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Standard LR rules apply: No balance whining, no KeSPA vs. GomTV inciting, no excessive derailing ESPECIALLY when games are on. This is not a thread for you to argue with other people.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33606 Posts
October 08 2012 09:00 GMT
#81
eh, I like Life a lot this tournament, tho I'm forbidden from actually picking Mvp to lose
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-08 09:03:28
October 08 2012 09:01 GMT
#82
On October 08 2012 16:51 HaXXspetten wrote:
Wait is this on wednesday or thursday?
OP and TL calender says the former, liquipedia the latter.

I reeeeaaally hope it's on thursday or I'll litterally miss all of it...

that's because OP and TL calendar is actually all done by me, lol. hopefully i'm right! ;p

also thinking/working on finals hype, lemme know if any of you guys have any epic ideas for and/or if you want to help out ;p
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Sambobly
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia241 Posts
October 08 2012 09:05 GMT
#83
These semi-finals = best birthday present I could've hoped for!
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 08 2012 09:06 GMT
#84
On October 08 2012 18:00 Waxangel wrote:
eh, I like Life a lot this tournament, tho I'm forbidden from actually picking Mvp to lose


I don't think Life can beat Taeja, not after seeing him vs keen in GSTL.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
October 08 2012 09:19 GMT
#85
On October 08 2012 18:01 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2012 16:51 HaXXspetten wrote:
Wait is this on wednesday or thursday?
OP and TL calender says the former, liquipedia the latter.

I reeeeaaally hope it's on thursday or I'll litterally miss all of it...

that's because OP and TL calendar is actually all done by me, lol. hopefully i'm right! ;p

also thinking/working on finals hype, lemme know if any of you guys have any epic ideas for and/or if you want to help out ;p


Will let you know if I come up with something!
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-08 09:25:50
October 08 2012 09:20 GMT
#86
On October 08 2012 17:59 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Remember when people claimed PartinG was going to smash Mvp? PartinG had done much the same as Rain this season, crushing everyone in his path. Mvp is just a washed up shadow of his former self, with a wrist injury to boot, right?

Wrong. Even if Rain had crushed Mvp 20-0 in other tournaments, that doesn't mean a DAMN THING to Mvp right now. The GSL is Mvp's playground. Rain is trying to get a legitimate claim to best in the world, but he can't do that unless he beats Mvp on his home turf. You can talk about Rain's amazing run all you want, but the truth is EVERY SINGLE TIME people count Mvp out, he wins. GSL is Mvp's home turf, where he thrives in this EXACT kind of environment. Throw out your statistics all you want, but they don't mean a damn thing to Mvp.

If Mvp wins, Rain is another derailed hype train, just like so many before him. But if Rain wins, he will win this season of GSL and be on the road to immortality.


No.

What separates Sun and Parting is attitude and skill level.

Season 1: Winning so many of his PvTs and deemed a PvT specialist before he played his first official PvZ Code S match against DRG and got smashed 0-3.

Season 2: Parting literally show only PvT( he won 2 PvP against Oz who then claimed vP is all about skills lol) until he got beaten by MVP .Parting thought MVP is free ticket to the finals.Read up his interview. Got cocky and lose. Got tilted after being 1/1/1 by MVP.

Unlike Sun who is a total beast in all of the match-up(PvP,PvZ,PvT), Parting was only a PvT specialist and a good PvPer.
Sun is humble and doesn't show much in interview but in his games.

Sun is gonna beat MVP 3-1 or 3-0.

But I never count MVP out since he is a 4X GSL champion and has the uncanny ability to fucking win games with his injuries.

Play your best
Kontys
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland659 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-08 09:28:04
October 08 2012 09:24 GMT
#87
I am going to agree to 3-0 for Rain over MVP. The production team running behind Rain will come up with as many match-up revolutionising strategies as is required to win every set in any single elimination round. Those people, whoever they are, put the S in RTS.

