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theonemav
Profile Joined June 2012
United States40 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-12 17:40:24
October 12 2012 17:29 GMT
#4301
On October 13 2012 02:26 Wildmoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 02:23 theonemav wrote:
On October 13 2012 02:17 Wildmoon wrote:
On October 13 2012 00:48 theonemav wrote:
On October 13 2012 00:42 InoyouS2 wrote:
On October 12 2012 23:15 X3GoldDot wrote:
On October 12 2012 22:47 InoyouS2 wrote:
On October 12 2012 21:28 X3GoldDot wrote:
On October 12 2012 21:12 InoyouS2 wrote:
On October 12 2012 18:46 X3GoldDot wrote:
[quote]
you dont rate a match based on how good the players were, you rate the match by how good they are now. And life is favored in that regard, thus he is favored in the match, it wont be underrating MVP. its like saying nestea would be favored if he faced against life using your logic. Nestea is a 3time champion, sure, but is he anywhere near Life's skill? absolutely NOT.



You are overrating Life from one tournament appearance, and I watched his play, it was not exactly revolutionary, in fact it was more down to TaeJa choking than Life winning.

I really hate when people say things like 'Rain is the most skills Protoss' or 'Life is the most skilled Zerg' or 'TaeJa is the most skilled Terran player', it's total non-sense; regardless of their skill levels, if they don't win it doesn't matter.


then you obviosly have the wrong mindset, or you are just trolling, or most likely, your just a blind MVP fanboy if you think taejas multiple wins across the world wasnt enough to make him the best terran in the world. or Rains ultimate demolishing of taeja, making to the ro4 GSL and finals of OSL wasnt enough to make him the best toss.


Why does TaeJa's 'multiple wins' suddenly make him the best Terran when Mvp has 4 times as many titles?

Either way you just come off as another hype-train fankiddy, and it's kinda sad to see.

Also, a few deep runs does not make Rain the best Protoss, seriously what kind of glue are you huffing? I don't honestly care about current form, I care about consistency, and that's where the safe bets are always placed. TL;DR: Jumping on and off hype trains will make you one disappointed fankid.

let me translate what youre saying:
nestea is a 3 time champ, hes better than all the other zergs like life, leenock and curious cause they dont have championship titles, I DONT CARE IF HES CODE B HES STILL BETTER CAUSE OF HIS PAST CHAMPIONSHIP TROPHIES!!
if you dont think that attitude of judging a player from distant past is retarded, then GL at predictions bro


I'm amused at how it's just the Rain fanboys left sulking in this thread, get your shit together.


You know what will be even more funny? All the MVP fanboys butthurt after Life destroys him... muhahaha.


Nothing to be sad about even if he loses in the final. He is clearly the best player in SC2:WoL by far with no contest. He already won GSL this year and may won another one. This guy also got into the final 6 times which is the achievement that other pros couldn't even dream of.


He was the player of 2011 no doubt... I just find it funny how all these MVP fanboys come out predicting 4-0 4-1 victories vs a player in Life that looks far better so far in THIS seasons GSL.


What do you mean by he was the player of 2011? He is the only player to make it to the final 2 times this year and Mvp 4-0,4-1 unlikely won't happen but it's possible.


Well DRG has two MLGs, a GSL, a deep run in another GSL, and a deep run in OSL and two 2nds in MLG. I would call him the player of 2012.
will216
Profile Joined August 2012
United States185 Posts
October 12 2012 17:46 GMT
#4302
Now it's the Life bandwagon, you taeja and Rain fanboys have jumped on. Sorry, Kids but MVP is going to school this kid. Life is good but I don't see him beating someone as good as MVP. Taeja is just overrated, the only thing he has done is school a bunch of foreigners. MVP has won 4 gsl's. Taeja has won MLG's. Beating up on the weak doesn't show greatness.
I'm not the greatest , but I will be one day ...
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
October 12 2012 17:47 GMT
#4303
On October 13 2012 02:46 will216 wrote:
Life is good


I laugh as much every time ^^
AdministratorBreak the chains
-TesteR-
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1165 Posts
October 12 2012 18:10 GMT
#4304
On October 13 2012 02:29 theonemav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 02:26 Wildmoon wrote:
On October 13 2012 02:23 theonemav wrote:
On October 13 2012 02:17 Wildmoon wrote:
On October 13 2012 00:48 theonemav wrote:
On October 13 2012 00:42 InoyouS2 wrote:
On October 12 2012 23:15 X3GoldDot wrote:
On October 12 2012 22:47 InoyouS2 wrote:
On October 12 2012 21:28 X3GoldDot wrote:
On October 12 2012 21:12 InoyouS2 wrote:
[quote]

You are overrating Life from one tournament appearance, and I watched his play, it was not exactly revolutionary, in fact it was more down to TaeJa choking than Life winning.

