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On April 28 2013 08:00 Mackus wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 07:57 12D3 wrote:On April 28 2013 07:50 Mackus wrote:
So what did we learn this tournament;
Dreamhack is still the best tournament organiser out there (Hi Blizzard)
Leenock is prob the best Zerg on the planet at this moment
Nani could probably still cut it in the later rounds in Code S. Yes Leenock didn't even make it out of the R032 in the current GSL Nani could be in Code S, but not in the later rounds. As I said, Leenock got bounced in the first round. Leenock did not get "bounced" he just sucked with his build order choices, everyone's entitled to a shit day. So good that a shit day consists of beating Life in the process.
Okay, but how does winning this tournament prove he's better than Life? Or any of the other top Korean zergs who weren't in attendance?
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On April 28 2013 08:06 Ventris wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 08:04 Asymmetric wrote:On April 28 2013 08:04 lungic wrote:On April 28 2013 08:03 Asymmetric wrote:I wish the UK got some loving from anyone  You got that DeMuslim guy, Oh wait ... I mean tournaments/events. Not players. UK could be acceptable, I guess. But now that you mention it, you are pretty underdeveloped in terms of major events. Even Romania beats you.
Nope, I-series is much bigger than any even most countries have, but people just don't tune in
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so what we learned. Zergs still powerful. Protoss is getting better but still needs buffing. and Terrans n perhaps need a buff as well.
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On April 28 2013 08:08 chatuka wrote:
so what we learned. Zergs still powerful. Protoss is getting better but still needs buffing. and Terrans n perhaps need a buff as well.
I hope you're trolling
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On April 28 2013 08:08 WhX wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 08:06 MuseMike wrote:On April 28 2013 08:06 StarStruck wrote:On April 28 2013 08:03 MuseMike wrote:On April 28 2013 08:02 StarStruck wrote:On April 28 2013 08:01 Philozovic wrote:On April 28 2013 07:52 Emzeeshady wrote:On April 28 2013 07:51 Undead1993 wrote:On April 28 2013 07:51 BeiHuoJingHua wrote:On April 28 2013 07:50 BeyondCtrL wrote:
Hmm, Nani sits as best foreigner now, don't think there are any serious disputes to that for the moment :3 lol? he is right, nothing to lol here Really? He had a REALLY easy road to the finals. All foreigners to the R08 and then someone with incredibly shit ZvP. Naniwa beat MC and YugiHo during group stage, then TLO, Sort Of, Jaedong and then went toes to toes with Leenock .... Who can top that as a foreigner ? Stephano ? ... As much as I love the kid he lost RO16 against coca after having the easiest group ever. Lucifron ? RO64 ..... Any other Terran ? LOL Sase maybe ? Ro16 WCS and an ok run, loosing to Hyun is no shame but that doesn't match what naniwa did We will see after WCS europ, but frankly I don't see who can dispute him the throne right now and even if he is not #1 there is nothing tot lol about. Still bitter about Lucifron losing out because of a stupid coin-flip. Dude deserved to make the next stage. Technically he deserved what he got. He knew the rules going in. Winning one more map would be "deserving". Uh huh. I think you're just one of those guys who likes to argue for the sake of arguing after reading several of your posts. Excellent post, great addition to the discussion. He had multiple chance to win in tie breakers did he? No. Rules are rules. Wow, he's right though...
My point still stands, Lucifron had multiple tie breakers and he couldn't get it done. This is not a tournament where tyhey can spend 10 hours going through 10 rounds of tie breakers.
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I really enjoyed this tournament
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On April 28 2013 08:08 chatuka wrote:
so what we learned. Zergs still powerful. Protoss is getting better but still needs buffing. and Terrans n perhaps need a buff as well.
nah
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On April 28 2013 08:08 StarStruck wrote:You know those trends work very similar to how YouTube does their suggested videos per user? ._. I actually find it weird that DH isn't on there.
Strange, cause im not even spanish/ SA
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Leenock played really well. But damn those mutas as scary at high level as on ladder O.O
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Leenocktopus wins!
A valiant effort by naniwa.
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On April 28 2013 08:08 chatuka wrote:
so what we learned. Zergs still powerful. Protoss is getting better but still needs buffing. and Terrans n perhaps need a buff as well.
Maybe we learned the game overall is great and ZvZ needs a solution to Muta vs muta. No buffs or nerfs needed based on 1 tournament.
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On April 28 2013 08:08 chatuka wrote:
so what we learned. Zergs still powerful. Protoss is getting better but still needs buffing. and Terrans n perhaps need a buff as well.
Uhhhhhhhh.........................
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Is there any reason the prize money is so low? I was sort of shocked just now upon checking Liquipedia that Leenock only won around $9,000. Assumed he had just won $50K or so!
