-0 his next two games and finish it off in style at 29-0.....
He's already 33-4?
Or do you mean hes on a 19 win streak atm?
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On July 09 2014 20:26 Crot4le wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 20:24 Lorning wrote:
I hope Nerchio comes out first against Liquid/Mouz, so he can all kill too, and prove the haters wrong He's on a record of W2 L5 this season so would be a silly idea to send out one of your weakest players out. Scarlett, MMA and INnoVation are Acer's best players, Nerchio and Bly are the back-up. You don't send your back-up out first.
Coach Kang disagrees
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On July 09 2014 20:26 liberate71 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 20:25 Crot4le wrote:
I wonder if INnoVation will just 10-0 his next two games and finish it off in style at 29-0..... He's already 33-4? Or do you mean hes on a 19 win streak atm?
Yeah the latter, I'm talking about the 19 winstreak.
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god, Bogus has got to be the best sc2 team league player of all time.
Super ace for STX in SPL
Top ranked player of GSTL
nearly invincible in ATC
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On July 09 2014 20:26 Lorning wrote:
1.5 hour break D:
Yeah too bad, but they will do some sub games inbetween.
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On July 09 2014 20:26 Crot4le wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 20:24 Lorning wrote:
I hope Nerchio comes out first against Liquid/Mouz, so he can all kill too, and prove the haters wrong He's on a record of W2 L5 this season so would be a silly idea to send out one of your weakest players out. Scarlett, MMA and INnoVation are Acer's best players, Nerchio and Bly are the back-up. You don't send your back-up out first.
But I'm 100% sure he's gonna all kill at least once in these play offs. He has the skill
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Winners and losers finals are tomorrow, right?
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On July 09 2014 20:27 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
god, Bogus has got to be the best sc2 team league player of all time.
Super ace for STX in SPL
Top ranked player of GSTL
nearly invincible in ATC
It's a shame the real $$$ comes from the individual leagues. Still, incredibly to see his performance!
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On July 09 2014 20:27 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
god, Bogus has got to be the best sc2 team league player of all time.
Super ace for STX in SPL
Top ranked player of GSTL
nearly invincible in ATC
Yeah Innovation is stupid good in team leagues. He has 9 career all kills also. Gogo axiom make it through losers bracket and get revenge.
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
INno is teamleague bonjwa
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On July 09 2014 20:28 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 20:26 Crot4le wrote:On July 09 2014 20:24 Lorning wrote:
I hope Nerchio comes out first against Liquid/Mouz, so he can all kill too, and prove the haters wrong He's on a record of W2 L5 this season so would be a silly idea to send out one of your weakest players out. Scarlett, MMA and INnoVation are Acer's best players, Nerchio and Bly are the back-up. You don't send your back-up out first. But I'm 100% sure he's gonna all kill at least once in these play offs. He has the skill
No, he's not a bad player by any stretch of the imagination. But no way is he good enough to all-kill teams like Axiom, Team Liquid and mousesports. I mean, maybe mouz if the moons aligned on a really good day or some bollocks like that, but really for Nerchio picking up a couple of wins would be a massive triumph.
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Dammit Inno you had to win before I woke up ;;
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On July 09 2014 20:16 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:He's alive!
I am the silent guardian at the moment a watcher in the wings
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On July 09 2014 20:59 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 20:16 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On July 09 2014 20:13 GumBa wrote:
Lee Shin Hyung best terran He's alive! I am the silent guardian at the moment a watcher in the wings
Threads are so silent without you:/
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Cool Inno is in good shape gives me hope for Code A.
edit : oops got my stats wrong
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On July 09 2014 21:06 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 20:59 GumBa wrote:On July 09 2014 20:16 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On July 09 2014 20:13 GumBa wrote:
Lee Shin Hyung best terran He's alive! I am the silent guardian at the moment a watcher in the wings Threads are so silent without you:/
I will return. I promise you that Lorning
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Belgica34432 Posts
On July 09 2014 21:15 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 21:06 Lorning wrote:On July 09 2014 20:59 GumBa wrote:On July 09 2014 20:16 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On July 09 2014 20:13 GumBa wrote:
Lee Shin Hyung best terran He's alive! I am the silent guardian at the moment a watcher in the wings Threads are so silent without you:/ I will return. I promise you that Lorning
INno plays Code A on the 16th. I expect you
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damnit woke up half past 1 and missed the all-kill.
were any games even?
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On July 09 2014 21:29 Ej_ wrote:
damnit woke up half past 1 and missed the all-kill.
were any games even?
not really, no
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On July 09 2014 21:29 Ej_ wrote:
damnit woke up half past 1 and missed the all-kill.
were any games even?
Nope, all fairly to completely one-sided.
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That's not a nice birthday present for TB, INnoVation.
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taeja vs sjaak after that for close game pls
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On July 09 2014 22:11 Rain.100 wrote:
taeja vs sjaak after that for close game pls
can't be a closer match than their DH series
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But he never played against the great Sjaak !
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YES! Mouzbane down!
Go Sjaak!
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Yeah... wth is Sjaak really good or is it just because PvP ? O_O
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On July 09 2014 22:22 Faefae wrote:
Yeah... wth is Sjaak really good or is it just because PvP ? O_O
He defeated Hyun and Golden at the latest DH, only losing to Taeja.
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On July 09 2014 22:22 Faefae wrote:
Yeah... wth is Sjaak really good or is it just because PvP ? O_O
umm sjaak has gotten a lot better, hero was probably the favorite in that match though.
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On July 09 2014 22:22 Faefae wrote:
Yeah... wth is Sjaak really good or is it just because PvP ? O_O
DT vs no detection, hard not to win. He didn't do anything wrong though!
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On July 09 2014 22:22 Faefae wrote:
Yeah... wth is Sjaak really good or is it just because PvP ? O_O
He has come a lot from when I first started noticing him in the SC2Improve Summer League just over a year ago. He had a really good break-out tournament at Dreamhack Summer where he beat Golden, HuK and HyuN.
Looks like he is going from strength to strength.
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On July 09 2014 22:23 DJHelium wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 22:22 Faefae wrote:
Yeah... wth is Sjaak really good or is it just because PvP ? O_O DT vs no detection, hard not to win. He didn't do anything wrong though!
Yeah that what i though, but as Xoronius pointed out, he defeated other good oponents!
I guess we just have to wait and see what'll he do with mouz!
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I want to see him in an actual macro game.
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How was the first game? Can someone tell? Thx
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On July 09 2014 22:26 SChlafmann wrote:How was the first game? Can someone tell? Thx
Phonix opening from HerO vs DT expo from Sjaak, Sjaak did some damage, HerO had a very late expo and died to a follow-up Stalker-push.
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Alright, Snute is up next
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Does Khaldor's stream has low fps or something? Feels like it stutters a lot.
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On July 09 2014 22:32 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Alright, Snute is up next
Mark Munoz does looks like Gretorp.
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Don´t worry Snute. Soon TW will only last 15 sec xD
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Tidus Mino, you are a genius! SJAAAAAAK!
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Sjaak doing much better than I thought.
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Sjaak already looking like a fantastic signing and he's only played twice.
I think TL should just send out TaeJa now before mouz build up momentum.
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player who wasnt supposed to be allowed to play is now taking out liquid, there is no god 
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Get out of the water, Liquid! D:
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Wow, Sjaak continues to impress
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I think they should send Bunny now. Sjaak should not be too hard for him
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Hah, i was pissed that hero lost but now this is getting funny
taeja is 0:5 in the last 5 maps against toss :O:O
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Taeja wants his revenge vs protoss !
edit : predict Taeja to loose and whine about balance
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On July 09 2014 22:48 klup wrote:Taeja wants his revenge vs protoss ! edit : predict Taeja to loose and whine about balance
Traumatized from Pigbaby. Cannot play :D
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It'd be crazy if Mouz advanced to final! I though it was the weakest team of the top 6 by far without Vortix
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On July 09 2014 22:48 klup wrote:Taeja wants his revenge vs protoss ! edit : predict Taeja to loose and whine about balance
I doubt Taeja would be loose even when he knows a standard game by himself will be enough.
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TaeJa turns this into 5-2 I think
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Snute is 1-4 against Protoss this season.
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Sjaak all kill TL and become most successful on the fly recrutment of SC2 history
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TaeJa beat Sjaak 2-0 at Dreamhack.
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On July 09 2014 22:58 Crot4le wrote:
TaeJa beat Sjaak 2-0 at Dreamhack.
Edit: ninja edit :p
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Starbuck to out funk Taeja.
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Well that's wasn't even close in the end.
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On July 09 2014 22:51 The_Templar wrote:
TaeJa turns this into 5-2 I think
Yeah it wouldn't surprise me.
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I hope Taeja does the Maru 2rax
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Starbuck with the snipe build, will it work?
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Could had killed the bunker and the marines inside if he wanted to.
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Starbuck did this exact same build against Ryung in their 4-5 defeat earlier this season, it was successful too.
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That could have been a lot worse for either side.
I think TaeJa's a bit ahead though
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Lose medivac to spore crawler --> Marines get surrounded --> Widow mine fires and kills all the marines :\
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On July 09 2014 23:37 The_Templar wrote:
Lose medivac to spore crawler --> Marines get surrounded --> Widow mine fires and kills all the marines :\
Welcome to the Terran army, where if the enemy doesn't kill you, friendly fire will!
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Completely outclassed. Too bad he couldn't capitalize his BO advantadge.
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What's the point of doing that roach attack if you're not ahead after killing 25 SCVs for 4 roaches?
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How he lose that after killed 25scv with 6 roaches?
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Lol TaeJa shut Starbuck down really well.
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Sigh, all-kill formats really are terrible
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Sooo, HasuObs or Majestic? I reckon the former will be sent out.
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On July 09 2014 23:40 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Sigh, all-kill formats really are terrible
Indeed.
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On July 09 2014 23:40 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Sigh, all-kill formats really are terrible
get 1 superstar. win the tournament. gg. (just like individual tournaments zzz)
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ah, some whine on the format, like every week on ATC
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On July 09 2014 23:41 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 23:40 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Sigh, all-kill formats really are terrible get 1 superstar. win the tournament. gg. (just like individual tournaments zzz)
"team league"
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The final is a bo1 format. The one winning between Innovation and Taeja gets his team the tournament
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On July 09 2014 23:43 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 23:41 sAsImre wrote:On July 09 2014 23:40 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Sigh, all-kill formats really are terrible get 1 superstar. win the tournament. gg. (just like individual tournaments zzz) "team league"
too bad the acer-axiom adventure was in GSTL and not PL :'(
On July 09 2014 23:45 klup wrote:The final is a bo1 format. The one winning between Innovation and Taeja gets his team the tournament
bo3 with the wonderful revive rule.
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On July 09 2014 23:41 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 23:40 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Sigh, all-kill formats really are terrible get 1 superstar. win the tournament. gg. (just like individual tournaments zzz)
I personally like KOTH style leagues better (NGL in wc3 was amazing). If you are unable to race+map pick kill a teams player then that is your own teams fault not a format issue.
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On July 09 2014 23:46 duckk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 23:41 sAsImre wrote:On July 09 2014 23:40 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Sigh, all-kill formats really are terrible get 1 superstar. win the tournament. gg. (just like individual tournaments zzz) I personally like KOTH style leagues better (NGL in wc3 was amazing). If you are unable to race+map pick kill a teams player then that is your own teams fault not a format issue.
the skill discrepancy in teams is so huge that it's pointless. Inno and Taeja are so far above everyone else that it's 100% stupid, hell inno is 33-4.
you're getting dunked because you've a balanced team even if you've pretty good players (Axiom eg)
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On July 09 2014 23:45 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 23:43 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 09 2014 23:41 sAsImre wrote:On July 09 2014 23:40 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Sigh, all-kill formats really are terrible get 1 superstar. win the tournament. gg. (just like individual tournaments zzz) "team league" too bad the acer-axiom adventure was in GSTL and not PL :'( Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 23:45 klup wrote:The final is a bo1 format. The one winning between Innovation and Taeja gets his team the tournament bo3 with the wonderful revive rule.
Ah yes forgot the revive thing!
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On July 09 2014 23:43 Yhamm wrote:
ah, some whine on the format, like every week on ATC
There's no problem with that though, format of a tournament only changes once a season, if you want to change something there, you have to be vocal consistently. I personally have no problem with all-kill, but if they have, there are not that many other channels to communicate it. (Ofc I may be a bit biased here, since I use my freedom of expression against bad systems quite often).
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I'd be more fine with it if there wasn't the revive rule because at least you then can prepare a sniper build for that one player. You can't do that when he can then just be sent out again.
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On July 09 2014 23:48 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 23:43 Yhamm wrote:
ah, some whine on the format, like every week on ATC There's no problem with that though, format of a tournament only changes once a season, if you want to change something there, you have to be vocal consistently. I personally have no problem with all-kill, but if they have, there are not that many other channels to communicate it. (Ofc I may be a bit biased here, since I use my freedom of expression against bad systems quite often).
he could make a thread, ask for a vote to see what the viewers think and show it to TaKe, not whine about it each time Axiom loses or when some other player do an all-kill
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Why did Hasu chase that all the way?
Taeja somehow wins after losing all those SCVs and a lot of army
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On July 09 2014 23:50 Yhamm wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 23:48 Xoronius wrote:On July 09 2014 23:43 Yhamm wrote:
ah, some whine on the format, like every week on ATC There's no problem with that though, format of a tournament only changes once a season, if you want to change something there, you have to be vocal consistently. I personally have no problem with all-kill, but if they have, there are not that many other channels to communicate it. (Ofc I may be a bit biased here, since I use my freedom of expression against bad systems quite often). he could make a thread, ask for a vote to see what the viewers think and show it to TaKe, not whine about it each time Axiom loses or when some other player do an all-kill
Well let's see shall we:
Poll: What format do you prefer?Proleague (72) 62% All-kill no revive (35) 30% All-kill with revive (10) 9% 117 total votes Your vote: What format do you prefer? (Vote): All-kill with revive
(Vote): All-kill no revive
(Vote): Proleague
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On July 09 2014 23:55 Crot4le wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 23:50 Yhamm wrote:On July 09 2014 23:48 Xoronius wrote:On July 09 2014 23:43 Yhamm wrote:
ah, some whine on the format, like every week on ATC There's no problem with that though, format of a tournament only changes once a season, if you want to change something there, you have to be vocal consistently. I personally have no problem with all-kill, but if they have, there are not that many other channels to communicate it. (Ofc I may be a bit biased here, since I use my freedom of expression against bad systems quite often). he could make a thread, ask for a vote to see what the viewers think and show it to TaKe, not whine about it each time Axiom loses or when some other player do an all-kill Well let's see shall we: + Show Spoiler +Poll: What format do you prefer?Proleague (72) 62% All-kill no revive (35) 30% All-kill with revive (10) 9% 117 total votes Your vote: What format do you prefer? (Vote): All-kill with revive
(Vote): All-kill no revive
(Vote): Proleague
I prefer the PL format, but I also like variety in tournament formats
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On July 09 2014 23:43 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 23:41 sAsImre wrote:On July 09 2014 23:40 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Sigh, all-kill formats really are terrible get 1 superstar. win the tournament. gg. (just like individual tournaments zzz) "team league"
not like youre forced to participate but rather qq about all kill formats, classy
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On July 09 2014 23:50 Yhamm wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 23:48 Xoronius wrote:On July 09 2014 23:43 Yhamm wrote:
ah, some whine on the format, like every week on ATC There's no problem with that though, format of a tournament only changes once a season, if you want to change something there, you have to be vocal consistently. I personally have no problem with all-kill, but if they have, there are not that many other channels to communicate it. (Ofc I may be a bit biased here, since I use my freedom of expression against bad systems quite often). he could make a thread, ask for a vote to see what the viewers think and show it to TaKe, not whine about it each time Axiom loses or when some other player do an all-kill
You would rather someone make an extra thread than criticize the format in the thread for the tournament where that feedback is supposed to be posted?
That makes little sense. Personally I've already discussed my opinion on the format in the past with the organizers and you will have to forgive my frustration. We prepare to beat a team, but then we run into the wall of Innovation and don't get to play against that team, only against a player who we know is extremely good. That's not a team-league, that's getting thrashed by a superstar and it's rather disheartening. I prefer teamleagues that demonstrate the depth of a teams roster, which is what Proleague format is designed to do.
At least that won't happen in the losers bracket and we can actually show you a team match. We are sorry to our fans for a disappointing result.
not like youre forced to participate but rather qq about all kill formats, classy
German TaKe fans always have such predictable defensive reactions of anything organized by him. You are no exception. Relax, nobody is hating on TaKe, some of just take issue with the format of the event.
What other teamleagues are there to participate in exactly? You are quite literally talking about the only one, for a team that was built to play in GSTL, a teamleague. Yes, we have a great choice, we either play or... don't play. Not "forced" to participate, but clearly not in our best interests not to participate. We're very glad ATC exists, we would prefer it be a different format. Clan Wars was created because I thought an alternative format was needed for foreign teams to participate in, unfortunately with chemo kicking my ass I can't do it at the moment.
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On July 09 2014 23:55 Crot4le wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 23:50 Yhamm wrote:On July 09 2014 23:48 Xoronius wrote:On July 09 2014 23:43 Yhamm wrote:
ah, some whine on the format, like every week on ATC There's no problem with that though, format of a tournament only changes once a season, if you want to change something there, you have to be vocal consistently. I personally have no problem with all-kill, but if they have, there are not that many other channels to communicate it. (Ofc I may be a bit biased here, since I use my freedom of expression against bad systems quite often). he could make a thread, ask for a vote to see what the viewers think and show it to TaKe, not whine about it each time Axiom loses or when some other player do an all-kill Well let's see shall we: Poll: What format do you prefer?Proleague (72) 62% All-kill no revive (35) 30% All-kill with revive (10) 9% 117 total votes Your vote: What format do you prefer? (Vote): All-kill with revive
(Vote): All-kill no revive
(Vote): Proleague
I think we have to distinguish a bit here, dependent on roster size. With 6+ players (6 1v1, not 6 guys in the roster), I'd prefer PL format, with less people, I'm favoring all-kill no revive.
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Alright, who voted for revive?
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On July 09 2014 23:59 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Alright, who voted for revive?
Satan
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On July 09 2014 23:57 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 23:50 Yhamm wrote:On July 09 2014 23:48 Xoronius wrote:On July 09 2014 23:43 Yhamm wrote:
ah, some whine on the format, like every week on ATC There's no problem with that though, format of a tournament only changes once a season, if you want to change something there, you have to be vocal consistently. I personally have no problem with all-kill, but if they have, there are not that many other channels to communicate it. (Ofc I may be a bit biased here, since I use my freedom of expression against bad systems quite often). he could make a thread, ask for a vote to see what the viewers think and show it to TaKe, not whine about it each time Axiom loses or when some other player do an all-kill You would rather someone make an extra thread than criticize the format in the thread for the tournament where that feedback is supposed to be posted?
yes, I think it would have more views than lost in the middle of a LR thread, especially if you are the creator of the threads, that automatically attract more ppl
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On July 10 2014 00:01 Yhamm wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 23:57 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 09 2014 23:50 Yhamm wrote:On July 09 2014 23:48 Xoronius wrote:On July 09 2014 23:43 Yhamm wrote:
ah, some whine on the format, like every week on ATC There's no problem with that though, format of a tournament only changes once a season, if you want to change something there, you have to be vocal consistently. I personally have no problem with all-kill, but if they have, there are not that many other channels to communicate it. (Ofc I may be a bit biased here, since I use my freedom of expression against bad systems quite often). he could make a thread, ask for a vote to see what the viewers think and show it to TaKe, not whine about it each time Axiom loses or when some other player do an all-kill You would rather someone make an extra thread than criticize the format in the thread for the tournament where that feedback is supposed to be posted? yes, I think it would have more views than lost in the middle of a LR thread, especially if you are the creator of the threads, that automatically attract more ppl
Debatable. LR threads tend to be pretty full.
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On July 10 2014 00:01 Yhamm wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 23:57 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 09 2014 23:50 Yhamm wrote:On July 09 2014 23:48 Xoronius wrote:On July 09 2014 23:43 Yhamm wrote:
ah, some whine on the format, like every week on ATC There's no problem with that though, format of a tournament only changes once a season, if you want to change something there, you have to be vocal consistently. I personally have no problem with all-kill, but if they have, there are not that many other channels to communicate it. (Ofc I may be a bit biased here, since I use my freedom of expression against bad systems quite often). he could make a thread, ask for a vote to see what the viewers think and show it to TaKe, not whine about it each time Axiom loses or when some other player do an all-kill You would rather someone make an extra thread than criticize the format in the thread for the tournament where that feedback is supposed to be posted? yes, I think it would have more views than lost in the middle of a LR thread, especially if you are the creator of the threads, that automatically attract more ppl
As I said before, we've already discussed the format with the organizers. Creating a thread would make little difference at this point.
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On July 09 2014 23:57 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 23:50 Yhamm wrote:On July 09 2014 23:48 Xoronius wrote:On July 09 2014 23:43 Yhamm wrote:
ah, some whine on the format, like every week on ATC There's no problem with that though, format of a tournament only changes once a season, if you want to change something there, you have to be vocal consistently. I personally have no problem with all-kill, but if they have, there are not that many other channels to communicate it. (Ofc I may be a bit biased here, since I use my freedom of expression against bad systems quite often). he could make a thread, ask for a vote to see what the viewers think and show it to TaKe, not whine about it each time Axiom loses or when some other player do an all-kill You would rather someone make an extra thread than criticize the format in the thread for the tournament where that feedback is supposed to be posted? That makes little sense. Personally I've already discussed my opinion on the format in the past with the organizers and you will have to forgive my frustration. We prepare to beat a team, but then we run into the wall of Innovation and don't get to play against that team, only against a player who we know is extremely good. That's not a team-league, that's getting thrashed by a superstar and it's rather disheartening. I prefer teamleagues that demonstrate the depth of a teams roster, which is what Proleague format is designed to do. At least that won't happen in the losers bracket and we can actually show you a team match. We are sorry to our fans for a disappointing result. Show nested quote +not like youre forced to participate but rather qq about all kill formats, classy German TaKe fans always have such predictable defensive reactions of anything organized by him. You are no exception. What other teamleagues are there to participate in exactly? You are quite literally talking about the only one, for a team that was built to play in GSTL, a teamleague. Yes, we have a great choice, we either play or... don't play. Not "forced" to participate, but clearly not in our best interests not to participate.
Correct me if i'm wrong but aren't Proleague playoffs played in all-kill format as well just like ATC (except ace revive)?
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What happend in Sjaak vs Snute?
Also, what's up with the stream? Anyone else getting stuttering like it's very low fps?
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On July 10 2014 00:03 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
Correct me if i'm wrong but aren't Proleague playoffs played in all-kill format as well just like ATC (except ace revive)?
They are.
I wouldn't mind a mixed format. I think GSTL was perfect for that, it provided both. I think doing the entire season and the playoffs in a BO9 revive format is not the best way to go about things.
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On July 10 2014 00:02 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 00:01 Yhamm wrote:On July 09 2014 23:57 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 09 2014 23:50 Yhamm wrote:On July 09 2014 23:48 Xoronius wrote:On July 09 2014 23:43 Yhamm wrote:
ah, some whine on the format, like every week on ATC There's no problem with that though, format of a tournament only changes once a season, if you want to change something there, you have to be vocal consistently. I personally have no problem with all-kill, but if they have, there are not that many other channels to communicate it. (Ofc I may be a bit biased here, since I use my freedom of expression against bad systems quite often). he could make a thread, ask for a vote to see what the viewers think and show it to TaKe, not whine about it each time Axiom loses or when some other player do an all-kill You would rather someone make an extra thread than criticize the format in the thread for the tournament where that feedback is supposed to be posted? yes, I think it would have more views than lost in the middle of a LR thread, especially if you are the creator of the threads, that automatically attract more ppl As I said before, we've already discussed the format with the organizers. Creating a thread would make little difference at this point.
I would prefer a separate thread as well to see what the community and other teams think (if you are interested in that). Otherwise people will regard what it is being said only as a reaction to a single result. Some users that don't read the LR stuff can participate as well and some people might bring up arguments they don't bother to bring up during LR.
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On July 09 2014 23:55 Crot4le wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 23:50 Yhamm wrote:On July 09 2014 23:48 Xoronius wrote:On July 09 2014 23:43 Yhamm wrote:
ah, some whine on the format, like every week on ATC There's no problem with that though, format of a tournament only changes once a season, if you want to change something there, you have to be vocal consistently. I personally have no problem with all-kill, but if they have, there are not that many other channels to communicate it. (Ofc I may be a bit biased here, since I use my freedom of expression against bad systems quite often). he could make a thread, ask for a vote to see what the viewers think and show it to TaKe, not whine about it each time Axiom loses or when some other player do an all-kill Well let's see shall we: Poll: What format do you prefer?Proleague (72) 62% All-kill no revive (35) 30% All-kill with revive (10) 9% 117 total votes Your vote: What format do you prefer? (Vote): All-kill with revive
(Vote): All-kill no revive
(Vote): Proleague
I know it's only a sample size of 34 so far but I think 22-12, almost double the support, is pretty overwhelmingly in favour of the proleague format.
It's what the fans want, I hope the next season could use the proleague format. Or at the very least ditch the revive rule.
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On July 10 2014 00:02 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 00:01 Yhamm wrote:On July 09 2014 23:57 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 09 2014 23:50 Yhamm wrote:On July 09 2014 23:48 Xoronius wrote:On July 09 2014 23:43 Yhamm wrote:
ah, some whine on the format, like every week on ATC There's no problem with that though, format of a tournament only changes once a season, if you want to change something there, you have to be vocal consistently. I personally have no problem with all-kill, but if they have, there are not that many other channels to communicate it. (Ofc I may be a bit biased here, since I use my freedom of expression against bad systems quite often). he could make a thread, ask for a vote to see what the viewers think and show it to TaKe, not whine about it each time Axiom loses or when some other player do an all-kill You would rather someone make an extra thread than criticize the format in the thread for the tournament where that feedback is supposed to be posted? yes, I think it would have more views than lost in the middle of a LR thread, especially if you are the creator of the threads, that automatically attract more ppl As I said before, we've already discussed the format with the organizers. Creating a thread would make little difference at this point.
then really there is no point to talk about it all the time if you think nothing can be done to change organizers point of view
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On July 10 2014 00:10 Yhamm wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 00:02 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 10 2014 00:01 Yhamm wrote:On July 09 2014 23:57 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 09 2014 23:50 Yhamm wrote:On July 09 2014 23:48 Xoronius wrote:On July 09 2014 23:43 Yhamm wrote:
ah, some whine on the format, like every week on ATC There's no problem with that though, format of a tournament only changes once a season, if you want to change something there, you have to be vocal consistently. I personally have no problem with all-kill, but if they have, there are not that many other channels to communicate it. (Ofc I may be a bit biased here, since I use my freedom of expression against bad systems quite often). he could make a thread, ask for a vote to see what the viewers think and show it to TaKe, not whine about it each time Axiom loses or when some other player do an all-kill You would rather someone make an extra thread than criticize the format in the thread for the tournament where that feedback is supposed to be posted? yes, I think it would have more views than lost in the middle of a LR thread, especially if you are the creator of the threads, that automatically attract more ppl As I said before, we've already discussed the format with the organizers. Creating a thread would make little difference at this point. then really there is no point to talk about it all the time if you think nothing can be done to change organizers point of view
there is nothing to talk about the game since they're trash anyway atm...
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On July 10 2014 00:10 Yhamm wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 00:02 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 10 2014 00:01 Yhamm wrote:On July 09 2014 23:57 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 09 2014 23:50 Yhamm wrote:On July 09 2014 23:48 Xoronius wrote:On July 09 2014 23:43 Yhamm wrote:
ah, some whine on the format, like every week on ATC There's no problem with that though, format of a tournament only changes once a season, if you want to change something there, you have to be vocal consistently. I personally have no problem with all-kill, but if they have, there are not that many other channels to communicate it. (Ofc I may be a bit biased here, since I use my freedom of expression against bad systems quite often). he could make a thread, ask for a vote to see what the viewers think and show it to TaKe, not whine about it each time Axiom loses or when some other player do an all-kill You would rather someone make an extra thread than criticize the format in the thread for the tournament where that feedback is supposed to be posted? yes, I think it would have more views than lost in the middle of a LR thread, especially if you are the creator of the threads, that automatically attract more ppl As I said before, we've already discussed the format with the organizers. Creating a thread would make little difference at this point. then really there is no point to talk about it all the time if you think nothing can be done to change organizers point of view
"All the time"? It's not discussed that often and also it's an LR thread, there's not a lack of space, there is no harm in discussing it.
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Inbetween breaks there is enough time to discuss this kind of stuff. So why not.
