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On October 11 2012 04:39 redviper wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2012 03:19 partysnatcher wrote:On October 11 2012 03:05 Ysellian wrote:On October 11 2012 02:36 partysnatcher wrote:
I state my impressions about MVP feeling overrated, and tons of fanboys bring in their emotion-based arguments on why MVP is so amasazing. Ah, the irony!
So here are my personal reasons why I, personally (ie, just me - you don't have to agree), consider him overrated:
1. There are known players with far better single skills than MVP (decision making, micro, macro, multifronting), and thus I personally find him boring and unspectacular in comparison to guys like MMA, Taeja, Stephano, Hero, MKP, Rain, MC etc. I have a personal preference towards players with a focused skillset, so I personally like these kinds of players better.
2. Most of his wins came in a period where the game, the metagame and the map-pool was imbalanced in favor of the race he played, 40-50% of the players in Code S were Terrans, and most of his games were GOMTvTs.
And, most importantly:
3. He is, as we see in this thread, worshipped as the best player in SC2 history. I consider him the most-winning. Not the best. I personally would prefer a scenario where MVP loses in the final, because I think he has enough money and wins, more than I think he deserves, as an entertainer and a player.
The end. What makes Rain and Stephano more enjoyable than MVP? Honest question, because I feel these two players in particular have plenty of similarities in their play style. A defensive macro orientated strategy focusing more on out thinking their opponents than out microing / out multitasking their opponents. (with even the occasional cheese thrown into the mix) My favorite part of Rain's play is his approach to engagements, the way he chooses his concaves and sets up his damage (storms or colossus). I enjoy the way he has reinvented P by using Zealots as his opportunity unit and by reducing the sentry count. Other than that, I agree that his skillset overlaps with MVP ("bulletproof" builds, great decision making etc). As for Stephano, he is a macro and build beast, and there's a reason why Jaedong himself expressed enthusiasm for his style. I'm not a huge fan of watching Stephanos games, but I like that he exists because he has perfected a niche. My favorite part of Rain's play is how he lost to mvp this morning. My favorite part of Stephano's play is how he isn't even in the GSL. My favorite part of Jaedong's play is that he dropped to Code B after getting a free seed. My favorite part of mvp's play is that he is the only bonjwa today.
Only he isn't? lol
I didnt know Nada, oov and savior died.
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These last two pages have become the SRS of teamliquid.
What a sad fucking day.
Always somebody thats wants to spoil a good moment with their hate. And then justifying it with unsubstantial circular logic in an effort to seem less like a troll.
Okay.
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I really like MVP but it's so hard to support him when you know this forum will be awash with nerf zerg, nerf broodlords posts if Life wins the final unless MVP falls apart, which he won't. On the other hand if he wins then he's the best player on planet etc. <3 MVP </3 MVP fans.
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On October 11 2012 04:56 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2012 04:39 redviper wrote:On October 11 2012 03:19 partysnatcher wrote:On October 11 2012 03:05 Ysellian wrote:On October 11 2012 02:36 partysnatcher wrote:
I state my impressions about MVP feeling overrated, and tons of fanboys bring in their emotion-based arguments on why MVP is so amasazing. Ah, the irony!
So here are my personal reasons why I, personally (ie, just me - you don't have to agree), consider him overrated:
1. There are known players with far better single skills than MVP (decision making, micro, macro, multifronting), and thus I personally find him boring and unspectacular in comparison to guys like MMA, Taeja, Stephano, Hero, MKP, Rain, MC etc. I have a personal preference towards players with a focused skillset, so I personally like these kinds of players better.
2. Most of his wins came in a period where the game, the metagame and the map-pool was imbalanced in favor of the race he played, 40-50% of the players in Code S were Terrans, and most of his games were GOMTvTs.
And, most importantly:
3. He is, as we see in this thread, worshipped as the best player in SC2 history. I consider him the most-winning. Not the best. I personally would prefer a scenario where MVP loses in the final, because I think he has enough money and wins, more than I think he deserves, as an entertainer and a player.