I really hate when people say things like 'Rain is the most skills Protoss' or 'Life is the most skilled Zerg' or 'TaeJa is the most skilled Terran player', it's total non-sense; regardless of their skill levels, if they don't win it doesn't matter.


then you obviosly have the wrong mindset, or you are just trolling, or most likely, your just a blind MVP fanboy if you think taejas multiple wins across the world wasnt enough to make him the best terran in the world. or Rains ultimate demolishing of taeja, making to the ro4 GSL and finals of OSL wasnt enough to make him the best toss.


Why does TaeJa's 'multiple wins' suddenly make him the best Terran when Mvp has 4 times as many titles?

Either way you just come off as another hype-train fankiddy, and it's kinda sad to see.

Also, a few deep runs does not make Rain the best Protoss, seriously what kind of glue are you huffing? I don't honestly care about current form, I care about consistency, and that's where the safe bets are always placed. TL;DR: Jumping on and off hype trains will make you one disappointed fankid.

let me translate what youre saying:
nestea is a 3 time champ, hes better than all the other zergs like life, leenock and curious cause they dont have championship titles, I DONT CARE IF HES CODE B HES STILL BETTER CAUSE OF HIS PAST CHAMPIONSHIP TROPHIES!!
if you dont think that attitude of judging a player from distant past is retarded, then GL at predictions bro


I'm amused at how it's just the Rain fanboys left sulking in this thread, get your shit together.


You know what will be even more funny? All the MVP fanboys butthurt after Life destroys him... muhahaha.


Nothing to be sad about even if he loses in the final. He is clearly the best player in SC2:WoL by far with no contest. He already won GSL this year and may won another one. This guy also got into the final 6 times which is the achievement that other pros couldn't even dream of.


He was the player of 2011 no doubt... I just find it funny how all these MVP fanboys come out predicting 4-0 4-1 victories vs a player in Life that looks far better so far in THIS seasons GSL.


What do you mean by he was the player of 2011? He is the only player to make it to the final 2 times this year and Mvp 4-0,4-1 unlikely won't happen but it's possible.


Well DRG has two MLGs, a GSL, a deep run in another GSL, and a deep run in OSL and two 2nds in MLG. I would call him the player of 2012.


MC has better results than DRG for 2012.
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
October 12 2012 18:24 GMT
#4305
This thread has devloved into a complete and utter shitshow. Take your useless bickering to PMs, would you?

Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
fer
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada375 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-12 18:55:34
October 12 2012 18:31 GMT
#4306
Woops double post
WellPlayed.org <3
fer
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada375 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-12 18:55:16
October 12 2012 18:55 GMT
#4307
On October 11 2012 00:39 partysnatcher wrote:
MVP is in my opinion one of the most overrated stars out there. Like Polt, his skillset simply doesn't draw me in as a fan, and most people who are a fan of him, usually uses his "amount of wins" as argument for why.

I personally hope he gets crushed in the finals.



LOL, how can he be overrated. He has accomplished more than anyone else in the scene...

If Mvp is overrated, then everyone else in the planet is as well.



The control and creativity are what I consider the "skills" in SC2, not the opponent preparation abilities and intraset mindgames, which are MVPs strengths.


This is just so convenient. You're basically saying "every skill in the set of skills that makes a player good at SC2, that Mvp possesses, I'll arbitrarily remove from the set."

Which should not actually matter. A player is defined to be the best at the game, if whatever he does makes him win at the game. The game in question is Starcraft II: Wings of Liberty. Perhaps you should replace every instance of SC2 in your posts with the mythical games "Creativity-craft", "Micro-craft" "x-craft".

Who is the best at 100m sprinting? Is it the sprinter that gets from start to finish in the shortest time, or is it the sprinter that attempted it blindfolded, while running backwards without winning. Who is the best at tic-tac-toe? Is the the player who loses 100% of his games, but just drew those crosses and circles in such serene and elegant fashion?

Mvp is not overrated in Starcraft II.
WellPlayed.org <3
theonemav
Profile Joined June 2012
United States40 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-12 19:57:57
October 12 2012 19:56 GMT
#4308
On October 13 2012 03:55 fer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2012 00:39 partysnatcher wrote:
MVP is in my opinion one of the most overrated stars out there. Like Polt, his skillset simply doesn't draw me in as a fan, and most people who are a fan of him, usually uses his "amount of wins" as argument for why.