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On July 10 2014 00:12 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 00:10 Yhamm wrote:On July 10 2014 00:02 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 10 2014 00:01 Yhamm wrote:On July 09 2014 23:57 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 09 2014 23:50 Yhamm wrote:On July 09 2014 23:48 Xoronius wrote:On July 09 2014 23:43 Yhamm wrote:
ah, some whine on the format, like every week on ATC There's no problem with that though, format of a tournament only changes once a season, if you want to change something there, you have to be vocal consistently. I personally have no problem with all-kill, but if they have, there are not that many other channels to communicate it. (Ofc I may be a bit biased here, since I use my freedom of expression against bad systems quite often). he could make a thread, ask for a vote to see what the viewers think and show it to TaKe, not whine about it each time Axiom loses or when some other player do an all-kill You would rather someone make an extra thread than criticize the format in the thread for the tournament where that feedback is supposed to be posted? yes, I think it would have more views than lost in the middle of a LR thread, especially if you are the creator of the threads, that automatically attract more ppl As I said before, we've already discussed the format with the organizers. Creating a thread would make little difference at this point. then really there is no point to talk about it all the time if you think nothing can be done to change organizers point of view "All the time"? It's not discussed that often and also it's an LR thread, there's not a lack of space, there is no harm in discussing it.
all the time as "almost each time Axiom play in ATC" since that's when you are on LR thread
I just don't understand why you so want to "discuss" about that in LR threads but think it would be useless to create a constructive thread and ask the opinions of everyone...
personally, I would like ATC to have 2 divisions of 6 or 7 teams each, and use 2 round robin, 1 in all kill format and the other in PL format.
then top 2 go directly in offline grand finals, without playoffs
and the top 2 of division 2 are promoted to div 1
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On July 10 2014 00:17 Yhamm wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 00:12 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 10 2014 00:10 Yhamm wrote:On July 10 2014 00:02 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 10 2014 00:01 Yhamm wrote:On July 09 2014 23:57 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 09 2014 23:50 Yhamm wrote:On July 09 2014 23:48 Xoronius wrote:On July 09 2014 23:43 Yhamm wrote:
ah, some whine on the format, like every week on ATC There's no problem with that though, format of a tournament only changes once a season, if you want to change something there, you have to be vocal consistently. I personally have no problem with all-kill, but if they have, there are not that many other channels to communicate it. (Ofc I may be a bit biased here, since I use my freedom of expression against bad systems quite often). he could make a thread, ask for a vote to see what the viewers think and show it to TaKe, not whine about it each time Axiom loses or when some other player do an all-kill You would rather someone make an extra thread than criticize the format in the thread for the tournament where that feedback is supposed to be posted? yes, I think it would have more views than lost in the middle of a LR thread, especially if you are the creator of the threads, that automatically attract more ppl As I said before, we've already discussed the format with the organizers. Creating a thread would make little difference at this point. then really there is no point to talk about it all the time if you think nothing can be done to change organizers point of view "All the time"? It's not discussed that often and also it's an LR thread, there's not a lack of space, there is no harm in discussing it. all the time as "almost each time Axiom play in ATC" since that's when you are on LR thread I just don't understand why you so want to "discuss" about that in LR threads but think it would be useless to create a constructive thread and ask the opinions of everyone... personally, I would like ATC to have 2 divisions of 6 or 7 teams each, and use 2 round robin, 1 in all kill format and the other in PL format. then top 2 go directly in offline grand finals, without playoffs and the top 2 of division 2 are promoted to div 1
The only reason I'm discussing it is because you didn't want me to I was happy just to make a statement about how I disliked All-kill and leave it at that, but you insisted on making it a conversation so this is all your doing
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is it ultra rush or 2base infestors this time?
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On July 10 2014 00:26 Ej_ wrote:
is it ultra rush or 2base infestors this time?
ultra rush. I saw him do it on stream :D
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What's the point of rushing ultras if you only can afford like 2 of them?
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On July 10 2014 00:27 GreenMash wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 00:26 Ej_ wrote:
is it ultra rush or 2base infestors this time? ultra rush. I saw him do it on stream :D
yeah but hes done both before :^)
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Starbuck is weird as fuck.
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Belgica34432 Posts
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I'm terran but I want this to work !
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this was fun. i bet taeja laughed
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What a horrible strategy. A few ultras off creep with no banelings, not too hard for Taeja to target them down.
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Should've gone for Ultra drops
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yeah, only legit strategy is ultralisk drop harass
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I like to think Dear shed a single tear at Mouz's loss.
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Another all-kill....
Anyway, time for Axiom!!! Go go go
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On July 09 2014 23:55 Crot4le wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 23:50 Yhamm wrote:On July 09 2014 23:48 Xoronius wrote:On July 09 2014 23:43 Yhamm wrote:
ah, some whine on the format, like every week on ATC There's no problem with that though, format of a tournament only changes once a season, if you want to change something there, you have to be vocal consistently. I personally have no problem with all-kill, but if they have, there are not that many other channels to communicate it. (Ofc I may be a bit biased here, since I use my freedom of expression against bad systems quite often). he could make a thread, ask for a vote to see what the viewers think and show it to TaKe, not whine about it each time Axiom loses or when some other player do an all-kill Well let's see shall we: Poll: What format do you prefer?Proleague (72) 62% All-kill no revive (35) 30% All-kill with revive (10) 9% 117 total votes Your vote: What format do you prefer? (Vote): All-kill with revive
(Vote): All-kill no revive
(Vote): Proleague
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On July 10 2014 00:32 stuchiu wrote:
I like to think Dear shed a single tear at Mouz's loss.
i like to think dear stood the whole time behind taeja and motivated him.
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So uh, missed TL vs Mouz.
Taeja as solid as Winnovation?
Terran super-aces going strong
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Starbuck was hoping for Taeja to play funky too, 5 CCs 2 rax.
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Winner's final should just be Taeja vs Innovation bo9.
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On July 10 2014 00:25 stuchiu wrote:I wrote an entier thing the last time this topic came around. For team leagues in SC2, there have been 6-7 other formats. For brevity's sake I took out the EG Masters Cup because no one has the time for 5 bo3's and no one likes the weird "field a player twice during normal play, but use someone else as ace" bo7 thingy. The best done among all of the ones ever run is GSTL Season 2:  2013 Global StarCraft II Team League Season 22 rounds of AK, 2 rounds of PL format. With 12 teams in the league this works out fine, but would probably be harder to organize. There is Also Shoutcraft Clan WarsProbably the most diverse and fun format as it includes Starbow, 2v2 and PL. IPL Team Arena Challenge/3There's also IPL Team Arena. Instead of qualifiers into round robin, you could just do a massive doulble bracket elim with either PL or AK format. Then there's also other random formats like bo5 PL style if thye need shorter broadcasts, or the IPL Fight Club bounty rule if you need to make generally useless matches more exciting.
I'm still convinced that this format would be awesome to watch.
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On July 10 2014 00:34 Zheryn wrote:
Winner's final should just be Taeja vs Innovation bo9.
Showmatch best of 9 between Innovation and Taeja. I would love that actually!
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It was a easy call! Now yeah get rid of the other players and bring us a bo9 Taeja vs Innovation.
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mouz should have recruited Pigbaby
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On July 10 2014 00:32 stuchiu wrote:
So what does this beat?
I've heard he once almost beat MMA with this but then decided to die to drops
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Poll: Head: Who do you think will win?Axiom eSports (12) 86% mousesports (2) 14% 14 total votes Your vote: Head: Who do you think will win? (Vote): Axiom eSports
(Vote): mousesports
Poll: Heart: Who do you want to win?Axiom eSports (8) 57% mousesports (6) 43% 14 total votes Your vote: Heart: Who do you want to win? (Vote): Axiom eSports
(Vote): mousesports
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On July 09 2014 23:57 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Clan Wars was created because I thought an alternative format was needed for foreign teams to participate in, unfortunately with chemo kicking my ass I can't do it at the moment.
Not to go off topic that much, but once you're able to, do you plan on bringing back Clan Wars, or don't you know yet?
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On July 10 2014 00:47 Darmuth wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 23:57 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Clan Wars was created because I thought an alternative format was needed for foreign teams to participate in, unfortunately with chemo kicking my ass I can't do it at the moment. Not to go off topic that much, but once you're able to, do you plan on bringing back Clan Wars, or don't you know yet?
After this round of chemo is done, which would be August.
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Quite disappointing matches so far, with TaeJa and INoVation ripping apart teams!
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Oh god HerO and Snute lost to Sjaak...
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On July 10 2014 00:49 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 00:47 Darmuth wrote:On July 09 2014 23:57 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Clan Wars was created because I thought an alternative format was needed for foreign teams to participate in, unfortunately with chemo kicking my ass I can't do it at the moment. Not to go off topic that much, but once you're able to, do you plan on bringing back Clan Wars, or don't you know yet? After this round of chemo is done, which would be August.
Excellent, that's good to hear. I was worried since it was a sponsored it event that it would end up disappearing because of the down time. Glad to hear that's not the case. Thanks.
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On July 10 2014 00:56 Darmuth wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 00:49 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 10 2014 00:47 Darmuth wrote:On July 09 2014 23:57 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Clan Wars was created because I thought an alternative format was needed for foreign teams to participate in, unfortunately with chemo kicking my ass I can't do it at the moment. Not to go off topic that much, but once you're able to, do you plan on bringing back Clan Wars, or don't you know yet? After this round of chemo is done, which would be August. Excellent, that's good to hear. I was worried since it was a sponsored it event that it would end up disappearing because of the down time. Glad to hear that's not the case. Thanks.
Thankfully no. MLG just pay out as and when, so it's fine.
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France7248 Posts
hey TB, do you know the full map order for Axiom vs mouz ?
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On July 10 2014 01:04 Yhamm wrote:
hey TB, do you know the full map order for Axiom vs mouz ?
Probably like in season, last map (before repetition) becomes first map, first two maps repeated.
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Did Khaldor really just say that HeroMarine was a Master Baiter?
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Good thing terran is getting a buff soon
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On July 10 2014 01:10 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
Good thing terran is getting a buff soon
New sniper build off race?
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On July 10 2014 01:10 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
Good thing terran is getting a buff soon
Switch to terran please
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On July 10 2014 01:12 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 01:10 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
Good thing terran is getting a buff soon New sniper build off race?
11/11 probably
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Heromarine is in a bad spot. Ryung can just delay reinforcements with the drop and hold on with his own tanks back home and his army will gradually overtake Heromarine's
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Ryung TvT is not gone, it was just a little dusty
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Dat picture haha German pride overwhelming
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Woohoo Ryung <3
Lovely start.
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On July 10 2014 01:10 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
Good thing terran is getting a buff soon
Yeah it is, well they might not put it through after the test map.
Ryung playing marine-tank is always a good watch.
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On July 10 2014 01:09 SinCitta wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 01:04 Yhamm wrote:
hey TB, do you know the full map order for Axiom vs mouz ? Probably like in season, last map (before repetition) becomes first map, first two maps repeated.
nope ^^
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I dont know the terran player who goes for 2 base, 50 worker, late upgrades, 16 army supply more always seems to lose against the one that takes the third base.
As already seen twice in Bomber vs Heart in WCS.
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I wish I had seen this was starting at 3 in the morning so I didn't miss 90% of it. Does anyone know if ATC Day 2 is tomorrow? The calender doesn't even list it.
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On July 10 2014 01:25 CaptainIndustry wrote:
I wish I had seen this was starting at 3 in the morning so I didn't miss 90% of it. Does anyone know if ATC Day 2 is tomorrow? The calender doesn't even list it.
it is tomorrow
it will be listed soon after this match (once the winner is known)
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On July 10 2014 01:25 Yhamm wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 01:25 CaptainIndustry wrote:
I wish I had seen this was starting at 3 in the morning so I didn't miss 90% of it. Does anyone know if ATC Day 2 is tomorrow? The calender doesn't even list it. it is tomorrow it will be listed soon after this match (once the winner is known)
Okay thanks, you'd be shocked how hard to find that information is. Will it start 3 AM PST again?
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On July 10 2014 01:27 CaptainIndustry wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 01:25 Yhamm wrote:On July 10 2014 01:25 CaptainIndustry wrote:
I wish I had seen this was starting at 3 in the morning so I didn't miss 90% of it. Does anyone know if ATC Day 2 is tomorrow? The calender doesn't even list it. it is tomorrow it will be listed soon after this match (once the winner is known) Okay thanks, you'd be shocked how hard to find that information is. Will it start 3 AM PST again?
hard? just check liquipedia!
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Acer_TeamStory_Cup_Season_3#Playoffs
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On July 10 2014 01:28 Yhamm wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 01:27 CaptainIndustry wrote:On July 10 2014 01:25 Yhamm wrote:On July 10 2014 01:25 CaptainIndustry wrote:
I wish I had seen this was starting at 3 in the morning so I didn't miss 90% of it. Does anyone know if ATC Day 2 is tomorrow? The calender doesn't even list it. it is tomorrow it will be listed soon after this match (once the winner is known) Okay thanks, you'd be shocked how hard to find that information is. Will it start 3 AM PST again? hard? just check liquipedia! http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Acer_TeamStory_Cup_Season_3#Playoffs
I don't see times or specific dates for day 2 on there.
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On July 10 2014 01:29 CaptainIndustry wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 01:28 Yhamm wrote:On July 10 2014 01:27 CaptainIndustry wrote:On July 10 2014 01:25 Yhamm wrote:On July 10 2014 01:25 CaptainIndustry wrote:
I wish I had seen this was starting at 3 in the morning so I didn't miss 90% of it. Does anyone know if ATC Day 2 is tomorrow? The calender doesn't even list it. it is tomorrow it will be listed soon after this match (once the winner is known) Okay thanks, you'd be shocked how hard to find that information is. Will it start 3 AM PST again? hard? just check liquipedia! http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Acer_TeamStory_Cup_Season_3#Playoffs I don't see times or specific dates for day 2 on there.
If you click the bracket it tells you all the info
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On July 10 2014 01:29 CaptainIndustry wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 01:28 Yhamm wrote:On July 10 2014 01:27 CaptainIndustry wrote:On July 10 2014 01:25 Yhamm wrote:On July 10 2014 01:25 CaptainIndustry wrote:
I wish I had seen this was starting at 3 in the morning so I didn't miss 90% of it. Does anyone know if ATC Day 2 is tomorrow? The calender doesn't even list it. it is tomorrow it will be listed soon after this match (once the winner is known) Okay thanks, you'd be shocked how hard to find that information is. Will it start 3 AM PST again? hard? just check liquipedia! http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Acer_TeamStory_Cup_Season_3#Playoffs I don't see times or specific dates for day 2 on there.
Click the small "i" between team names in the bracket.
Edit: or anywhere on bracket apparently.
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On July 10 2014 01:29 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 01:29 CaptainIndustry wrote:On July 10 2014 01:28 Yhamm wrote:On July 10 2014 01:27 CaptainIndustry wrote:On July 10 2014 01:25 Yhamm wrote:On July 10 2014 01:25 CaptainIndustry wrote:
I wish I had seen this was starting at 3 in the morning so I didn't miss 90% of it. Does anyone know if ATC Day 2 is tomorrow? The calender doesn't even list it. it is tomorrow it will be listed soon after this match (once the winner is known) Okay thanks, you'd be shocked how hard to find that information is. Will it start 3 AM PST again? hard? just check liquipedia! http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Acer_TeamStory_Cup_Season_3#Playoffs I don't see times or specific dates for day 2 on there. If you click the bracket it tells you all the info
Oh snap. I never saw that feature. Thanks!!
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On July 10 2014 01:34 Zheryn wrote:
1800 minerals lol
Protoss receive interest on the minerals they keep in the bank.
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fortunally the WM buff has killed HT opener.
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Ouch those storms.
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On July 10 2014 01:36 Crot4le wrote:Ouch those storms.
The most awesome spell in sc2. Everyone just dies!
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Hope they send out a zerg, I want to see Sjaak's PvZ.
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Not super impressive play by Ryung tbf
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On July 10 2014 01:38 Zenbrez wrote:
Sjakk confirmed korean
Wow, how can you typo your God's name?
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On July 10 2014 01:38 Faefae wrote:
Not super impressive play by Ryung tbf
Dodging storms is pretty hard on NA server unfortunately
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sjaak doesnt even have +2 done yet?
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On July 10 2014 01:39 TotalBiscuit wrote:Dodging storms is pretty hard on NA server unfortunately
Not only on cross server. It's just freaking hard eeverytime and I think he is doing a great job dodging them.
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TaKe is so mad, because Collossus range is missing. I hope Sjaak is researching it soon, otherwise he might get a heart attack.
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On July 10 2014 01:38 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Wow, how can you typo your God's name?
I looked at the name of in the results tab.. apparently I can't copy very effectively.
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On July 10 2014 01:39 Shellshock wrote:
sjaak doesnt even have +2 done yet?
Well, if you go zealot ht you dont realy need attack upgrates. Also Ryung sniped his +2 attack
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DT confirmed second best unit after HT
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sjaak is the foreign hope
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Need vikings vs one robo collosi, let alone 2 robo
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What a fantastic game from Sjaak, this kid's got skills
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Belgica34432 Posts
Wow, that was amazing play from Sjaak
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On July 10 2014 01:40 Larkin wrote:
Sniping that +2 is huge!
You would have thought.
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Surprised that Sjaak still managed to win that considering the upgrade deficit. Ryung really needed more ghosts and vikings I suppose.
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On July 10 2014 01:43 metzninja wrote:What a fantastic game from Sjaak, this kid's got skills
Don't want to take anything off of him, but Ryung did not build any vikings and took fights he was not prepared to take.
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On July 10 2014 01:43 Lorning wrote:
Wow, that was amazing play from Sjaak
Simply amazing storms.
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On July 10 2014 01:39 TotalBiscuit wrote:Dodging storms is pretty hard on NA server unfortunately
Yeah playing on NA is really hard as a Terran
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On July 10 2014 01:43 D-light wrote:You would have thought.
Against any other race it might have been. Storm doesn't care about upgrades unfortunately.
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I am slowly starting to get into this Sjaak hype.
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On July 10 2014 01:43 D-light wrote:You would have thought.
DTs man. Took Ryung's attention away so he hit some big storms, and Ryung didn't have enough Vikings to deal with the colossi.
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On July 10 2014 01:43 Crot4le wrote:
Surprised that Sjaak still managed to win that considering the upgrade deficit. Ryung really needed more ghosts and vikings I suppose.
he had the composition advantage the whole game and ht don't give a fuck about upgrades
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On July 10 2014 01:43 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 01:43 D-light wrote:On July 10 2014 01:40 Larkin wrote:
Sniping that +2 is huge! You would have thought. Against any other race it might have been. Storm doesn't care about upgrades unfortunately.
Though I think that in general, Ryung should've had more vikings and put his Ghosts to better use. This was not a balance-related win, but more of a stubborn missing reaction from Ryung.
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Props for some sick storms, obviously the kid has some real skills.
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On July 10 2014 01:44 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 01:43 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 10 2014 01:43 D-light wrote:On July 10 2014 01:40 Larkin wrote:
Sniping that +2 is huge! You would have thought. Against any other race it might have been. Storm doesn't care about upgrades unfortunately. Though I think that in generel, Ryung should've had more vikings and put his Ghosts to better use. This was not a balance-related win, but more of a stubborn missing reaction from Ryung.
He should have had more vikings, particularly considering his ghosts were as late as they were.
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On July 10 2014 01:43 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I am slowly starting to get into this Sjaak hype.
He seems pretty promising, he let his macro slip a bit and lost his ups but didn't fall apart which bodes well.
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Do we know who's next for Axiom?
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On July 10 2014 01:45 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 01:44 boxerfred wrote:On July 10 2014 01:43 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 10 2014 01:43 D-light wrote:On July 10 2014 01:40 Larkin wrote:
Sniping that +2 is huge! You would have thought. Against any other race it might have been. Storm doesn't care about upgrades unfortunately. Though I think that in generel, Ryung should've had more vikings and put his Ghosts to better use. This was not a balance-related win, but more of a stubborn missing reaction from Ryung. He should have had more vikings, particularly considering his ghosts were as late as they were.
I tuned in at 3base vs 3base, so I missed the early game. I guess Ryung just missed the 2nd Robo then?
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On July 10 2014 01:43 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I am slowly starting to get into this Sjaak hype.
No! Serral hype! Can't be both!
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Impact gonna demolish Sjaak.
(I hope)
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On July 10 2014 01:46 D-light wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 01:43 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I am slowly starting to get into this Sjaak hype. No! Serral hype! Can't be both!
Yeah, Serral is future bonwja but Sjaak might become one of the best foreigner. Still, not even close to Serral
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Eurgh I had that joining problem loads yesterday.
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On July 10 2014 01:48 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 01:46 D-light wrote:On July 10 2014 01:43 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I am slowly starting to get into this Sjaak hype. No! Serral hype! Can't be both! Yeah, Serral is future bonwja but Sjaak might become one of the best foreigner. Still, not even close to Serral
That sounds like an ESEX headline
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Something is up with NarutOs speech. Has he been to the dentist?
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On July 10 2014 01:46 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 01:45 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 10 2014 01:44 boxerfred wrote:On July 10 2014 01:43 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 10 2014 01:43 D-light wrote:On July 10 2014 01:40 Larkin wrote:
Sniping that +2 is huge! You would have thought. Against any other race it might have been. Storm doesn't care about upgrades unfortunately. Though I think that in generel, Ryung should've had more vikings and put his Ghosts to better use. This was not a balance-related win, but more of a stubborn missing reaction from Ryung. He should have had more vikings, particularly considering his ghosts were as late as they were. I tuned in at 3base vs 3base, so I missed the early game. I guess Ryung just missed the 2nd Robo then?
Sjaak basically had the game won before that. Contained Ryung on 2base while taking his third and was like 20 supply up. He could have finished the game if he had made more gateways earlier and not floated 1800 mins.
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On July 10 2014 01:49 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 01:48 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On July 10 2014 01:46 D-light wrote:On July 10 2014 01:43 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I am slowly starting to get into this Sjaak hype. No! Serral hype! Can't be both! Yeah, Serral is future bonwja but Sjaak might become one of the best foreigner. Still, not even close to Serral That sounds like an ESEX headline
Foreigners resort to breaking child labor laws to defeat the Korean menace.
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On July 10 2014 01:51 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 01:49 boxerfred wrote:On July 10 2014 01:48 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On July 10 2014 01:46 D-light wrote:On July 10 2014 01:43 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I am slowly starting to get into this Sjaak hype. No! Serral hype! Can't be both! Yeah, Serral is future bonwja but Sjaak might become one of the best foreigner. Still, not even close to Serral That sounds like an ESEX headline Foreigners resort to breaking child labor laws to defeat the Korean menace.
In semi-related news, IEM has split the KR division qualifiers again into Pusan, Seoul, Incheon and Paekdu. The winners of each qualifier will move onto the Asian qualifier where they will fight for exactly 3 spots. 1 reserverd for China. The other two open to Koreans, but 1 already reserved for Select. Then the winner must jump through hoops of fire, swim through a river full of crocodiles and fight an android in order to qualify or else the seed will go to a player of another region.
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Impact really? No spores against the guy who uses dts and oracles constantly?
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Impact scouted double gas in main and no gateways/units and doesn't get spores?
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On July 10 2014 01:54 Josh_Video wrote:
Weird build from Impact.
Weird aka the nice way to say badly thought-out.
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Sjaak is really looking like a foreign banjo right now
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Wow, that warp prism and dt's delaying third base so much :D
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On July 10 2014 01:59 Darkhorse wrote:
Sjaak is really looking like a foreign banjo right now
or a decent p who's good at cheesing.
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The protoss player so good !
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On July 10 2014 02:00 Nerchio wrote:
The protoss player so good !
He really has some sick micro, his FF are so good too o.O
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On July 10 2014 02:00 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 01:59 Darkhorse wrote:
Sjaak is really looking like a foreign banjo right now or a decent p who's good at cheesing.
They are almost the same same thing.
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We should really stop assuming that Sjaak won't cheese, that's a critical strategic error on our part.
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On July 10 2014 02:00 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 01:59 Darkhorse wrote:
Sjaak is really looking like a foreign banjo right now or a decent p who's good at cheesing.
I don't think he's that good but beating Golden, Hyun, HerO, Snute, Ryung, Impact over the past month is not bad regardless of your race.
Of course he is a cheesy guy. Obviously an avid reader of the Great Book.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On July 10 2014 02:03 TotalBiscuit wrote:
We should really stop assuming that Sjaak won't cheese, that's a critical strategic error on our part.
Nestea the prophet. Never stopped assuming Inca wouldn't go dts.
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On July 10 2014 02:03 TotalBiscuit wrote:
We should really stop assuming that Sjaak won't cheese, that's a critical strategic error on our part.
Tbf, Sjaak's cheese was a response to Impact's proxy hatch.
Not sure why Impact didn't play that straight up to be honest but hindsight is a wonderful thing.
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On July 10 2014 01:55 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 01:51 stuchiu wrote:On July 10 2014 01:49 boxerfred wrote:On July 10 2014 01:48 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On July 10 2014 01:46 D-light wrote:On July 10 2014 01:43 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I am slowly starting to get into this Sjaak hype. No! Serral hype! Can't be both! Yeah, Serral is future bonwja but Sjaak might become one of the best foreigner. Still, not even close to Serral That sounds like an ESEX headline Foreigners resort to breaking child labor laws to defeat the Korean menace. In semi-related news, IEM has split the KR division qualifiers again into Pusan, Seoul, Incheon and Paekdu. The winners of each qualifier will move onto the Asian qualifier where they will fight for exactly 3 spots. 1 reserverd for China. The other two open to Koreans, but 1 already reserved for Select. Then the winner must jump through hoops of fire, swim through a river full of crocodiles and fight an android in order to qualify or else the seed will go to a player of another region.
1 of the 2 Korean seeds is reserved for Selected..? Good grief.
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On July 10 2014 02:03 TotalBiscuit wrote:
We should really stop assuming that Sjaak won't cheese, that's a critical strategic error on our part.
Not sure how anyone can assume Sjaak not cheesing.
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On July 10 2014 02:04 Crot4le wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:03 TotalBiscuit wrote:
We should really stop assuming that Sjaak won't cheese, that's a critical strategic error on our part. Tbf, Sjaak's cheese was a response to Impact's proxy hatch. Not sure why Impact didn't play that straight up to be honest but hindsight is a wonderful thing.
Impact was an idiot not to build spores. He built the drone to scout the main, which he did successfully, then proceeded to assume "oh yeah, a Protoss player will just play straight up from this position after I scouted nothing in the main, sure".
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
Was Sjaaks first game also a cheese opener?
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On July 10 2014 02:03 TotalBiscuit wrote:
We should really stop assuming that Sjaak won't cheese, that's a critical strategic error on our part.
There is no instance of a nation benefiting from prolonged battle. Is that the right quote?
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On July 10 2014 02:05 Lorning wrote:
Was Sjaaks first game also a cheese opener?
No, it was an HT opening
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Awesome to see Sjaakie do so well
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On July 10 2014 02:04 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:04 Crot4le wrote:On July 10 2014 02:03 TotalBiscuit wrote:
We should really stop assuming that Sjaak won't cheese, that's a critical strategic error on our part. Tbf, Sjaak's cheese was a response to Impact's proxy hatch. Not sure why Impact didn't play that straight up to be honest but hindsight is a wonderful thing. Impact was an idiot not to build spores. He built the drone to scout the main, which he did successfully, then proceeded to assume "oh yeah, a Protoss player will just play straight up from this position after I scouted nothing in the main, sure".
"Maybe he is just floating 1000 gas to build high templars later on."
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On July 10 2014 02:05 Lorning wrote:
Was Sjaaks first game also a cheese opener?
no. It was zealot ht. He attacked so late that I cant call it cheese. (Ryung was aggressive player)
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Khaldor giving the smackdown to balance whiners
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On July 10 2014 02:03 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:00 sAsImre wrote:On July 10 2014 01:59 Darkhorse wrote:
Sjaak is really looking like a foreign banjo right now or a decent p who's good at cheesing. I don't think he's that good but beating Golden, Hyun, HerO, Snute, Ryung, Impact over the past month is not bad regardless of your race. Of course he is a cheesy guy. Obviously an avid reader of the Great Book.
being cheesy to begin isn't bad if you're able to get better afterwards (ala hearth or maru eg)
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On July 10 2014 02:07 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:05 Lorning wrote:
Was Sjaaks first game also a cheese opener? no. It was zealot ht. He attacked so late that I cant call it cheese. (Ryung was aggressive player)
Ryung was not agressive :o
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Looks like NaNiwa has finally been replaced
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United States23455 Posts
On July 10 2014 02:09 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
Looks like NaNiwa has finally been replaced
Dunno if Sjaak is BM enough
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On July 10 2014 02:10 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:09 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
Looks like NaNiwa has finally been replaced Dunno if Sjaak is BM enough
When Sjaak walks off stage after 1 map, then we can say he is the new Nani.
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On July 10 2014 02:07 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:05 Lorning wrote:
Was Sjaaks first game also a cheese opener? no. It was zealot ht. He attacked so late that I cant call it cheese. (Ryung was aggressive player)
But I thought we couldn't trust him to not cheese?
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On July 10 2014 02:09 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
Looks like NaNiwa has finally been replaced
If anyone wants a Naniwa in their tournament, just invite me and I too will forfeit a bo5 after 1 game and blame sound issues!
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On July 10 2014 02:08 Faefae wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:07 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On July 10 2014 02:05 Lorning wrote:
Was Sjaaks first game also a cheese opener? no. It was zealot ht. He attacked so late that I cant call it cheese. (Ryung was aggressive player) Ryung was not agressive :o
He was. When Sjaak was storm dropping Ryung was attacking Sjaak natural at the same time
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On July 10 2014 02:11 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:07 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On July 10 2014 02:05 Lorning wrote:
Was Sjaaks first game also a cheese opener? no. It was zealot ht. He attacked so late that I cant call it cheese. (Ryung was aggressive player) But I thought we couldn't trust him to not cheese?
doing HT first is cheesy in the current meta huehue
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On July 10 2014 02:11 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:10 Darkhorse wrote:On July 10 2014 02:09 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
Looks like NaNiwa has finally been replaced Dunno if Sjaak is BM enough When Sjaak walks off stage after 1 map, then we can say he is the new Nani.