The end. What makes Rain and Stephano more enjoyable than MVP? Honest question, because I feel these two players in particular have plenty of similarities in their play style. A defensive macro orientated strategy focusing more on out thinking their opponents than out microing / out multitasking their opponents. (with even the occasional cheese thrown into the mix) My favorite part of Rain's play is his approach to engagements, the way he chooses his concaves and sets up his damage (storms or colossus). I enjoy the way he has reinvented P by using Zealots as his opportunity unit and by reducing the sentry count. Other than that, I agree that his skillset overlaps with MVP ("bulletproof" builds, great decision making etc). As for Stephano, he is a macro and build beast, and there's a reason why Jaedong himself expressed enthusiasm for his style. I'm not a huge fan of watching Stephanos games, but I like that he exists because he has perfected a niche. My favorite part of Rain's play is how he lost to mvp this morning. My favorite part of Stephano's play is how he isn't even in the GSL. My favorite part of Jaedong's play is that he dropped to Code B after getting a free seed. My favorite part of mvp's play is that he is the only bonjwa today. Only he isn't? lol I didnt know Nada, oov and savior died.
saviors soul died. if that counts lol
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On October 11 2012 04:26 partysnatcher wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2012 04:16 mrtomjones wrote:On October 11 2012 02:36 partysnatcher wrote:
I state my impressions about MVP feeling overrated, and tons of fanboys bring in their emotion-based arguments on why MVP is so amasazing. Ah, the irony!
So here are my personal reasons why I, personally (ie, just me - you don't have to agree), consider him overrated:
1. There are known players with far better single skills than MVP (decision making, micro, macro, multifronting), and thus I personally find him boring and unspectacular in comparison to guys like MMA, Taeja, Stephano, Hero, MKP, Rain, MC etc. I have a personal preference towards players with a focused skillset, so I personally like these kinds of players better.
2. Most of his wins came in a period where the game, the metagame and the map-pool was imbalanced in favor of the race he played, 40-50% of the players in Code S were Terrans, and most of his games were GOMTvTs.
And, most importantly:
3. He is, as we see in this thread, worshipped as the best player in SC2 history. I consider him the most-winning. Not the best. I personally would prefer a scenario where MVP loses in the final, because I think he has enough money and wins, more than I think he deserves, as an entertainer and a player.
The end. You call him overrated and for ages I have been voting against him myself. But how can you justify calling him overrated when he makes 2 GSL finals in a row, while having severe problems with his wrists? which don't allow him to practice as he would want to. You were obviously an upset fanboy. I am not a big MVP fan but he is simply amazing and no one, and I repeat NO ONE can come close to claiming they are better SC2 players over the life of the game so far than him. MC and Nestea would be the only other ones who had such sustained dominance and Nestea is basically gone and MC is simply a good Protoss now who can turn it on at times. Your posts and reasoning are quite laughable too. How can you be the most winning(Then AND now) player ever by a long shot and not the best? Get over yourself. I call him overrated not because of his performances, but because of the amount of emotional worship he receives, despite people being unable to point out any distinct strengths besides pure mindgames. The wrist problems I hear a lot of talk about, but MVP keeps playing and winning high-APM games, so until he starts conceding matches or seeming untrained, it looks like he really has no big problems (TLO had to stop playing completely) If you want to use wins only as argument for success, then how about this? http://sc2earnings.com/?year=2012 (Stephano #1, MVP #6). Anyway this is getting emotional and fanboyish again so I'm just going to peace out.
What's most hilarious about your "emotional and fanboyish" conclusion is that in reality no one is acting like either of these things. The guy you responded to even states he isn't a big MVP fan. Lines like this where you make a ridiculous claim and then peace out because of it are other ways of saying "your right, I have no argument."
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MVP is the most fucking underrated player of all time. Nodoby ever fucking makes him the favorite, and he wins every time! Can no one see this?