I personally hope he gets crushed in the finals.



LOL, how can he be overrated. He has accomplished more than anyone else in the scene...

If Mvp is overrated, then everyone else in the planet is as well.


Show nested quote +

The control and creativity are what I consider the "skills" in SC2, not the opponent preparation abilities and intraset mindgames, which are MVPs strengths.


This is just so convenient. You're basically saying "every skill in the set of skills that makes a player good at SC2, that Mvp possesses, I'll arbitrarily remove from the set."

Which should not actually matter. A player is defined to be the best at the game, if whatever he does makes him win at the game. The game in question is Starcraft II: Wings of Liberty. Perhaps you should replace every instance of SC2 in your posts with the mythical games "Creativity-craft", "Micro-craft" "x-craft".

Who is the best at 100m sprinting? Is it the sprinter that gets from start to finish in the shortest time, or is it the sprinter that attempted it blindfolded, while running backwards without winning. Who is the best at tic-tac-toe? Is the the player who loses 100% of his games, but just drew those crosses and circles in such serene and elegant fashion?

Mvp is not overrated in Starcraft II.


MVP is the best SC2 player of ALL TIME, however he is not be the best SC2 player RIGHT NOW. So people respond to fanboys thinking hes unbeatable like he was in 2011 calling him overrated.... Between the two groups I think hes "rated" just fine.

InoyouS2
Profile Joined December 2011
1005 Posts
October 12 2012 21:24 GMT
#4309
On October 13 2012 04:56 theonemav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 03:55 fer wrote:
On October 11 2012 00:39 partysnatcher wrote:
MVP is in my opinion one of the most overrated stars out there. Like Polt, his skillset simply doesn't draw me in as a fan, and most people who are a fan of him, usually uses his "amount of wins" as argument for why.

I personally hope he gets crushed in the finals.



LOL, how can he be overrated. He has accomplished more than anyone else in the scene...

If Mvp is overrated, then everyone else in the planet is as well.



The control and creativity are what I consider the "skills" in SC2, not the opponent preparation abilities and intraset mindgames, which are MVPs strengths.


This is just so convenient. You're basically saying "every skill in the set of skills that makes a player good at SC2, that Mvp possesses, I'll arbitrarily remove from the set."

Which should not actually matter. A player is defined to be the best at the game, if whatever he does makes him win at the game. The game in question is Starcraft II: Wings of Liberty. Perhaps you should replace every instance of SC2 in your posts with the mythical games "Creativity-craft", "Micro-craft" "x-craft".

Who is the best at 100m sprinting? Is it the sprinter that gets from start to finish in the shortest time, or is it the sprinter that attempted it blindfolded, while running backwards without winning. Who is the best at tic-tac-toe? Is the the player who loses 100% of his games, but just drew those crosses and circles in such serene and elegant fashion?

Mvp is not overrated in Starcraft II.


MVP is the best SC2 player of ALL TIME, however he is not be the best SC2 player RIGHT NOW. So people respond to fanboys thinking hes unbeatable like he was in 2011 calling him overrated.... Between the two groups I think hes "rated" just fine.



In GSL finals RIGHT NOW, I'd say that's enough proof.
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Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 12 2012 21:25 GMT
#4310
hey guys, curious is the world champion, you're approaching this wrong
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setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
October 12 2012 21:33 GMT
#4311
On October 13 2012 04:56 theonemav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 03:55 fer wrote:
On October 11 2012 00:39 partysnatcher wrote:
MVP is in my opinion one of the most overrated stars out there. Like Polt, his skillset simply doesn't draw me in as a fan, and most people who are a fan of him, usually uses his "amount of wins" as argument for why.

I personally hope he gets crushed in the finals.



LOL, how can he be overrated. He has accomplished more than anyone else in the scene...

If Mvp is overrated, then everyone else in the planet is as well.



The control and creativity are what I consider the "skills" in SC2, not the opponent preparation abilities and intraset mindgames, which are MVPs strengths.


This is just so convenient. You're basically saying "every skill in the set of skills that makes a player good at SC2, that Mvp possesses, I'll arbitrarily remove from the set."

Which should not actually matter. A player is defined to be the best at the game, if whatever he does makes him win at the game. The game in question is Starcraft II: Wings of Liberty. Perhaps you should replace every instance of SC2 in your posts with the mythical games "Creativity-craft", "Micro-craft" "x-craft".

