• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 22:36
CEST 04:36
KST 11:36
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S RO8 Preview: Rogue, GuMiho, Solar, Maru3BGE Stara Zagora 2025: Info & Preview27Code S RO12 Preview: GuMiho, Bunny, SHIN, ByuN3The Memories We Share - Facing the Final(?) GSL47Code S RO12 Preview: Cure, Zoun, Solar, Creator4
Community News
BGE Stara Zagora 2025 - Replay Pack2Weekly Cups (June 2-8): herO doubles down1[BSL20] ProLeague: Bracket Stage & Dates9GSL Ro4 and Finals moved to Sunday June 15th13Weekly Cups (May 27-June 1): ByuN goes back-to-back0
StarCraft 2
General
BGE Stara Zagora 2025 - Replay Pack Code S RO8 Preview: Rogue, GuMiho, Solar, Maru Jim claims he and Firefly were involved in match-fixing The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation StarCraft 1 & 2 Added to Xbox Game Pass
Tourneys
[GSL 2025] Code S:Season 2 - RO8 - Group A Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) Bellum Gens Elite: Stara Zagora 2025 $3,500 WardiTV European League 2025 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
[G] Darkgrid Layout Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 477 Slow and Steady Mutation # 476 Charnel House Mutation # 475 Hard Target Mutation # 474 Futile Resistance
Brood War
General
BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion FlaSh Witnesses SCV Pull Off the Impossible vs Shu StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest Will foreigners ever be able to challenge Koreans?
Tourneys
[ASL19] Grand Finals RECOVER LOST BTC USDT FUNDS RECLAIMER COMPANY [BSL20] GosuLeague RO16 - Tue & Wed 20:00+CET NA Team League 6/8/2025
Strategy
I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread What do you want from future RTS games? Armies of Exigo - YesYes? Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
LiquidLegends to reintegrate into TL.net
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Vape Nation Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Maru Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Korean Music Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
A Better Routine For Progame…
TrAiDoS
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
I was completely wrong ab…
jameswatts
Need Your Help/Advice
Glider
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 32990 users

[Code S] Semi-Finals 2012 GSL Season 4 - Page 7

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 9 217 Next
Standard LR rules apply: No balance whining, no KeSPA vs. GomTV inciting, no excessive derailing ESPECIALLY when games are on. This is not a thread for you to argue with other people.
Ethi
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany275 Posts
October 08 2012 12:15 GMT
#121
Very nice preview, thank you Grubby!
But i have to disagree with you at one point. Never doubt Mvp.
Aquila-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
516 Posts
October 08 2012 12:17 GMT
#122
On October 08 2012 21:09 DeCoder wrote:
Life > Rain > Taeja > MVP


RUN BRO RUUUUUUUUN!!!
CrazyBirdman
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany3509 Posts
October 08 2012 12:19 GMT
#123
On October 08 2012 21:15 Ethi wrote:
Very nice preview, thank you Grubby!
But i have to disagree with you at one point. Never doubt Mvp.

He hasn't made the experiences of TL staff to know that you NEVER doubt Mvp.
ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
October 08 2012 12:21 GMT
#124
On October 08 2012 19:41 sinigang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2012 14:58 GolemMadness wrote:
On October 08 2012 14:13 sinigang wrote:
So maybe now we can finally see how BW skill translates to SC2:

Here were their stats in BW:

MVP:
All: 30-46 (39.47%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): W L L L L W L L W L

By.Sun:
All: 31-31 (50.00%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): W L W L L W W W W W

Game on!!


Meaning what...


Well MVP obviously sucked in BW, and Sun/Rain was pretty good. If Rain wins, then it means MVP's level of play isn't that good after all and may actually be just as bad as he was in BW. Then ESF players have a problem next GSL when KeSPA pros have fully practiced...

Also, MVP vs Flash record in BW was 1-6, so I can't wait to see those two go head to head in SC2.


Man, MVP did not suck in BW, he is pretty good, and up coming terran in BW when he retired.

People need to understand a 40% winrate with decent game numbers in proleague means you are very good.


DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
October 08 2012 12:34 GMT
#125
I want Rain to win.

But I've seen MVP defeat too many "unbeatable" players
Liquid | SKT
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 08 2012 12:43 GMT
#126
Poll: Head

Mvp (368)
 
51%

By.Rain (352)
 
49%

720 total votes

Your vote: Head

(Vote): By.Rain
(Vote): Mvp



this poll started out fairly heavily in rain's favour, but has quickly shifted to become much more even :o
interesting!
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
DOUDOU
Profile Joined October 2011
Wales2940 Posts
October 08 2012 12:46 GMT
#127
a preview by grubby!!! oh my oh my!


my heart want taeja mvp and rain to win the GSL

my brain is already full of active chemicals, but if i had to make a statement i'd give the win to life and rain
life has proved numerous times that he knows how to prepare, and that is the most important thing in GSL, sadly, i believe he can take taeja
same applies for rain, he just....knows what to do, i think even mvp can't stop the elephant stomp
Feast | Grubby | Mvp | Polt | Fantasy | Last | MMA | forGG | Leenock | Soberphano | Scarlett cutiepie
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 08 2012 12:48 GMT
#128
if jangbi takes things seriously he's much better than by.sun.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Rammstorm
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1434 Posts
October 08 2012 13:03 GMT
#129
I think Rain will win the series(3-1).
MVP will be forced to do early game(1-2 bases) pushes to beat him.
"MC" -> Master of Ceremonies xD
Inzan1ty
Profile Joined September 2012
1163 Posts
October 08 2012 15:37 GMT
#130
Gosh, this is already tomorrow?