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On October 11 2012 04:26 partysnatcher wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2012 04:16 mrtomjones wrote:On October 11 2012 02:36 partysnatcher wrote:
I state my impressions about MVP feeling overrated, and tons of fanboys bring in their emotion-based arguments on why MVP is so amasazing. Ah, the irony!
So here are my personal reasons why I, personally (ie, just me - you don't have to agree), consider him overrated:
1. There are known players with far better single skills than MVP (decision making, micro, macro, multifronting), and thus I personally find him boring and unspectacular in comparison to guys like MMA, Taeja, Stephano, Hero, MKP, Rain, MC etc. I have a personal preference towards players with a focused skillset, so I personally like these kinds of players better.
2. Most of his wins came in a period where the game, the metagame and the map-pool was imbalanced in favor of the race he played, 40-50% of the players in Code S were Terrans, and most of his games were GOMTvTs.
And, most importantly:
3. He is, as we see in this thread, worshipped as the best player in SC2 history. I consider him the most-winning. Not the best. I personally would prefer a scenario where MVP loses in the final, because I think he has enough money and wins, more than I think he deserves, as an entertainer and a player.
The end. You call him overrated and for ages I have been voting against him myself. But how can you justify calling him overrated when he makes 2 GSL finals in a row, while having severe problems with his wrists? which don't allow him to practice as he would want to. You were obviously an upset fanboy. I am not a big MVP fan but he is simply amazing and no one, and I repeat NO ONE can come close to claiming they are better SC2 players over the life of the game so far than him. MC and Nestea would be the only other ones who had such sustained dominance and Nestea is basically gone and MC is simply a good Protoss now who can turn it on at times. Your posts and reasoning are quite laughable too. How can you be the most winning(Then AND now) player ever by a long shot and not the best? Get over yourself. I call him overrated not because of his performances, but because of the amount of emotional worship he receives, despite people being unable to point out any distinct strengths besides pure mindgames. The wrist problems I hear a lot of talk about, but MVP keeps playing and winning high-APM games, so until he starts conceding matches or seeming untrained, it looks like he really has no big problems (TLO had to stop playing completely) If you want to use wins only as argument for success, then how about this? http://sc2earnings.com/?year=2012 (Stephano #1, MVP #6). Anyway this is getting emotional and fanboyish again so I'm just going to peace out.
Perhaps you don't understand the game enough to trully appreciate MVP's skill. He works the same like Flash did in BW, there's nothing particulary strong about them, they're just good at everything.
In one of the interviews MVP said that he thinks there's plenty of people who are better then him, better micro, better macro. It's just that he wins, they don't.
Yes, it's more fun to watch some wacky stuff, insane feats of micro and so on. Watch Happy or MKP do their splits all day and be impressed, but when it comes to winning it's MVP you want.
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MVP isn't fancy like the other terrans and I love it. Same for Taeja but it turns out he was a bit too predictable. Amazing play by Life I can't believe how good he is. I'm really sad for Taeja I feel he would of bested MVP but Life won't. Taeja's lack of good zerg practice partners really showed.
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Norway10161 Posts
Agree with Steel. Mvp still feels like the TheMarine/Xellos/Flash of sc2 - he does the standard stuff and plays safe untill an opening presents itself.
Yet somehow he is so exiting. Not because he is flashy, but because he keeps being the underdog and keeps winning against the fresh young blood.
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On October 11 2012 05:08 rysecake wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2012 04:56 sharkie wrote:On October 11 2012 04:39 redviper wrote:On October 11 2012 03:19 partysnatcher wrote:On October 11 2012 03:05 Ysellian wrote:On October 11 2012 02:36 partysnatcher wrote:
I state my impressions about MVP feeling overrated, and tons of fanboys bring in their emotion-based arguments on why MVP is so amasazing. Ah, the irony!