To Rain's other credit is that he is the cleanest player in the business. There are no unforced errors in his gameplay, and I guess I can attribute this straight away to the rigorous training regimens of the KESPA teams... and we thought we knew what korean training meant.

The big hurdle with the coming of KESPA to SC2 has been the (somewhat expected) revelation, that noone in the ESF establishment has a brain. MVP is actually the only plausible exception to that, but he isn't a convincing exception by comparison, nowhere near ingenious enough.

In closing, I conclude that the entire non-kespa starcraft establishment are slackers, no-brainers and inexperienced in their approach to RTS gaming. Rain 3-0. He is coming in with training and preparation on a whole another level than what the established SC2 scene is yet even able to comprehend.

Please refrain from arguing with me until the results are in.

User was temp banned for this post.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 08 2012 09:27 GMT
#88
On October 08 2012 18:24 Kontys wrote:
I am going to agree to 3-0 for Rain over MVP. The production team running behind Rain will come up with as many match-up revolutionising strategies as is required to win every set in any single elimination round. Those people, whoever they are, put the S in RTS.

To Rain's other credit is that he is the cleanest player in the business. There are no unforced errors in his gameplay, and I guess I can attribute this straight away to the rigorous training regimens of the KESPA teams... and we thought we knew what korean training meant.

The big hurdle with the coming of KESPA to SC2 has been the (somewhat expected) revelation, that noone in the ESF establishment has a brain. MVP is actually the only plausible exception to that, but he isn't a convincing exception by comparison, nowhere near ingenious enough.

In closing, I conclude that the entire non-kespa starcraft establishment are slackers, no-brainers and inexperienced in their approach to RTS gaming. Rain 3-0.

Please refrain from arguing with me until the results are in.

way to shit on everything ESF has done.
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
October 08 2012 09:28 GMT
#89
On October 08 2012 18:24 Kontys wrote:
I am going to agree to 3-0 for Rain over MVP. The production team running behind Rain will come up with as many match-up revolutionising strategies as is required to win every set in any single elimination round. Those people, whoever they are, put the S in RTS.

To Rain's other credit is that he is the cleanest player in the business. There are no unforced errors in his gameplay, and I guess I can attribute this straight away to the rigorous training regimens of the KESPA teams... and we thought we knew what korean training meant.

The big hurdle with the coming of KESPA to SC2 has been the (somewhat expected) revelation, that noone in the ESF establishment has a brain. MVP is actually the only plausible exception to that, but he isn't a convincing exception by comparison, nowhere near ingenious enough.

In closing, I conclude that the entire non-kespa starcraft establishment are slackers, no-brainers and inexperienced in their approach to RTS gaming. Rain 3-0.

Please refrain from arguing with me until the results are in.


Interesting opinion. Not a sign of proof anywhere though so that's all it's gonna remain.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Kontys
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland659 Posts
October 08 2012 09:31 GMT
#90
On October 08 2012 18:27 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2012 18:24 Kontys wrote:
I am going to agree to 3-0 for Rain over MVP. The production team running behind Rain will come up with as many match-up revolutionising strategies as is required to win every set in any single elimination round. Those people, whoever they are, put the S in RTS.

To Rain's other credit is that he is the cleanest player in the business. There are no unforced errors in his gameplay, and I guess I can attribute this straight away to the rigorous training regimens of the KESPA teams... and we thought we knew what korean training meant.

The big hurdle with the coming of KESPA to SC2 has been the (somewhat expected) revelation, that noone in the ESF establishment has a brain. MVP is actually the only plausible exception to that, but he isn't a convincing exception by comparison, nowhere near ingenious enough.

In closing, I conclude that the entire non-kespa starcraft establishment are slackers, no-brainers and inexperienced in their approach to RTS gaming. Rain 3-0.

Please refrain from arguing with me until the results are in.

way to shit on everything ESF has done.


