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[Code S] Semi-Finals 2012 GSL Season 4

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Standard LR rules apply: No balance whining, no KeSPA vs. GomTV inciting, no excessive derailing ESPECIALLY when games are on. This is not a thread for you to argue with other people.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-10 12:18:09
October 08 2012 02:14 GMT
#1
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[image loading] [image loading] By.Rain vs. [image loading] [image loading] Mvp

Whirlwind | Abyssal City | Entombed Valley | Antiga Shipyard | Cloud Kingdom

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[image loading] [image loading] TaeJa vs. [image loading] [image loading] Life

Abyssal City | Whirlwind | Entombed Valley | Cloud Kingdom | Daybreak



Wednesday, Oct 10 9:10am GMT (GMT+00:00)

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[image loading] By.Rain <Whirlwind> [image loading] Mvp

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[image loading] By.Rain <Abyssal City> [image loading] Mvp

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[image loading] By.Rain <Entombed Valley> [image loading] Mvp

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[image loading] By.Rain <Antiga Shipyard> [image loading] Mvp

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[image loading] By.Rain <Cloud Kingdom> [image loading] Mvp


+ Show Spoiler [TaeJa vs. Life] +
+ Show Spoiler [Game 1] +
[image loading] TaeJa <Abyssal City> [image loading] Life

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[image loading] TaeJa <Whirlwind> [image loading] Life

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[image loading] TaeJa <Entombed Valley> [image loading] Life

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Life won 3-0

+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
Life won 3-0




+ Show Spoiler [Overall Results] +

By.Rain vs. Mvp
[image loading] By.Rain <Whirlwind> [image loading] Mvp
[image loading] By.Rain <Abyssal City> [image loading] Mvp
[image loading] By.Rain <Entombed Valley> [image loading] Mvp
[image loading] By.Rain <Antiga Shipyard> [image loading] Mvp
[image loading] By.Rain <Cloud Kingdom> [image loading] Mvp

[image loading] Mvp wins 3-2!



TaeJa vs. Life
[image loading] TaeJa <Abyssal City> [image loading] Life
[image loading] TaeJa <Whirlwind> [image loading] Life
[image loading] TaeJa <Entombed Valley> [image loading] Life
[image loading] TaeJa <Cloud Kingdom> [image loading] Life
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By.Rain vs. Mvp Game 1
By.Rain vs. Mvp Game 2
By.Rain vs. Mvp Game 3
By.Rain vs. Mvp Game 4
By.Rain vs. Mvp Game 5



TaeJa vs. Life Game 1
TaeJa vs. Life Game 2
TaeJa vs. Life Game 3
TaeJa vs. Life Game 4
TaeJa vs. Life Game 5




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Poll: Recommend By.Rain vs. Mvp Game 1?

Yes (43)
 
54%

No (26)
 
33%

If you have time (11)
 
14%

80 total votes

Your vote: Recommend By.Rain vs. Mvp Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


Poll: Recommend By.Rain vs. Mvp Game 2?

Yes (91)
 
72%

No (19)
 
15%

If you have time (16)
 
13%

126 total votes

Your vote: Recommend By.Rain vs. Mvp Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


Poll: Recommend By.Rain vs. Mvp Game 3?

Yes (70)
 
60%

No (35)
 
30%

If you have time (12)
 
10%

117 total votes

Your vote: Recommend By.Rain vs. Mvp Game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


Poll: Recommend By.Rain vs. Mvp Game 4?

Yes (128)
 
93%

No (7)
 
5%

If you have time (3)
 
2%

138 total votes

Your vote: Recommend By.Rain vs. Mvp Game 4?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


Poll: Recommend By.Rain vs. Mvp Game 5?

Yes (110)
 
80%

No (24)
 
17%

If you have time (4)
 
3%

138 total votes

Your vote: Recommend By.Rain vs. Mvp Game 5?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time



+ Show Spoiler [TaeJa vs. Life] +
Poll: Recommend TaeJa vs. Life Game 1?

Yes (67)
 
88%

No (8)
 
11%

If you have time (1)
 
1%

76 total votes

Your vote: Recommend TaeJa vs. Life Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


Poll: Recommend TaeJa vs. Life Game 2?

Yes (96)
 
93%

No (6)
 
6%

If you have time (1)
 
1%

103 total votes

Your vote: Recommend TaeJa vs. Life Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


Poll: Recommend TaeJa vs. Life Game 3?

Yes (55)
 
87%

No (8)
 
13%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

63 total votes

Your vote: Recommend TaeJa vs. Life Game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


Poll: Recommend TaeJa vs. Life Game 4?

Yes (21)
 
68%

No (7)
 
23%

If you have time (3)
 
10%

31 total votes

Your vote: Recommend TaeJa vs. Life Game 4?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


Poll: Recommend TaeJa vs. Life Game 5?