So hyped for Rain vs Mvp, clash of the Protoss and Terran Titans

TaeJa should take out Life, would be a major upset if we see Life in finals imo.
RIP Seung Hyun 'Space' Park † 6/5/2013 - Undead hero and eSports rolemodel
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-08 16:05:20
October 08 2012 15:58 GMT
#131
I had some fun today.

Disappointingly, this forum doesn't have a monospace environment (that I know of), so my beautiful formatting is lost. (Or, I have to work to prettify it.)

Probabilities are based on the Elo ratings from TLPD, where equal weight was given to the total Elo and the matchup-specific Elo. It's not clear which weighing would yield the most accurate predictions.

Taeja, Life and Rain are top three in overall Elo. That makes Taeja vs. Life essentially the highest rated match possible at the moment. How often has it happened that the two Elo leaders met in a match while they were Elo leaders, and a best of five at that?

+ Show Spoiler +
Yes, it's "Elo", not "ELO".


Anyway:

Rain vs. Mvp

Rain wins
      3-0: 19.079%
      3-1: 24.287%
      3-2: 20.610%
      Total: 63.976%

Mvp wins
      3-0: 7.639%
      3-1: 13.194%
      3-2: 15.191%
      Total: 36.024%

Most likely winner: Rain (63.976%)
Most likely outcome: Rain 3-1 Mvp (24.287%)

Taeja vs Life

Taeja wins
      3-0: 22.514%
      3-1: 26.453%
      3-2: 20.721%
      Total: 69.688%

Life wins
      3-0: 6.008%
      3-1: 10.964%
      3-2: 13.340%
      Total: 30.312%

Most likely winner: Taeja (69.688%)
Most likely outcome: Taeja 3-1 Life (26.453%)
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
October 08 2012 16:02 GMT
#132
On October 09 2012 00:37 Inzan1ty wrote:
Gosh, this is already tomorrow?

It's on Wednesday, which might technically be "tomorrow" if you are in one of those timezones.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
October 08 2012 16:07 GMT
#133
Taeja vs MVP finals would be so good
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
SomeONEx
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden641 Posts
October 08 2012 16:11 GMT
#134
Life fighting!
BW hwaiting!
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44107 Posts
October 08 2012 16:21 GMT
#135
As much as I love Mvp, I love SKT and Protoss more... and I don't want another TvT finals x.x

And Taeja please
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
illsick
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1770 Posts
October 08 2012 16:31 GMT
#136
So much hype, I love it

Rain to win it all :D
you live and you learn
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
October 08 2012 16:33 GMT
#137
Can someone link to the Grubby preview? I can't find it in the OP, there is nothing under the word Preview
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
October 08 2012 16:33 GMT
#138
On October 09 2012 01:33 Zzoram wrote:
Can someone link to the Grubby preview? I can't find it in the OP, there is nothing under the word Preview


2nd post by opterown. just scroll down
The Notorious Winkles
Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
October 08 2012 16:35 GMT
#139
On October 08 2012 21:21 ElephantBaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2012 19:41 sinigang wrote:
On October 08 2012 14:58 GolemMadness wrote:
On October 08 2012 14:13 sinigang wrote:
So maybe now we can finally see how BW skill translates to SC2:

Here were their stats in BW:

MVP:
All: 30-46 (39.47%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): W L L L L W L L W L

By.Sun:
All: 31-31 (50.00%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): W L W L L W W W W W

Game on!!


Meaning what...


Well MVP obviously sucked in BW, and Sun/Rain was pretty good. If Rain wins, then it means MVP's level of play isn't that good after all and may actually be just as bad as he was in BW. Then ESF players have a problem next GSL when KeSPA pros have fully practiced...

Also, MVP vs Flash record in BW was 1-6, so I can't wait to see those two go head to head in SC2.


Man, MVP did not suck in BW, he is pretty good, and up coming terran in BW when he retired.

People need to understand a 40% winrate with decent game numbers in proleague means you are very good.




Yeah, and don't forget that his injury was like acquired from birth (if I remember correctly). So he is playing the most intensive game mechanic wise, with an injury (although not this bad) and still get 40% win rate.
Without love, we can't see anything. Without love, the truth can't be seen. - Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
JazzJackrabbit
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1272 Posts
October 08 2012 16:43 GMT
#140
Surprised more people don't want to see MVP/Taeja.
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 9 217 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiGosaur Monday
00:00
#35
PiGStarcraft656
CranKy Ducklings156
SteadfastSC152
davetesta32
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft656
SteadfastSC 152
RuFF_SC2 140
Nina 127
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 27505
Sea 3427
Sharp 45
Icarus 7
Dota 2
LuMiX1
League of Legends
tarik_tv8502
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor113
Other Games
summit1g9578
shahzam1185
ToD858
WinterStarcraft384
ViBE161
Maynarde150
Trikslyr35
kaitlyn31
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1042
BasetradeTV104
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH272
• rockletztv 73
• Hupsaiya 35
• Kozan
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• sooper7s
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki4
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Shiphtur1211
Other Games
• Scarra660
Upcoming Events
GSL Code S
6h 54m
Rogue vs GuMiho
Maru vs Solar
Online Event
21h 24m
Replay Cast
23h 24m
GSL Code S
1d 6h
herO vs Zoun
Classic vs Bunny
The PondCast
1d 7h
Replay Cast
1d 21h
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
OSC
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
SOOP
3 days
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
Cheesadelphia
3 days
CSO Cup
3 days
GSL Code S
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Cure vs Percival
ByuN vs Spirit
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 17: Qualifier 2
BGE Stara Zagora 2025
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
Rose Open S1
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
2025 GSL S2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025
BLAST Open Spring 2025

Upcoming

Copa Latinoamericana 4
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
Murky Cup #2
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.