Nah, if you make it that easy, everyone can do it. Add in 2 consecutive Code S quarters.
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On July 10 2014 02:12 Faust852 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:11 Lorning wrote:On July 10 2014 02:07 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On July 10 2014 02:05 Lorning wrote:
Was Sjaaks first game also a cheese opener? no. It was zealot ht. He attacked so late that I cant call it cheese. (Ryung was aggressive player) But I thought we couldn't trust him to not cheese? doing HT first is cheesy in the current meta huehue
Of course, remember the HT opening was killed by the widowmine many centuries again.
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On July 10 2014 02:12 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:08 Faefae wrote:On July 10 2014 02:07 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On July 10 2014 02:05 Lorning wrote:
Was Sjaaks first game also a cheese opener? no. It was zealot ht. He attacked so late that I cant call it cheese. (Ryung was aggressive player) Ryung was not agressive :o He was. When Sjaak was storm dropping Ryung was attacking Sjaak natural at the same time
are you real ?
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United States97276 Posts
On July 10 2014 02:10 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:09 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
Looks like NaNiwa has finally been replaced Dunno if Sjaak is BM enough
or can lose bo5 fast enough
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Northern Ireland26094 Posts
Or when he makes deep runs in Premier tournaments consistently...
Anyway why do we need a new Nani? Let Sjaak be the new Sjaak and show us what he can accomplish.
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On July 10 2014 02:12 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:12 Faust852 wrote:On July 10 2014 02:11 Lorning wrote:On July 10 2014 02:07 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On July 10 2014 02:05 Lorning wrote:
Was Sjaaks first game also a cheese opener? no. It was zealot ht. He attacked so late that I cant call it cheese. (Ryung was aggressive player) But I thought we couldn't trust him to not cheese? doing HT first is cheesy in the current meta huehue Of course, remember the HT opening was killed by the widowmine many centuries again.
Yeah, it's like broodlord infestor now.
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On July 10 2014 02:12 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:08 Faefae wrote:On July 10 2014 02:07 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On July 10 2014 02:05 Lorning wrote:
Was Sjaaks first game also a cheese opener? no. It was zealot ht. He attacked so late that I cant call it cheese. (Ryung was aggressive player) Ryung was not agressive :o He was. When Sjaak was storm dropping Ryung was attacking Sjaak natural at the same time
Hmm i though Ryung went 3rd CC before adding 2 rax? Yes Ryung was poking... Can't call that agressive though
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On July 10 2014 02:13 Wombat_NI wrote:
Or when he makes deep runs in Premier tournaments consistently...
Anyway why do we need a new Nani? Let Sjaak be the new Sjaak and show us what he can accomplish.
We need a new NaNi so that EU LRs get hundreds of pages again
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On July 10 2014 02:13 Faefae wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:12 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On July 10 2014 02:08 Faefae wrote:On July 10 2014 02:07 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On July 10 2014 02:05 Lorning wrote:
Was Sjaaks first game also a cheese opener? no. It was zealot ht. He attacked so late that I cant call it cheese. (Ryung was aggressive player) Ryung was not agressive :o He was. When Sjaak was storm dropping Ryung was attacking Sjaak natural at the same time Hmm i though Ryung went 3rd CC before adding 2 rax? Yes Ryung was poking... Can't call that agressive though
Ryung confirmed for allining at 10min with 2 medivacs.
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United States97276 Posts
Heart going to show us why he has better TvP than Bomber and would have won WCS AM
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Northern Ireland26094 Posts
Hundreds of pages of polarised bullshit
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I don't really like the fact that he is showing his hellions
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
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Belgica34432 Posts
Obligatory "InCaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa"
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On July 10 2014 02:09 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
Looks like NaNiwa has finally been replaced
InCa*
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On July 10 2014 02:16 Lorning wrote:
Obligatory "InCaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa"
You should let this to Stuchiu. It's his job in LR
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Detection lessons only $10 per hour, PM if you are interested
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SJAAK LOVES DT JUST LIKE ME AND INCA AND ELFI AND WELMU AND LIKE EVERYBODY
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
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Gosh this is frustrating to watch.
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United States97276 Posts
On July 10 2014 02:18 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
SJAAK LOVES DT JUST LIKE ME AND INCA AND ELFI AND WELMU AND LIKE EVERYBODY
is sjaak your favorite player that isn't Finnish?
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On July 10 2014 02:18 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
SJAAK LOVES DT JUST LIKE ME AND INCA AND ELFI AND WELMU AND LIKE EVERYBODY
Elfi and Welmu don't open with them this often though.
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Can we get a memo out to the Axiom house that Sjaak is gonna cheese....
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On July 10 2014 02:14 Shellshock wrote:
Heart going to show us why he has better TvP than Bomber and would have won WCS AM
Oh is that what's happening right now?
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Northern Ireland26094 Posts
Stim and the reactor on the Starport is pretty big, specially with a Collosus follow-up possible.
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United States23455 Posts
On July 10 2014 02:13 Wombat_NI wrote:
Or when he makes deep runs in Premier tournaments consistently...
Anyway why do we need a new Nani? Let Sjaak be the new Sjaak and show us what he can accomplish.
I'd rather have a foreigner not make deep runs than have one makes deep runs but acts like an asshole tbh
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On July 10 2014 02:19 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:14 Shellshock wrote:
Heart going to show us why he has better TvP than Bomber and would have won WCS AM Oh is that what's happening right now?
Pigbaby is no Sjaak tho
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sjaak learning one or two stuff from $O$
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On July 10 2014 02:19 Crot4le wrote:
Can we get a memo out to the Axiom house that Sjaak is gonna cheese....
Nah, foreigners need some bonjwa hype.
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Wow, just tuned in and looked at the results. Go Sjaak, kicking some ass today.
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On July 10 2014 02:19 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:18 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
SJAAK LOVES DT JUST LIKE ME AND INCA AND ELFI AND WELMU AND LIKE EVERYBODY is sjaak your favorite player that isn't Finnish?
I don't rate player that arent finnish. There are Finns, non-finn foreigners and koreans.
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Funny thing is: When Axiom finally takes Sjaak down, they'll face Starbuck.
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Is it really efficient to lose 1dt forr a scan ? Yeah I guess.
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On July 10 2014 02:19 D-light wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:18 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
SJAAK LOVES DT JUST LIKE ME AND INCA AND ELFI AND WELMU AND LIKE EVERYBODY Elfi and Welmu don't open with them this often though.
Yeah, but they use them alot 
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United States23455 Posts
Heart is Bruce Willis Terran I think he still wins.
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On July 10 2014 02:18 Nerchio wrote:
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On July 10 2014 02:21 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:19 Shellshock wrote:On July 10 2014 02:18 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
SJAAK LOVES DT JUST LIKE ME AND INCA AND ELFI AND WELMU AND LIKE EVERYBODY is sjaak your favorite player that isn't Finnish? I don't rate player that arent finnish. There are Finns, non-finn foreigners and koreans.
Sounds like me and the Canadians.
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On July 10 2014 02:22 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:19 D-light wrote:On July 10 2014 02:18 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
SJAAK LOVES DT JUST LIKE ME AND INCA AND ELFI AND WELMU AND LIKE EVERYBODY Elfi and Welmu don't open with them this often though. Yeah, but they use them alot
A lot*
Eh I guess, I'm not so sure about the exact numbers.
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United States97276 Posts
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United States23455 Posts
Fack the Bruce Willis Terran has fallen
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All kill format so silly. Get a Sjaak and get carried.
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On July 10 2014 02:22 Faust852 wrote:
Is it really efficient to lose 1dt forr a scan ? Yeah I guess.
Delaying/weakening the mid-game T push is quite nice too.
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Belgica34432 Posts
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On July 10 2014 02:24 Faust852 wrote:
omg amazing time warps !
Haha indeed.
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[mouz] Sjaak: oki
invite
i remember totalbiscuit posting in my announcement thread
he said
thanks for freewin if he would face mouz
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well played.
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United States97276 Posts
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There's so many protoss jokes I could make right now. But seriously, it's super impressive.
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On July 10 2014 02:24 Faust852 wrote:
omg amazing time warps !
yeah crazy skill :D
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Wenn Heart lost to Bomber in WCS it was said now toss will win finale now, cause only Heart could win a TvP.
Well now Heart showed how good his TvP is :D
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mouz is thanking god they picked this kid up. other teams are probably kicking themselves too
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On July 10 2014 02:24 NarutO wrote:
[mouz] Sjaak: oki
invite
i remember totalbiscuit posting in my announcement thread
he said
thanks for freewin if he would face mouz
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well played.
Holy shit this guy
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On July 10 2014 02:25 Shellshock wrote:
Will he open DTs in PvP?
he already did against hero and he beat hero
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I hope we will not see drama about mousesports and Axiom.
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On July 10 2014 02:25 Shellshock wrote:
Will he open DTs in PvP?
He did vs HerO earlier
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On July 10 2014 02:24 NarutO wrote:
[mouz] Sjaak: oki
invite
i remember totalbiscuit posting in my announcement thread
he said
thanks for freewin if he would face mouz
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well played.
hahahah TotalBiscuit getting #rekt
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On July 10 2014 02:25 Rollora wrote:
Wenn Heart lost to Bomber in WCS it was said now toss will win finale now, cause only Heart could win a TvP.
Well now Heart showed how good his TvP is :D
I really don't think losing a single map to cheese means you are weak at that match-up. Heart beat Pigbaby 2-1 in his group in the Ro16 by the way.
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On July 10 2014 02:25 Rollora wrote:
Wenn Heart lost to Bomber in WCS it was said now toss will win finale now, cause only Heart could win a TvP.
Well now Heart showed how good his TvP is :D
Well DT nullified the skillgap between the two there.
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On July 10 2014 02:24 Godwrath wrote:
All kill format so silly. Get a Sjaak and get carried.
A Taeja or a Innovation could do the trick though
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I guess maybe next time we should pick up a new player 1 day before the playoffs. apparently it works pretty well. My guys playing like idiots doesn't help matters either
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United States23455 Posts
On July 10 2014 02:24 NarutO wrote:
[mouz] Sjaak: oki
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i remember totalbiscuit posting in my announcement thread
he said
thanks for freewin if he would face mouz
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well played.
On July 09 2014 10:37 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 03:23 Yhamm wrote:
I wonder what TotalBiscuit thinks of those 2 recruitments 1-2 days before the start of ATC playoffs ^^ Our official position is "thanks for the free win", *kappa*
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On July 10 2014 02:26 Aeromi wrote:
I hope we will not see drama about mousesports and Axiom.
Why would we?
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the salt is leaking in this thread
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On July 10 2014 02:27 Faefae wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:26 Aeromi wrote:
I hope we will not see drama about mousesports and Axiom. Why would we?
Because of mousesports recruiting 2 players one day before this match.
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On July 10 2014 02:26 TotalBiscuit wrote:
I guess maybe next time we should pick up a new player 1 day before the playoffs. apparently it works pretty well. My guys playing like idiots doesn't help matters either
Pick me up, I'm new
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
What if TB said no to letting mouz play Sjaak cause he's new? Was that a possibility?
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On July 10 2014 02:24 NarutO wrote:
[mouz] Sjaak: oki
invite
i remember totalbiscuit posting in my announcement thread
he said
thanks for freewin if he would face mouz
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well played.
I guess he doesn't know that kappa at the end is for sarcasm.
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On July 10 2014 02:26 TotalBiscuit wrote:
I guess maybe next time we should pick up a new player 1 day before the playoffs. apparently it works pretty well. My guys playing like idiots doesn't help matters either
you make it sound like they are all mercs rather than a team xD, perhaps why the team is struggling in this format.
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On July 10 2014 02:27 Aeromi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:27 Faefae wrote:On July 10 2014 02:26 Aeromi wrote:
I hope we will not see drama about mousesports and Axiom. Why would we? Because of mousesports recruiting 2 players one day before this match.
My guess is that everyone inolved agreed on that!
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Time to tie a lazor beam on Sjaaks head for those PvPs.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On July 10 2014 02:26 TotalBiscuit wrote:
I guess maybe next time we should pick up a new player 1 day before the playoffs. apparently it works pretty well. My guys playing like idiots doesn't help matters either
If it was me I'd pick up Solar for just a week. Make it an alliance thingamajig cause everything goes in ATC
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On July 10 2014 02:28 Faefae wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:27 Aeromi wrote:On July 10 2014 02:27 Faefae wrote:On July 10 2014 02:26 Aeromi wrote:
I hope we will not see drama about mousesports and Axiom. Why would we? Because of mousesports recruiting 2 players one day before this match. My guess is that everyone inolved agreed on that!
Nope. But it was take admins decision, we couldn't do much about it
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On July 10 2014 02:27 Aeromi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:27 Faefae wrote:On July 10 2014 02:26 Aeromi wrote:
I hope we will not see drama about mousesports and Axiom. Why would we? Because of mousesports recruiting 2 players one day before this match.
no team should be allowed to recruit players as long as axiom is still in the atc
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United States23455 Posts
On July 10 2014 02:27 Faefae wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:26 Aeromi wrote:
I hope we will not see drama about mousesports and Axiom. Why would we?
Well tbh picking up 2 players only a few days before the playoffs seems kinda BS. Those are the tourney rules though so I won't complain.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On July 10 2014 02:28 Faefae wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:27 Aeromi wrote:On July 10 2014 02:27 Faefae wrote:On July 10 2014 02:26 Aeromi wrote:
I hope we will not see drama about mousesports and Axiom. Why would we? Because of mousesports recruiting 2 players one day before this match. My guess is that everyone inolved agreed on that!
My guess is that like every other rule made, everyone got enraged, but no one could do anything cause ATC is the last team league outside Korea.
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On July 10 2014 02:28 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:26 TotalBiscuit wrote:
I guess maybe next time we should pick up a new player 1 day before the playoffs. apparently it works pretty well. My guys playing like idiots doesn't help matters either If it was me I'd pick up Solar for just a week. Make it an alliance thingamajig cause everything goes in ATC
Except being 2 minutes late due to internet issues
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I hope it'll be dt vs dt base trade with no obs!
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your Country52797 Posts
On July 10 2014 02:24 NarutO wrote:
[mouz] Sjaak: oki
invite
i remember totalbiscuit posting in my announcement thread
he said
thanks for freewin if he would face mouz
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well played.
literally scarlett vs The_Templar
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On July 10 2014 02:26 TotalBiscuit wrote:
I guess maybe next time we should pick up a new player 1 day before the playoffs. apparently it works pretty well. My guys playing like idiots doesn't help matters either
Maybe you should pick yourself and win ATC?
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Faceless foreigners winning everything. #dedgame
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United States23455 Posts
I have no sympathy for this whole "they picked up players so late thing" because Symbol and SuNo are free agents. *glares at everyone*
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On July 10 2014 02:29 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:28 Faefae wrote:On July 10 2014 02:27 Aeromi wrote:On July 10 2014 02:27 Faefae wrote:On July 10 2014 02:26 Aeromi wrote:
I hope we will not see drama about mousesports and Axiom. Why would we? Because of mousesports recruiting 2 players one day before this match. My guess is that everyone inolved agreed on that! Nope. But it was take admins decision, we couldn't do much about it
Yeah i see.. That's understandable as well but must be really annoying
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Belgica34432 Posts
On July 10 2014 02:30 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:26 TotalBiscuit wrote:
I guess maybe next time we should pick up a new player 1 day before the playoffs. apparently it works pretty well. My guys playing like idiots doesn't help matters either Maybe you should pick yourself and win ATC?
Battlecruiser rush might actually work against a DT rush if the starport and fusion core are hidden
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On July 10 2014 02:30 Darkhorse wrote:
I have no sympathy for this whole "they picked up players so late thing" because Symbol and SuNo are free agents. *glares at everyone*
Every team in every team league should be disqualified for not picking up these two
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On July 10 2014 02:30 Darkhorse wrote:
I have no sympathy for this whole "they picked up players so late thing" because Symbol and SuNo are free agents. *glares at everyone*
Symbol wanted to play for Millenium.
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I really wonder why SuNo is still teamless. This guy is a true monster.
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On July 10 2014 02:31 JimmiC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:26 TotalBiscuit wrote:
I guess maybe next time we should pick up a new player 1 day before the playoffs. apparently it works pretty well. My guys playing like idiots doesn't help matters either Pure class
You would prefer I lie? Our guys are playing the worst starcraft I have seen from them in ages and I disagree with those decision to allow mouz to recruit 1 day before the playoffs. As usual, community wants transparency but only when it is about something they already agree with.
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United States23455 Posts
On July 10 2014 02:31 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:30 Darkhorse wrote:
I have no sympathy for this whole "they picked up players so late thing" because Symbol and SuNo are free agents. *glares at everyone* Every team in every team league should be disqualified for not picking up these two
I approve of this rule.
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Belgica34432 Posts
On July 10 2014 02:32 Aeromi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:30 Darkhorse wrote:
I have no sympathy for this whole "they picked up players so late thing" because Symbol and SuNo are free agents. *glares at everyone* Symbol wanted to play for Millenium.
What stopped him?
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your Country52797 Posts
On July 10 2014 02:30 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:30 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On July 10 2014 02:26 TotalBiscuit wrote:
I guess maybe next time we should pick up a new player 1 day before the playoffs. apparently it works pretty well. My guys playing like idiots doesn't help matters either Maybe you should pick yourself and win ATC? Battlecruiser rush might actually work against a DT rush if the starport and fusion core are hidden
Unless he does the battlecruiser rush like I do, under a watchtower ;_;
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On July 10 2014 02:32 Aeromi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:30 Darkhorse wrote:
I have no sympathy for this whole "they picked up players so late thing" because Symbol and SuNo are free agents. *glares at everyone* Symbol wanted to play for Millenium.
Make it happen.
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On July 10 2014 02:32 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:32 Aeromi wrote:On July 10 2014 02:30 Darkhorse wrote:
I have no sympathy for this whole "they picked up players so late thing" because Symbol and SuNo are free agents. *glares at everyone* Symbol wanted to play for Millenium. What stopped him?
I think he wanted more money than they were willing to offer
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On July 10 2014 02:29 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:27 Faefae wrote:On July 10 2014 02:26 Aeromi wrote:
I hope we will not see drama about mousesports and Axiom. Why would we? Well tbh picking up 2 players only a few days before the playoffs seems kinda BS. Those are the tourney rules though so I won't complain.
In most sports it wouldn't be that unusual..
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On July 10 2014 02:32 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:32 Aeromi wrote:On July 10 2014 02:30 Darkhorse wrote:
I have no sympathy for this whole "they picked up players so late thing" because Symbol and SuNo are free agents. *glares at everyone* Symbol wanted to play for Millenium. What stopped him?
Nydus' aren't allowed to be built in France.
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ATC should institute a trade deadline like traditional sports
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United States97276 Posts
On July 10 2014 02:32 Faust852 wrote:
I really wonder why SuNo is still teamless. This guy is a true monster.
yeah seems weird. At this point I'd have to guess it's something like looking for foreign travel and/or asking for too much money which teams aren't looking to give him. all speculation though
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Regarding the whole picking up agents two days before the play-offs it shouldn't have been allowed but I wasn't actually to bothered because I didn't think that Sjaak or Majestic would be too much of a threat...I mean it's not like they randomly picked up Symbol and SuperNova...*sighs*. As much as Sjaak has come on as of late, Axiom should be able to take him down.
Come on CranK, turn this around...
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On July 10 2014 02:33 Jono7272 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:29 Darkhorse wrote:On July 10 2014 02:27 Faefae wrote:On July 10 2014 02:26 Aeromi wrote:
I hope we will not see drama about mousesports and Axiom. Why would we? Well tbh picking up 2 players only a few days before the playoffs seems kinda BS. Those are the tourney rules though so I won't complain. In most sports it wouldn't be that unusual..
But in PL its pretty much the norm.
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On July 10 2014 02:33 Jono7272 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:29 Darkhorse wrote:On July 10 2014 02:27 Faefae wrote:On July 10 2014 02:26 Aeromi wrote:
I hope we will not see drama about mousesports and Axiom. Why would we? Well tbh picking up 2 players only a few days before the playoffs seems kinda BS. Those are the tourney rules though so I won't complain. In most sports it wouldn't be that unusual..
In most (American) sports there is a mid-season "trade deadline"
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On July 10 2014 02:32 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:32 Aeromi wrote:On July 10 2014 02:30 Darkhorse wrote:
I have no sympathy for this whole "they picked up players so late thing" because Symbol and SuNo are free agents. *glares at everyone* Symbol wanted to play for Millenium. What stopped him?
Well, ATC was a test, Symbol was the joker and he could later joined Millenium if he did well during ATC.
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On July 10 2014 02:32 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:32 Aeromi wrote:On July 10 2014 02:30 Darkhorse wrote:
I have no sympathy for this whole "they picked up players so late thing" because Symbol and SuNo are free agents. *glares at everyone* Symbol wanted to play for Millenium. What stopped him?
Maybe Millenium doesn't want Symbol for his price?
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United States23455 Posts
On July 10 2014 02:33 Jono7272 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:29 Darkhorse wrote:On July 10 2014 02:27 Faefae wrote:On July 10 2014 02:26 Aeromi wrote:
I hope we will not see drama about mousesports and Axiom. Why would we? Well tbh picking up 2 players only a few days before the playoffs seems kinda BS. Those are the tourney rules though so I won't complain. In most sports it wouldn't be that unusual..
Really? I dunno much about non-American sports, but the NHL, NBA, MLB, NFL all have trade deadlines so you can't pick up players right before the playoffs. So I disagree with that.
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On July 10 2014 02:30 boxerfred wrote:Faceless foreigners winning everything. #dedgame
If you hadn't put that winkey face there you'd be getting rekt by mods!
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Sjaak is ready for PvP
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On July 10 2014 02:34 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:33 Jono7272 wrote:On July 10 2014 02:29 Darkhorse wrote:On July 10 2014 02:27 Faefae wrote:On July 10 2014 02:26 Aeromi wrote:
I hope we will not see drama about mousesports and Axiom. Why would we? Well tbh picking up 2 players only a few days before the playoffs seems kinda BS. Those are the tourney rules though so I won't complain. In most sports it wouldn't be that unusual.. In most (American) sports there is a mid-season "trade deadline"
Yeah I did think most American sports had a lot of transfer deadlines but I couldn't bothered to look up the actual rules haha
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On July 10 2014 02:34 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:32 Faust852 wrote:
I really wonder why SuNo is still teamless. This guy is a true monster. yeah seems weird. At this point I'd have to guess it's something like looking for foreign travel and/or asking for too much money which teams aren't looking to give him. all speculation though
If I was rich I would creat a team with sC, SuNo, theSTC, Keen and Alive
-hipsterterran
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On July 10 2014 02:34 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:33 Jono7272 wrote:On July 10 2014 02:29 Darkhorse wrote:On July 10 2014 02:27 Faefae wrote:On July 10 2014 02:26 Aeromi wrote:
I hope we will not see drama about mousesports and Axiom. Why would we? Well tbh picking up 2 players only a few days before the playoffs seems kinda BS. Those are the tourney rules though so I won't complain. In most sports it wouldn't be that unusual.. Really? I dunno much about non-American sports, but the NHL, NBA, MLB, NFL all have trade deadlines so you can't pick up players right before the playoffs. So I disagree with that.
Well non-american sports are less likely to have "playoffs".
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Say what you want about thelate pickups from Mouz, but Sjaak and Majestic should not be enough of a threat to make this an issue
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On July 10 2014 02:34 D-light wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:32 Lorning wrote:On July 10 2014 02:32 Aeromi wrote:On July 10 2014 02:30 Darkhorse wrote:
I have no sympathy for this whole "they picked up players so late thing" because Symbol and SuNo are free agents. *glares at everyone* Symbol wanted to play for Millenium. What stopped him? Maybe Millenium doesn't want Symbol for his price?
I'd pay a million bajillion dollars to have his cute cheeks on my team
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United States23455 Posts
On July 10 2014 02:35 Faust852 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:34 Shellshock wrote:On July 10 2014 02:32 Faust852 wrote:
I really wonder why SuNo is still teamless. This guy is a true monster. yeah seems weird. At this point I'd have to guess it's something like looking for foreign travel and/or asking for too much money which teams aren't looking to give him. all speculation though If I was rich I would creat a team with sC, SuNo, theSTC, Keen and Alive -hipsterterran
Wouldn't you have to pay off the Korean military with your richness to get theStC back? Thanks for including aLive btw
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On July 10 2014 02:31 JimmiC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:26 TotalBiscuit wrote:
I guess maybe next time we should pick up a new player 1 day before the playoffs. apparently it works pretty well. My guys playing like idiots doesn't help matters either Pure class
especially when its heavy weights like sjaak for a team that just recently lost dear and vortix.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On July 10 2014 02:35 Faust852 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:34 Shellshock wrote:On July 10 2014 02:32 Faust852 wrote:
I really wonder why SuNo is still teamless. This guy is a true monster. yeah seems weird. At this point I'd have to guess it's something like looking for foreign travel and/or asking for too much money which teams aren't looking to give him. all speculation though If I was rich I would creat a team with sC, SuNo, theSTC and Keen.
If I was rich I'd pay someone to photoshop Sniper's victory face over the various sports tragedies of the world. Like 7-1.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On July 10 2014 02:36 Rain.100 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:31 JimmiC wrote:On July 10 2014 02:26 TotalBiscuit wrote:
I guess maybe next time we should pick up a new player 1 day before the playoffs. apparently it works pretty well. My guys playing like idiots doesn't help matters either Pure class especially when its heavy weights like sjaak for a team that just recently lost dear and vortix.
They kicked Dear, they didn't lose him.
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United States23455 Posts
On July 10 2014 02:36 Jono7272 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:34 Darkhorse wrote:On July 10 2014 02:33 Jono7272 wrote:On July 10 2014 02:29 Darkhorse wrote:On July 10 2014 02:27 Faefae wrote:On July 10 2014 02:26 Aeromi wrote:
I hope we will not see drama about mousesports and Axiom. Why would we? Well tbh picking up 2 players only a few days before the playoffs seems kinda BS. Those are the tourney rules though so I won't complain. In most sports it wouldn't be that unusual.. Really? I dunno much about non-American sports, but the NHL, NBA, MLB, NFL all have trade deadlines so you can't pick up players right before the playoffs. So I disagree with that. Well non-american sports are less likely to have "playoffs".
I am a noob in the matters of non-American sports so I will certainly take your word for it! :D
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On July 10 2014 02:36 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:35 Faust852 wrote:On July 10 2014 02:34 Shellshock wrote:On July 10 2014 02:32 Faust852 wrote:
I really wonder why SuNo is still teamless. This guy is a true monster. yeah seems weird. At this point I'd have to guess it's something like looking for foreign travel and/or asking for too much money which teams aren't looking to give him. all speculation though If I was rich I would creat a team with sC, SuNo, theSTC, Keen and Alive -hipsterterran Wouldn't you have to pay off the Korean military with your richness to get theStC back? Thanks for including aLive btw
I don't care i'd wait for 2 years to pick him.
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There was a deadline. mouz was just allowed to pick up 2 new players because Dear and VortiX left and they couldn't compete otherwise. And I'd argue that Majestic and Sjaak are not better than Dear and VortiX.
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United States23455 Posts
On July 10 2014 02:36 Rain.100 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:31 JimmiC wrote:On July 10 2014 02:26 TotalBiscuit wrote:
I guess maybe next time we should pick up a new player 1 day before the playoffs. apparently it works pretty well. My guys playing like idiots doesn't help matters either Pure class especially when its heavy weights like sjaak for a team that just recently lost dear and vortix.
Clearly Sjaak is pulling some heavy weight here :D
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On July 10 2014 02:37 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:36 Jono7272 wrote:On July 10 2014 02:34 Darkhorse wrote:On July 10 2014 02:33 Jono7272 wrote:On July 10 2014 02:29 Darkhorse wrote:On July 10 2014 02:27 Faefae wrote:On July 10 2014 02:26 Aeromi wrote:
I hope we will not see drama about mousesports and Axiom. Why would we? Well tbh picking up 2 players only a few days before the playoffs seems kinda BS. Those are the tourney rules though so I won't complain. In most sports it wouldn't be that unusual.. Really? I dunno much about non-American sports, but the NHL, NBA, MLB, NFL all have trade deadlines so you can't pick up players right before the playoffs. So I disagree with that. Well non-american sports are less likely to have "playoffs". I am a noob in the matters of non-American sports so I will certainly take your word for it! :D
I'm mainly just thinking about Football (soccer) where transfers and loans are quite frequent.
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On July 10 2014 02:38 Jono7272 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:37 Darkhorse wrote:On July 10 2014 02:36 Jono7272 wrote:On July 10 2014 02:34 Darkhorse wrote:On July 10 2014 02:33 Jono7272 wrote:On July 10 2014 02:29 Darkhorse wrote:On July 10 2014 02:27 Faefae wrote:On July 10 2014 02:26 Aeromi wrote:
I hope we will not see drama about mousesports and Axiom. Why would we? Well tbh picking up 2 players only a few days before the playoffs seems kinda BS. Those are the tourney rules though so I won't complain. In most sports it wouldn't be that unusual.. Really? I dunno much about non-American sports, but the NHL, NBA, MLB, NFL all have trade deadlines so you can't pick up players right before the playoffs. So I disagree with that. Well non-american sports are less likely to have "playoffs". I am a noob in the matters of non-American sports so I will certainly take your word for it! :D I'm mainly just thinking about Football (soccer) where transfers and loans are quite frequent.
there are two defined period and deadlines in soccer + rules way harsher than anything in sc2.
