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Standard LR rules apply: No balance whining, no KeSPA vs. GomTV inciting, no excessive derailing ESPECIALLY when games are on. This is not a thread for you to argue with other people.
Ethi
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany275 Posts
October 08 2012 12:15 GMT
#121
Very nice preview, thank you Grubby!
But i have to disagree with you at one point. Never doubt Mvp.
Aquila-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
516 Posts
October 08 2012 12:17 GMT
#122
On October 08 2012 21:09 DeCoder wrote:
Life > Rain > Taeja > MVP


RUN BRO RUUUUUUUUN!!!
CrazyBirdman
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany3509 Posts
October 08 2012 12:19 GMT
#123
On October 08 2012 21:15 Ethi wrote:
Very nice preview, thank you Grubby!
But i have to disagree with you at one point. Never doubt Mvp.

He hasn't made the experiences of TL staff to know that you NEVER doubt Mvp.
ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
October 08 2012 12:21 GMT
#124
On October 08 2012 19:41 sinigang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2012 14:58 GolemMadness wrote:
On October 08 2012 14:13 sinigang wrote:
So maybe now we can finally see how BW skill translates to SC2:

Here were their stats in BW:

MVP:
All: 30-46 (39.47%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): W L L L L W L L W L

By.Sun:
All: 31-31 (50.00%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): W L W L L W W W W W

Game on!!


Meaning what...


Well MVP obviously sucked in BW, and Sun/Rain was pretty good. If Rain wins, then it means MVP's level of play isn't that good after all and may actually be just as bad as he was in BW. Then ESF players have a problem next GSL when KeSPA pros have fully practiced...

Also, MVP vs Flash record in BW was 1-6, so I can't wait to see those two go head to head in SC2.


Man, MVP did not suck in BW, he is pretty good, and up coming terran in BW when he retired.

People need to understand a 40% winrate with decent game numbers in proleague means you are very good.


DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
October 08 2012 12:34 GMT
#125
I want Rain to win.

But I've seen MVP defeat too many "unbeatable" players
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 08 2012 12:43 GMT
#126
Poll: Head

Mvp (368)
 
51%

By.Rain (352)
 
49%

720 total votes

Your vote: Head

(Vote): By.Rain
(Vote): Mvp



this poll started out fairly heavily in rain's favour, but has quickly shifted to become much more even :o
interesting!
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DOUDOU
Profile Joined October 2011
Wales2940 Posts
October 08 2012 12:46 GMT
#127
a preview by grubby!!! oh my oh my!


my heart want taeja mvp and rain to win the GSL

my brain is already full of active chemicals, but if i had to make a statement i'd give the win to life and rain
life has proved numerous times that he knows how to prepare, and that is the most important thing in GSL, sadly, i believe he can take taeja
same applies for rain, he just....knows what to do, i think even mvp can't stop the elephant stomp
Feast | Grubby | Mvp | Polt | Fantasy | Last | MMA | forGG | Leenock | Soberphano | Scarlett cutiepie
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 08 2012 12:48 GMT
#128
if jangbi takes things seriously he's much better than by.sun.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Rammstorm
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1434 Posts
October 08 2012 13:03 GMT
#129
I think Rain will win the series(3-1).
MVP will be forced to do early game(1-2 bases) pushes to beat him.
"MC" -> Master of Ceremonies xD
Inzan1ty
Profile Joined September 2012
1163 Posts
October 08 2012 15:37 GMT
#130
Gosh, this is already tomorrow?

So hyped for Rain vs Mvp, clash of the Protoss and Terran Titans

TaeJa should take out Life, would be a major upset if we see Life in finals imo.
RIP Seung Hyun 'Space' Park † 6/5/2013 - Undead hero and eSports rolemodel
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-08 16:05:20
October 08 2012 15:58 GMT
#131
I had some fun today.

Disappointingly, this forum doesn't have a monospace environment (that I know of), so my beautiful formatting is lost. (Or, I have to work to prettify it.)