Who is the best at 100m sprinting? Is it the sprinter that gets from start to finish in the shortest time, or is it the sprinter that attempted it blindfolded, while running backwards without winning. Who is the best at tic-tac-toe? Is the the player who loses 100% of his games, but just drew those crosses and circles in such serene and elegant fashion?

Mvp is not overrated in Starcraft II.


MVP is the best SC2 player of ALL TIME, however he is not be the best SC2 player RIGHT NOW. So people respond to fanboys thinking hes unbeatable like he was in 2011 calling him overrated.... Between the two groups I think hes "rated" just fine.



No one thought MVP was unbeatable when he went on to win GSL S2, no one thought he was unbeatable when he won IEM and no one thought he was unbeatable this season and he is now in the finals. MVP is one of a the most consistent and solid performers and because of a few bad tournaments (MLG arena, HSC) internationally he falls completely off the radar. I'm really not sure how he can be so overrated yet be considered a huge underdog in both of the last two seasons he has appeared in the finals.
ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
October 12 2012 21:54 GMT
#4312
On October 13 2012 03:10 -TesteR- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 02:29 theonemav wrote:
On October 13 2012 02:26 Wildmoon wrote:
On October 13 2012 02:23 theonemav wrote:
On October 13 2012 02:17 Wildmoon wrote:
On October 13 2012 00:48 theonemav wrote:
On October 13 2012 00:42 InoyouS2 wrote:
On October 12 2012 23:15 X3GoldDot wrote:
On October 12 2012 22:47 InoyouS2 wrote:
On October 12 2012 21:28 X3GoldDot wrote:
[quote]

then you obviosly have the wrong mindset, or you are just trolling, or most likely, your just a blind MVP fanboy if you think taejas multiple wins across the world wasnt enough to make him the best terran in the world. or Rains ultimate demolishing of taeja, making to the ro4 GSL and finals of OSL wasnt enough to make him the best toss.


Why does TaeJa's 'multiple wins' suddenly make him the best Terran when Mvp has 4 times as many titles?

Either way you just come off as another hype-train fankiddy, and it's kinda sad to see.

Also, a few deep runs does not make Rain the best Protoss, seriously what kind of glue are you huffing? I don't honestly care about current form, I care about consistency, and that's where the safe bets are always placed. TL;DR: Jumping on and off hype trains will make you one disappointed fankid.

let me translate what youre saying:
nestea is a 3 time champ, hes better than all the other zergs like life, leenock and curious cause they dont have championship titles, I DONT CARE IF HES CODE B HES STILL BETTER CAUSE OF HIS PAST CHAMPIONSHIP TROPHIES!!
if you dont think that attitude of judging a player from distant past is retarded, then GL at predictions bro


I'm amused at how it's just the Rain fanboys left sulking in this thread, get your shit together.


You know what will be even more funny? All the MVP fanboys butthurt after Life destroys him... muhahaha.


Nothing to be sad about even if he loses in the final. He is clearly the best player in SC2:WoL by far with no contest. He already won GSL this year and may won another one. This guy also got into the final 6 times which is the achievement that other pros couldn't even dream of.


He was the player of 2011 no doubt... I just find it funny how all these MVP fanboys come out predicting 4-0 4-1 victories vs a player in Life that looks far better so far in THIS seasons GSL.


What do you mean by he was the player of 2011? He is the only player to make it to the final 2 times this year and Mvp 4-0,4-1 unlikely won't happen but it's possible.


Well DRG has two MLGs, a GSL, a deep run in another GSL, and a deep run in OSL and two 2nds in MLG. I would call him the player of 2012.


MC has better results than DRG for 2012.


What does MC have in 2012?
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
October 12 2012 21:58 GMT
#4313
On October 13 2012 06:54 ElephantBaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 03:10 -TesteR- wrote:
On October 13 2012 02:29 theonemav wrote:
On October 13 2012 02:26 Wildmoon wrote:
On October 13 2012 02:23 theonemav wrote:
On October 13 2012 02:17 Wildmoon wrote:
On October 13 2012 00:48 theonemav wrote:
On October 13 2012 00:42 InoyouS2 wrote:
On October 12 2012 23:15 X3GoldDot wrote:
On October 12 2012 22:47 InoyouS2 wrote:
[quote]

Why does TaeJa's 'multiple wins' suddenly make him the best Terran when Mvp has 4 times as many titles?

Either way you just come off as another hype-train fankiddy, and it's kinda sad to see.