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United States23455 Posts
On July 10 2014 02:38 nanosystem wrote:
There was a deadline. mouz was just allowed to pick up 2 new players because Dear and VortiX left and they couldn't compete otherwise. And I'd argue that Majestic and Sjaak are not better than Dear and VortiX.
That is what we like to call a "safe argument"
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kinda sad axiom cant lose another clanwar for a 3rd excuse after shitty format and last minute transfers. maybe all axiom players brazil fans and take clearly intended to set the playoffs 1 day after the loss yesterday to demoralize them.
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I'm sorry for TB because Ax players aren't really playing well today.
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On July 10 2014 02:38 nanosystem wrote:
There was a deadline. mouz was just allowed to pick up 2 new players because Dear and VortiX left and they couldn't compete otherwise. And I'd argue that Majestic and Sjaak are not better than Dear and VortiX.
They kicked Dear in APRIL. They had plenty of time to get a new player before signing them one day before the playoffs.
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United States23455 Posts
On July 10 2014 02:40 Rain.100 wrote:
kinda sad axiom cant lose another clanwar for a 3rd excuse after shitty format and last minute transfers. maybe all axiom players brazil fans and take clearly intended to set the playoffs 1 day after the loss yesterday to demoralize them.
This post makes very little grammatical or logical sense.
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Sjaak is actually playing really well haha
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On July 10 2014 02:41 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:40 Rain.100 wrote:
kinda sad axiom cant lose another clanwar for a 3rd excuse after shitty format and last minute transfers. maybe all axiom players brazil fans and take clearly intended to set the playoffs 1 day after the loss yesterday to demoralize them. This post makes very little grammatical or logical sense.
even after reading it the fourth time, i can confirm darkhorse's statement
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On July 10 2014 02:39 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:38 Jono7272 wrote:On July 10 2014 02:37 Darkhorse wrote:On July 10 2014 02:36 Jono7272 wrote:On July 10 2014 02:34 Darkhorse wrote:On July 10 2014 02:33 Jono7272 wrote:On July 10 2014 02:29 Darkhorse wrote:On July 10 2014 02:27 Faefae wrote:On July 10 2014 02:26 Aeromi wrote:
I hope we will not see drama about mousesports and Axiom. Why would we? Well tbh picking up 2 players only a few days before the playoffs seems kinda BS. Those are the tourney rules though so I won't complain. In most sports it wouldn't be that unusual.. Really? I dunno much about non-American sports, but the NHL, NBA, MLB, NFL all have trade deadlines so you can't pick up players right before the playoffs. So I disagree with that. Well non-american sports are less likely to have "playoffs". I am a noob in the matters of non-American sports so I will certainly take your word for it! :D I'm mainly just thinking about Football (soccer) where transfers and loans are quite frequent. there are two defined period and deadlines in soccer + rules way harsher than anything in sc2.
There's work arounds with loans etc.
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On July 10 2014 02:41 Josh_Video wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:38 nanosystem wrote:
There was a deadline. mouz was just allowed to pick up 2 new players because Dear and VortiX left and they couldn't compete otherwise. And I'd argue that Majestic and Sjaak are not better than Dear and VortiX. They kicked Dear in APRIL. They had plenty of time to get a new player before signing them one day before the playoffs.
Still, I don't think anyone can complain about facing Sjaak and Majestic and instead of Dear and Vortix. The only other option was for them to forfeit and drop out of the league with only 3 players, so I'm glad we get to see games instead of walkovers in the playoffs.
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United States97276 Posts
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Sjaak is just stomping Crank rofl.
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On July 10 2014 02:44 Jono7272 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:39 sAsImre wrote:On July 10 2014 02:38 Jono7272 wrote:On July 10 2014 02:37 Darkhorse wrote:On July 10 2014 02:36 Jono7272 wrote:On July 10 2014 02:34 Darkhorse wrote:On July 10 2014 02:33 Jono7272 wrote:On July 10 2014 02:29 Darkhorse wrote:On July 10 2014 02:27 Faefae wrote:On July 10 2014 02:26 Aeromi wrote:
I hope we will not see drama about mousesports and Axiom. Why would we? Well tbh picking up 2 players only a few days before the playoffs seems kinda BS. Those are the tourney rules though so I won't complain. In most sports it wouldn't be that unusual.. Really? I dunno much about non-American sports, but the NHL, NBA, MLB, NFL all have trade deadlines so you can't pick up players right before the playoffs. So I disagree with that. Well non-american sports are less likely to have "playoffs". I am a noob in the matters of non-American sports so I will certainly take your word for it! :D I'm mainly just thinking about Football (soccer) where transfers and loans are quite frequent. there are two defined period and deadlines in soccer + rules way harsher than anything in sc2. There's work arounds with loans etc.
with uncontracted players and that's all.
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When I picked up Sjaak for ECV I knew he was pretty sick but I never knew that he would get this insane in a half year :o
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sjaak is love, sjaak is life
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This is really messy.
If Sjaak all-kills Axiom....
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wow sjaak is really impressive !! Last DH was no fluke
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United States23455 Posts
Wow. When can he try out WCS?
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Haha oh dear, Axiom getting destroyed by Sjaak
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Jeez that was painful at the end there. Well played by Sjaak though
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TotalBiscuit please slap Crank also.
That was pathetic.
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Northern Ireland26094 Posts
Shit man Sjaak just demolished Crank there
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whaaaaaaaaaaat did i just see, crank crumbling under the foreigner pressure
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haha wtf Sjaak, "komplette Vernichtung" seems fitting Take
Complete Axiom (self)destruction.
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On July 10 2014 02:46 Darkhorse wrote:
Wow. When can he try out WCS?
when he's 16 :p
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On July 10 2014 02:46 Darkhorse wrote:
Wow. When can he try out WCS?
Next qualifiers I believe.
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oh my ... this kid is insane !
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Haha. This is amazing and about to reach Brazil level of embarrassing :D + Show Spoiler +
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On July 10 2014 02:46 Darkhorse wrote:
Wow. When can he try out WCS?
WCS EU qualifiers start tomorrow and he's still 15 till the end of next month, so next year
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So Sjaak is like the Protoss Scarlett or something. Comes out of nowhere and is just gonna be good.
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On July 10 2014 02:46 Darkhorse wrote:
Wow. When can he try out WCS?
He can play tomorrow I think, since he turns 16 before WCS starts. Which is quite nice, because it means, even if GoOdy and co. play EPS, I get someone to cheer for.
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United States23455 Posts
On July 10 2014 02:47 Ansinjunger wrote:
So Sjaak is like the Protoss Scarlett or something. Comes out of nowhere and is just gonna be good.
"Protoss Scarlett" is kind of redundant
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On July 10 2014 02:46 NervO wrote:
When I picked up Sjaak for ECV I knew he was pretty sick but I never knew that he would get this insane in a half year :o
Great eye for talent, what a story!
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Sjaak may indeed be Inca reborn.
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On July 10 2014 02:47 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:47 Ansinjunger wrote:
So Sjaak is like the Protoss Scarlett or something. Comes out of nowhere and is just gonna be good. "Protoss Scarlett" is kind of redundant
Got 'em
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United States97276 Posts
On July 10 2014 02:47 stuchiu wrote:
Sjaak may indeed be Inca reborn.
except good
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On July 10 2014 02:47 Ansinjunger wrote:
So Sjaak is like the Protoss Scarlett or something. Comes out of nowhere and is just gonna be good.
Scarlett is the Protoss Scarlett.
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On July 10 2014 02:46 Pino wrote:
wow sjaak is really impressive !! Last DH was no fluke
Clearly.
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I thought Sjaak was just a cheesy player, but he played really well that game. Too bad I didn't get to see his previous games.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On July 10 2014 02:48 Shellshock wrote:except good
Inca died so that Sjaak could make 100 gas dark shrines.
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He looks so relaxed .
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France7248 Posts
well that's embarrassing for Axiom :/
kinda remind me Ignite all-killing EG :x
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TB u mad bro ?
User was warned for this post
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On July 10 2014 02:47 Xoronius wrote:He can play tomorrow I think, since he turns 16 before WCS starts. Which is quite nice, because it means, even if GoOdy and co. play EPS, I get someone to cheer for.
But he turns 16 on August 23. I think WCS EU starts before that
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United States23455 Posts
Has Sjaak built a third nexus yet though? Serious question, I think doing two base pushes is justified after he gets ahead early.
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On July 10 2014 02:49 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:47 Xoronius wrote:On July 10 2014 02:46 Darkhorse wrote:
Wow. When can he try out WCS? He can play tomorrow I think, since he turns 16 before WCS starts. Which is quite nice, because it means, even if GoOdy and co. play EPS, I get someone to cheer for. But he turns 16 on August 23. I think WCS EU starts before that
Well, the online critical part would be premier ro16, since that is the first part, which is played offline.
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Who's the last player for Axiom, Alicia?
I think he can do it!
On July 10 2014 02:50 Darkhorse wrote:
Has Sjaak built a third nexus yet though? Serious question, I think doing two base pushes is justified after he gets ahead early.
Yeah vs Ryung at least.
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On July 10 2014 02:50 Darkhorse wrote:
Has Sjaak built a third nexus yet though? Serious question, I think doing two base pushes is justified after he gets ahead early.
He built 5 against Ryung
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On July 10 2014 02:48 Shellshock wrote:except good
if he does anything close to a GSL final he would be a foreigner god
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On July 10 2014 02:47 Lorning wrote:WCS EU qualifiers start tomorrow and he's still 15 till the end of next month, so next year
can you link qualifiers?
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On July 10 2014 02:49 ESC FeaR wrote:
TB u mad bro ?
I mean it is pretty damn obvious that he is disappointed by his players for performing the way they are.
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United States23455 Posts
On July 10 2014 02:50 DJHelium wrote:
Who's the last player for Axiom, Alicia?
I think he can do it!
Yeah the hilarious thing is that Alicia can still turn this around.
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The funny thing is Axiom could still win since al of their players have the ability to reverse this
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On July 10 2014 02:41 Josh_Video wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:38 nanosystem wrote:
There was a deadline. mouz was just allowed to pick up 2 new players because Dear and VortiX left and they couldn't compete otherwise. And I'd argue that Majestic and Sjaak are not better than Dear and VortiX. They kicked Dear in APRIL. They had plenty of time to get a new player before signing them one day before the playoffs.
If Vortix didnt leave mouz, they were able to competing without new players.
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On July 10 2014 02:50 D-light wrote:I mean it is pretty damn obvious that he is disappointed by his players for performing the way they are.
Chemo, radiation, my team apparently forgetting how to play Starcraft, shitty people in the LR thread, this has just been one awful week so far.
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United States23455 Posts
On July 10 2014 02:50 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:50 Darkhorse wrote:
Has Sjaak built a third nexus yet though? Serious question, I think doing two base pushes is justified after he gets ahead early. He built 5 against Ryung
Ah that was the one game I missed. And I missed his games against Liquid as well so I was just wondering.
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On July 10 2014 02:50 Darkhorse wrote:
Has Sjaak built a third nexus yet though? Serious question, I think doing two base pushes is justified after he gets ahead early.
He did build one his first game.
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On July 10 2014 02:50 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:49 Lorning wrote:On July 10 2014 02:47 Xoronius wrote:On July 10 2014 02:46 Darkhorse wrote:
Wow. When can he try out WCS? He can play tomorrow I think, since he turns 16 before WCS starts. Which is quite nice, because it means, even if GoOdy and co. play EPS, I get someone to cheer for. But he turns 16 on August 23. I think WCS EU starts before that Well, the online critical part would be premier ro16, since that is the first part, which is played offline.
The qualifier page says you need to be 16 tho
http://www.esl.eu/eu/sc2/wcs/2014season3_challenger_qualifier1/leagueinfo/
But it could be wrong
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/xWceC5R.png)
Getting ready for that race switch boys
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Northern Ireland26094 Posts
The games I've seen him letting up and taking a 3rd might have cost him. His openers and the flow of the game gave him good opportunities to hit two base timings, which he duly obliged in doing.
Vs Heart for example a 2 base Collosus push was a good move after killing the Starport's Reactor
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United States23455 Posts
On July 10 2014 02:49 ESC FeaR wrote:
TB u mad bro ?
What an eloquent fourth post
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On July 10 2014 02:52 Darkhorse wrote:What an eloquent fourth post
Darkhoarse, u mad bro?
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United States23455 Posts
On July 10 2014 02:52 Wombat_NI wrote:
The games I've seen him letting up and taking a 3rd might have cost him. His openers and the flow of the game gave him good opportunities to hit two base timings, which he duly obliged in doing.
Vs Heart for example a 2 base Collosus push was a good move after killing the Starport's Reactor
Oh yeah for sure. I don't think he has been wrong for not building a third, I was just wondering.
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France7248 Posts
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On July 10 2014 02:52 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:Getting ready for that race switch boys
just don't let inno start tomorrow please :D
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On July 10 2014 02:52 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:Getting ready for that race switch boys
And now everybody knows which barcode you are.
You done goofed.
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On July 10 2014 02:52 Darkhorse wrote:What an eloquent fourth post
Maybe he could apply for that TL writer job
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On July 10 2014 02:51 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:50 Xoronius wrote:On July 10 2014 02:49 Lorning wrote:On July 10 2014 02:47 Xoronius wrote:On July 10 2014 02:46 Darkhorse wrote:
Wow. When can he try out WCS? He can play tomorrow I think, since he turns 16 before WCS starts. Which is quite nice, because it means, even if GoOdy and co. play EPS, I get someone to cheer for. But he turns 16 on August 23. I think WCS EU starts before that Well, the online critical part would be premier ro16, since that is the first part, which is played offline. The qualifier page says you need to be 16 tho http://www.esl.eu/eu/sc2/wcs/2014season3_challenger_qualifier1/leagueinfo/But it could be wrong
Ok :o Thx! WAs just about the qualifiers! Not about teh age
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On July 10 2014 02:52 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:Getting ready for that race switch boys
ohhhhhhhhhh yeah, right when they start to think about nerfing toss.
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On July 10 2014 02:51 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:50 Xoronius wrote:On July 10 2014 02:49 Lorning wrote:On July 10 2014 02:47 Xoronius wrote:On July 10 2014 02:46 Darkhorse wrote:
Wow. When can he try out WCS? He can play tomorrow I think, since he turns 16 before WCS starts. Which is quite nice, because it means, even if GoOdy and co. play EPS, I get someone to cheer for. But he turns 16 on August 23. I think WCS EU starts before that Well, the online critical part would be premier ro16, since that is the first part, which is played offline. The qualifier page says you need to be 16 tho http://www.esl.eu/eu/sc2/wcs/2014season3_challenger_qualifier1/leagueinfo/But it could be wrong
Yes, I know, but I think that is due to 16 year olds and under are not allowed to work past 22:00 in germany, so they can't play offline in germany. I'm not sure, how excatly the rules are either, I just heard someone saying that about Sjaak somewere.
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On July 10 2014 02:53 Faefae wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:52 Darkhorse wrote:On July 10 2014 02:49 ESC FeaR wrote:
TB u mad bro ? What an eloquent fourth post Maybe he could apply for that TL writer job
Well I made it so anything is possible I suppose.
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On July 10 2014 02:52 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:Getting ready for that race switch boys
LOL. What a week! This is one epic match!
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On July 10 2014 02:52 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:Getting ready for that race switch boys
KR server of course?
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On July 10 2014 02:52 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:Getting ready for that race switch boys
Scarlett All-kills everyone in ATC with toss. You heard it here second.
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On July 10 2014 02:53 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:51 Lorning wrote:On July 10 2014 02:50 Xoronius wrote:On July 10 2014 02:49 Lorning wrote:On July 10 2014 02:47 Xoronius wrote:On July 10 2014 02:46 Darkhorse wrote:
Wow. When can he try out WCS? He can play tomorrow I think, since he turns 16 before WCS starts. Which is quite nice, because it means, even if GoOdy and co. play EPS, I get someone to cheer for. But he turns 16 on August 23. I think WCS EU starts before that Well, the online critical part would be premier ro16, since that is the first part, which is played offline. The qualifier page says you need to be 16 tho http://www.esl.eu/eu/sc2/wcs/2014season3_challenger_qualifier1/leagueinfo/But it could be wrong Yes, I know, but I think that is due to 16 year olds and under, are not allowed to work past 22:00 in germany, so they can't play offline in germany. I'm not sure, how excatly the rules are either, I just heard someone saying that about Sjaak somewere.
Oh, ok. I really hope he can play
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On July 10 2014 02:52 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:Getting ready for that race switch boys
I want to see P in the finals .
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On July 10 2014 02:52 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:52 Darkhorse wrote:On July 10 2014 02:49 ESC FeaR wrote:
TB u mad bro ? What an eloquent fourth post Darkhoarse, u mad bro?
Hella mad, brah.
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On July 10 2014 02:51 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:50 D-light wrote:On July 10 2014 02:49 ESC FeaR wrote:
TB u mad bro ? I mean it is pretty damn obvious that he is disappointed by his players for performing the way they are. Chemo, radiation, my team apparently forgetting how to play Starcraft, shitty people in the LR thread, this has just been one awful week so far.
Maybe it's just my rosy view of the world but I think LR threads have been less shitty recently than they have been in the past 2 weeks or so.
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On July 10 2014 02:53 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:52 Wombat_NI wrote:
The games I've seen him letting up and taking a 3rd might have cost him. His openers and the flow of the game gave him good opportunities to hit two base timings, which he duly obliged in doing.
Vs Heart for example a 2 base Collosus push was a good move after killing the Starport's Reactor Oh yeah for sure. I don't think he has been wrong for not building a third, I was just wondering.
He's clearly no disciple of Artosis and his famous rules-of-thumb.
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United States97276 Posts
Scarlett practiced the 7 gate 265 times?
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On July 10 2014 02:55 Shellshock wrote:
Scarlett practiced the 7 gate 265 times?
considering harstem does his pvz build in his pvt ladder might be possible :D
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On July 10 2014 02:54 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:51 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 10 2014 02:50 D-light wrote:On July 10 2014 02:49 ESC FeaR wrote:
TB u mad bro ? I mean it is pretty damn obvious that he is disappointed by his players for performing the way they are. Chemo, radiation, my team apparently forgetting how to play Starcraft, shitty people in the LR thread, this has just been one awful week so far. Maybe it's just my rosy view of the world but I think LR threads have been less shitty recently than they have been in the past 2 weeks or so.
Maybe it's because I'm posting more cause my finals are done
Yeah, it's most definitely that
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On July 10 2014 02:52 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:Getting ready for that race switch boys
Please yes
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On July 10 2014 02:54 JimmiC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:32 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 10 2014 02:31 JimmiC wrote:On July 10 2014 02:26 TotalBiscuit wrote:
I guess maybe next time we should pick up a new player 1 day before the playoffs. apparently it works pretty well. My guys playing like idiots doesn't help matters either Pure class You would prefer I lie? Our guys are playing the worst starcraft I have seen from them in ages and I disagree with those decision to allow mouz to recruit 1 day before the playoffs. As usual, community wants transparency but only when it is about something they already agree with. Just Classic TB. Stiring shit up for the sake of it. At least in the past you were not insulting your teammates. I hope there comes a time when people are sick of your BS, and see it a a poorly executed shtick. But time will tell.
I wish radiation would get rid of you.
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Scarlett are you playing macro or doing all ins?
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On July 10 2014 02:46 Darkhorse wrote:
Wow. When can he try out WCS?
Tomorow
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Scarlett for the love of god don't switch to toss. There's too many of them already
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On July 10 2014 02:56 Tidus Mino wrote:Tomorow
Great
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Northern Ireland26094 Posts
What's to stop a Sjaak or other under-16 players to play during the online phase? Would be invaluable experience even if they're barred for the offline portion? I'd assume they can't sign up perhaps?
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On July 09 2014 10:37 TotalBiscuit wrote:
[...] and we're focused on Acer who are by far the strongest opponents in the playoffs.
legit strategy ... I guess UK's soccer team prepared themself only für Brazil aswell ...
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On July 10 2014 02:54 JimmiC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:32 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 10 2014 02:31 JimmiC wrote:On July 10 2014 02:26 TotalBiscuit wrote:
I guess maybe next time we should pick up a new player 1 day before the playoffs. apparently it works pretty well. My guys playing like idiots doesn't help matters either Pure class You would prefer I lie? Our guys are playing the worst starcraft I have seen from them in ages and I disagree with those decision to allow mouz to recruit 1 day before the playoffs. As usual, community wants transparency but only when it is about something they already agree with. Just Classic TB. Stiring shit up for the sake of it. At least in the past you were not insulting your teammates. I hope there comes a time when people are sick of your BS, and see it a a poorly executed shtick. But time will tell.
The first rule of LR threads is you don't talk about LR threads
The second rule of LR threads is you don't talk about LR threads
Rule 5 or something is don't flame TB
I could make a Princess Bride reference a la "never duel a sicilian when death is on the line! hahahahahahaha!" but I am lazy today.
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Would have been nice if they removed reviving players for the playoffs, would add more excitement to each match imo.
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On July 10 2014 02:56 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:54 Darkhorse wrote:On July 10 2014 02:51 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 10 2014 02:50 D-light wrote:On July 10 2014 02:49 ESC FeaR wrote:
TB u mad bro ? I mean it is pretty damn obvious that he is disappointed by his players for performing the way they are. Chemo, radiation, my team apparently forgetting how to play Starcraft, shitty people in the LR thread, this has just been one awful week so far. Maybe it's just my rosy view of the world but I think LR threads have been less shitty recently than they have been in the past 2 weeks or so. Maybe it's because I'm posting more cause my finals are done Yeah, it's most definitely that
Oh god, I'll stop going in proleague threads now I guess
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On July 10 2014 02:57 Esto wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 10:37 TotalBiscuit wrote:
[...] and we're focused on Acer who are by far the strongest opponents in the playoffs. legit strategy ... I guess UK's soccer team prepared themself only für Brazil aswell ...
you misspelled germany
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On July 10 2014 02:57 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:54 JimmiC wrote:On July 10 2014 02:32 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 10 2014 02:31 JimmiC wrote:On July 10 2014 02:26 TotalBiscuit wrote:
I guess maybe next time we should pick up a new player 1 day before the playoffs. apparently it works pretty well. My guys playing like idiots doesn't help matters either Pure class You would prefer I lie? Our guys are playing the worst starcraft I have seen from them in ages and I disagree with those decision to allow mouz to recruit 1 day before the playoffs. As usual, community wants transparency but only when it is about something they already agree with. Just Classic TB. Stiring shit up for the sake of it. At least in the past you were not insulting your teammates. I hope there comes a time when people are sick of your BS, and see it a a poorly executed shtick. But time will tell. The first rule of LR threads is you don't talk about LR threads The second rule of LR threads is you don't talk about LR threads Rule 5 or something is don't flame TB I could make a Princess Bride reference a la "never duel a sicilian when death is on the line! hahahahahahaha!" but I am lazy today.
Second rule is "Going off-topic is mandatory"
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On July 10 2014 02:57 Esto wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 10:37 TotalBiscuit wrote:
[...] and we're focused on Acer who are by far the strongest opponents in the playoffs. legit strategy ... I guess UK's soccer team prepared themself only für Brazil aswell ...
Well if Brazil was their first opponent they probably would have...
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On July 10 2014 02:56 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:54 JimmiC wrote:On July 10 2014 02:32 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 10 2014 02:31 JimmiC wrote:On July 10 2014 02:26 TotalBiscuit wrote:
I guess maybe next time we should pick up a new player 1 day before the playoffs. apparently it works pretty well. My guys playing like idiots doesn't help matters either Pure class You would prefer I lie? Our guys are playing the worst starcraft I have seen from them in ages and I disagree with those decision to allow mouz to recruit 1 day before the playoffs. As usual, community wants transparency but only when it is about something they already agree with. Just Classic TB. Stiring shit up for the sake of it. At least in the past you were not insulting your teammates. I hope there comes a time when people are sick of your BS, and see it a a poorly executed shtick. But time will tell. I wish radiation would get rid of you.
Just admit it, TB. Avilo was right. You must really be loving protoss at the moment.
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On July 10 2014 02:57 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:56 Lorning wrote:On July 10 2014 02:54 Darkhorse wrote:On July 10 2014 02:51 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 10 2014 02:50 D-light wrote:On July 10 2014 02:49 ESC FeaR wrote:
TB u mad bro ? I mean it is pretty damn obvious that he is disappointed by his players for performing the way they are. Chemo, radiation, my team apparently forgetting how to play Starcraft, shitty people in the LR thread, this has just been one awful week so far. Maybe it's just my rosy view of the world but I think LR threads have been less shitty recently than they have been in the past 2 weeks or so. Maybe it's because I'm posting more cause my finals are done Yeah, it's most definitely that Oh god, I'll stop going in proleague threads now I guess
Awww
But we have such good chemistry!
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On July 10 2014 02:51 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:50 D-light wrote:On July 10 2014 02:49 ESC FeaR wrote:
TB u mad bro ? I mean it is pretty damn obvious that he is disappointed by his players for performing the way they are. Chemo, radiation, my team apparently forgetting how to play Starcraft, shitty people in the LR thread, this has just been one awful week so far.
I hope you had nice birthday at least and hey, it can only get better now and I'm sure it will .
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On July 10 2014 02:58 johnbongham wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:56 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 10 2014 02:54 JimmiC wrote:On July 10 2014 02:32 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 10 2014 02:31 JimmiC wrote:On July 10 2014 02:26 TotalBiscuit wrote:
I guess maybe next time we should pick up a new player 1 day before the playoffs. apparently it works pretty well. My guys playing like idiots doesn't help matters either Pure class You would prefer I lie? Our guys are playing the worst starcraft I have seen from them in ages and I disagree with those decision to allow mouz to recruit 1 day before the playoffs. As usual, community wants transparency but only when it is about something they already agree with. Just Classic TB. Stiring shit up for the sake of it. At least in the past you were not insulting your teammates. I hope there comes a time when people are sick of your BS, and see it a a poorly executed shtick. But time will tell. I wish radiation would get rid of you. Just admit it, TB. Avilo was right. You must really be loving protoss at the moment.
he has 2 really good P in his team. just the fact axiom players are going full foreigner every game that it sad.
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On July 10 2014 02:59 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:57 Yorkie wrote:On July 10 2014 02:56 Lorning wrote:On July 10 2014 02:54 Darkhorse wrote:On July 10 2014 02:51 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 10 2014 02:50 D-light wrote:On July 10 2014 02:49 ESC FeaR wrote:
TB u mad bro ? I mean it is pretty damn obvious that he is disappointed by his players for performing the way they are. Chemo, radiation, my team apparently forgetting how to play Starcraft, shitty people in the LR thread, this has just been one awful week so far. Maybe it's just my rosy view of the world but I think LR threads have been less shitty recently than they have been in the past 2 weeks or so. Maybe it's because I'm posting more cause my finals are done Yeah, it's most definitely that Oh god, I'll stop going in proleague threads now I guess Awww But we have such good chemistry!
Since neither Prime nor STIM are in the playoffs we can work it out
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On July 10 2014 02:56 Tidus Mino wrote:Tomorow
Great to hear.
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Thank fuck for that widow mine. Come on Ryung.
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On July 10 2014 02:59 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:51 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 10 2014 02:50 D-light wrote:On July 10 2014 02:49 ESC FeaR wrote:
TB u mad bro ? I mean it is pretty damn obvious that he is disappointed by his players for performing the way they are. Chemo, radiation, my team apparently forgetting how to play Starcraft, shitty people in the LR thread, this has just been one awful week so far. I hope you had nice birthday at least and hey, it can only get better now and I'm sure it will .
No it was absolutely terrible, just like the rest of this week. Shitheads like Jim for Canada are only making it worse.
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On July 10 2014 02:57 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:54 JimmiC wrote:On July 10 2014 02:32 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 10 2014 02:31 JimmiC wrote:On July 10 2014 02:26 TotalBiscuit wrote:
I guess maybe next time we should pick up a new player 1 day before the playoffs. apparently it works pretty well. My guys playing like idiots doesn't help matters either Pure class You would prefer I lie? Our guys are playing the worst starcraft I have seen from them in ages and I disagree with those decision to allow mouz to recruit 1 day before the playoffs. As usual, community wants transparency but only when it is about something they already agree with. Just Classic TB. Stiring shit up for the sake of it. At least in the past you were not insulting your teammates. I hope there comes a time when people are sick of your BS, and see it a a poorly executed shtick. But time will tell. The first rule of LR threads is you don't talk about LR threads The second rule of LR threads is you don't talk about LR threads Rule 5 or something is don't flame TB I could make a Princess Bride reference a la "never duel a sicilian when death is on the line! hahahahahahaha!" but I am lazy today.
3. rule: TB is never wrong and TL rules don't apply to him
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That storm is going to get so sniped.
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On July 10 2014 03:00 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:59 Musicus wrote:On July 10 2014 02:51 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 10 2014 02:50 D-light wrote:On July 10 2014 02:49 ESC FeaR wrote:
TB u mad bro ? I mean it is pretty damn obvious that he is disappointed by his players for performing the way they are. Chemo, radiation, my team apparently forgetting how to play Starcraft, shitty people in the LR thread, this has just been one awful week so far. I hope you had nice birthday at least and hey, it can only get better now and I'm sure it will . No it was absolutely terrible, just like the rest of this week, but at least I know I can't rely on the community for any support during a rough time. Better to know and not be disappointed than to expected it and be let down.