So here are my personal reasons why I, personally (ie, just me - you don't have to agree), consider him overrated:
1. There are known players with far better single skills than MVP (decision making, micro, macro, multifronting), and thus I personally find him boring and unspectacular in comparison to guys like MMA, Taeja, Stephano, Hero, MKP, Rain, MC etc. I have a personal preference towards players with a focused skillset, so I personally like these kinds of players better.
2. Most of his wins came in a period where the game, the metagame and the map-pool was imbalanced in favor of the race he played, 40-50% of the players in Code S were Terrans, and most of his games were GOMTvTs.
And, most importantly:
3. He is, as we see in this thread, worshipped as the best player in SC2 history. I consider him the most-winning. Not the best. I personally would prefer a scenario where MVP loses in the final, because I think he has enough money and wins, more than I think he deserves, as an entertainer and a player.
The end. What makes Rain and Stephano more enjoyable than MVP? Honest question, because I feel these two players in particular have plenty of similarities in their play style. A defensive macro orientated strategy focusing more on out thinking their opponents than out microing / out multitasking their opponents. (with even the occasional cheese thrown into the mix) My favorite part of Rain's play is his approach to engagements, the way he chooses his concaves and sets up his damage (storms or colossus). I enjoy the way he has reinvented P by using Zealots as his opportunity unit and by reducing the sentry count. Other than that, I agree that his skillset overlaps with MVP ("bulletproof" builds, great decision making etc). As for Stephano, he is a macro and build beast, and there's a reason why Jaedong himself expressed enthusiasm for his style. I'm not a huge fan of watching Stephanos games, but I like that he exists because he has perfected a niche. My favorite part of Rain's play is how he lost to mvp this morning. My favorite part of Stephano's play is how he isn't even in the GSL. My favorite part of Jaedong's play is that he dropped to Code B after getting a free seed. My favorite part of mvp's play is that he is the only bonjwa today. Only he isn't? lol I didnt know Nada, oov and savior died. saviors soul died. if that counts lol
God, makes me sad every time I am reminded of the whole situation. Raw talent wise, I don't know if we will ever see anyone like savior.. I don't know how much people follow football, but it really reminds me of Maurice Clarett at Ohio State 10 years ago. Broke records as a freshman, super talented, then made some terrible decisions and we never got to see his full potential. Still no idea why or how savior could do this stuff, he was making a lot of money, and he was on top...
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On October 11 2012 05:50 onPHYRE wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2012 05:08 rysecake wrote:On October 11 2012 04:56 sharkie wrote:On October 11 2012 04:39 redviper wrote:On October 11 2012 03:19 partysnatcher wrote:On October 11 2012 03:05 Ysellian wrote:On October 11 2012 02:36 partysnatcher wrote:
I state my impressions about MVP feeling overrated, and tons of fanboys bring in their emotion-based arguments on why MVP is so amasazing. Ah, the irony!
So here are my personal reasons why I, personally (ie, just me - you don't have to agree), consider him overrated:
1. There are known players with far better single skills than MVP (decision making, micro, macro, multifronting), and thus I personally find him boring and unspectacular in comparison to guys like MMA, Taeja, Stephano, Hero, MKP, Rain, MC etc. I have a personal preference towards players with a focused skillset, so I personally like these kinds of players better.
2. Most of his wins came in a period where the game, the metagame and the map-pool was imbalanced in favor of the race he played, 40-50% of the players in Code S were Terrans, and most of his games were GOMTvTs.
And, most importantly:
3. He is, as we see in this thread, worshipped as the best player in SC2 history. I consider him the most-winning. Not the best. I personally would prefer a scenario where MVP loses in the final, because I think he has enough money and wins, more than I think he deserves, as an entertainer and a player.