Note that I am arguing for why Rain is invincible, not for why ESF is shit. I respect what the ESF have been able to bring about, but it all ends right here.
Kontys
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland659 Posts
October 08 2012 09:32 GMT
#91
On October 08 2012 18:28 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2012 18:24 Kontys wrote:
I am going to agree to 3-0 for Rain over MVP. The production team running behind Rain will come up with as many match-up revolutionising strategies as is required to win every set in any single elimination round. Those people, whoever they are, put the S in RTS.

To Rain's other credit is that he is the cleanest player in the business. There are no unforced errors in his gameplay, and I guess I can attribute this straight away to the rigorous training regimens of the KESPA teams... and we thought we knew what korean training meant.

The big hurdle with the coming of KESPA to SC2 has been the (somewhat expected) revelation, that noone in the ESF establishment has a brain. MVP is actually the only plausible exception to that, but he isn't a convincing exception by comparison, nowhere near ingenious enough.

In closing, I conclude that the entire non-kespa starcraft establishment are slackers, no-brainers and inexperienced in their approach to RTS gaming. Rain 3-0.

Please refrain from arguing with me until the results are in.


Interesting opinion. Not a sign of proof anywhere though so that's all it's gonna remain.


Yes, well, there is a way I might be proven wrong. Little do I doubt my own correctness of course.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 08 2012 09:34 GMT
#92
On October 08 2012 18:24 Kontys wrote:
I am going to agree to 3-0 for Rain over MVP. The production team running behind Rain will come up with as many match-up revolutionising strategies as is required to win every set in any single elimination round. Those people, whoever they are, put the S in RTS.

To Rain's other credit is that he is the cleanest player in the business. There are no unforced errors in his gameplay, and I guess I can attribute this straight away to the rigorous training regimens of the KESPA teams... and we thought we knew what korean training meant.

The big hurdle with the coming of KESPA to SC2 has been the (somewhat expected) revelation, that noone in the ESF establishment has a brain. MVP is actually the only plausible exception to that, but he isn't a convincing exception by comparison, nowhere near ingenious enough.

In closing, I conclude that the entire non-kespa starcraft establishment are slackers, no-brainers and inexperienced in their approach to RTS gaming. Rain 3-0. He is coming in with training and preparation on a whole another level than what the established SC2 scene is yet even able to comprehend.

Please refrain from arguing with me until the results are in.


this is almost as good as waxangel's post about stephano and the GSL in the grudgematch thread
InoyouS2
Profile Joined December 2011
1005 Posts
October 08 2012 09:38 GMT
#93
Not sure why people think Rain vs TaeJa finals would be any better than their Ro16 matches, Rain crushed TaeJa handily.

IMMvp|fOrGG|IMNesTea|oGsMC|Liquid`Hero|DongRaeGu|Slayers_MMA|Liquid`TLO|MarineKingPrime|IMSeed
rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-08 09:40:07
October 08 2012 09:39 GMT
#94
On October 08 2012 18:24 Kontys wrote:
I am going to agree to 3-0 for Rain over MVP. The production team running behind Rain will come up with as many match-up revolutionising strategies as is required to win every set in any single elimination round. Those people, whoever they are, put the S in RTS.

To Rain's other credit is that he is the cleanest player in the business. There are no unforced errors in his gameplay, and I guess I can attribute this straight away to the rigorous training regimens of the KESPA teams... and we thought we knew what korean training meant.

The big hurdle with the coming of KESPA to SC2 has been the (somewhat expected) revelation, that noone in the ESF establishment has a brain. MVP is actually the only plausible exception to that, but he isn't a convincing exception by comparison, nowhere near ingenious enough.

In closing, I conclude that the entire non-kespa starcraft establishment are slackers, no-brainers and inexperienced in their approach to RTS gaming. Rain 3-0. He is coming in with training and preparation on a whole another level than what the established SC2 scene is yet even able to comprehend.

Please refrain from arguing with me until the results are in.

mvp was an A-class kespa progamer before he switched, he definitely knows what a rigorous training regimen is.
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InoyouS2
Profile Joined December 2011
1005 Posts
October 08 2012 09:42 GMT
#95
On October 08 2012 18:24 Kontys wrote:
I am going to agree to 3-0 for Rain over MVP. The production team running behind Rain will come up with as many match-up revolutionising strategies as is required to win every set in any single elimination round. Those people, whoever they are, put the S in RTS.