Yes (17)
 
49%

No (13)
 
37%

If you have time (5)
 
14%

35 total votes

Your vote: Recommend TaeJa vs. Life Game 5?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time



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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-09 04:52:56
October 08 2012 02:14 GMT
#2
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Poll: Head

Mvp (368)
 
51%

By.Rain (352)
 
49%

720 total votes

Your vote: Head

(Vote): By.Rain
(Vote): Mvp


Poll: Heart?

Mvp (419)
 
65%

By.Rain (222)
 
35%

641 total votes

Your vote: Heart?

(Vote): By.Rain
(Vote): Mvp



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Poll: Head

TaeJa (433)
 
73%

Life (162)
 
27%

595 total votes

Your vote: Head

(Vote): TaeJa
(Vote): Life


Poll: Heart?

TaeJa (365)
 
64%

Life (204)
 
36%

569 total votes

Your vote: Heart?

(Vote): TaeJa
(Vote): Life



Poll: Most epic finals?

TaeJa vs. By.Rain (228)
 
45%

Mvp vs. TaeJa (155)
 
30%

Life vs. Mvp (72)
 
14%

By.Rain vs. Life (54)
 
11%

509 total votes

Your vote: Most epic finals?

(Vote): TaeJa vs. By.Rain
(Vote): Life vs. Mvp
(Vote): By.Rain vs. Life
(Vote): Mvp vs. TaeJa

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Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-08 02:19:21
October 08 2012 02:14 GMT
#3
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(with thanks to DarkLordOlli!)


Rain vs. MVP

Dear God. How can I best express the epicness that this match is surely to be? Much ado has been made over GSL Finals less worthy than this semi finals match. Let's start with the single most staggering fact about these two players. Neither player has almost ever performed "badly". They have this really sick ability to always have a stellar performance even at their worst - when injury (Mvp) or inexperience (Rain) might hinder them. Continue reading this litany to Rain & Mvp, fully knowing that these guys are two natural born winners, highly honed weapons, and successful trained killers.

"GSL's most wanted: goes by the moniker of "Mvp". Do not try to parley with this merciless killer, unless John the translator can mediate and translate for you." Mvp - WANTED

How can we forget what Mvp has done to our lone Ro8 foreign ranger Naniwa? Full of hope we were, arrayed around the giant television at TaKe's house. Socke, HasuObs, ReaL, Phoenix, Monchi, Dennis and me were watching the GSL Ro8 with hope and trepidation. Naniwa was on a roll, but Mvp made him look silly. Before I played SC2 competitively, I'd watch GSL and be full of criticism at the player's mistakes, like Naniwa's micro during the bunker rushes. When I first played against GSL-worthy players, I suddenly realized it's very different from the luxury of my computer seat, watching a full-vision stream or facing one of these ruffians on the street (or, in the game). Mvp's preparation and ruthless approach even gave him a victory over his favorite "free-win-ticket" PartinG, back then without a doubt a PvT specialist. In the meantime, there is this little voice in the opponent's head that says, "You're losing to a guy with wrist injuries, wtf!". Step one to playing against Mvp would be to have 0 care or sympathy. Though deserving of sympathy outside of the game, Mvp has shown that it does not matter or that he does not let it get to him. That's the hallmark of tenacity and iron will power.

What can we expect from Mvp in this match?

Who can really predict what Mvp will do against Rain? All right, we can narrow it down. I doubt we'll see a full fledged Factory style. Everything else is open. We may even see late-game Battlecruisers if the situation merits it. Rain doesn't attack a lot in PvT, rather preferring to strangle out his opponent and force a favorable engagement on his own terms. Mvp, being the smart player he is, must definitely recognize this and slip some tricks up his sleeve. I wouldn't be surprised to see at least one game going late with Nuclear Missles or Battlecruisers, another with a 2-base viking/scv attack and the remainder of the games being greedy macro being disguised as all-in strategies. Throwing up a bunker in Protoss' territory, then turning tail and going for 3 Orbitals. I almost have to assume that Mvp will do at least 1 one-base allin, such as marine/SCV pull. It is unlikely that Rain has faced this very much yet in his short SC2 career, and there are a lot of specifics to dealing with that.

"Have you seen this killer? Call KeSPA IMMEDIATELY. Do not engage or approach. Suspect is armed and highly dangerous, and has sick map awareness." Rain - WANTED

"Rain" can be recognized by his excellent ability to switch up strategies in Best-of-3+series, executes his build orders with a precision and - despite his short tenure in SC2 - is already revolutionizing every PvX match-up. It's not big things, right? He's not going to go Carriers rush or figure out a new way to cannon Terrans or such. He has unbelievably solid, stable builds with a great map awareness and reaction time, and gets to this later stage of the game where he is so dangerous, patient and calculative. His ingenious openers allow him to get to that point.