The end. What makes Rain and Stephano more enjoyable than MVP? Honest question, because I feel these two players in particular have plenty of similarities in their play style. A defensive macro orientated strategy focusing more on out thinking their opponents than out microing / out multitasking their opponents. (with even the occasional cheese thrown into the mix) My favorite part of Rain's play is his approach to engagements, the way he chooses his concaves and sets up his damage (storms or colossus). I enjoy the way he has reinvented P by using Zealots as his opportunity unit and by reducing the sentry count. Other than that, I agree that his skillset overlaps with MVP ("bulletproof" builds, great decision making etc). As for Stephano, he is a macro and build beast, and there's a reason why Jaedong himself expressed enthusiasm for his style. I'm not a huge fan of watching Stephanos games, but I like that he exists because he has perfected a niche. My favorite part of Rain's play is how he lost to mvp this morning. My favorite part of Stephano's play is how he isn't even in the GSL. My favorite part of Jaedong's play is that he dropped to Code B after getting a free seed. My favorite part of mvp's play is that he is the only bonjwa today. Only he isn't? lol I didnt know Nada, oov and savior died. saviors soul died. if that counts lol God, makes me sad every time I am reminded of the whole situation. Raw talent wise, I don't know if we will ever see anyone like savior.. I don't know how much people follow football, but it really reminds me of Maurice Clarett at Ohio State 10 years ago. Broke records as a freshman, super talented, then made some terrible decisions and we never got to see his full potential. Still no idea why or how savior could do this stuff, he was making a lot of money, and he was on top...
false savior 
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I wanted to see Taeja MVP gomTvT so badly =(
good luck to Life regardless
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On October 11 2012 05:27 Andr3 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2012 04:26 partysnatcher wrote:On October 11 2012 04:16 mrtomjones wrote:On October 11 2012 02:36 partysnatcher wrote:
I state my impressions about MVP feeling overrated, and tons of fanboys bring in their emotion-based arguments on why MVP is so amasazing. Ah, the irony!
So here are my personal reasons why I, personally (ie, just me - you don't have to agree), consider him overrated:
1. There are known players with far better single skills than MVP (decision making, micro, macro, multifronting), and thus I personally find him boring and unspectacular in comparison to guys like MMA, Taeja, Stephano, Hero, MKP, Rain, MC etc. I have a personal preference towards players with a focused skillset, so I personally like these kinds of players better.
2. Most of his wins came in a period where the game, the metagame and the map-pool was imbalanced in favor of the race he played, 40-50% of the players in Code S were Terrans, and most of his games were GOMTvTs.
And, most importantly:
3. He is, as we see in this thread, worshipped as the best player in SC2 history. I consider him the most-winning. Not the best. I personally would prefer a scenario where MVP loses in the final, because I think he has enough money and wins, more than I think he deserves, as an entertainer and a player.
The end. You call him overrated and for ages I have been voting against him myself. But how can you justify calling him overrated when he makes 2 GSL finals in a row, while having severe problems with his wrists? which don't allow him to practice as he would want to. You were obviously an upset fanboy. I am not a big MVP fan but he is simply amazing and no one, and I repeat NO ONE can come close to claiming they are better SC2 players over the life of the game so far than him. MC and Nestea would be the only other ones who had such sustained dominance and Nestea is basically gone and MC is simply a good Protoss now who can turn it on at times. Your posts and reasoning are quite laughable too. How can you be the most winning(Then AND now) player ever by a long shot and not the best? Get over yourself. I call him overrated not because of his performances, but because of the amount of emotional worship he receives, despite people being unable to point out any distinct strengths besides pure mindgames. The wrist problems I hear a lot of talk about, but MVP keeps playing and winning high-APM games, so until he starts conceding matches or seeming untrained, it looks like he really has no big problems (TLO had to stop playing completely) If you want to use wins only as argument for success, then how about this? http://sc2earnings.com/?year=2012 (Stephano #1, MVP #6). Anyway this is getting emotional and fanboyish again so I'm just going to peace out. Perhaps you don't understand the game enough to trully appreciate MVP's skill. He works the same like Flash did in BW, there's nothing particulary strong about them, they're just good at everything. In one of the interviews MVP said that he thinks there's plenty of people who are better then him, better micro, better macro. It's just that he wins, they don't. Yes, it's more fun to watch some wacky stuff, insane feats of micro and so on. Watch Happy or MKP do their splits all day and be impressed, but when it comes to winning it's MVP you want.