Ok come ON. A few people made shitty posts here and "the community" doesn't support you? The vast majority of people support you! Read through the thread that was here for supportive messages! Here is a supportive message: I hope you get better soon and are cancer free and happy again soon!
The people being shitty to you are a vocal minority.
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i just wish that Ryung wins this game for Axiom. I feel so bad for TB right now.
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On July 10 2014 03:02 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:00 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 10 2014 02:59 Musicus wrote:On July 10 2014 02:51 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 10 2014 02:50 D-light wrote:On July 10 2014 02:49 ESC FeaR wrote:
TB u mad bro ? I mean it is pretty damn obvious that he is disappointed by his players for performing the way they are. Chemo, radiation, my team apparently forgetting how to play Starcraft, shitty people in the LR thread, this has just been one awful week so far. I hope you had nice birthday at least and hey, it can only get better now and I'm sure it will . No it was absolutely terrible, just like the rest of this week, but at least I know I can't rely on the community for any support during a rough time. Better to know and not be disappointed than to expected it and be let down. Ok come ON. A few people made shitty posts here and "the community" doesn't support you? The vast majority of people support you! Read through the thread that was here for supportive messages! Here is a supportive message: I hope you get better soon and are cancer free and happy again soon! The people being shitty to you are a vocal minority.
I was about to say the same.. but a reasonable edit was made haha.
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On July 10 2014 03:03 Luolis wrote:i just wish that Ryung wins this game for Axiom. I feel so bad for TB right now.
Ryung quadrakill please.
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Why didnt wm target the first stalker? It did hit the second stalker.
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On July 10 2014 03:00 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:59 Musicus wrote:On July 10 2014 02:51 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 10 2014 02:50 D-light wrote:On July 10 2014 02:49 ESC FeaR wrote:
TB u mad bro ? I mean it is pretty damn obvious that he is disappointed by his players for performing the way they are. Chemo, radiation, my team apparently forgetting how to play Starcraft, shitty people in the LR thread, this has just been one awful week so far. I hope you had nice birthday at least and hey, it can only get better now and I'm sure it will . No it was absolutely terrible, just like the rest of this week, but at least I know I can't rely on the community for any support during a rough time. Better to know and not be disappointed than to expected it and be let down.
now i don't think that's totally fair. i think that most people have been trying to be as supportive as possible. You can't shit on the team league format, mouz signing new players in order to compete, AND just generally calling your players bad and not expect any repercussions.
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On July 10 2014 03:03 Luolis wrote:i just wish that Ryung wins this game for Axiom. I feel so bad for TB right now.
Nah, I don't feel bad at all that his team full of legit korean pros is getting crushed by a 16 year old protoss. In fact, I find it quite fitting.
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SCVs against archons not a pretty sight to see.
On July 10 2014 03:02 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:00 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 10 2014 02:59 Musicus wrote:On July 10 2014 02:51 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 10 2014 02:50 D-light wrote:On July 10 2014 02:49 ESC FeaR wrote:
TB u mad bro ? I mean it is pretty damn obvious that he is disappointed by his players for performing the way they are. Chemo, radiation, my team apparently forgetting how to play Starcraft, shitty people in the LR thread, this has just been one awful week so far. I hope you had nice birthday at least and hey, it can only get better now and I'm sure it will . No it was absolutely terrible, just like the rest of this week, but at least I know I can't rely on the community for any support during a rough time. Better to know and not be disappointed than to expected it and be let down. Ok come ON. A few people made shitty posts here and "the community" doesn't support you? The vast majority of people support you! Read through the thread that was here for supportive messages! Here is a supportive message: I hope you get better soon and are cancer free and happy again soon! The people being shitty to you are a vocal minority.
People just tend to remember the few bad things said about you rather than the many good ones.
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On July 10 2014 03:04 johnbongham wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:03 Luolis wrote:i just wish that Ryung wins this game for Axiom. I feel so bad for TB right now. Nah, I don't feel bad at all that his team full of legit korean pros is getting crushed by a 16 year old protoss. In fact, I find it quite fitting.
Sounds balanced
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On July 10 2014 03:04 johnbongham wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:03 Luolis wrote:i just wish that Ryung wins this game for Axiom. I feel so bad for TB right now. Nah, I don't feel bad at all that his team full of legit korean pros is getting crushed by a 16 year old protoss. In fact, I find it quite fitting.
Why is it fitting? I agree that it's entertaining and I'm happy for Sjaak - he seemed like a cool guy when I talked to him at DH - but why fitting?
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Okay the world is back to normal. Ryung's got this
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On July 10 2014 03:04 johnbongham wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:03 Luolis wrote:i just wish that Ryung wins this game for Axiom. I feel so bad for TB right now. getting crushed by a 16 year old protoss.
This is the saddest part imo
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On July 10 2014 03:04 johnbongham wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:03 Luolis wrote:i just wish that Ryung wins this game for Axiom. I feel so bad for TB right now. Nah, I don't feel bad at all that his team full of legit korean pros is getting crushed by a 16 year old protoss. In fact, I find it quite fitting.
if the 15yo had the ability to get a 3rd without floating 1k5 i'd have some respect for him.
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You can't shit on the team league format, mouz signing new players in order to compete, AND just generally calling your players bad and not expect any repercussions.
Yes yes I know, the community only wants honesty when it's what they want to hear. Do you not want humility? You don't want us to admit we're playing badly and that fans should be able to expect and deserve better than this?
What the fuck do you want? It's been 4 years and I still can't figure out what it is the community actually wants from a teamowner, since it seems to change on a daily basis. The only rules I've figured out so far are
1) Community knows better than players on balance, do not discuss balance
2) Do not question anything TaKe does because Germany will get mad
3) Don't crowdfund things
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On July 10 2014 03:06 Yorkie wrote:
Okay the world is back to normal. Ryung's got this
he was doing ok on waystation until he lost 11 scvs too.
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That's more like it Ryung!
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Not even Protoss can come back from that disparity.
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Ryung finally remembered how to Starcraft.
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Poor Sjaak
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Those storms were gold league level. Just horrible
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On July 10 2014 03:06 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +You can't shit on the team league format, mouz signing new players in order to compete, AND just generally calling your players bad and not expect any repercussions. Yes yes I know, the community only wants honesty when it's what they want to hear. Do you not want humility? You don't want us to admit we're playing badly and that fans should be able to expect and deserve better than this? What the fuck do you want? It's been 4 years and I still can't figure out what it is the community actually wants from a teamowner, since it seems to change on a daily basis. The only rules I've figured out so far are 1) Community knows better than players on balance, do not discuss balance 2) Do not question anything TaKe does because Germany will get mad 3) Don't crowdfund things
There is a fourth rule I'll teach you:
4) The stupid and aggressive opinions belong to a disproportionately vocal minority in 90% of cases
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Oh hey it looks like they woke up, TB.
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On July 10 2014 03:08 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Those storms were gold league level. Just horrible
I'm gold league and I take offense to that.
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On July 10 2014 03:06 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +You can't shit on the team league format, mouz signing new players in order to compete, AND just generally calling your players bad and not expect any repercussions. Yes yes I know, the community only wants honesty when it's what they want to hear. Do you not want humility? You don't want us to admit we're playing badly and that fans should be able to expect and deserve better than this? What the fuck do you want? It's been 4 years and I still can't figure out what it is the community actually wants from a teamowner, since it seems to change on a daily basis. The only rules I've figured out so far are 1) Community knows better than players on balance, do not discuss balance 2) Do not question anything TaKe does because Germany will get mad 3) Don't crowdfund things
Every time some random guy posts something in an LR thread it is not an accurate representation of what "the community" wants or expects. Honestly we'd all be better off if we started limiting our use of that term
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On July 10 2014 03:06 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:04 johnbongham wrote:On July 10 2014 03:03 Luolis wrote:i just wish that Ryung wins this game for Axiom. I feel so bad for TB right now. Nah, I don't feel bad at all that his team full of legit korean pros is getting crushed by a 16 year old protoss. In fact, I find it quite fitting. Why is it fitting? I agree that it's entertaining and I'm happy for Sjaak - he seemed like a cool guy when I talked to him at DH - but why fitting?
Maybe not fitting, but it is rather surprising and interesting to see a hand picked team of Koreans (known for being the best) are getting beaten by a young foreigner. Well, until now anyway..
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The dream is still alive.
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On July 10 2014 03:07 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Not even Protoss can come back from that disparity.
You are very brave for not choosing the dirty race to get the comeback, but I think Ryung is about to reverse sweep as a belated present.
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On July 10 2014 03:08 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:06 TotalBiscuit wrote:You can't shit on the team league format, mouz signing new players in order to compete, AND just generally calling your players bad and not expect any repercussions. Yes yes I know, the community only wants honesty when it's what they want to hear. Do you not want humility? You don't want us to admit we're playing badly and that fans should be able to expect and deserve better than this? What the fuck do you want? It's been 4 years and I still can't figure out what it is the community actually wants from a teamowner, since it seems to change on a daily basis. The only rules I've figured out so far are 1) Community knows better than players on balance, do not discuss balance 2) Do not question anything TaKe does because Germany will get mad 3) Don't crowdfund things There is a fourth rule I'll teach you: 4) The stupid and aggressive opinions belong to a disproportionately vocal minority in 90% of cases
They sure are vocal.
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On July 10 2014 03:09 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:06 TotalBiscuit wrote:You can't shit on the team league format, mouz signing new players in order to compete, AND just generally calling your players bad and not expect any repercussions. Yes yes I know, the community only wants honesty when it's what they want to hear. Do you not want humility? You don't want us to admit we're playing badly and that fans should be able to expect and deserve better than this? What the fuck do you want? It's been 4 years and I still can't figure out what it is the community actually wants from a teamowner, since it seems to change on a daily basis. The only rules I've figured out so far are 1) Community knows better than players on balance, do not discuss balance 2) Do not question anything TaKe does because Germany will get mad 3) Don't crowdfund things Every time some random guy posts something in an LR thread it is not an accurate representation of what "the community" wants or expects. Honestly we'd all be better off if we started limiting our use of that term
THE community doesn't exist anyway.
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Ryung killing the dream. Not cool.
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On July 10 2014 03:08 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Those storms were gold league level. Just horrible
Ryung was spread out well and had almost entirely marauders what do you expect? He had storms to spare so he had to throw them out quickly despite them not being super efficient
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On July 10 2014 03:08 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:08 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Those storms were gold league level. Just horrible I'm gold league and I take offense to that.
I am very sorry.
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On July 10 2014 03:09 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:09 Yorkie wrote:On July 10 2014 03:06 TotalBiscuit wrote:You can't shit on the team league format, mouz signing new players in order to compete, AND just generally calling your players bad and not expect any repercussions. Yes yes I know, the community only wants honesty when it's what they want to hear. Do you not want humility? You don't want us to admit we're playing badly and that fans should be able to expect and deserve better than this? What the fuck do you want? It's been 4 years and I still can't figure out what it is the community actually wants from a teamowner, since it seems to change on a daily basis. The only rules I've figured out so far are 1) Community knows better than players on balance, do not discuss balance 2) Do not question anything TaKe does because Germany will get mad 3) Don't crowdfund things Every time some random guy posts something in an LR thread it is not an accurate representation of what "the community" wants or expects. Honestly we'd all be better off if we started limiting our use of that term THE community doesn't exist anyway.
We are one. We are community.
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On July 10 2014 03:09 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:09 Yorkie wrote:On July 10 2014 03:06 TotalBiscuit wrote:You can't shit on the team league format, mouz signing new players in order to compete, AND just generally calling your players bad and not expect any repercussions. Yes yes I know, the community only wants honesty when it's what they want to hear. Do you not want humility? You don't want us to admit we're playing badly and that fans should be able to expect and deserve better than this? What the fuck do you want? It's been 4 years and I still can't figure out what it is the community actually wants from a teamowner, since it seems to change on a daily basis. The only rules I've figured out so far are 1) Community knows better than players on balance, do not discuss balance 2) Do not question anything TaKe does because Germany will get mad 3) Don't crowdfund things Every time some random guy posts something in an LR thread it is not an accurate representation of what "the community" wants or expects. Honestly we'd all be better off if we started limiting our use of that term THE community doesn't exist anyway.
So you're saying I'm making threads and posting VODs for no one?
oh
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On July 10 2014 03:06 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +You can't shit on the team league format, mouz signing new players in order to compete, AND just generally calling your players bad and not expect any repercussions. Yes yes I know, the community only wants honesty when it's what they want to hear. Do you not want humility? You don't want us to admit we're playing badly and that fans should be able to expect and deserve better than this? What the fuck do you want? It's been 4 years and I still can't figure out what it is the community actually wants from a teamowner, since it seems to change on a daily basis. The only rules I've figured out so far are 1) Community knows better than players on balance, do not discuss balance 2) Do not question anything TaKe does because Germany will get mad 3) Don't crowdfund things
I do not want to salt the wounds here because people are generally being shitty and the match is not going well, but I will say that in most cases the "community" is not a majority. You can't please everyone, so when you say what the community wants changes on a daily basis, it basically means that whatever you do, some people won't like it. Sucks but it is true. Doesn't mean that those people represent the entire community.
Also I wish people would voice their dissent to you with reasonable arguments and everyone could be civil and at the end everyone could just say, "agree to disagree :D" and go back to being chums. Unfortunately, people tend to just get heated and the reasonable debate part goes flying out the window D:
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On July 10 2014 03:11 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:09 sAsImre wrote:On July 10 2014 03:09 Yorkie wrote:On July 10 2014 03:06 TotalBiscuit wrote:You can't shit on the team league format, mouz signing new players in order to compete, AND just generally calling your players bad and not expect any repercussions. Yes yes I know, the community only wants honesty when it's what they want to hear. Do you not want humility? You don't want us to admit we're playing badly and that fans should be able to expect and deserve better than this? What the fuck do you want? It's been 4 years and I still can't figure out what it is the community actually wants from a teamowner, since it seems to change on a daily basis. The only rules I've figured out so far are 1) Community knows better than players on balance, do not discuss balance 2) Do not question anything TaKe does because Germany will get mad 3) Don't crowdfund things Every time some random guy posts something in an LR thread it is not an accurate representation of what "the community" wants or expects. Honestly we'd all be better off if we started limiting our use of that term THE community doesn't exist anyway. So you're saying I'm making threads and posting VODs for no one? oh
well for those who use it. Which is a fraction of the people enjoying starcraft.
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On July 10 2014 03:10 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:08 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Those storms were gold league level. Just horrible Ryung was spread out well and had almost entirely marauders what do you expect? He had storms to spare so he had to throw them out quickly despite them not being super efficient
He stormed exactly same spot 3 times. Next 2 storms didn't hit almost anything.
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On July 10 2014 03:09 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:09 Yorkie wrote:On July 10 2014 03:06 TotalBiscuit wrote:You can't shit on the team league format, mouz signing new players in order to compete, AND just generally calling your players bad and not expect any repercussions. Yes yes I know, the community only wants honesty when it's what they want to hear. Do you not want humility? You don't want us to admit we're playing badly and that fans should be able to expect and deserve better than this? What the fuck do you want? It's been 4 years and I still can't figure out what it is the community actually wants from a teamowner, since it seems to change on a daily basis. The only rules I've figured out so far are 1) Community knows better than players on balance, do not discuss balance 2) Do not question anything TaKe does because Germany will get mad 3) Don't crowdfund things Every time some random guy posts something in an LR thread it is not an accurate representation of what "the community" wants or expects. Honestly we'd all be better off if we started limiting our use of that term THE community doesn't exist anyway.
It does, check it out, it's pretty funny.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1439629/
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I suppose it's quite indicative of how this game has gone for an Axiom fan in that I'm just happy that we haven't been all-killed by Sjaak....
Hoping that Ryung doesn't fall to Starbuck now.
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On July 10 2014 03:06 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +You can't shit on the team league format, mouz signing new players in order to compete, AND just generally calling your players bad and not expect any repercussions. Yes yes I know, the community only wants honesty when it's what they want to hear. Do you not want humility? You don't want us to admit we're playing badly and that fans should be able to expect and deserve better than this? What the fuck do you want? It's been 4 years and I still can't figure out what it is the community actually wants from a teamowner, since it seems to change on a daily basis. The only rules I've figured out so far are 1) Community knows better than players on balance, do not discuss balance 2) Do not question anything TaKe does because Germany will get mad 3) Don't crowdfund things
Look, you can be honest and not be mean. You can say, "oh my players aren't playing well today" rather then calling your players straight up bad. I don't go up to my mom and tell her she's fat, because that's disrespectful. You can tell her that she looks great, but would look nicer if she lost a few pounds. that's still being honest while not being as downright rude. You can say you're not playing well, and that we us fans deserve better. but you don't have to downright bash your team.
With all of your bullet points, these are all things that i don't agree with, and i would assume most of the comunity doesn't agree with. You can listen to the minority all day, but at the end of the day, that's not what all of us agree with.
I think your a great guy, and i'm sorry your going through so much. the last thing i want is to cause more stress. i thought you should just know where some people are coming from.
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On July 10 2014 03:12 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:10 Yorkie wrote:On July 10 2014 03:08 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Those storms were gold league level. Just horrible Ryung was spread out well and had almost entirely marauders what do you expect? He had storms to spare so he had to throw them out quickly despite them not being super efficient He stormed exactly same place 3 times. Next 2 storms didn't hit almost anything.
Okay he was behind and panicked and had to get all his storms out and morph to archons before the templar just died. It happens
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On July 10 2014 03:12 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:10 Yorkie wrote:On July 10 2014 03:08 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Those storms were gold league level. Just horrible Ryung was spread out well and had almost entirely marauders what do you expect? He had storms to spare so he had to throw them out quickly despite them not being super efficient He stormed exactly same place 3 times. Next 2 storms didn't hit almost anything.
Probably a cross server lag or something like that. Remember that EU-NA is not perfect as well.
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
2 base Brood Lords please
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On July 09 2014 23:55 Crot4le wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 23:50 Yhamm wrote:On July 09 2014 23:48 Xoronius wrote:On July 09 2014 23:43 Yhamm wrote:
ah, some whine on the format, like every week on ATC There's no problem with that though, format of a tournament only changes once a season, if you want to change something there, you have to be vocal consistently. I personally have no problem with all-kill, but if they have, there are not that many other channels to communicate it. (Ofc I may be a bit biased here, since I use my freedom of expression against bad systems quite often). he could make a thread, ask for a vote to see what the viewers think and show it to TaKe, not whine about it each time Axiom loses or when some other player do an all-kill Well let's see shall we: Poll: What format do you prefer?Proleague (72) 62% All-kill no revive (35) 30% All-kill with revive (10) 9% 117 total votes Your vote: What format do you prefer? (Vote): All-kill with revive
(Vote): All-kill no revive
(Vote): Proleague
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I think the general consensus has been "Wow a foreign Teamleague with PL format in a live studio would be awesome! Unfortunately it can't happen right now!"
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On July 10 2014 03:13 JimmiC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:06 TotalBiscuit wrote:You can't shit on the team league format, mouz signing new players in order to compete, AND just generally calling your players bad and not expect any repercussions. Yes yes I know, the community only wants honesty when it's what they want to hear. Do you not want humility? You don't want us to admit we're playing badly and that fans should be able to expect and deserve better than this? What the fuck do you want? It's been 4 years and I still can't figure out what it is the community actually wants from a teamowner, since it seems to change on a daily basis. The only rules I've figured out so far are 1) Community knows better than players on balance, do not discuss balance 2) Do not question anything TaKe does because Germany will get mad 3) Don't crowdfund things People want you to do it with class, not with the angst and whinyness of a spoiled 12 year old. Maybe look at nazgul no one "hates" on him. Did you ever consider that perhaps it's not the communities fault completely and your actions contribute to this? I'm going to be done posting because you clearly want to make this about you instead of the sc2 that is being played, and I don't want to contribute to it. Feel free to PM me anytime buddy, and good luck.
Oh really, because I tried to make it about the Starcraft that was being played and then you called me out for not being classy enough.
So yeah, forgive me if I don't take your "advice" seriously. You didnt want to talk about the performance, you wanted your pound of flesh. YOU made this about me, YOU didn't say a thing about the Starcraft being played. I call it as I see it, my guys are playing badly. Ryung is getting things back on track, but you would apparently prefer that I lie about our teams performance because that's "classy", whatever that means.
I have to go to radiation, which strangely I'm looking forward to more than reading more of your posts.
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On July 10 2014 03:19 Darkhorse wrote:
I think the general consensus has been "Wow a foreign Teamleague with PL format in a live studio would be awesome! Unfortunately it can't happen right now!"
if we skip the studio part (will probably never happen) it's doable.
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On July 10 2014 03:20 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:19 Darkhorse wrote:
I think the general consensus has been "Wow a foreign Teamleague with PL format in a live studio would be awesome! Unfortunately it can't happen right now!" if we skip the studio part (will probably never happen) it's doable.
True, but online it just isn't nearly as hype. Plus they have all these rules and free wins in ATC that, while there for a reason, kind of suck when they are implemented harshly.
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On July 10 2014 03:20 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:13 JimmiC wrote:On July 10 2014 03:06 TotalBiscuit wrote:You can't shit on the team league format, mouz signing new players in order to compete, AND just generally calling your players bad and not expect any repercussions. Yes yes I know, the community only wants honesty when it's what they want to hear. Do you not want humility? You don't want us to admit we're playing badly and that fans should be able to expect and deserve better than this? What the fuck do you want? It's been 4 years and I still can't figure out what it is the community actually wants from a teamowner, since it seems to change on a daily basis. The only rules I've figured out so far are 1) Community knows better than players on balance, do not discuss balance 2) Do not question anything TaKe does because Germany will get mad 3) Don't crowdfund things People want you to do it with class, not with the angst and whinyness of a spoiled 12 year old. Maybe look at nazgul no one "hates" on him. Did you ever consider that perhaps it's not the communities fault completely and your actions contribute to this? I'm going to be done posting because you clearly want to make this about you instead of the sc2 that is being played, and I don't want to contribute to it. Feel free to PM me anytime buddy, and good luck. Oh really, because I tried to make it about the Starcraft that was being played and then you called me out for not being classy enough. So yeah, forgive me if I don't take your "advice" seriously. You didnt want to talk about the performance, you wanted your pound of flesh. I call it as I see it, my guys are playing badly. Ryung is getting things back on track, but you would apparently prefer that I lie about our teams performance because that's "classy", whatever that means. I have to go to radiation, which strangely I'm looking forward to more than reading more of your posts.
Good luck with your radiation. I hope that things work out well.
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On July 10 2014 03:22 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:20 sAsImre wrote:On July 10 2014 03:19 Darkhorse wrote:
I think the general consensus has been "Wow a foreign Teamleague with PL format in a live studio would be awesome! Unfortunately it can't happen right now!" if we skip the studio part (will probably never happen) it's doable. True, but online it just isn't nearly as hype. Plus they have all these rules and free wins in ATC that, while there for a reason, kind of suck when they are implemented harshly.
Well, the free-win-rule was really neccessary though, to stop teams from pulling a ROOT. Without it, stuff was just chaotic.
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On July 10 2014 03:22 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:20 sAsImre wrote:On July 10 2014 03:19 Darkhorse wrote:
I think the general consensus has been "Wow a foreign Teamleague with PL format in a live studio would be awesome! Unfortunately it can't happen right now!" if we skip the studio part (will probably never happen) it's doable. True, but online it just isn't nearly as hype. Plus they have all these rules and free wins in ATC that, while there for a reason, kind of suck when they are implemented harshly.
the 1st season they did offline playoffs right ?
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Impressed with what Sjaak was able to do today, but only time will tell if it's anything more than a flash in the pan. Still, some nice results from him today.
I do think that Axiom would have a better chance of beings successful if they move on in the tourney, though.
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On July 10 2014 03:20 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:13 JimmiC wrote:On July 10 2014 03:06 TotalBiscuit wrote:You can't shit on the team league format, mouz signing new players in order to compete, AND just generally calling your players bad and not expect any repercussions. Yes yes I know, the community only wants honesty when it's what they want to hear. Do you not want humility? You don't want us to admit we're playing badly and that fans should be able to expect and deserve better than this? What the fuck do you want? It's been 4 years and I still can't figure out what it is the community actually wants from a teamowner, since it seems to change on a daily basis. The only rules I've figured out so far are 1) Community knows better than players on balance, do not discuss balance 2) Do not question anything TaKe does because Germany will get mad 3) Don't crowdfund things People want you to do it with class, not with the angst and whinyness of a spoiled 12 year old. Maybe look at nazgul no one "hates" on him. Did you ever consider that perhaps it's not the communities fault completely and your actions contribute to this? I'm going to be done posting because you clearly want to make this about you instead of the sc2 that is being played, and I don't want to contribute to it. Feel free to PM me anytime buddy, and good luck. Oh really, because I tried to make it about the Starcraft that was being played and then you called me out for not being classy enough. So yeah, forgive me if I don't take your "advice" seriously. You didnt want to talk about the performance, you wanted your pound of flesh. YOU made this about me, YOU didn't say a thing about the Starcraft being played. I call it as I see it, my guys are playing badly. Ryung is getting things back on track, but you would apparently prefer that I lie about our teams performance because that's "classy", whatever that means. I have to go to radiation, which strangely I'm looking forward to more than reading more of your posts.
Chil out tb. Getting into an argument on the internet is like ramming your genitalia into a brick wall.
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On July 10 2014 03:28 JimmiC wrote:
Not sure about that, it looks like neither has the players to deal with the big guns of acer and liquid (innovation and taeja). I think this is the most important match for both teams because I can't see them knocking off the top two.
Axiom not playing great today, admittedly.
But if you take a look at their WCS results this season, they seem capable of taking off some bigger name players than Mouz. Mouz seems to be relying on 3+ kills per match from Sjaak. Don't know if that lightning will strike twice.
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did TB & Axiom allow Sjaak&Co to play for mouz or did the admins override the rules & the teams as well?
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On July 10 2014 03:30 blacksheepwall wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:28 JimmiC wrote:
Not sure about that, it looks like neither has the players to deal with the big guns of acer and liquid (innovation and taeja). I think this is the most important match for both teams because I can't see them knocking off the top two. Axiom not playing great today, admittedly. But if you take a look at their WCS results this season, they seem capable of taking off some bigger name players than Mouz. Mouz seems to be relying on 3+ kills per match from Sjaak. Don't know if that lightning will strike twice.
Axiom has definitely what it takes to deal with Taeja. Innovation in teamleagues on the other hand...
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starbuck is a very messy player
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Ryung wrecking face. I hope he reverse all kills.
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Oh yes Ryung, this is more like it. Completely destroying Starbuck.
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mouz should just forfeit the next map and revive sjaak
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On July 10 2014 03:31 nkr wrote:
did TB & Axiom allow Sjaak&Co to play for mouz or did the admins override the rules & the teams as well?
It was the admins decision
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On July 10 2014 03:31 nkr wrote:
did TB & Axiom allow Sjaak&Co to play for mouz or did the admins override the rules & the teams as well?
Judging by TB's quite angry posts... it seems it was an admin decision.
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On July 10 2014 03:31 Undead1993 wrote:
starbuck is a very messy player
With a bit more practice, he'll be a messi player
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On July 10 2014 03:32 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:31 nkr wrote:
did TB & Axiom allow Sjaak&Co to play for mouz or did the admins override the rules & the teams as well? It was the admins decision
absolute bullshit, this league has been a farce
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On July 10 2014 03:32 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:31 nkr wrote:
did TB & Axiom allow Sjaak&Co to play for mouz or did the admins override the rules & the teams as well? It was the admins decision
shitting on your own rules is one of the worst thing you can do TT
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On July 10 2014 03:32 Jono7272 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:31 nkr wrote:
did TB & Axiom allow Sjaak&Co to play for mouz or did the admins override the rules & the teams as well? Judging by TB's quite angry posts... it seems it was an admin decision.
What can a team do when they lose their key players and they don't have enough to play in the playoffs? It only makes sense to let them get additional players.
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Everybody is allowed to have a bad day. Specially after Innovation crunched their souls.
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On July 10 2014 03:33 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:32 Jono7272 wrote:On July 10 2014 03:31 nkr wrote:
did TB & Axiom allow Sjaak&Co to play for mouz or did the admins override the rules & the teams as well? Judging by TB's quite angry posts... it seems it was an admin decision. What can a team do when they lose their key players and they don't have enough to play in the playoffs? It only makes sense to let them get additional players.
forfeit and next team get their spot.
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On July 10 2014 03:32 Shellshock wrote:
mouz should just forfeit the next map and revive sjaak
That would be awesome and save everybody a lot of time. Poor Khaldor solo-casting for the last 15 zillion hours or so.
EDIT: Plus, World Cup in 90 minutes. Let's do this.
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Belgica34432 Posts
A Nydus?
KANG DONG HYUUUUN
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Please just a-move Ryung -_-
Game is over since 10minutes D:
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On July 10 2014 03:32 nkr wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:32 Darkhorse wrote:On July 10 2014 03:31 nkr wrote:
did TB & Axiom allow Sjaak&Co to play for mouz or did the admins override the rules & the teams as well? It was the admins decision absolute bullshit, this league has been a farce
make it better
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That's was like GM vs Bronze out there.