Also, a few deep runs does not make Rain the best Protoss, seriously what kind of glue are you huffing? I don't honestly care about current form, I care about consistency, and that's where the safe bets are always placed. TL;DR: Jumping on and off hype trains will make you one disappointed fankid.

let me translate what youre saying:
nestea is a 3 time champ, hes better than all the other zergs like life, leenock and curious cause they dont have championship titles, I DONT CARE IF HES CODE B HES STILL BETTER CAUSE OF HIS PAST CHAMPIONSHIP TROPHIES!!
if you dont think that attitude of judging a player from distant past is retarded, then GL at predictions bro


I'm amused at how it's just the Rain fanboys left sulking in this thread, get your shit together.


You know what will be even more funny? All the MVP fanboys butthurt after Life destroys him... muhahaha.


Nothing to be sad about even if he loses in the final. He is clearly the best player in SC2:WoL by far with no contest. He already won GSL this year and may won another one. This guy also got into the final 6 times which is the achievement that other pros couldn't even dream of.


He was the player of 2011 no doubt... I just find it funny how all these MVP fanboys come out predicting 4-0 4-1 victories vs a player in Life that looks far better so far in THIS seasons GSL.


What do you mean by he was the player of 2011? He is the only player to make it to the final 2 times this year and Mvp 4-0,4-1 unlikely won't happen but it's possible.


Well DRG has two MLGs, a GSL, a deep run in another GSL, and a deep run in OSL and two 2nds in MLG. I would call him the player of 2012.


MC has better results than DRG for 2012.


What does MC have in 2012?


He beat up some foreigners.
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
October 12 2012 21:59 GMT
#4314
On October 13 2012 06:54 ElephantBaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 03:10 -TesteR- wrote:
On October 13 2012 02:29 theonemav wrote:
On October 13 2012 02:26 Wildmoon wrote:
On October 13 2012 02:23 theonemav wrote:
On October 13 2012 02:17 Wildmoon wrote:
On October 13 2012 00:48 theonemav wrote:
On October 13 2012 00:42 InoyouS2 wrote:
On October 12 2012 23:15 X3GoldDot wrote:
On October 12 2012 22:47 InoyouS2 wrote:
[quote]

Why does TaeJa's 'multiple wins' suddenly make him the best Terran when Mvp has 4 times as many titles?

Either way you just come off as another hype-train fankiddy, and it's kinda sad to see.

Also, a few deep runs does not make Rain the best Protoss, seriously what kind of glue are you huffing? I don't honestly care about current form, I care about consistency, and that's where the safe bets are always placed. TL;DR: Jumping on and off hype trains will make you one disappointed fankid.

let me translate what youre saying:
nestea is a 3 time champ, hes better than all the other zergs like life, leenock and curious cause they dont have championship titles, I DONT CARE IF HES CODE B HES STILL BETTER CAUSE OF HIS PAST CHAMPIONSHIP TROPHIES!!
if you dont think that attitude of judging a player from distant past is retarded, then GL at predictions bro


I'm amused at how it's just the Rain fanboys left sulking in this thread, get your shit together.


You know what will be even more funny? All the MVP fanboys butthurt after Life destroys him... muhahaha.


Nothing to be sad about even if he loses in the final. He is clearly the best player in SC2:WoL by far with no contest. He already won GSL this year and may won another one. This guy also got into the final 6 times which is the achievement that other pros couldn't even dream of.


He was the player of 2011 no doubt... I just find it funny how all these MVP fanboys come out predicting 4-0 4-1 victories vs a player in Life that looks far better so far in THIS seasons GSL.


What do you mean by he was the player of 2011? He is the only player to make it to the final 2 times this year and Mvp 4-0,4-1 unlikely won't happen but it's possible.


Well DRG has two MLGs, a GSL, a deep run in another GSL, and a deep run in OSL and two 2nds in MLG. I would call him the player of 2012.


MC has better results than DRG for 2012.


What does MC have in 2012?


This

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BlazeFury01
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1460 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-12 22:04:51
October 12 2012 22:04 GMT
#4315
On October 13 2012 04:56 theonemav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 03:55 fer wrote:
On October 11 2012 00:39 partysnatcher wrote:
MVP is in my opinion one of the most overrated stars out there. Like Polt, his skillset simply doesn't draw me in as a fan, and most people who are a fan of him, usually uses his "amount of wins" as argument for why.

I personally hope he gets crushed in the finals.



LOL, how can he be overrated. He has accomplished more than anyone else in the scene...

If Mvp is overrated, then everyone else in the planet is as well.