As I had originally replied to this MVP hater, all his post screams is "I'm salty and have poor arguments to justify my saltiness". Props to you both for constructively tearing his post apart, I am a little too busy at work for lengthy posts atm 
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On October 11 2012 05:50 onPHYRE wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2012 05:08 rysecake wrote:On October 11 2012 04:56 sharkie wrote:On October 11 2012 04:39 redviper wrote:On October 11 2012 03:19 partysnatcher wrote:On October 11 2012 03:05 Ysellian wrote:On October 11 2012 02:36 partysnatcher wrote:
I state my impressions about MVP feeling overrated, and tons of fanboys bring in their emotion-based arguments on why MVP is so amasazing. Ah, the irony!
So here are my personal reasons why I, personally (ie, just me - you don't have to agree), consider him overrated:
1. There are known players with far better single skills than MVP (decision making, micro, macro, multifronting), and thus I personally find him boring and unspectacular in comparison to guys like MMA, Taeja, Stephano, Hero, MKP, Rain, MC etc. I have a personal preference towards players with a focused skillset, so I personally like these kinds of players better.
2. Most of his wins came in a period where the game, the metagame and the map-pool was imbalanced in favor of the race he played, 40-50% of the players in Code S were Terrans, and most of his games were GOMTvTs.
And, most importantly:
3. He is, as we see in this thread, worshipped as the best player in SC2 history. I consider him the most-winning. Not the best. I personally would prefer a scenario where MVP loses in the final, because I think he has enough money and wins, more than I think he deserves, as an entertainer and a player.
The end. What makes Rain and Stephano more enjoyable than MVP? Honest question, because I feel these two players in particular have plenty of similarities in their play style. A defensive macro orientated strategy focusing more on out thinking their opponents than out microing / out multitasking their opponents. (with even the occasional cheese thrown into the mix) My favorite part of Rain's play is his approach to engagements, the way he chooses his concaves and sets up his damage (storms or colossus). I enjoy the way he has reinvented P by using Zealots as his opportunity unit and by reducing the sentry count. Other than that, I agree that his skillset overlaps with MVP ("bulletproof" builds, great decision making etc). As for Stephano, he is a macro and build beast, and there's a reason why Jaedong himself expressed enthusiasm for his style. I'm not a huge fan of watching Stephanos games, but I like that he exists because he has perfected a niche. My favorite part of Rain's play is how he lost to mvp this morning. My favorite part of Stephano's play is how he isn't even in the GSL. My favorite part of Jaedong's play is that he dropped to Code B after getting a free seed. My favorite part of mvp's play is that he is the only bonjwa today. Only he isn't? lol I didnt know Nada, oov and savior died. saviors soul died. if that counts lol God, makes me sad every time I am reminded of the whole situation. Raw talent wise, I don't know if we will ever see anyone like savior.. I don't know how much people follow football, but it really reminds me of Maurice Clarett at Ohio State 10 years ago. Broke records as a freshman, super talented, then made some terrible decisions and we never got to see his full potential. Still no idea why or how savior could do this stuff, he was making a lot of money, and he was on top...
He was in the twilight of his career when the scandal occurred.
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On October 11 2012 05:50 onPHYRE wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2012 05:08 rysecake wrote:On October 11 2012 04:56 sharkie wrote:On October 11 2012 04:39 redviper wrote:On October 11 2012 03:19 partysnatcher wrote:On October 11 2012 03:05 Ysellian wrote:On October 11 2012 02:36 partysnatcher wrote:
I state my impressions about MVP feeling overrated, and tons of fanboys bring in their emotion-based arguments on why MVP is so amasazing. Ah, the irony!