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On July 10 2014 03:32 nkr wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:32 Darkhorse wrote:On July 10 2014 03:31 nkr wrote:
did TB & Axiom allow Sjaak&Co to play for mouz or did the admins override the rules & the teams as well? It was the admins decision absolute bullshit, this league has been a farce
even though it might be a "on-the-fly" decision, it's the most reasonable thing they could have done. i would say that most people want to see a bo9 and it's a great opportunity for sjaak for example to show himself, who wasn't able to show himself too much because of the age restriction in WCS
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On July 10 2014 03:33 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:33 Nerchio wrote:On July 10 2014 03:32 Jono7272 wrote:On July 10 2014 03:31 nkr wrote:
did TB & Axiom allow Sjaak&Co to play for mouz or did the admins override the rules & the teams as well? Judging by TB's quite angry posts... it seems it was an admin decision. What can a team do when they lose their key players and they don't have enough to play in the playoffs? It only makes sense to let them get additional players. forfeit and next team get their spot.
At this state of Starcraft2 it doesn't make any sense, teams have barely enough to play team leagues and some don't have players at all(look at what happened with EG). Why would you disqualify 3 good players when they destroyed the season just because 1 additional player left the team?
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On July 10 2014 03:33 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:33 Nerchio wrote:On July 10 2014 03:32 Jono7272 wrote:On July 10 2014 03:31 nkr wrote:
did TB & Axiom allow Sjaak&Co to play for mouz or did the admins override the rules & the teams as well? Judging by TB's quite angry posts... it seems it was an admin decision. What can a team do when they lose their key players and they don't have enough to play in the playoffs? It only makes sense to let them get additional players. forfeit and next team get their spot.
Yeah, sure just give away 2k dollars. They probably would have rather played with only Starbuck, Hasu, Heromarine and someone from the management than forfit the spot and I doubt, that that would have made you happier.
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On July 10 2014 03:31 royalroadweed wrote:
Ryung wrecking face. I hope he reverse all kills.
Just two more to go. I pray that he can pull it off.
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On July 10 2014 03:35 Undead1993 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:32 nkr wrote:On July 10 2014 03:32 Darkhorse wrote:On July 10 2014 03:31 nkr wrote:
did TB & Axiom allow Sjaak&Co to play for mouz or did the admins override the rules & the teams as well? It was the admins decision absolute bullshit, this league has been a farce even though it might be a "on-the-fly" decision, it's most reasonable thing they could have done. i would say that most people want to see a bo9 and it's a great opportunity for sjaak for example to show himself, who wasn't able to show himself too much because of the age restriction in WCS
and deresponsabilize team management while meaning your rules are shit that can be overthrown everytime it's needed. Mouz fucked up badly in their roster management regarding their commitment to the ATC and Take come to save them. After the K3 incident it's so laughable.
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On July 10 2014 03:33 Godwrath wrote:
Everybody is allowed to have a bad day. Specially after Innovation crunched their souls.
In Gumba's case he had a bad month after Inno lost in everything in that 1-2 day period.
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On July 10 2014 03:35 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:33 sAsImre wrote:On July 10 2014 03:33 Nerchio wrote:On July 10 2014 03:32 Jono7272 wrote:On July 10 2014 03:31 nkr wrote:
did TB & Axiom allow Sjaak&Co to play for mouz or did the admins override the rules & the teams as well? Judging by TB's quite angry posts... it seems it was an admin decision. What can a team do when they lose their key players and they don't have enough to play in the playoffs? It only makes sense to let them get additional players. forfeit and next team get their spot. At this state of Starcraft2 it doesn't make any sense, teams have barely enough to play team leagues and some don't have players at all(look at what happened with EG). Why would you disqualify 3 good players when they destroyed the season just because 1 additional player left the team?
bad management doesn't deserve a reward.
it just shows how much of a joke esport is when you don't even need to respect your engagement to get into prizepool.
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Small recap:
Rules clearly state no mercs or partnerships for this season. Bountry Hunters and XMG (both german based and XMG sponsors of TakeTV events) blatantly break this rule and admins make up an excuse that you can partner with organisations, just not teams. Admins are then quoted saying that you could have teamed with KESPA if you had wished. Yeah right.
Season starts and suddenly admins are extremely overly harsh towards teams and EG&iG gets forfeited maps because they turn up a minute late. Teams are later told they can't add players for playoffs or prior to playoffs. Certain teams with new players can't use them.
Playoffs start and mouz (once again german based) are suddenly allowed to add new players, and admins do this without even consulting with other participating teams despite it being against the rules.
I probably missed something.
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On July 10 2014 03:35 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:33 sAsImre wrote:On July 10 2014 03:33 Nerchio wrote:On July 10 2014 03:32 Jono7272 wrote:On July 10 2014 03:31 nkr wrote:
did TB & Axiom allow Sjaak&Co to play for mouz or did the admins override the rules & the teams as well? Judging by TB's quite angry posts... it seems it was an admin decision. What can a team do when they lose their key players and they don't have enough to play in the playoffs? It only makes sense to let them get additional players. forfeit and next team get their spot. At this state of Starcraft2 it doesn't make any sense, teams have barely enough to play team leagues and some don't have players at all(look at what happened with EG). Why would you disqualify 3 good players when they destroyed the season just because 1 additional player left the team?
I agree. Why would a team be able to lose their players and not replace them ?
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On July 10 2014 03:37 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:35 Nerchio wrote:On July 10 2014 03:33 sAsImre wrote:On July 10 2014 03:33 Nerchio wrote:On July 10 2014 03:32 Jono7272 wrote:On July 10 2014 03:31 nkr wrote:
did TB & Axiom allow Sjaak&Co to play for mouz or did the admins override the rules & the teams as well? Judging by TB's quite angry posts... it seems it was an admin decision. What can a team do when they lose their key players and they don't have enough to play in the playoffs? It only makes sense to let them get additional players. forfeit and next team get their spot. At this state of Starcraft2 it doesn't make any sense, teams have barely enough to play team leagues and some don't have players at all(look at what happened with EG). Why would you disqualify 3 good players when they destroyed the season just because 1 additional player left the team? bad management doesn't deserve a reward.
You seem to be avoiding the main point of my argument and if we listened to your way of thinking then it would be beneficial to take a lot of trash players into the team just to throw them away after the team league.
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On July 10 2014 03:37 nkr wrote:
Small recap:
Rules clearly state no mercs or partnerships for this season. Bountry Hunters and XMG (both german based and XMG sponsors of TakeTV events) blatantly break this rule and admins make up an excuse that you can partner with organisations, just not teams. Admins are then quoted saying that you could have teamed with KESPA if you had wished. Yeah right.
Season starts and suddenly admins are extremely overly harsh towards teams and EG&iG gets forfeited maps because they turn up a minute late. Teams are later told they can't add players for playoffs or prior to playoffs. Certain teams with new players can't use them.
Playoffs start and mouz (once again german based) are suddenly allowed to add new players, and admins do this without even consulting with other participating teams despite it being against the rules.
I probably missed something.
for this season it's all iirc.
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On July 10 2014 03:37 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:35 Nerchio wrote:On July 10 2014 03:33 sAsImre wrote:On July 10 2014 03:33 Nerchio wrote:On July 10 2014 03:32 Jono7272 wrote:On July 10 2014 03:31 nkr wrote:
did TB & Axiom allow Sjaak&Co to play for mouz or did the admins override the rules & the teams as well? Judging by TB's quite angry posts... it seems it was an admin decision. What can a team do when they lose their key players and they don't have enough to play in the playoffs? It only makes sense to let them get additional players. forfeit and next team get their spot. At this state of Starcraft2 it doesn't make any sense, teams have barely enough to play team leagues and some don't have players at all(look at what happened with EG). Why would you disqualify 3 good players when they destroyed the season just because 1 additional player left the team? bad management doesn't deserve a reward. it just shows how much of a joke esport is when you don't even need to respect your engagement to get into prizepool.
Bad management does not get a reward. Good play gets a reward. Mouz played good, thus they are in the playoffs.
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On July 10 2014 03:38 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:37 sAsImre wrote:On July 10 2014 03:35 Nerchio wrote:On July 10 2014 03:33 sAsImre wrote:On July 10 2014 03:33 Nerchio wrote:On July 10 2014 03:32 Jono7272 wrote:On July 10 2014 03:31 nkr wrote:
did TB & Axiom allow Sjaak&Co to play for mouz or did the admins override the rules & the teams as well? Judging by TB's quite angry posts... it seems it was an admin decision. What can a team do when they lose their key players and they don't have enough to play in the playoffs? It only makes sense to let them get additional players. forfeit and next team get their spot. At this state of Starcraft2 it doesn't make any sense, teams have barely enough to play team leagues and some don't have players at all(look at what happened with EG). Why would you disqualify 3 good players when they destroyed the season just because 1 additional player left the team? bad management doesn't deserve a reward. You seem to be avoiding the main point of my argument and if we listened to your way of thinking then it would be beneficial to take a lot of trash players into the team just to throw them away after the team league.
Or have an academy thing. Or a decent size roster. Or you can try to anticipate the leaving of some players.
you could even do bo7 just like PL did.
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On July 10 2014 03:39 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:37 sAsImre wrote:On July 10 2014 03:35 Nerchio wrote:On July 10 2014 03:33 sAsImre wrote:On July 10 2014 03:33 Nerchio wrote:On July 10 2014 03:32 Jono7272 wrote:On July 10 2014 03:31 nkr wrote:
did TB & Axiom allow Sjaak&Co to play for mouz or did the admins override the rules & the teams as well? Judging by TB's quite angry posts... it seems it was an admin decision. What can a team do when they lose their key players and they don't have enough to play in the playoffs? It only makes sense to let them get additional players. forfeit and next team get their spot. At this state of Starcraft2 it doesn't make any sense, teams have barely enough to play team leagues and some don't have players at all(look at what happened with EG). Why would you disqualify 3 good players when they destroyed the season just because 1 additional player left the team? bad management doesn't deserve a reward. it just shows how much of a joke esport is when you don't even need to respect your engagement to get into prizepool. Bad management does not get a reward. Good play gets a reward. Mouz played good, thus they are in the playoffs.
then admins allow them to play despite their management failing to comply with the rules. But ATC admins have been on MLG level since the beginning tbh.
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On July 10 2014 03:40 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:38 Nerchio wrote:On July 10 2014 03:37 sAsImre wrote:On July 10 2014 03:35 Nerchio wrote:On July 10 2014 03:33 sAsImre wrote:On July 10 2014 03:33 Nerchio wrote:On July 10 2014 03:32 Jono7272 wrote:On July 10 2014 03:31 nkr wrote:
did TB & Axiom allow Sjaak&Co to play for mouz or did the admins override the rules & the teams as well? Judging by TB's quite angry posts... it seems it was an admin decision. What can a team do when they lose their key players and they don't have enough to play in the playoffs? It only makes sense to let them get additional players. forfeit and next team get their spot. At this state of Starcraft2 it doesn't make any sense, teams have barely enough to play team leagues and some don't have players at all(look at what happened with EG). Why would you disqualify 3 good players when they destroyed the season just because 1 additional player left the team? bad management doesn't deserve a reward. You seem to be avoiding the main point of my argument and if we listened to your way of thinking then it would be beneficial to take a lot of trash players into the team just to throw them away after the team league. Or have an academy thing. Or a decent size roster. Or you can try to anticipate the leaving of some players.
Most of the time contracts end at a certain date. If this date is during a league, then perhaps it's best to have an extra player. But nah, that would take too much effort.
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France7248 Posts
first match for mouz Majestic !
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On July 10 2014 03:40 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:38 Nerchio wrote:On July 10 2014 03:37 sAsImre wrote:On July 10 2014 03:35 Nerchio wrote:On July 10 2014 03:33 sAsImre wrote:On July 10 2014 03:33 Nerchio wrote:On July 10 2014 03:32 Jono7272 wrote:On July 10 2014 03:31 nkr wrote:
did TB & Axiom allow Sjaak&Co to play for mouz or did the admins override the rules & the teams as well? Judging by TB's quite angry posts... it seems it was an admin decision. What can a team do when they lose their key players and they don't have enough to play in the playoffs? It only makes sense to let them get additional players. forfeit and next team get their spot. At this state of Starcraft2 it doesn't make any sense, teams have barely enough to play team leagues and some don't have players at all(look at what happened with EG). Why would you disqualify 3 good players when they destroyed the season just because 1 additional player left the team? bad management doesn't deserve a reward. You seem to be avoiding the main point of my argument and if we listened to your way of thinking then it would be beneficial to take a lot of trash players into the team just to throw them away after the team league. Or have an academy thing. Or a decent size roster. Or you can try to anticipate the leaving of some players.
Uh... I don't know if you're serious, saying that :s
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On July 10 2014 03:41 Faefae wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:40 sAsImre wrote:On July 10 2014 03:38 Nerchio wrote:On July 10 2014 03:37 sAsImre wrote:On July 10 2014 03:35 Nerchio wrote:On July 10 2014 03:33 sAsImre wrote:On July 10 2014 03:33 Nerchio wrote:On July 10 2014 03:32 Jono7272 wrote:On July 10 2014 03:31 nkr wrote:
did TB & Axiom allow Sjaak&Co to play for mouz or did the admins override the rules & the teams as well? Judging by TB's quite angry posts... it seems it was an admin decision. What can a team do when they lose their key players and they don't have enough to play in the playoffs? It only makes sense to let them get additional players. forfeit and next team get their spot. At this state of Starcraft2 it doesn't make any sense, teams have barely enough to play team leagues and some don't have players at all(look at what happened with EG). Why would you disqualify 3 good players when they destroyed the season just because 1 additional player left the team? bad management doesn't deserve a reward. You seem to be avoiding the main point of my argument and if we listened to your way of thinking then it would be beneficial to take a lot of trash players into the team just to throw them away after the team league. Or have an academy thing. Or a decent size roster. Or you can try to anticipate the leaving of some players. Uh... I don't know if you're serious, saying that :s
you know there is an end date on the contracts right ?
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On July 10 2014 02:54 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:51 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 10 2014 02:50 D-light wrote:On July 10 2014 02:49 ESC FeaR wrote:
TB u mad bro ? I mean it is pretty damn obvious that he is disappointed by his players for performing the way they are. Chemo, radiation, my team apparently forgetting how to play Starcraft, shitty people in the LR thread, this has just been one awful week so far. Maybe it's just my rosy view of the world but I think LR threads have been less shitty recently than they have been in the past 2 weeks or so.
There was a very low point during the MLG Anahiem rulebook shitposting period.
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On July 10 2014 03:41 Faefae wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:40 sAsImre wrote:On July 10 2014 03:38 Nerchio wrote:On July 10 2014 03:37 sAsImre wrote:On July 10 2014 03:35 Nerchio wrote:On July 10 2014 03:33 sAsImre wrote:On July 10 2014 03:33 Nerchio wrote:On July 10 2014 03:32 Jono7272 wrote:On July 10 2014 03:31 nkr wrote:
did TB & Axiom allow Sjaak&Co to play for mouz or did the admins override the rules & the teams as well? Judging by TB's quite angry posts... it seems it was an admin decision. What can a team do when they lose their key players and they don't have enough to play in the playoffs? It only makes sense to let them get additional players. forfeit and next team get their spot. At this state of Starcraft2 it doesn't make any sense, teams have barely enough to play team leagues and some don't have players at all(look at what happened with EG). Why would you disqualify 3 good players when they destroyed the season just because 1 additional player left the team? bad management doesn't deserve a reward. You seem to be avoiding the main point of my argument and if we listened to your way of thinking then it would be beneficial to take a lot of trash players into the team just to throw them away after the team league. Or have an academy thing. Or a decent size roster. Or you can try to anticipate the leaving of some players. Uh... I don't know if you're serious, saying that :s
Never take raging ppl serious^^
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Majestic? I don't want to have egg on my face, buuuuuut, Majestic does worry me far less than HasuObs....
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On July 10 2014 03:42 Big-t wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:41 Faefae wrote:On July 10 2014 03:40 sAsImre wrote:On July 10 2014 03:38 Nerchio wrote:On July 10 2014 03:37 sAsImre wrote:On July 10 2014 03:35 Nerchio wrote:On July 10 2014 03:33 sAsImre wrote:On July 10 2014 03:33 Nerchio wrote:On July 10 2014 03:32 Jono7272 wrote:On July 10 2014 03:31 nkr wrote:
did TB & Axiom allow Sjaak&Co to play for mouz or did the admins override the rules & the teams as well? Judging by TB's quite angry posts... it seems it was an admin decision. What can a team do when they lose their key players and they don't have enough to play in the playoffs? It only makes sense to let them get additional players. forfeit and next team get their spot. At this state of Starcraft2 it doesn't make any sense, teams have barely enough to play team leagues and some don't have players at all(look at what happened with EG). Why would you disqualify 3 good players when they destroyed the season just because 1 additional player left the team? bad management doesn't deserve a reward. You seem to be avoiding the main point of my argument and if we listened to your way of thinking then it would be beneficial to take a lot of trash players into the team just to throw them away after the team league. Or have an academy thing. Or a decent size roster. Or you can try to anticipate the leaving of some players. Uh... I don't know if you're serious, saying that :s Never take raging ppl serious^^
or german speaking ppl about Take related stuff.
On July 10 2014 03:43 Crot4le wrote:
Majestic? I don't want to have egg on my face, buuuuuut, Majestic does worry me far less than HasuObs....
especially since Hasu started to all in.
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or german speaking ppl about Take related stuff.
Looks like Big-t is from austria, not Germany, and we were talking about mouz, not take..
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^ Well I´m still a TakeTV fan and this guys is f***** me so off. Instead of being happy that there is a team league or PM TakeTV with constructive critic he is raging on TL. GJ
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If you get all 5 kills, it still counts as the all kill right?
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On July 10 2014 03:46 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
If you get all 5 kills, it still counts as the all kill right?
yes
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On July 10 2014 03:43 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:42 Big-t wrote:On July 10 2014 03:41 Faefae wrote:On July 10 2014 03:40 sAsImre wrote:On July 10 2014 03:38 Nerchio wrote:On July 10 2014 03:37 sAsImre wrote:On July 10 2014 03:35 Nerchio wrote:On July 10 2014 03:33 sAsImre wrote:On July 10 2014 03:33 Nerchio wrote:On July 10 2014 03:32 Jono7272 wrote:
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Judging by TB's quite angry posts... it seems it was an admin decision. What can a team do when they lose their key players and they don't have enough to play in the playoffs? It only makes sense to let them get additional players. forfeit and next team get their spot. At this state of Starcraft2 it doesn't make any sense, teams have barely enough to play team leagues and some don't have players at all(look at what happened with EG). Why would you disqualify 3 good players when they destroyed the season just because 1 additional player left the team? bad management doesn't deserve a reward. You seem to be avoiding the main point of my argument and if we listened to your way of thinking then it would be beneficial to take a lot of trash players into the team just to throw them away after the team league. Or have an academy thing. Or a decent size roster. Or you can try to anticipate the leaving of some players. Uh... I don't know if you're serious, saying that :s Never take raging ppl serious^^ or german speaking ppl about Take related stuff.
Sigh... Will a german ever be able to talk about TaKe-related-stuff without having to read bullshit like this?
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On July 10 2014 03:45 Faefae wrote:Looks like Big-t is from austria, not Germany, and we were talking about mouz, not take..
why do you respond to a conversation when you don't even know what the subject it :O
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On July 10 2014 03:46 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
If you get all 5 kills, it still counts as the all kill right?
I don't think so, since he lost.
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On July 10 2014 03:46 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:43 sAsImre wrote:On July 10 2014 03:42 Big-t wrote:On July 10 2014 03:41 Faefae wrote:On July 10 2014 03:40 sAsImre wrote:On July 10 2014 03:38 Nerchio wrote:On July 10 2014 03:37 sAsImre wrote:On July 10 2014 03:35 Nerchio wrote:On July 10 2014 03:33 sAsImre wrote:On July 10 2014 03:33 Nerchio wrote:
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What can a team do when they lose their key players and they don't have enough to play in the playoffs? It only makes sense to let them get additional players. forfeit and next team get their spot. At this state of Starcraft2 it doesn't make any sense, teams have barely enough to play team leagues and some don't have players at all(look at what happened with EG). Why would you disqualify 3 good players when they destroyed the season just because 1 additional player left the team? bad management doesn't deserve a reward. You seem to be avoiding the main point of my argument and if we listened to your way of thinking then it would be beneficial to take a lot of trash players into the team just to throw them away after the team league. Or have an academy thing. Or a decent size roster. Or you can try to anticipate the leaving of some players. Uh... I don't know if you're serious, saying that :s Never take raging ppl serious^^ or german speaking ppl about Take related stuff. Sigh... Will a german ever be able to talk about TaKe-related-stuff without having to read bullshit like this?
nope all german opinions on this topic are insignificant because take is german.
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On July 10 2014 03:47 nkr wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:45 Faefae wrote:or german speaking ppl about Take related stuff. Looks like Big-t is from austria, not Germany, and we were talking about mouz, not take.. why do you respond to a conversation when you don't even know what the subject it :O
Good job, completely ignoring the first part of the remark. We almost didn't notice.
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On July 10 2014 03:45 Faefae wrote:Looks like Big-t is from austria, not Germany, and we were talking about mouz, not take..
looks like you can't read.
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United States23455 Posts
I <3 German people and Xoronius specifically. You guys kick balls quite well.
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On July 10 2014 03:48 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:47 nkr wrote:On July 10 2014 03:45 Faefae wrote:or german speaking ppl about Take related stuff. Looks like Big-t is from austria, not Germany, and we were talking about mouz, not take.. why do you respond to a conversation when you don't even know what the subject it :O Good job, completely ignoring the first part of the remark. We almost didn't notice.
you can't read either. good one.
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On July 10 2014 03:48 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:47 nkr wrote:On July 10 2014 03:45 Faefae wrote:or german speaking ppl about Take related stuff. Looks like Big-t is from austria, not Germany, and we were talking about mouz, not take.. why do you respond to a conversation when you don't even know what the subject it :O Good job, completely ignoring the first part of the remark. We almost didn't notice.
read what he quoted and stop giving us a headache :D
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On July 10 2014 03:49 Darkhorse wrote:
I <3 German people and Xoronius specifically. You guys kick balls quite well.
I feel deeply honored.
So, to the general public, how about we shift our focus back to the game now?
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On July 10 2014 03:50 nkr wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:48 Xoronius wrote:On July 10 2014 03:47 nkr wrote:On July 10 2014 03:45 Faefae wrote:or german speaking ppl about Take related stuff. Looks like Big-t is from austria, not Germany, and we were talking about mouz, not take.. why do you respond to a conversation when you don't even know what the subject it :O Good job, completely ignoring the first part of the remark. We almost didn't notice. read what he quoted and stop giving us a headache :D
autodefense mode is strong enough to overcome reading skills :p
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I know that feeling outside-of-the-circle marine. I know that feeling
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Austria24422 Posts
Take and Naruto are probably my two favorite german people right now, everybody else is insufferable because of Germany reaching the WC final D:
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On July 10 2014 03:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Take and Naruto are probably my two favorite german people right now, everybody else is insufferable because of Germany reaching the WC final D:
RIP Bra7i1
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On July 10 2014 03:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Take and Naruto are probably my two favorite german people right now, everybody else is insufferable because of Germany reaching the WC final D:
Be happy, that you are not in Germany right now. As someone, who doesn't watch football, it is a really horrible time here right now.
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United States23455 Posts
On July 10 2014 03:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Take and Naruto are probably my two favorite german people right now, everybody else is insufferable because of Germany reaching the WC final D:
It's ByuN you scrub
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Good bye Robo!!! Come on Ryung.
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Geez, I think the pressure's getting to Majestic a bit. Lots of silly little mistakes.
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Ryung with the flash-level supply depot wall.
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YEAAAHH!! WE HAVE AN ACE-MATCH!
Come on Ryung, see it out and take Axiom through.
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I don't know what TB said in their skype chat, but he scarred Ryung straight
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As expected, as soon as one Axiom player collected himself and played well Mouz just doesn't have the lineup to contest them. Sjaak is the likely ace which should be a fun match though
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I don't think Majestic hit a single FF in that whole game. Not a great first appearance for the poor kid.
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Well at least Ryung showed up today. Hope he can close it out now
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On July 10 2014 03:59 Zenbrez wrote:
I don't know what TB said in their skype chat, but he scarred Ryung straight
He said he liked his older brother MMA more.
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On July 10 2014 03:59 Zenbrez wrote:
I don't know what TB said in their skype chat, but he scarred Ryung straight
"All-kill or fired"
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I guess we can just assume its going to be Sjaak again?
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On July 10 2014 03:59 Yorkie wrote:
As expected, as soon as one Axiom player collected himself and played well Mouz just doesn't have the lineup to contest them. Sjaak is the likely ace which should be a fun match though
Well, that depends. Starbuck is playing not as good as he could be today, in the normal season, he also took 4 kills against Axiom, so if he would play in his normal shape, things could look quite different.
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ACE MATCH
BRING BACK THE SJAAK
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On July 10 2014 04:01 Josh_Video wrote:
I guess we can just assume its going to be Sjaak again?
Yeah...and Ryung is gonna lose to dark templar cheese. I can see it.
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On July 10 2014 03:13 JimmiC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:06 TotalBiscuit wrote:You can't shit on the team league format, mouz signing new players in order to compete, AND just generally calling your players bad and not expect any repercussions. Yes yes I know, the community only wants honesty when it's what they want to hear. Do you not want humility? You don't want us to admit we're playing badly and that fans should be able to expect and deserve better than this? What the fuck do you want? It's been 4 years and I still can't figure out what it is the community actually wants from a teamowner, since it seems to change on a daily basis. The only rules I've figured out so far are 1) Community knows better than players on balance, do not discuss balance 2) Do not question anything TaKe does because Germany will get mad 3) Don't crowdfund things People want you to do it with class, not with the angst and whinyness of a spoiled 12 year old. Maybe look at nazgul no one "hates" on him. Did you ever consider that perhaps it's not the communities fault completely and your actions contribute to this? I'm going to be done posting because you clearly want to make this about you instead of the sc2 that is being played, and I don't want to contribute to it. Feel free to PM me anytime buddy, and good luck.
In every thread that's remotely about TB I see you hating on him. Someone is making this about TB and it's not him... Grow up.
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United States97276 Posts
winner take all all kill?
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France7248 Posts
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On July 10 2014 04:02 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
ACE MATCH
BRING BACK THE SJAAK
Yep, it's Sjaak.
Come on Ryung.....make it a free win.
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Oh lord. Inno is 33-4 this season? With four all-kills? I guess he gets the MVP award.
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This is tense....LET'S GO RYUNG!
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Belgica34432 Posts
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Just back home from work to watch the final match XD How has the day been so far? Anything recommended to watch?
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rofl aggressive GL HF MAN; out of Ryung!
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Gogo Ryung get Axiom across the finish line.
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United States97276 Posts
Poll: Who will win?Ryung (10) 50% Sjaak (10) 50% 20 total votes Your vote: Who will win? (Vote): Ryung
(Vote): Sjaak
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i think it's proxy stargate time
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On July 10 2014 04:07 Shellshock wrote:Poll: Who will win?Ryung (10) 50% Sjaak (10) 50% 20 total votes Your vote: Who will win? (Vote): Ryung
(Vote): Sjaak
Head or Heart?
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Funny how Sjaak's carrying the whole mouz team as soon as he gets signed. Such talent.
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United States97276 Posts
On July 10 2014 04:07 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 04:07 Shellshock wrote:Poll: Who will win?Ryung (10) 50% Sjaak (10) 50% 20 total votes Your vote: Who will win? (Vote): Ryung
(Vote): Sjaak
Head or Heart?
some strange fusion poll. Heard
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
On July 10 2014 04:08 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 04:07 Xoronius wrote:On July 10 2014 04:07 Shellshock wrote:Poll: Who will win?Ryung (10) 50% Sjaak (10) 50% 20 total votes Your vote: Who will win? (Vote): Ryung
(Vote): Sjaak
Head or Heart? some strange fusion poll. Heard
My ear says sjaak.
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On July 10 2014 04:08 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 04:07 Xoronius wrote:On July 10 2014 04:07 Shellshock wrote:Poll: Who will win?Ryung (10) 50% Sjaak (10) 50% 20 total votes Your vote: Who will win? (Vote): Ryung
(Vote): Sjaak
Head or Heart? some strange fusion poll. Heard
I heard protoss is op from twitch chat, so i guess i will go with Sjaak.
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Belgica34432 Posts
On July 10 2014 04:08 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 04:08 Shellshock wrote:On July 10 2014 04:07 Xoronius wrote:On July 10 2014 04:07 Shellshock wrote:Poll: Who will win?Ryung (10) 50% Sjaak (10) 50% 20 total votes Your vote: Who will win? (Vote): Ryung
(Vote): Sjaak
Head or Heart? some strange fusion poll. Heard My ear says sjaak.
Yeah, that name has a nice ryung to it
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On July 10 2014 04:07 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 04:07 Shellshock wrote:Poll: Who will win?Ryung (10) 50% Sjaak (10) 50% 20 total votes Your vote: Who will win? (Vote): Ryung
(Vote): Sjaak
Head or Heart?
Heardt
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On July 10 2014 04:07 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 04:07 Shellshock wrote:Poll: Who will win?Ryung (10) 50% Sjaak (10) 50% 20 total votes Your vote: Who will win? (Vote): Ryung
(Vote): Sjaak
Head or Heart?
Heart lost.
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On July 10 2014 04:07 Undead1993 wrote:
i think it's proxy stargate time
Coach Undead.
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On July 10 2014 04:10 Boucot wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 04:07 Xoronius wrote:On July 10 2014 04:07 Shellshock wrote:Poll: Who will win?Ryung (10) 50% Sjaak (10) 50% 20 total votes Your vote: Who will win? (Vote): Ryung
(Vote): Sjaak
Head or Heart? Heart lost.