Probabilities are based on the Elo ratings from TLPD, where equal weight was given to the total Elo and the matchup-specific Elo. It's not clear which weighing would yield the most accurate predictions.

Taeja, Life and Rain are top three in overall Elo. That makes Taeja vs. Life essentially the highest rated match possible at the moment. How often has it happened that the two Elo leaders met in a match while they were Elo leaders, and a best of five at that?

+ Show Spoiler +
Yes, it's "Elo", not "ELO".


Anyway:

Rain vs. Mvp

Rain wins
      3-0: 19.079%
      3-1: 24.287%
      3-2: 20.610%
      Total: 63.976%

Mvp wins
      3-0: 7.639%
      3-1: 13.194%
      3-2: 15.191%
      Total: 36.024%

Most likely winner: Rain (63.976%)
Most likely outcome: Rain 3-1 Mvp (24.287%)

Taeja vs Life

Taeja wins
      3-0: 22.514%
      3-1: 26.453%
      3-2: 20.721%
      Total: 69.688%

Life wins
      3-0: 6.008%
      3-1: 10.964%
      3-2: 13.340%
      Total: 30.312%

Most likely winner: Taeja (69.688%)
Most likely outcome: Taeja 3-1 Life (26.453%)
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
October 08 2012 16:02 GMT
#132
On October 09 2012 00:37 Inzan1ty wrote:
Gosh, this is already tomorrow?

It's on Wednesday, which might technically be "tomorrow" if you are in one of those timezones.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
October 08 2012 16:07 GMT
#133
Taeja vs MVP finals would be so good
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
SomeONEx
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden641 Posts
October 08 2012 16:11 GMT
#134
Life fighting!
BW hwaiting!
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45159 Posts
October 08 2012 16:21 GMT
#135
As much as I love Mvp, I love SKT and Protoss more... and I don't want another TvT finals x.x

And Taeja please
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
illsick
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1770 Posts
October 08 2012 16:31 GMT
#136
So much hype, I love it

Rain to win it all :D
you live and you learn
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
October 08 2012 16:33 GMT
#137
Can someone link to the Grubby preview? I can't find it in the OP, there is nothing under the word Preview
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
October 08 2012 16:33 GMT
#138
On October 09 2012 01:33 Zzoram wrote:
Can someone link to the Grubby preview? I can't find it in the OP, there is nothing under the word Preview


2nd post by opterown. just scroll down
The Notorious Winkles
Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
October 08 2012 16:35 GMT
#139
On October 08 2012 21:21 ElephantBaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2012 19:41 sinigang wrote:
On October 08 2012 14:58 GolemMadness wrote:
On October 08 2012 14:13 sinigang wrote:
So maybe now we can finally see how BW skill translates to SC2:

Here were their stats in BW:

MVP:
All: 30-46 (39.47%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): W L L L L W L L W L

By.Sun:
All: 31-31 (50.00%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): W L W L L W W W W W

Game on!!


Meaning what...


Well MVP obviously sucked in BW, and Sun/Rain was pretty good. If Rain wins, then it means MVP's level of play isn't that good after all and may actually be just as bad as he was in BW. Then ESF players have a problem next GSL when KeSPA pros have fully practiced...

Also, MVP vs Flash record in BW was 1-6, so I can't wait to see those two go head to head in SC2.


Man, MVP did not suck in BW, he is pretty good, and up coming terran in BW when he retired.

People need to understand a 40% winrate with decent game numbers in proleague means you are very good.




Yeah, and don't forget that his injury was like acquired from birth (if I remember correctly). So he is playing the most intensive game mechanic wise, with an injury (although not this bad) and still get 40% win rate.
Without love, we can't see anything. Without love, the truth can't be seen. - Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
JazzJackrabbit
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1272 Posts
October 08 2012 16:43 GMT
#140
Surprised more people don't want to see MVP/Taeja.
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