To Rain's other credit is that he is the cleanest player in the business. There are no unforced errors in his gameplay, and I guess I can attribute this straight away to the rigorous training regimens of the KESPA teams... and we thought we knew what korean training meant.

The big hurdle with the coming of KESPA to SC2 has been the (somewhat expected) revelation, that noone in the ESF establishment has a brain. MVP is actually the only plausible exception to that, but he isn't a convincing exception by comparison, nowhere near ingenious enough.

In closing, I conclude that the entire non-kespa starcraft establishment are slackers, no-brainers and inexperienced in their approach to RTS gaming. Rain 3-0. He is coming in with training and preparation on a whole another level than what the established SC2 scene is yet even able to comprehend.

Please refrain from arguing with me until the results are in.


Even Rain has noted that he feels a lot of his wins are due to a stylistic divide rather than a skill gap, once people figure out his style he won't be doing so hot.
IMMvp|fOrGG|IMNesTea|oGsMC|Liquid`Hero|DongRaeGu|Slayers_MMA|Liquid`TLO|MarineKingPrime|IMSeed
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-08 09:43:22
October 08 2012 09:42 GMT
#96
On October 08 2012 18:39 rotinegg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2012 18:24 Kontys wrote:
I am going to agree to 3-0 for Rain over MVP. The production team running behind Rain will come up with as many match-up revolutionising strategies as is required to win every set in any single elimination round. Those people, whoever they are, put the S in RTS.

To Rain's other credit is that he is the cleanest player in the business. There are no unforced errors in his gameplay, and I guess I can attribute this straight away to the rigorous training regimens of the KESPA teams... and we thought we knew what korean training meant.

The big hurdle with the coming of KESPA to SC2 has been the (somewhat expected) revelation, that noone in the ESF establishment has a brain. MVP is actually the only plausible exception to that, but he isn't a convincing exception by comparison, nowhere near ingenious enough.

In closing, I conclude that the entire non-kespa starcraft establishment are slackers, no-brainers and inexperienced in their approach to RTS gaming. Rain 3-0. He is coming in with training and preparation on a whole another level than what the established SC2 scene is yet even able to comprehend.

Please refrain from arguing with me until the results are in.

mvp was an A-class kespa progamer before he switched, he definitely knows what a rigorous training regimen is.


Sadly,MVP can't practice as much as anymore due to wrist and neck injuries.

Sun on the other hand is fine and healthy and can easily do his 12-hour rigorous Kespa training regimen everyday.
Play your best
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-08 09:47:56
October 08 2012 09:47 GMT
#97
It feels like some posters think all Kespa players are going to be like Rain, crush everyone and be top 4 of both leagues at once.

They're not, Kespa players have a great training environment and years of experience but they are not naturally more gifted at RTS, they do well because of their hard work. Rain just happens to be a genius at sc2 and in one of the absolute best practice environments at SKT.

" In closing, I conclude that the entire non-kespa starcraft establishment are slackers, no-brainers and inexperienced in their approach to RTS gaming. " just lol, that's all I can say.
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
October 08 2012 10:02 GMT
#98
Mvp will crush Rain.
Aquila-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
516 Posts
October 08 2012 10:08 GMT
#99
People, when will you finally understand it? Mvp doesn't lose. Ever.

Mvp 3-2 Rain
Taeja 3-1 Life
SxP
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands51 Posts
October 08 2012 10:12 GMT
#100
On October 08 2012 18:01 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2012 16:51 HaXXspetten wrote:
Wait is this on wednesday or thursday?
OP and TL calender says the former, liquipedia the latter.

I reeeeaaally hope it's on thursday or I'll litterally miss all of it...

that's because OP and TL calendar is actually all done by me, lol. hopefully i'm right! ;p


gomtv.net says Wednesday, so liquipedia is wrong.
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