Congratz to 9k!
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Incoming proxy stargate. C'mon Ryung, you've got this.
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Belgica34432 Posts
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On July 10 2014 04:10 DJHelium wrote:Coach Undead.
i know my protoss
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Sjaak might be able to do this.
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Belgica34432 Posts
Dat bait into two more oracles
and stim sniped holy shit
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hahaha who's ready for the bullshit
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We will interview Sjaak
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LOL hahahahahah that was so clutch
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TARGET THE SCVs GOD DAMMIT!
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On July 10 2014 04:13 blacksheepwall wrote:
TARGET THE SCVs GOD DAMMIT!
Like it even matters.
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Cheesy mofo.
Well 'gratz I guess...
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On July 10 2014 04:13 NarutO wrote:We will interview Sjaak
Remember stream delay
SJAAAAAAK!
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Well that is disappointing.
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Hahahahahahahahaha sjaaaaaaaaaaak
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United States97276 Posts
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On Mouz for one day and already an all kill
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Welp. Not looking forward to TB's anger after this.
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Ryung was so slow at repairing stim.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
My ear has a 100% prediction rate
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LOL GJ Sjaak! Very nice performance.
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thats pretty anticlimatic
:/
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Delayed all-kill. Don't swim with Sjaaks, Axiom 
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Good try multiple professional Korean adults, but 15 year old dutch kids are too much for you :p
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Whatever money Mouz earned from this they should just give directly to Sjaak, since nobody else did anything.
Congrats Sjaak. I'm sure he'll remember this game for a long time.
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Apparently twitch chat was right, Sjaak did win.
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So nice to see Sjaak taking 6 games vs koreans, showing that he is indeed one of the best players in the world.
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On July 10 2014 04:15 Fusilero wrote:
My ear has a 100% prediction rate
Expect lots of pm's from TL writers for predictions
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
On July 10 2014 04:14 Lorning wrote:
On Mouz for one day and already an all kill
Already accomplished nearly as much dear did in his entire time on mouz
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United States23455 Posts
On July 10 2014 04:16 Lorning wrote:Expect lots of pm's from TL writers for predictions
Being wrong is part of my charm
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Wait Khaldor just said its 5am in Korea? That's crazy that Axiom is playing this late.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On July 10 2014 04:16 Lorning wrote:Expect lots of pm's from TL writers for predictions
Sorry we don't usually deal in correct predictions
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Every time a foreigner does something like this, I think of Dayshi saying how it's almost never a terran player doing it (somewhat ironic, seeing as he is one of the players that has killed a lot of koreans).
With that said, obviously a great performance by Sjaak! Cool to see a new pickup do so well.
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On July 10 2014 04:15 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Good try multiple professional Korean adults, but 15 year old dutch kids are too much for you :p
When was the last time a 15 yo dutch kid beat a professional Korean adult?
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On July 10 2014 04:15 Extenz wrote:
Ryung was so slow at repairing stim.
Yeah, idk why he didnt pull scvs to repair
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sjaak to proleague please
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On July 10 2014 04:16 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 04:14 Lorning wrote:
On Mouz for one day and already an all kill Already accomplished nearly as much dear did in his entire time on mouz
Did he even have a day on mouz
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On July 10 2014 04:16 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 04:14 Lorning wrote:
On Mouz for one day and already an all kill Already accomplished nearly as much dear did in his entire time on mouz
Mouz management confirmed for knowing what they're doing
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jesus fucking christ, never heard of sjaak before and he just demolishes.. this has 0 to do with balance, not even in the slightest
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conference with hasu and sjaark plz
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It was really impresive how skillfully he pressed 1 and then a in quick succession.
User was warned for this post
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United States97276 Posts
On July 10 2014 04:18 SatedSC2 wrote:
Three all-kills..?
o_O
pretty much the story of this league
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Interview now in Take stream with Sjaak
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On July 10 2014 04:18 Shellshock wrote:pretty much the story of this league
How to win ATC;
Step 1. Buy yourself a Taeja or Innovation
Step 2. Wait.
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United States97276 Posts
On July 10 2014 04:19 Josh_Video wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 04:18 Shellshock wrote:On July 10 2014 04:18 SatedSC2 wrote:
Three all-kills..?
o_O pretty much the story of this league How to win ATC; Step 1. Buy yourself a Taeja or Innovation Step 2. Wait.
I think a little less than 1/3 of the games in ATC this season have been all kills. 21 all kills in 60 something games.
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On July 10 2014 04:19 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Interview now in Take stream with Sjaak
Yeah it was mentioned a minute ago.
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On July 10 2014 04:20 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 04:19 Josh_Video wrote:On July 10 2014 04:18 Shellshock wrote:On July 10 2014 04:18 SatedSC2 wrote:
Three all-kills..?
o_O pretty much the story of this league How to win ATC; Step 1. Buy yourself a Taeja or Innovation Step 2. Wait. I think a little less than 1/3 of the games in ATC this season have been all kills. 21 all kills in 60 something games.
Yeah, but even if someone doesn't All-kill, theres certainly a lot of 4 kills and then a cleanup.
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On July 10 2014 04:16 D-light wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 04:15 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Good try multiple professional Korean adults, but 15 year old dutch kids are too much for you :p When was the last time a 15 yo dutch kid beat a professional Korean adult?
Dreamhack Summer when Sjaak beat HyuN and Golden...
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Alright, finished just in time for me to get HYPED for the World Cup.
Hoping for another Dutch victory today. Gratz again Sjaak.
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On July 10 2014 04:19 Josh_Video wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 04:18 Shellshock wrote:On July 10 2014 04:18 SatedSC2 wrote:
Three all-kills..?
o_O pretty much the story of this league How to win ATC; Step 1. Buy yourself a Taeja or Innovation Step 2. Wait.
Taeja, Innovation or Sjaak!
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On July 10 2014 04:22 Crot4le wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 04:16 D-light wrote:On July 10 2014 04:15 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Good try multiple professional Korean adults, but 15 year old dutch kids are too much for you :p When was the last time a 15 yo dutch kid beat a professional Korean adult? Dreamhack Summer when Sjaak beat HyuN and Golden...
I meant another kid, since there was talk about "15 year old dutch kids" being too much for them.
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
"I only practice for 2 hours a day"
Not a new NaNiwa, a new Stephano
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Cocky sons of bitches.
I like Axiom's simple response:
[Seems to have been deleted but it said "classy".]
Humility is a good attribute to have guys.
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They mentioned "White Sjaak" as a nickname but I'm thinking "Bull Sjaak" on that theme
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On July 10 2014 04:16 Josh_Video wrote:
Wait Khaldor just said its 5am in Korea? That's crazy that Axiom is playing this late.
Yeah, that doesn't help matters.
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On July 10 2014 04:23 D-light wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 04:22 Crot4le wrote:On July 10 2014 04:16 D-light wrote:On July 10 2014 04:15 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Good try multiple professional Korean adults, but 15 year old dutch kids are too much for you :p When was the last time a 15 yo dutch kid beat a professional Korean adult? Dreamhack Summer when Sjaak beat HyuN and Golden... I meant another kid, since there was talk about "15 year old dutch kids" being too much for them.
I have no idea but if i had to guess then maybe Grubby in his WC3 days? But i guess he was older than 15..
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Sjaak wants to all kill tomorrow
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On July 10 2014 04:19 Josh_Video wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 04:18 Shellshock wrote:On July 10 2014 04:18 SatedSC2 wrote:
Three all-kills..?
o_O pretty much the story of this league How to win ATC; Step 1. Buy yourself a Taeja or Innovation Step 2. Wait.
One day ATC might actually involve having a TEAM rather than one really good player.
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Northern Ireland26094 Posts
Wow, Axiom are really consistent.
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On July 10 2014 04:24 Crot4le wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 04:16 Josh_Video wrote:
Wait Khaldor just said its 5am in Korea? That's crazy that Axiom is playing this late. Yeah, that doesn't help matters.
Yeah, thats kinda messed up, you would think they would try to get a better time.
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Awesome interview Sjaak, cool guy .
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On July 10 2014 04:26 betaman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 04:19 Josh_Video wrote:On July 10 2014 04:18 Shellshock wrote:On July 10 2014 04:18 SatedSC2 wrote:
Three all-kills..?
o_O pretty much the story of this league How to win ATC; Step 1. Buy yourself a Taeja or Innovation Step 2. Wait. One day ATC might actually involve having a TEAM rather than one really good player.
Not if its still All-Kill format with korean powerhouses on foreign teams.
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Maybe Axiom let MS win, because they didn't want Sjaak to be dropped from MS?
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On July 10 2014 04:25 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Sjaak wants to all kill tomorrow
All killing a team with either Taeja or Inno? Good luck.
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Wow, that made me laugh way harder than it should have. Who's in charge of TL's twitter account? Props to him.
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On July 10 2014 04:28 Josh_Video wrote:All killing a team with either Taeja or Inno? Good luck.
Sjaak will find a way
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On July 10 2014 04:30 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 04:28 Josh_Video wrote:On July 10 2014 04:25 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Sjaak wants to all kill tomorrow All killing a team with either Taeja or Inno? Good luck. Sjaak will find a way
I mean if either of them forgets to build turrets anything is technically possible.
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On July 10 2014 04:30 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 04:28 Josh_Video wrote:On July 10 2014 04:25 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Sjaak wants to all kill tomorrow All killing a team with either Taeja or Inno? Good luck. Sjaak will find a way
Maybe against Liquid if Taeja is slacking off, but Inno has only lost to four people this whole season; Tefel, San, Leenock and Heart.
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On July 09 2014 10:37 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 03:23 Yhamm wrote:
I wonder what TotalBiscuit thinks of those 2 recruitments 1-2 days before the start of ATC playoffs ^^ Our official position is "thanks for the free win", *insert popular online reference to sarcastic remark which is not explicitly allowed in the TL rules but we all know what it is anyway here*
If you dish it out, you have to be able to take it
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So in the end this turned out to be a very entertaining series, gg to both teams and see you guys tomorrow in WCS LR with hopefully less drama and a winning general.
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On July 10 2014 04:33 SpikeStarcraft wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 10:37 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 09 2014 03:23 Yhamm wrote:
I wonder what TotalBiscuit thinks of those 2 recruitments 1-2 days before the start of ATC playoffs ^^ Our official position is "thanks for the free win", *insert popular online reference to sarcastic remark which is not explicitly allowed in the TL rules but we all know what it is anyway here* If you dish it out, you have to be able to take it
One had a reason to be somewhat upset with how things were handled, the other did not. You could see how Axiom&TB would be somewhat angered by the sheer incompetence of the ATC admins.
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On July 10 2014 04:26 betaman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 04:19 Josh_Video wrote:
How to win ATC;
Step 1. Buy yourself a Taeja or Innovation
Step 2. Wait. One day ATC might actually involve having a TEAM rather than one really good player.
Yeah that's why I don't like the all-kill format that much. It can be very exciting to watch, but it just isn't a real team match if a single good player can carry the whole team.
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On July 10 2014 04:33 SpikeStarcraft wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 10:37 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 09 2014 03:23 Yhamm wrote:
I wonder what TotalBiscuit thinks of those 2 recruitments 1-2 days before the start of ATC playoffs ^^ Our official position is "thanks for the free win", *insert popular online reference to sarcastic remark which is not explicitly allowed in the TL rules but we all know what it is anyway here* If you dish it out, you have to be able to take it
The emote he was referring to was 'Kappa' which is used to indicate sarcasm, just so you know.
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these results were not expected. almost 2 all kills? lel
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On July 10 2014 04:37 Crot4le wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 04:33 SpikeStarcraft wrote:On July 09 2014 10:37 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 09 2014 03:23 Yhamm wrote:
I wonder what TotalBiscuit thinks of those 2 recruitments 1-2 days before the start of ATC playoffs ^^ Our official position is "thanks for the free win", *insert popular online reference to sarcastic remark which is not explicitly allowed in the TL rules but we all know what it is anyway here* If you dish it out, you have to be able to take it The emote he was referring to was 'Kappa' which is used to indicate sarcasm, just so you know.
But also as a general "troll face". Either way this all makes for some "salt" in the LR, and TB loves salty LR's. So it's all cool.
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On July 10 2014 04:27 Josh_Video wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 04:26 betaman wrote:On July 10 2014 04:19 Josh_Video wrote:On July 10 2014 04:18 Shellshock wrote:On July 10 2014 04:18 SatedSC2 wrote:
Three all-kills..?
o_O pretty much the story of this league How to win ATC; Step 1. Buy yourself a Taeja or Innovation Step 2. Wait. One day ATC might actually involve having a TEAM rather than one really good player. Not if its still All-Kill format with korean powerhouses on foreign teams.
Yeh, that's what I meant, I can dream they at least drop the revive rule. So the superstar player doesn't have to be sniped twice. Not likely with "big" teams like Mous and EG having so few players but then again it might force them into investing a bit more into SC2.
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On July 10 2014 04:37 Crot4le wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 04:33 SpikeStarcraft wrote:On July 09 2014 10:37 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 09 2014 03:23 Yhamm wrote:
I wonder what TotalBiscuit thinks of those 2 recruitments 1-2 days before the start of ATC playoffs ^^ Our official position is "thanks for the free win", *insert popular online reference to sarcastic remark which is not explicitly allowed in the TL rules but we all know what it is anyway here* If you dish it out, you have to be able to take it The emote he was referring to was 'Kappa' which is used to indicate sarcasm, just so you know.
I know.
TB makes jokes about their player, so Mouz rubs it in when exactly that player all-kills his team.
I would call it even. gg wp. Was a great series to watch.
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On July 10 2014 04:43 betaman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 04:27 Josh_Video wrote:On July 10 2014 04:26 betaman wrote:On July 10 2014 04:19 Josh_Video wrote:On July 10 2014 04:18 Shellshock wrote:On July 10 2014 04:18 SatedSC2 wrote:
Three all-kills..?
o_O pretty much the story of this league How to win ATC; Step 1. Buy yourself a Taeja or Innovation Step 2. Wait. One day ATC might actually involve having a TEAM rather than one really good player. Not if its still All-Kill format with korean powerhouses on foreign teams. Yeh, that's what I meant, I can dream they at least drop the revive rule. So the superstar player doesn't have to be sniped twice. Not likely with "big" teams like Mous and EG having so few players but then again it might force them into investing a bit more into SC2.
Well, EG is dropping all their team league commitments, and Mouz just grabbed two new players, so they could, but i doubt they will, because fan favorites (Who also happen to be the best (Inno, Taeja, HerO, MMA, Stardust)) are what everyone wants to see apparently, so this format lets them be seen twice. Inno vs Taeja is perceived to be more entertaining for fans than Taeja vs Bly, know what I Mean?
EDIT; I may be completely wrong as to why they have a revive rule, it may be to make it easier on teams, so they can play with only 4 players rather than 5, but that just makes it seems like teams can get away with having poor scheduling and communication.
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On July 10 2014 04:46 SpikeStarcraft wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 04:37 Crot4le wrote:On July 10 2014 04:33 SpikeStarcraft wrote:On July 09 2014 10:37 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 09 2014 03:23 Yhamm wrote:
I wonder what TotalBiscuit thinks of those 2 recruitments 1-2 days before the start of ATC playoffs ^^ Our official position is "thanks for the free win", *insert popular online reference to sarcastic remark which is not explicitly allowed in the TL rules but we all know what it is anyway here* If you dish it out, you have to be able to take it The emote he was referring to was 'Kappa' which is used to indicate sarcasm, just so you know. I know. TB makes jokes about their player, so Mouz rubs it in when exactly that player all-kills his team. I would call it even. gg wp. Was a great series to watch.
So it seems that first Axiom started the joke about Sjaak being a free win? then Mouz countered back with a joke after Sjaak won? and then Axoim followed that with "you should have humility"?
Whoa, who do you guys think is better Naniwa in his prime or Sjaak?!?
Poll: Who is better, Naniwa in his prime or Sjaak?Sjaak (25) 66% Prime Naniwa (13) 34% 38 total votes Your vote: Who is better, Naniwa in his prime or Sjaak? (Vote): Prime Naniwa
(Vote): Sjaak
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Using Bly as an example is not so good though as all his matches are entertaining
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On July 10 2014 04:52 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Using Bly as an example is not so good though as all his matches are entertaining
Thats a good point, maybe Taeja vs Paranoid.
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On July 10 2014 04:51 mikumegurine wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 04:46 SpikeStarcraft wrote:On July 10 2014 04:37 Crot4le wrote:On July 10 2014 04:33 SpikeStarcraft wrote:On July 09 2014 10:37 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 09 2014 03:23 Yhamm wrote:
I wonder what TotalBiscuit thinks of those 2 recruitments 1-2 days before the start of ATC playoffs ^^ Our official position is "thanks for the free win", *insert popular online reference to sarcastic remark which is not explicitly allowed in the TL rules but we all know what it is anyway here* If you dish it out, you have to be able to take it The emote he was referring to was 'Kappa' which is used to indicate sarcasm, just so you know. I know. TB makes jokes about their player, so Mouz rubs it in when exactly that player all-kills his team. I would call it even. gg wp. Was a great series to watch. So it seems that first Axiom started the joke about Sjaak being a free win? then Mouz countered back with a joke after Sjaak won? and then Axoim followed that with "you should have humility"? Whoa, who do you guys think is better Naniwa in his prime or Sjaak?!? Poll: Who is better, Naniwa in his prime or Sjaak?Sjaak (25) 66% Prime Naniwa (13) 34% 38 total votes Your vote: Who is better, Naniwa in his prime or Sjaak? (Vote): Prime Naniwa
(Vote): Sjaak
Sjaaks GSL championship is just a matter of time.
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On July 10 2014 04:33 SpikeStarcraft wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 10:37 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 09 2014 03:23 Yhamm wrote:
I wonder what TotalBiscuit thinks of those 2 recruitments 1-2 days before the start of ATC playoffs ^^ Our official position is "thanks for the free win", *insert popular online reference to sarcastic remark which is not explicitly allowed in the TL rules but we all know what it is anyway here* If you dish it out, you have to be able to take it
That's funny I don't recall Axiom gloating on Twitter after winning, not even when they beat mouz 5-0. You'd think mouz would have a little humility, especially considering how lucky they were to get into the playoffs in the first place.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On July 10 2014 05:55 Crot4le wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 04:33 SpikeStarcraft wrote:On July 09 2014 10:37 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 09 2014 03:23 Yhamm wrote:
I wonder what TotalBiscuit thinks of those 2 recruitments 1-2 days before the start of ATC playoffs ^^ Our official position is "thanks for the free win", *insert popular online reference to sarcastic remark which is not explicitly allowed in the TL rules but we all know what it is anyway here* If you dish it out, you have to be able to take it That's funny I don't recall Axiom gloating on Twitter after winning, not even when they beat mouz 5-0. You'd think mouz would have a little humility, especially considering how lucky they were to get into the playoffs in the first place.
Typically, humility is a virtue of those who actually believe(d) in themselves. I find it difficult to believe that mouz thought they were going to win, and the typical reaction to a surprise win is often to act like the win was actually a foregone conclusion. The only one with a right to gloat is Sjaak himself haha
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On July 10 2014 05:59 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 05:55 Crot4le wrote:On July 10 2014 04:33 SpikeStarcraft wrote:On July 09 2014 10:37 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 09 2014 03:23 Yhamm wrote:
I wonder what TotalBiscuit thinks of those 2 recruitments 1-2 days before the start of ATC playoffs ^^ Our official position is "thanks for the free win", *insert popular online reference to sarcastic remark which is not explicitly allowed in the TL rules but we all know what it is anyway here* If you dish it out, you have to be able to take it That's funny I don't recall Axiom gloating on Twitter after winning, not even when they beat mouz 5-0. You'd think mouz would have a little humility, especially considering how lucky they were to get into the playoffs in the first place. Typically, humility is a virtue of those who actually believe(d) in themselves. I find it difficult to believe that mouz thought they were going to win, and the typical reaction to a surprise win is often to act like the win was actually a foregone conclusion. The only one with a right to gloat is Sjaak himself haha
If Sjaak was a little cocky I'd think he was arrogant and a bad sport, yet I would understand. But for a professional team to rub it in tweeting at theur opponent after a close victory is out of order.
And I stress that this isn't me being butthurt after defeat, I'd be really disappointed in Axiom if they did the same thing. Thankfully they don't. They have more class.
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On July 10 2014 06:04 Crot4le wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 05:59 Zealously wrote:On July 10 2014 05:55 Crot4le wrote:On July 10 2014 04:33 SpikeStarcraft wrote:On July 09 2014 10:37 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 09 2014 03:23 Yhamm wrote:
I wonder what TotalBiscuit thinks of those 2 recruitments 1-2 days before the start of ATC playoffs ^^ Our official position is "thanks for the free win", *insert popular online reference to sarcastic remark which is not explicitly allowed in the TL rules but we all know what it is anyway here* If you dish it out, you have to be able to take it That's funny I don't recall Axiom gloating on Twitter after winning, not even when they beat mouz 5-0. You'd think mouz would have a little humility, especially considering how lucky they were to get into the playoffs in the first place. Typically, humility is a virtue of those who actually believe(d) in themselves. I find it difficult to believe that mouz thought they were going to win, and the typical reaction to a surprise win is often to act like the win was actually a foregone conclusion. The only one with a right to gloat is Sjaak himself haha If Sjaak was a little cocky I'd think he was arrogant and a bad sport, yet I would understand. But for a professional team to rub it in tweeting at theur opponent after a close victory is out of order. And I stress that this isn't me being butthurt after defeat, I'd be really disappointed in Axiom if they did the same thing. Thankfully they don't. They have more class.
Ofc you're butthurt and hypocritical. TB is allowed to make jokes and snarky remarks about everyone but if someone dares to step up and be snarky back its classless, cocky and arrogant.
Just call it even and be done with it. I dunno why you guys always feel the need to take banter so personal.
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On July 10 2014 06:04 Crot4le wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 05:59 Zealously wrote:On July 10 2014 05:55 Crot4le wrote:On July 10 2014 04:33 SpikeStarcraft wrote:On July 09 2014 10:37 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 09 2014 03:23 Yhamm wrote:
I wonder what TotalBiscuit thinks of those 2 recruitments 1-2 days before the start of ATC playoffs ^^ Our official position is "thanks for the free win", *insert popular online reference to sarcastic remark which is not explicitly allowed in the TL rules but we all know what it is anyway here* If you dish it out, you have to be able to take it That's funny I don't recall Axiom gloating on Twitter after winning, not even when they beat mouz 5-0. You'd think mouz would have a little humility, especially considering how lucky they were to get into the playoffs in the first place. Typically, humility is a virtue of those who actually believe(d) in themselves. I find it difficult to believe that mouz thought they were going to win, and the typical reaction to a surprise win is often to act like the win was actually a foregone conclusion. The only one with a right to gloat is Sjaak himself haha If Sjaak was a little cocky I'd think he was arrogant and a bad sport, yet I would understand. But for a professional team to rub it in tweeting at theur opponent after a close victory is out of order. And I stress that this isn't me being butthurt after defeat, I'd be really disappointed in Axiom if they did the same thing. Thankfully they don't. They have more class.
from the posts so far it seems Axiom/TB started it first by calling Sjaak a free win? or was this a lie?
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Wow, all kill format indeed.
All 4 teams got 100% of their wins from one player today: Innovation, Taeja, Ryung and Sjaak.
Innovation is now on a 19 map win-streak, and 4 all kill (Jaedong comes 2nd with 2 all kills lol). At this point, I think Innovation is certain to finish #1 overall in the individual standings.
And now we get to see Liquid-Acer once more....
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On July 10 2014 06:34 Bagration wrote:
Wow, all kill format indeed.
All 4 teams got 100% of their wins from one player today: Innovation, Taeja, Ryung and Sjaak.
Innovation is now on a 19 map win-streak, and 4 all kill (Jaedong comes 2nd with 2 all kills lol). At this point, I think Innovation is certain to finish #1 overall in the individual standings.
And now we get to see Liquid-Acer once more....
yea take a top Proleague player and put him into the ATC Teamkill format...going to be great results
like put sos or a soulkey etc on a team in ATC...whoa the allkills going to be numerous
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On July 10 2014 06:42 mikumegurine wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 06:34 Bagration wrote:
Wow, all kill format indeed.
All 4 teams got 100% of their wins from one player today: Innovation, Taeja, Ryung and Sjaak.
Innovation is now on a 19 map win-streak, and 4 all kill (Jaedong comes 2nd with 2 all kills lol). At this point, I think Innovation is certain to finish #1 overall in the individual standings.
And now we get to see Liquid-Acer once more.... yea take a top Proleague player and put him into the ATC Teamkill format...going to be great results like put sos or a soulkey etc on a team in ATC...whoa the allkills going to be numerous
It's even more terrifying since there's a revive.
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On July 10 2014 06:21 SpikeStarcraft wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 06:04 Crot4le wrote:On July 10 2014 05:59 Zealously wrote:On July 10 2014 05:55 Crot4le wrote:On July 10 2014 04:33 SpikeStarcraft wrote:On July 09 2014 10:37 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 09 2014 03:23 Yhamm wrote:
I wonder what TotalBiscuit thinks of those 2 recruitments 1-2 days before the start of ATC playoffs ^^ Our official position is "thanks for the free win", *insert popular online reference to sarcastic remark which is not explicitly allowed in the TL rules but we all know what it is anyway here* If you dish it out, you have to be able to take it That's funny I don't recall Axiom gloating on Twitter after winning, not even when they beat mouz 5-0. You'd think mouz would have a little humility, especially considering how lucky they were to get into the playoffs in the first place. Typically, humility is a virtue of those who actually believe(d) in themselves. I find it difficult to believe that mouz thought they were going to win, and the typical reaction to a surprise win is often to act like the win was actually a foregone conclusion. The only one with a right to gloat is Sjaak himself haha If Sjaak was a little cocky I'd think he was arrogant and a bad sport, yet I would understand. But for a professional team to rub it in tweeting at theur opponent after a close victory is out of order. And I stress that this isn't me being butthurt after defeat, I'd be really disappointed in Axiom if they did the same thing. Thankfully they don't. They have more class. Ofc you're butthurt and hypocritical. TB is allowed to make jokes and snarky remarks about everyone but if someone dares to step up and be snarky back its classless, cocky and arrogant. Just call it even and be done with it. I dunno why you guys always feel the need to take banter so personal.
Nope. I'm not being butthurt and hypocritical. This is what I posted on the Reddit thread immediately after this game: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/2a9jac/mousesports_54_axiom_in_atc_quarterfinals/cissp14?context=3
Sjaak so goddamn cheesy but I can't bring myself to hate him because of how hard he has been working this past year, but still very naive and disappointing play from the Axiom guys.
Congrats mouz and good luck in the semi-final.
Sjaak such a sick pick-up though, there's no doubt about that now.
If that's being butthurt and hypocritical, I don't know what's not. I think you'll find that I also congratulated mouz in this thread yet you seem too conveniently overlook that fact in your accusation.
However, mouz gloating on Twitter is really disrespectful. You say it's hypocrisy because TotalBiscuit does it too but I can't ever remember TotalBiscuit winding up an opposing team after Axiom beat them. Good luck to you finding an example of that.
As I said, if Axiom did the same I'd call them out too but they don't because they have more class than that. If Ryung won the ace match at Axiom tweeted "@mousesports You guys just got #Ryunged" I would say that's disrespectful and uncalled for. It's a lack of total class and your unwillingness to call your team out on it shows that you lack class as well.
I hope you get trounced by TL/Acer in the losers' finals. I look forward to it, and I will merrily gloat in your face if you do so we can see how you like it. Karma can be a bitch sometimes.
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On July 10 2014 06:42 mikumegurine wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 06:34 Bagration wrote:
Wow, all kill format indeed.
All 4 teams got 100% of their wins from one player today: Innovation, Taeja, Ryung and Sjaak.
Innovation is now on a 19 map win-streak, and 4 all kill (Jaedong comes 2nd with 2 all kills lol). At this point, I think Innovation is certain to finish #1 overall in the individual standings.
And now we get to see Liquid-Acer once more.... yea take a top Proleague player and put him into the ATC Teamkill format...going to be great results like put sos or a soulkey etc on a team in ATC...whoa the allkills going to be numerous
SKT1 or KT Rolster would win the ATC without breaking a sweat.
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On July 10 2014 07:01 Crot4le wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 06:21 SpikeStarcraft wrote:On July 10 2014 06:04 Crot4le wrote:On July 10 2014 05:59 Zealously wrote:On July 10 2014 05:55 Crot4le wrote:On July 10 2014 04:33 SpikeStarcraft wrote:On July 09 2014 10:37 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 09 2014 03:23 Yhamm wrote:
I wonder what TotalBiscuit thinks of those 2 recruitments 1-2 days before the start of ATC playoffs ^^ Our official position is "thanks for the free win", *insert popular online reference to sarcastic remark which is not explicitly allowed in the TL rules but we all know what it is anyway here* If you dish it out, you have to be able to take it That's funny I don't recall Axiom gloating on Twitter after winning, not even when they beat mouz 5-0. You'd think mouz would have a little humility, especially considering how lucky they were to get into the playoffs in the first place. Typically, humility is a virtue of those who actually believe(d) in themselves. I find it difficult to believe that mouz thought they were going to win, and the typical reaction to a surprise win is often to act like the win was actually a foregone conclusion. The only one with a right to gloat is Sjaak himself haha If Sjaak was a little cocky I'd think he was arrogant and a bad sport, yet I would understand. But for a professional team to rub it in tweeting at theur opponent after a close victory is out of order. And I stress that this isn't me being butthurt after defeat, I'd be really disappointed in Axiom if they did the same thing. Thankfully they don't. They have more class. Ofc you're butthurt and hypocritical. TB is allowed to make jokes and snarky remarks about everyone but if someone dares to step up and be snarky back its classless, cocky and arrogant. Just call it even and be done with it. I dunno why you guys always feel the need to take banter so personal. Nope. I'm not being butthurt and hypocritical. This is what I posted on the Reddit thread immediately after this game: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/2a9jac/mousesports_54_axiom_in_atc_quarterfinals/cissp14?context=3Show nested quote +Sjaak so goddamn cheesy but I can't bring myself to hate him because of how hard he has been working this past year, but still very naive and disappointing play from the Axiom guys.