If I'm quite honest, I don't quite know how he does it. He's been improving every time we've seen him play, and his mentality seems powerful. He already has such impeccable attention to detail, and I know the reader is probably wearying of my sycophantic writing, but it has to be said! I don't think there's a Protoss in the world who has shown this level of play yet, and not a Protoss in the world doesn't look at SKT1Rain and says: that guy is freaking good.

What can we expect from Rain in this match?

It's going to be hard to guess. He has done openers ranging from DT's, Colossi and Charge/HT in this match-up, and the potential list of new builds he might use is vast. Rain doesn't seem to throw in a hardcore cheese every now and then - you could say that it would be rare or unlikely to see Rain put all his eggs into one basket. He uses openers that could sometimes lead to a cheese but he only uses them to inflict damage. Expect Rain to pick his fights with the utmost care. I've attempted to copy Rain's builds and transitions, with some success, but the way that man engages his opponent and how he picks his fights is hard to copy, for this you can only rely on your own well trained instincts. Rain played from slightly behind or ahead against Liquid`HerO in the Ro8 and always squeezed out a very convincing win. I doubt we'll see Nexus first or Proxy gates from Rain. Another thing that really weighs heavily here is his upcoming study of IMmvp. There can be no doubt that Rain will base his play on the upcoming maps using a mindmap of Mvp's mind, based off the last few months' worth of games that Mvp has played. There are plenty of replays and VOD's to find, and they will tell Rain this: You don't know what you can expect from Mvp with a certainty. The guy can go triple Orbital, 2 rax scv allin and everything in between. Therefore I expect Rain to come up with some solid builds that contain a sting. In order to keep control of the Best of 5, Rain will need to apply pressure on Mvp like we are normally only used to seeing in PvZ. He can't just sit back and let Mvp's little plans envelop him. For this reason I am completely stoked to see this match and I couldn't have wished for a better semi-finals than Rain vs Mvp.

Prediction:

I think Rain will win both GSL and OSL, therefore I see him winning against Mvp. Having said that, Mvp could be his toughest hurdle yet, despite his self-professed and understandable weakness in the PvZ match-up (he might face ST`Life in the finals). I thought Rain would beat HerO 3-1, and he did 3-0. I didn't think Rain would beat TaeJa, and he beat him 2-0. My gut says Rain 3-1 Mvp, so he'll probably win 3-0. I don't know how, I can't support it with arguments or logic, but there you have it.

Rain 3-0 MVP



TaeJa vs. Life

TaeJa and Life are both young and cheeky players, who haven't learned enough yet to be scared of things. This is working out well for them, because presently they are both on a meteoric rise in the scene. TaeJa is the name we've been hearing so solidly the last few months, and his story is just beautiful. Joining a foreign team but not getting cursed? That's news worthy. The "friend's team" of the foreign scene, Liquid, must be proud both to see TaeJa's stellar progress as well as having had the prescience of TaeJa going super saiyan. Winning 3 tournaments in the last 3 months, it doesn't look like TaeJa's reign will end here. TaeJa's greatest skill is making insignificant armies significant and coming out on top of impossible fights (Antiga Shipyard vs IMFirst at MLG?). That was yesterday, and I think tomorrow he'll be beating Colossi with Reapers. He's solid, methodical, usually patient and really just gets the game.

Life feels a lot like a Zerg incarnation of 'MKP of a few months back' to me. The enjoyment of the game is dripping off him and crazy and zany strategies are part and parcel of his play. This is both a strength and a weakness, for a crazy player will never get the kind of stability that a player like TaeJa pursues. Hold the strategy, and Life is not going to look as impressive - may even look silly. The greatest thing Life has going for him is that he probably does not worry about that consequence, that outcome. If momentum is on Life's side, surprisingly nothing may stop him.

Both Life and TaeJa will be taking a very keen eye to their adversary's Ro8 games - but both will also realize that their counterpart is doing the same thing. Since Life probably has a 100 allins & strategies, it shouldn't be hard for him to change many of the parts of his play. TaeJa will not have that luxury, partly because of how his race works and partly because TaeJa thrives on stability. Normally, presently, I'd vote on TaeJa winning against almost anyone in the world except maybe SKT1Rain. However, I believe the study material of the Ro8 will work in the young Zerg's favor. Therefore I predict a heartbreaking defeat for TaeJa and a tantalizing victory for Life who will win with a 3:2 score. Mule dropping & Zergling dances guaranteed to be included.
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catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
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October 08 2012 02:17 GMT
#4
LIFE LET'S DO THIS THING
I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
October 08 2012 02:19 GMT
#5
Rain for first dual league wins since Flash.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 08 2012 02:28 GMT
#6
Rain 3-2 Mvp
Taeja 3-1 Life
Rain 4-1 Taeja in finals.
Yoshi Kirishima
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United States10366 Posts
October 08 2012 02:29 GMT
#7
o man shit's gonna get real
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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-08 02:37:55
October 08 2012 02:31 GMT
#8
oh my god i am SO excited.
Holy shit Rain vs MVP could be the match I've been hyped for the most.