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On April 28 2013 08:01 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 07:58 Rainfall7711 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On April 28 2013 07:52 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 07:51 Undead1993 wrote:On April 28 2013 07:51 BeiHuoJingHua wrote:On April 28 2013 07:50 BeyondCtrL wrote:
Hmm, Nani sits as best foreigner now, don't think there are any serious disputes to that for the moment :3 lol? he is right, nothing to lol here Really? He had a REALLY easy road to the finals. All foreigners to the R08 and then someone with incredibly shit ZvP. REALLY?? REALLY? you're one of those guys. Most moronic comment of the post. Check his groups and his run. Beating all those opponents and driving Leenock to the final game. Solid play throughout. Out playing Leenock in both the games he won. REALLY EASY. Fuck off. You have no idea about starcraft, Dude calm down. I know he beat Yugioh and MC so obviously he had to play well to get to this point. You can't deny though he can a far easier run then Leenock for example. Saying that he is clearly the best foreigner right now is just dumb. Lucifron got coin flipped out. Stephano had to play his worst matchup vs a top Korean. Vortix and Scarlett weren't even here. There is no reason to say Naniwa is undisputedly the best foreigner.
Everybody chill please.
People tend to measure the level of progamers based on one tournament result which has a lot to do with luck.
Every other day I hear "XYZ is currently the best player in the world/foreigner". I think there should be some kind of continuity in results, not "ZOMFGLOL PLAYER X WAS RANKED 2; HE IS THE BEST FOREIGNER ATM", when clearly, some of the top foreigners did not show up...
For example in the case of Stephano, you might want to say that he was THE BEST foreigner at some point.
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Great tournament, but sad that only 2 Terrans made it to RO16
I'd love to see Polt crush Leenoch, but I'm satisfied with the results anyways :D
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man this ceremony was so awesome because of leenock being such a likeable and nice guy! and we had actually a foreigner in the finals even though so many good koreans were there! such a good tournament! GG dreamhack!
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On April 28 2013 08:06 BlackCompany wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 08:04 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On April 28 2013 08:03 BlackCompany wrote:On April 28 2013 08:01 Shikyo wrote:On April 28 2013 08:00 BlackCompany wrote:On April 28 2013 08:00 kafkaesque wrote:
Man, every Dreamhack is the best Dreamhack ever... THis! You always think it can't get better.. but then the next one is! Not really. Lack of Bo5s was quite disappointing... They had enough downtime too, imo. Still it was quite good especially with Naniwa doing so well. Well might be because my memory is quite bad, can't rememmber that much about last dreamhack  well bo5 should have started in the semis atleast i guess, your right. for watching at home i personally don't mind a little downtime though, so i can do some other things and come back when the games start. + the DJ was amazing during downtime :D For their regular events they do Bo3 until finals which are Bo5. Last season's Winter finale was Bo5 from Ro12 to Ro4 with Bo7 finals. Well if they expand to bo5 quarter/semis and bo7 finals for their regular events they would need an additional day probably, guess thats why they keep it shorter
There was quite a bit of idle time between games today, and with NASL they could have had another stream for longer (maybe up until the semis). Who knows what their reasons for the Bo3 decisions are, but "time" and "game coverage" don't seem very convincing.
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On April 28 2013 08:08 Rostam wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 08:00 Mackus wrote:On April 28 2013 07:57 12D3 wrote:On April 28 2013 07:50 Mackus wrote:
So what did we learn this tournament;
Dreamhack is still the best tournament organiser out there (Hi Blizzard)
Leenock is prob the best Zerg on the planet at this moment
Nani could probably still cut it in the later rounds in Code S. Yes Leenock didn't even make it out of the R032 in the current GSL Nani could be in Code S, but not in the later rounds. As I said, Leenock got bounced in the first round. Leenock did not get "bounced" he just sucked with his build order choices, everyone's entitled to a shit day. So good that a shit day consists of beating Life in the process. Okay, but how does winning this tournament prove he's better than Life? Or any of the other top Korean zergs who weren't in attendance?
Fanboys, anyone who says someone is the best anything is usually fanboying unless it is an era of clear dominance like Flash/JD/others had. MVP had an era like that as well. I don't think anyone would say the same for Leenock.
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nice tournament DH. Will be back for the next one again 
GG Leenock, well deserved win.
Personally I am happy that some euroboys atleast give the koreans some good matches at the bigger euro tourneys. Always nice to have a foreign hope alive in the later stages.
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On April 28 2013 08:09 FallDownMarigold wrote:
Is there any reason the prize money is so low? I was sort of shocked just now upon checking Liquipedia that Leenock only won around $9,000. Assumed he had just won $50K or so!
Look at the amount of events Dreamhack has for this year.
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