So here are my personal reasons why I, personally (ie, just me - you don't have to agree), consider him overrated:
1. There are known players with far better single skills than MVP (decision making, micro, macro, multifronting), and thus I personally find him boring and unspectacular in comparison to guys like MMA, Taeja, Stephano, Hero, MKP, Rain, MC etc. I have a personal preference towards players with a focused skillset, so I personally like these kinds of players better.
2. Most of his wins came in a period where the game, the metagame and the map-pool was imbalanced in favor of the race he played, 40-50% of the players in Code S were Terrans, and most of his games were GOMTvTs.
And, most importantly:
3. He is, as we see in this thread, worshipped as the best player in SC2 history. I consider him the most-winning. Not the best. I personally would prefer a scenario where MVP loses in the final, because I think he has enough money and wins, more than I think he deserves, as an entertainer and a player.
The end. What makes Rain and Stephano more enjoyable than MVP? Honest question, because I feel these two players in particular have plenty of similarities in their play style. A defensive macro orientated strategy focusing more on out thinking their opponents than out microing / out multitasking their opponents. (with even the occasional cheese thrown into the mix) My favorite part of Rain's play is his approach to engagements, the way he chooses his concaves and sets up his damage (storms or colossus). I enjoy the way he has reinvented P by using Zealots as his opportunity unit and by reducing the sentry count. Other than that, I agree that his skillset overlaps with MVP ("bulletproof" builds, great decision making etc). As for Stephano, he is a macro and build beast, and there's a reason why Jaedong himself expressed enthusiasm for his style. I'm not a huge fan of watching Stephanos games, but I like that he exists because he has perfected a niche. My favorite part of Rain's play is how he lost to mvp this morning. My favorite part of Stephano's play is how he isn't even in the GSL. My favorite part of Jaedong's play is that he dropped to Code B after getting a free seed. My favorite part of mvp's play is that he is the only bonjwa today. Only he isn't? lol I didnt know Nada, oov and savior died. saviors soul died. if that counts lol God, makes me sad every time I am reminded of the whole situation. Raw talent wise, I don't know if we will ever see anyone like savior.. I don't know how much people follow football, but it really reminds me of Maurice Clarett at Ohio State 10 years ago. Broke records as a freshman, super talented, then made some terrible decisions and we never got to see his full potential. Still no idea why or how savior could do this stuff, he was making a lot of money, and he was on top...
He couldn't find passion or meaning in the game anymore
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MVP is exciting to me as a player because he is the most complete, most perfect player we've ever seen take up the game. I really can't see how people can watch his games and not feel inspired by him. Every series he plays he brings the brightest ideas to his play. Two months ago Artosis said on the GSL that at the height of patchzergs, when Terran's were struggling most, every Code S terran and below was taking time out of their schedule to watch his game because he IS the innovator.
MVP is the ONLY player to have consistently performed since the release of SC2. He is the greatest player of all time and he is my idol.
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It's so sad that being in 6 GSL finals overshadows all of Mvp's achievements outside the GSL, where he also has the most premier tournament wins of any player. " Only good in the GSL! " yeah, not really. Waxangel didn't even predict him to make it out of the open bracket at IEM and yet he wins the whole tournament, Mvp had like a 10 minute break between the semis and finals, still crushes Nerchio. He is not all about preparation, he also has the raw skill.
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Rain had to play OSL and GSL back to back
Rain played less SC2 than MVP
Rain had less time to prepare to due point 1
Still went to ace match
Lets not get ahead of ourselves with the B word for MVP you crazy nerds.
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YESSSS
I am sooooo happy. I can't believe how good Life played. He is a fucking monster and its about time Rain got owned, well down Mvp! jiweojdpehebceb GSL finals going to be fucking incredible!!!
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On October 11 2012 06:35 TAMinator wrote:
Rain had to play OSL and GSL back to back
Rain played less SC2 than MVP
Rain had less time to prepare to due point 1
Still went to ace match
Lets not get ahead of ourselves with the B word for MVP you crazy nerds.
Also, MVP had a chance to see 7 of rains PvT's a day prior to their game with 3 of those games of last showing how to beat Rain.
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