Sick hype entries btw, Opertown, really well done.

By the way, mind sharing your top 10 SC2 players?


No nevermind, what the fadoodle Rain over MVP? You put Rain going 3-0 over MVP?

Do you know who the last person to doubt MVP was? It won't be you.

If you don't believe in MVP, then you don't believe in destiny or the spark of greatness that MVP uses to achieve 4 GSL championships. [/s]

!!!
GRUBBY!!!!
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
October 08 2012 02:32 GMT
#9
Little note to fix: the semifinals were rescheduled and will happen a day later, on October 11th
http://www.gomtv.net/forum/view.gom?topicid=226039&cid=0&kind=8
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-08 02:35:35
October 08 2012 02:34 GMT
#10
Ooooooohhh, can't wait for wednesday uhh thursday, I guess (?) morning!

MVP vs Life would be my dream finals, but everything else would be great, too.

Thanks for the previews, Grubby/DarkLordOlli/opterown!
ratzlp0li
Profile Joined October 2012
United States5 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-08 02:53:26
October 08 2012 02:35 GMT
#11
Rain 3-1 Mvp
Life 3-2 Taeja

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Life accidently a Taeja

fighting GoGo!!
SidianTheBard
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2474 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-08 02:40:21
October 08 2012 02:40 GMT
#12
MVP going to crush Rain. Everybody always underestimates him but he keeps on winning.

Mvp 3-1

Taeja also going to beat life, Taeja can adapt very well and plays a very solid early/mid/late game compared to Life.

Taeja 3-1
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-08 02:50:03
October 08 2012 02:40 GMT
#13
On October 08 2012 11:32 Serinox wrote:
Little note to fix: the semifinals were rescheduled and will happen a day later, on October 11th
http://www.gomtv.net/forum/view.gom?topicid=226039&cid=0&kind=8

oh really? ick i've heard so much stuff about this, lol
originally 11th, then 10th, now 11th again!? zzz

actually, announcement makes no sense, lol. the only player in those days in WCS asia is by.rain, and it would be better for him to play on the 10th, not 11th?
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 08 2012 02:41 GMT
#14
also, by the way, if anyone can man the LR thread for code A tomorrow i'd much appreciate it! i don't have premium lol
premade here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=16488449
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Atrbyg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States513 Posts
October 08 2012 02:42 GMT
#15
Oh man. This is going to be so good.

Rain 2-3 MVP
Life 1-3 TaeJa

Wrathsc2
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2025 Posts
October 08 2012 02:46 GMT
#16
MVP MVP MVP MVP MVP...never doubt the king
A marine walks into a bar and asks, "Wheres the counter?"
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 08 2012 02:46 GMT
#17
On October 08 2012 11:41 opterown wrote:
also, by the way, if anyone can man the LR thread for code A tomorrow i'd much appreciate it! i don't have premium lol
premade here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=16488449

You could have just asked me. Am I not good enough for you anymore!? :/
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-08 02:48:53
October 08 2012 02:48 GMT
#18
On October 08 2012 11:46 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2012 11:41 opterown wrote:
also, by the way, if anyone can man the LR thread for code A tomorrow i'd much appreciate it! i don't have premium lol
premade here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=16488449

You could have just asked me. Am I not good enough for you anymore!? :/

my skype died sorry T_T thanks man you're epic! :D
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X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
October 08 2012 03:06 GMT
#19
On October 08 2012 11:40 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2012 11:32 Serinox wrote:
Little note to fix: the semifinals were rescheduled and will happen a day later, on October 11th
http://www.gomtv.net/forum/view.gom?topicid=226039&cid=0&kind=8

oh really? ick i've heard so much stuff about this, lol
originally 11th, then 10th, now 11th again!? zzz

actually, announcement makes no sense, lol. the only player in those days in WCS asia is by.rain, and it would be better for him to play on the 10th, not 11th?


ORIGINALLY it was 11th, then tastosis said it was on 10th,then that announcement popped up and said it was 11th, then wolfdor comfirmed it was on the 10th again, not 11th. so i take it that it will be on 10th, not 11th
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
Depetrify
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
978 Posts
October 08 2012 03:09 GMT
#20
I could see MVP winning if he cheesed his way through - doubt he can beat that HT style BroodWar APM with his injury.

Taeja should be able to win pretty easily if he researches Life well, I don't think hes the most solid player. He just plays weird.

Rain vs Taeja would be like one of the highest level TvP games ever.
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