Congrats mouz and good luck in the semi-final.
Sjaak such a sick pick-up though, there's no doubt about that now. If that's being butthurt and hypocritical, I don't know what's not. I think you'll find that I also congratulated mouz in this thread yet you seem too conveniently overlook that fact in your accusation. However, mouz gloating on Twitter is really disrespectful. You say it's hypocrisy because TotalBiscuit does it too but I can't ever remember TotalBiscuit winding up an opposing team after Axiom beat them. Good luck to you finding an example of that. As I said, if Axiom did the same I'd call them out too but they don't because they have more class than that. If Ryung won the ace match at Axiom tweeted "@mousesports You guys just got #Ryunged" I would say that's disrespectful and uncalled for. It's a lack of total class and your unwillingness to call your team out on it shows that you lack class as well. I hope you get trounced by TL/Acer in the losers' finals. I look forward to it, and I will merrily gloat in your face if you do so we can see how you like it. Karma can be a bitch sometimes.
Why does there always have to be drama? It's just trash talk after a match; that is completely normal. TL and Acer have regular banter on twitter before and after series, EG and TL used to do the same, when EG was still one of the premier teams. NASL 2 had similar banter between EG and Mouz and nobody complained back than. The winner of a match will always have the oppurtunity and the right to trash talk a bit and I would'nt feel offended if Axiom would have sent a similar text, should they have won. You shouldn't feel offended either, as this was clearly not aimed personally at someone. Just chill out a bit.
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On July 10 2014 07:47 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 07:01 Crot4le wrote:On July 10 2014 06:21 SpikeStarcraft wrote:On July 10 2014 06:04 Crot4le wrote:On July 10 2014 05:59 Zealously wrote:On July 10 2014 05:55 Crot4le wrote:On July 10 2014 04:33 SpikeStarcraft wrote:On July 09 2014 10:37 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 09 2014 03:23 Yhamm wrote:
I wonder what TotalBiscuit thinks of those 2 recruitments 1-2 days before the start of ATC playoffs ^^ Our official position is "thanks for the free win", *insert popular online reference to sarcastic remark which is not explicitly allowed in the TL rules but we all know what it is anyway here* If you dish it out, you have to be able to take it That's funny I don't recall Axiom gloating on Twitter after winning, not even when they beat mouz 5-0. You'd think mouz would have a little humility, especially considering how lucky they were to get into the playoffs in the first place. Typically, humility is a virtue of those who actually believe(d) in themselves. I find it difficult to believe that mouz thought they were going to win, and the typical reaction to a surprise win is often to act like the win was actually a foregone conclusion. The only one with a right to gloat is Sjaak himself haha If Sjaak was a little cocky I'd think he was arrogant and a bad sport, yet I would understand. But for a professional team to rub it in tweeting at theur opponent after a close victory is out of order. And I stress that this isn't me being butthurt after defeat, I'd be really disappointed in Axiom if they did the same thing. Thankfully they don't. They have more class. Ofc you're butthurt and hypocritical. TB is allowed to make jokes and snarky remarks about everyone but if someone dares to step up and be snarky back its classless, cocky and arrogant. Just call it even and be done with it. I dunno why you guys always feel the need to take banter so personal. Nope. I'm not being butthurt and hypocritical. This is what I posted on the Reddit thread immediately after this game: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/2a9jac/mousesports_54_axiom_in_atc_quarterfinals/cissp14?context=3Sjaak so goddamn cheesy but I can't bring myself to hate him because of how hard he has been working this past year, but still very naive and disappointing play from the Axiom guys.
Congrats mouz and good luck in the semi-final.
Sjaak such a sick pick-up though, there's no doubt about that now. If that's being butthurt and hypocritical, I don't know what's not. I think you'll find that I also congratulated mouz in this thread yet you seem too conveniently overlook that fact in your accusation. However, mouz gloating on Twitter is really disrespectful. You say it's hypocrisy because TotalBiscuit does it too but I can't ever remember TotalBiscuit winding up an opposing team after Axiom beat them. Good luck to you finding an example of that. As I said, if Axiom did the same I'd call them out too but they don't because they have more class than that. If Ryung won the ace match at Axiom tweeted "@mousesports You guys just got #Ryunged" I would say that's disrespectful and uncalled for. It's a lack of total class and your unwillingness to call your team out on it shows that you lack class as well. I hope you get trounced by TL/Acer in the losers' finals. I look forward to it, and I will merrily gloat in your face if you do so we can see how you like it. Karma can be a bitch sometimes. Why does there always have to be drama? It's just trash talk after a match; that is completely normal. TL and Acer have regular banter on twitter before and after series, EG and TL used to do the same, when EG was still one of the premier teams. NASL 2 had similar banter between EG and Mouz and nobody complained back than. The winner of a match will always have the oppurtunity and the right to trash talk a bit and I would'nt feel offended if Axiom would have sent a similar text, should they have won. You shouldn't feel offended either, as this was clearly not aimed personally at someone. Just chill out a bit.
Why is it that people always say "chill out" when they see someone call something out on the internet? Do you really think that I am angrily bashing away at my keyboard red in the face with foam coming out of my mouth? I am perfectly chilled you know, gutted that Axiom lost today of course, but otherwise I am a very happy bunny indeed.
I'm just saying that what mousesports did was disrespectful, at best it was lacking tact, and I don't really like them as a team. I don't know what's so controversial about that?
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It was just some friendly banter. Happens all the time in every sport.
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On July 10 2014 07:53 Crot4le wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 07:47 Xoronius wrote:On July 10 2014 07:01 Crot4le wrote:On July 10 2014 06:21 SpikeStarcraft wrote:On July 10 2014 06:04 Crot4le wrote:On July 10 2014 05:59 Zealously wrote:On July 10 2014 05:55 Crot4le wrote:On July 10 2014 04:33 SpikeStarcraft wrote:On July 09 2014 10:37 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 09 2014 03:23 Yhamm wrote:
I wonder what TotalBiscuit thinks of those 2 recruitments 1-2 days before the start of ATC playoffs ^^ Our official position is "thanks for the free win", *insert popular online reference to sarcastic remark which is not explicitly allowed in the TL rules but we all know what it is anyway here* If you dish it out, you have to be able to take it That's funny I don't recall Axiom gloating on Twitter after winning, not even when they beat mouz 5-0. You'd think mouz would have a little humility, especially considering how lucky they were to get into the playoffs in the first place. Typically, humility is a virtue of those who actually believe(d) in themselves. I find it difficult to believe that mouz thought they were going to win, and the typical reaction to a surprise win is often to act like the win was actually a foregone conclusion. The only one with a right to gloat is Sjaak himself haha If Sjaak was a little cocky I'd think he was arrogant and a bad sport, yet I would understand. But for a professional team to rub it in tweeting at theur opponent after a close victory is out of order. And I stress that this isn't me being butthurt after defeat, I'd be really disappointed in Axiom if they did the same thing. Thankfully they don't. They have more class. Ofc you're butthurt and hypocritical. TB is allowed to make jokes and snarky remarks about everyone but if someone dares to step up and be snarky back its classless, cocky and arrogant. Just call it even and be done with it. I dunno why you guys always feel the need to take banter so personal. Nope. I'm not being butthurt and hypocritical. This is what I posted on the Reddit thread immediately after this game: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/2a9jac/mousesports_54_axiom_in_atc_quarterfinals/cissp14?context=3Sjaak so goddamn cheesy but I can't bring myself to hate him because of how hard he has been working this past year, but still very naive and disappointing play from the Axiom guys.
Congrats mouz and good luck in the semi-final.
Sjaak such a sick pick-up though, there's no doubt about that now. If that's being butthurt and hypocritical, I don't know what's not. I think you'll find that I also congratulated mouz in this thread yet you seem too conveniently overlook that fact in your accusation. However, mouz gloating on Twitter is really disrespectful. You say it's hypocrisy because TotalBiscuit does it too but I can't ever remember TotalBiscuit winding up an opposing team after Axiom beat them. Good luck to you finding an example of that. As I said, if Axiom did the same I'd call them out too but they don't because they have more class than that. If Ryung won the ace match at Axiom tweeted "@mousesports You guys just got #Ryunged" I would say that's disrespectful and uncalled for. It's a lack of total class and your unwillingness to call your team out on it shows that you lack class as well. I hope you get trounced by TL/Acer in the losers' finals. I look forward to it, and I will merrily gloat in your face if you do so we can see how you like it. Karma can be a bitch sometimes. Why does there always have to be drama? It's just trash talk after a match; that is completely normal. TL and Acer have regular banter on twitter before and after series, EG and TL used to do the same, when EG was still one of the premier teams. NASL 2 had similar banter between EG and Mouz and nobody complained back than. The winner of a match will always have the oppurtunity and the right to trash talk a bit and I would'nt feel offended if Axiom would have sent a similar text, should they have won. You shouldn't feel offended either, as this was clearly not aimed personally at someone. Just chill out a bit. Why is it that people always say "chill out" when they see someone call something out on the internet? Do you really think that I am angrily bashing away at my keyboard red in the face with foam coming out of my mouth? I am perfectly chilled you know, gutted that Axiom lost today of course, but otherwise I am a very happy bunny indeed. I'm just saying that what mousesports did was disrespectful, at best it was lacking tact, and I don't really like them as a team. I don't know what's so controversial about that?
did u not see that it was perhaps TB started it and who provoked Mouz tweet?
1. TB/Axiom says Sjaak is a Free Win
2. Sjaak all kills Axiom, and Mouz tweets with a counter, "You've been Sjaaked"
3. TB/Axiom responds, "You should show some humility."
Anyhow TB afterwards posted in his blog, and there was an apology for calling Sjaak free and such
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On July 10 2014 07:53 Crot4le wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 07:47 Xoronius wrote:
Why does there always have to be drama? It's just trash talk after a match; that is completely normal. TL and Acer have regular banter on twitter before and after series, EG and TL used to do the same, when EG was still one of the premier teams. NASL 2 had similar banter between EG and Mouz and nobody complained back than. The winner of a match will always have the oppurtunity and the right to trash talk a bit and I would'nt feel offended if Axiom would have sent a similar text, should they have won. You shouldn't feel offended either, as this was clearly not aimed personally at someone. Just chill out a bit. Why is it that people always say "chill out" when they see someone call something out on the internet? Do you really think that I am angrily bashing away at my keyboard red in the face with foam coming out of my mouth? I am perfectly chilled you know, gutted that Axiom lost today of course, but otherwise I am a very happy bunny indeed. I'm just saying that what mousesports did was disrespectful, at best it was lacking tact, and I don't really like them as a team. I don't know what's so controversial about that?
"chill out" in this case just means to stop blowing up drama, where there is no drama. You might be perfectly happy, but you are still complaining about a simple tweet over multiple pages now, which blows it out of proportion. To quote from TB's blog:
On July 10 2014 06:08 TotalBiscuit wrote:
When Sjaak was hired I made a flippant remark that was meant in the spirit of friendly banter. [...]
The risk of banter is of course that it blows back in your face and this time it certainly did. There's enough humble pie here to feed us for days.
For me this would indicate, that he views the response as just that: Banter blowing up in Axioms face in the form of counter-banter, which is also not to be taken personally (Interpretation here,TB, if I should be wrong just tell me and I'll edit it out).
Statements like the following (sentence goes on afterwards)
On July 10 2014 07:01 Crot4le wrote:
I hope you get trounced by TL/Acer in the losers' finals. I look forward to it, and I will merrily gloat in your face if you do so we can see how you like it. Karma can be a bitch sometimes.
indicate, that you take this far to serious, when neither TB nor mouz or anyone else involved do. Like I said, it is nothing more than friendly banter, so yeah, feel free to rub a possible LB final loss in our face, should it happen, but don't wonder, if we are less serious about it.
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On July 10 2014 08:08 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 07:53 Crot4le wrote:On July 10 2014 07:47 Xoronius wrote:
Why does there always have to be drama? It's just trash talk after a match; that is completely normal. TL and Acer have regular banter on twitter before and after series, EG and TL used to do the same, when EG was still one of the premier teams. NASL 2 had similar banter between EG and Mouz and nobody complained back than. The winner of a match will always have the oppurtunity and the right to trash talk a bit and I would'nt feel offended if Axiom would have sent a similar text, should they have won. You shouldn't feel offended either, as this was clearly not aimed personally at someone. Just chill out a bit. Why is it that people always say "chill out" when they see someone call something out on the internet? Do you really think that I am angrily bashing away at my keyboard red in the face with foam coming out of my mouth? I am perfectly chilled you know, gutted that Axiom lost today of course, but otherwise I am a very happy bunny indeed. I'm just saying that what mousesports did was disrespectful, at best it was lacking tact, and I don't really like them as a team. I don't know what's so controversial about that? "chill out" in this case just means to stop blowing up drama, where there is no drama. You might be perfectly happy, but you are still complaining about a simple tweet over multiple pages now, which blows it out of proportion. To quote from TB's blog: Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 06:08 TotalBiscuit wrote:
When Sjaak was hired I made a flippant remark that was meant in the spirit of friendly banter. [...]
The risk of banter is of course that it blows back in your face and this time it certainly did. There's enough humble pie here to feed us for days.
For me this would indicate, that he views the response as just that: Banter blowing up in Axioms face in the form of counter-banter, which is also not to be taken personally (Interpretation here,TB, if I should be wrong just tell me and I'll edit it out). Statements like the following (sentence goes on afterwards) Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 07:01 Crot4le wrote:
I hope you get trounced by TL/Acer in the losers' finals. I look forward to it, and I will merrily gloat in your face if you do so we can see how you like it. Karma can be a bitch sometimes.
indicate, that you take this far to serious, when neither TB nor mouz or anyone else involved do. Like I said, it is nothing more than friendly banter, so yeah, feel free to rub a possible LB final loss in our face, should it happen, but don't wonder, if we are less serious about it.
TB was being sarcastic and you know it. Besides, I also think there's a big difference in 'fighting talk' and 'banter' before a match and actually rubbing your opponents face in it after the match has already been played.
Guess we'll have to agree to disagree but I still think it was out of order and I would be disappointed in Axiom if they did that.
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On July 10 2014 02:34 Zheryn wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:30 boxerfred wrote:Faceless foreigners winning everything. #dedgame If you hadn't put that winkey face there you'd be getting rekt by mods!
after my just 2 day ban, I was making sure.
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On July 10 2014 08:18 Crot4le wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 08:08 Xoronius wrote:On July 10 2014 07:53 Crot4le wrote:On July 10 2014 07:47 Xoronius wrote:
Why does there always have to be drama? It's just trash talk after a match; that is completely normal. TL and Acer have regular banter on twitter before and after series, EG and TL used to do the same, when EG was still one of the premier teams. NASL 2 had similar banter between EG and Mouz and nobody complained back than. The winner of a match will always have the oppurtunity and the right to trash talk a bit and I would'nt feel offended if Axiom would have sent a similar text, should they have won. You shouldn't feel offended either, as this was clearly not aimed personally at someone. Just chill out a bit. Why is it that people always say "chill out" when they see someone call something out on the internet? Do you really think that I am angrily bashing away at my keyboard red in the face with foam coming out of my mouth? I am perfectly chilled you know, gutted that Axiom lost today of course, but otherwise I am a very happy bunny indeed. I'm just saying that what mousesports did was disrespectful, at best it was lacking tact, and I don't really like them as a team. I don't know what's so controversial about that? "chill out" in this case just means to stop blowing up drama, where there is no drama. You might be perfectly happy, but you are still complaining about a simple tweet over multiple pages now, which blows it out of proportion. To quote from TB's blog: On July 10 2014 06:08 TotalBiscuit wrote:
When Sjaak was hired I made a flippant remark that was meant in the spirit of friendly banter. [...]
The risk of banter is of course that it blows back in your face and this time it certainly did. There's enough humble pie here to feed us for days.
For me this would indicate, that he views the response as just that: Banter blowing up in Axioms face in the form of counter-banter, which is also not to be taken personally (Interpretation here,TB, if I should be wrong just tell me and I'll edit it out). Statements like the following (sentence goes on afterwards) On July 10 2014 07:01 Crot4le wrote:
I hope you get trounced by TL/Acer in the losers' finals. I look forward to it, and I will merrily gloat in your face if you do so we can see how you like it. Karma can be a bitch sometimes.
indicate, that you take this far to serious, when neither TB nor mouz or anyone else involved do. Like I said, it is nothing more than friendly banter, so yeah, feel free to rub a possible LB final loss in our face, should it happen, but don't wonder, if we are less serious about it. TB was being sarcastic and you know it. Besides, I also think there's a big difference in 'fighting talk' and 'banter' before a match and actually rubbing your opponents face in it after the match has already been played. Guess we'll have to agree to disagree but I still think it was out of order and I would be disappointed in Axiom if they did that.
Yes, I know it. That's why I said "also not to be taken serious". Because neuither of the invloved parties are serious with their banter. Anyway, as you said, we shouldn't discuss about it further, it's probably just a slight cultural difference.
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"Haha your player is a freewin because he's new to the scene" - allowed
"Haha that player you thought was a freewin all killed your team" - not allowed
got it!
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3. TB/Axiom responds, "You should show some humility."
I never said this. I'm totally fine with Mousesports trash-talk, we deserved it. If Axiom said this that wasn't me doing it, I don't have control over the Axiom twitter account.
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On July 10 2014 06:21 SpikeStarcraft wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 06:04 Crot4le wrote:On July 10 2014 05:59 Zealously wrote:On July 10 2014 05:55 Crot4le wrote:On July 10 2014 04:33 SpikeStarcraft wrote:On July 09 2014 10:37 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 09 2014 03:23 Yhamm wrote:
I wonder what TotalBiscuit thinks of those 2 recruitments 1-2 days before the start of ATC playoffs ^^ Our official position is "thanks for the free win", *insert popular online reference to sarcastic remark which is not explicitly allowed in the TL rules but we all know what it is anyway here* If you dish it out, you have to be able to take it That's funny I don't recall Axiom gloating on Twitter after winning, not even when they beat mouz 5-0. You'd think mouz would have a little humility, especially considering how lucky they were to get into the playoffs in the first place. Typically, humility is a virtue of those who actually believe(d) in themselves. I find it difficult to believe that mouz thought they were going to win, and the typical reaction to a surprise win is often to act like the win was actually a foregone conclusion. The only one with a right to gloat is Sjaak himself haha If Sjaak was a little cocky I'd think he was arrogant and a bad sport, yet I would understand. But for a professional team to rub it in tweeting at theur opponent after a close victory is out of order. And I stress that this isn't me being butthurt after defeat, I'd be really disappointed in Axiom if they did the same thing. Thankfully they don't. They have more class. Ofc you're butthurt and hypocritical. TB is allowed to make jokes and snarky remarks about everyone but if someone dares to step up and be snarky back its classless, cocky and arrogant. Just call it even and be done with it. I dunno why you guys always feel the need to take banter so personal.
I'm not really sure what happened today as I was out all day but the bolded part caught my eye. WHY THE HELL IS TB ALLOWED TO POST THE THINGS HE POSTS AND GET AWAY SCOTT FREE (AKA NOT WARNED OR BANNED) WHEN IF A NORMAL FORUM MEMBER LIKE I OR ANYONE ELSE WILL INSTANTLY GET BANNED? This double standard really pisses me off. I've seen so many of his posts and a lot of them just irks me. Yes I know TL has a rule where community figure are given more lax rules but I personally feel TB takes it to a whole new level. He can get pretty insulting at times and it's just. UGH downright terrible not only on his personal image, but on his team and players as a whole. It doesn't do the community any good either because people WILL flame back.
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On July 10 2014 12:53 geokilla wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 06:21 SpikeStarcraft wrote:On July 10 2014 06:04 Crot4le wrote:On July 10 2014 05:59 Zealously wrote:On July 10 2014 05:55 Crot4le wrote:On July 10 2014 04:33 SpikeStarcraft wrote:On July 09 2014 10:37 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 09 2014 03:23 Yhamm wrote:
I wonder what TotalBiscuit thinks of those 2 recruitments 1-2 days before the start of ATC playoffs ^^ Our official position is "thanks for the free win", *insert popular online reference to sarcastic remark which is not explicitly allowed in the TL rules but we all know what it is anyway here* If you dish it out, you have to be able to take it That's funny I don't recall Axiom gloating on Twitter after winning, not even when they beat mouz 5-0. You'd think mouz would have a little humility, especially considering how lucky they were to get into the playoffs in the first place. Typically, humility is a virtue of those who actually believe(d) in themselves. I find it difficult to believe that mouz thought they were going to win, and the typical reaction to a surprise win is often to act like the win was actually a foregone conclusion. The only one with a right to gloat is Sjaak himself haha If Sjaak was a little cocky I'd think he was arrogant and a bad sport, yet I would understand. But for a professional team to rub it in tweeting at theur opponent after a close victory is out of order. And I stress that this isn't me being butthurt after defeat, I'd be really disappointed in Axiom if they did the same thing. Thankfully they don't. They have more class. Ofc you're butthurt and hypocritical. TB is allowed to make jokes and snarky remarks about everyone but if someone dares to step up and be snarky back its classless, cocky and arrogant. Just call it even and be done with it. I dunno why you guys always feel the need to take banter so personal. I'm not really sure what happened today as I was out all day but the bolded part caught my eye. WHY THE HELL IS TB ALLOWED TO POST THE THINGS HE POSTS AND GET AWAY SCOTT FREE (AKA NOT WARNED OR BANNED) WHEN IF A NORMAL FORUM MEMBER LIKE I OR ANYONE ELSE WILL INSTANTLY GET BANNED? This double standard really pisses me off. I've seen so many of his posts and a lot of them just irks me. Yes I know TL has a rule where community figure are given more lax rules but I personally feel TB takes it to a whole new level. He can get pretty insulting at times and it's just. UGH downright terrible not only on his personal image, but on his team and players as a whole. It doesn't do the community any good either because people WILL flame back.
Yeah yeah yeah, yet more of this. We've heard it all before. There is no double standard, it's in the rules that community figures get more leighway and no wonder, they have to deal with being constantly harassed by people just out to get their pound of flesh. You freely admit you weren't even around today, you had no idea what happened, but I SAW SOMETHING BAD ABOUT TB, TIME TO GET MY JAB IN WHILE I CAN. And you wonder why I'm so defensive all the time, geez.
I've said it before and I'll stick by it, the only people who get "flamed" by me are the people who provoked it in the first place. You might think it affects my personal image, you're entitled to that opinion, I don't share it.
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All Kill Format really makes for some disappointing series, The losers final was fun though, shame Axiom lost but hey can't win them all
But the format just kills me, it's like we should just one guy from each team and have them play a best of 7. You have an "Ace" player and no one else gets close unless they make an error, so you just have to wait around and hope your ace can snipe their ace when they get revived
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On July 10 2014 12:53 geokilla wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 06:21 SpikeStarcraft wrote:On July 10 2014 06:04 Crot4le wrote:On July 10 2014 05:59 Zealously wrote:On July 10 2014 05:55 Crot4le wrote:On July 10 2014 04:33 SpikeStarcraft wrote:On July 09 2014 10:37 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 09 2014 03:23 Yhamm wrote:
I wonder what TotalBiscuit thinks of those 2 recruitments 1-2 days before the start of ATC playoffs ^^ Our official position is "thanks for the free win", *insert popular online reference to sarcastic remark which is not explicitly allowed in the TL rules but we all know what it is anyway here* If you dish it out, you have to be able to take it That's funny I don't recall Axiom gloating on Twitter after winning, not even when they beat mouz 5-0. You'd think mouz would have a little humility, especially considering how lucky they were to get into the playoffs in the first place. Typically, humility is a virtue of those who actually believe(d) in themselves. I find it difficult to believe that mouz thought they were going to win, and the typical reaction to a surprise win is often to act like the win was actually a foregone conclusion. The only one with a right to gloat is Sjaak himself haha If Sjaak was a little cocky I'd think he was arrogant and a bad sport, yet I would understand. But for a professional team to rub it in tweeting at theur opponent after a close victory is out of order. And I stress that this isn't me being butthurt after defeat, I'd be really disappointed in Axiom if they did the same thing. Thankfully they don't. They have more class. Ofc you're butthurt and hypocritical. TB is allowed to make jokes and snarky remarks about everyone but if someone dares to step up and be snarky back its classless, cocky and arrogant. Just call it even and be done with it. I dunno why you guys always feel the need to take banter so personal. I'm not really sure what happened today as I was out all day but the bolded part caught my eye. WHY THE HELL IS TB ALLOWED TO POST THE THINGS HE POSTS AND GET AWAY SCOTT FREE (AKA NOT WARNED OR BANNED) WHEN IF A NORMAL FORUM MEMBER LIKE I OR ANYONE ELSE WILL INSTANTLY GET BANNED? This double standard really pisses me off. I've seen so many of his posts and a lot of them just irks me. Yes I know TL has a rule where community figure are given more lax rules but I personally feel TB takes it to a whole new level. He can get pretty insulting at times and it's just. UGH downright terrible not only on his personal image, but on his team and players as a whole. It doesn't do the community any good either because people WILL flame back.
Huh? I don't think "thanks for the free win" is exactly something requiring mod action. Nothing wrong with a little light trash talk, keeps things interesting.
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How is Sjaak such a beast?
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On July 10 2014 13:30 TotalBiscuit wrote:
I've said it before and I'll stick by it, the only people who get "flamed" by me are the people who provoked it in the first place. You might think it affects my personal image, you're entitled to that opinion, I don't share it.
Lets be honest it doesn't take much to provoke you.
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On July 10 2014 13:30 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 12:53 geokilla wrote:On July 10 2014 06:21 SpikeStarcraft wrote:On July 10 2014 06:04 Crot4le wrote:On July 10 2014 05:59 Zealously wrote:On July 10 2014 05:55 Crot4le wrote:On July 10 2014 04:33 SpikeStarcraft wrote:On July 09 2014 10:37 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 09 2014 03:23 Yhamm wrote:
I wonder what TotalBiscuit thinks of those 2 recruitments 1-2 days before the start of ATC playoffs ^^ Our official position is "thanks for the free win", *insert popular online reference to sarcastic remark which is not explicitly allowed in the TL rules but we all know what it is anyway here* If you dish it out, you have to be able to take it That's funny I don't recall Axiom gloating on Twitter after winning, not even when they beat mouz 5-0. You'd think mouz would have a little humility, especially considering how lucky they were to get into the playoffs in the first place. Typically, humility is a virtue of those who actually believe(d) in themselves. I find it difficult to believe that mouz thought they were going to win, and the typical reaction to a surprise win is often to act like the win was actually a foregone conclusion. The only one with a right to gloat is Sjaak himself haha If Sjaak was a little cocky I'd think he was arrogant and a bad sport, yet I would understand. But for a professional team to rub it in tweeting at theur opponent after a close victory is out of order. And I stress that this isn't me being butthurt after defeat, I'd be really disappointed in Axiom if they did the same thing. Thankfully they don't. They have more class. Ofc you're butthurt and hypocritical. TB is allowed to make jokes and snarky remarks about everyone but if someone dares to step up and be snarky back its classless, cocky and arrogant. Just call it even and be done with it. I dunno why you guys always feel the need to take banter so personal. I'm not really sure what happened today as I was out all day but the bolded part caught my eye. WHY THE HELL IS TB ALLOWED TO POST THE THINGS HE POSTS AND GET AWAY SCOTT FREE (AKA NOT WARNED OR BANNED) WHEN IF A NORMAL FORUM MEMBER LIKE I OR ANYONE ELSE WILL INSTANTLY GET BANNED? This double standard really pisses me off. I've seen so many of his posts and a lot of them just irks me. Yes I know TL has a rule where community figure are given more lax rules but I personally feel TB takes it to a whole new level. He can get pretty insulting at times and it's just. UGH downright terrible not only on his personal image, but on his team and players as a whole. It doesn't do the community any good either because people WILL flame back. Yeah yeah yeah, yet more of this. We've heard it all before. There is no double standard, it's in the rules that community figures get more leighway and no wonder, they have to deal with being constantly harassed by people just out to get their pound of flesh. You freely admit you weren't even around today, you had no idea what happened, but I SAW SOMETHING BAD ABOUT TB, TIME TO GET MY JAB IN WHILE I CAN. And you wonder why I'm so defensive all the time, geez. I've said it before and I'll stick by it, the only people who get "flamed" by me are the people who provoked it in the first place. You might think it affects my personal image, you're entitled to that opinion, I don't share it.
You're hardly defensive, you're more on the offensive side of things. But you're also taking almost every bait that goes beyond "u mad tb" so I guess you deserve those discussions on TL. It's not like you absolutely hate them, you wouldn't hang out here if you'd hate them I bet.
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No vods for the playoffs yet? I checked all the stream links but none of them have playoff vods.
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