The control and creativity are what I consider the "skills" in SC2, not the opponent preparation abilities and intraset mindgames, which are MVPs strengths.


This is just so convenient. You're basically saying "every skill in the set of skills that makes a player good at SC2, that Mvp possesses, I'll arbitrarily remove from the set."

Which should not actually matter. A player is defined to be the best at the game, if whatever he does makes him win at the game. The game in question is Starcraft II: Wings of Liberty. Perhaps you should replace every instance of SC2 in your posts with the mythical games "Creativity-craft", "Micro-craft" "x-craft".

Who is the best at 100m sprinting? Is it the sprinter that gets from start to finish in the shortest time, or is it the sprinter that attempted it blindfolded, while running backwards without winning. Who is the best at tic-tac-toe? Is the the player who loses 100% of his games, but just drew those crosses and circles in such serene and elegant fashion?

Mvp is not overrated in Starcraft II.


MVP is the best SC2 player of ALL TIME, however he is not be the best SC2 player RIGHT NOW. So people respond to fanboys thinking hes unbeatable like he was in 2011 calling him overrated.... Between the two groups I think hes "rated" just fine.



MVP is the most "successful" & "accomplished" SC2: "Wings of Liberty" player. He's definitely not overrated as he currently holds the most GSL victories out of anybody. The best SC2 player of all time will be decided after LOTV has been out for a few years.
ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
October 12 2012 22:06 GMT
#4316
On October 13 2012 06:59 Zealously wrote:
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On October 13 2012 06:54 ElephantBaby wrote:
On October 13 2012 03:10 -TesteR- wrote:
On October 13 2012 02:29 theonemav wrote:
On October 13 2012 02:26 Wildmoon wrote:
On October 13 2012 02:23 theonemav wrote:
On October 13 2012 02:17 Wildmoon wrote:
On October 13 2012 00:48 theonemav wrote:
On October 13 2012 00:42 InoyouS2 wrote:
On October 12 2012 23:15 X3GoldDot wrote:
[quote]
let me translate what youre saying:
nestea is a 3 time champ, hes better than all the other zergs like life, leenock and curious cause they dont have championship titles, I DONT CARE IF HES CODE B HES STILL BETTER CAUSE OF HIS PAST CHAMPIONSHIP TROPHIES!!
if you dont think that attitude of judging a player from distant past is retarded, then GL at predictions bro


I'm amused at how it's just the Rain fanboys left sulking in this thread, get your shit together.


You know what will be even more funny? All the MVP fanboys butthurt after Life destroys him... muhahaha.


Nothing to be sad about even if he loses in the final. He is clearly the best player in SC2:WoL by far with no contest. He already won GSL this year and may won another one. This guy also got into the final 6 times which is the achievement that other pros couldn't even dream of.


He was the player of 2011 no doubt... I just find it funny how all these MVP fanboys come out predicting 4-0 4-1 victories vs a player in Life that looks far better so far in THIS seasons GSL.


What do you mean by he was the player of 2011? He is the only player to make it to the final 2 times this year and Mvp 4-0,4-1 unlikely won't happen but it's possible.


Well DRG has two MLGs, a GSL, a deep run in another GSL, and a deep run in OSL and two 2nds in MLG. I would call him the player of 2012.


MC has better results than DRG for 2012.


What does MC have in 2012?


This


Who won more, DRG or MC?
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
October 12 2012 22:22 GMT
#4317
On October 13 2012 07:06 ElephantBaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 06:59 Zealously wrote:
On October 13 2012 06:54 ElephantBaby wrote:
On October 13 2012 03:10 -TesteR- wrote:
On October 13 2012 02:29 theonemav wrote:
On October 13 2012 02:26 Wildmoon wrote:
On October 13 2012 02:23 theonemav wrote:
On October 13 2012 02:17 Wildmoon wrote:
On October 13 2012 00:48 theonemav wrote:
On October 13 2012 00:42 InoyouS2 wrote:
[quote]

I'm amused at how it's just the Rain fanboys left sulking in this thread, get your shit together.


You know what will be even more funny? All the MVP fanboys butthurt after Life destroys him... muhahaha.


Nothing to be sad about even if he loses in the final. He is clearly the best player in SC2:WoL by far with no contest. He already won GSL this year and may won another one. This guy also got into the final 6 times which is the achievement that other pros couldn't even dream of.


He was the player of 2011 no doubt... I just find it funny how all these MVP fanboys come out predicting 4-0 4-1 victories vs a player in Life that looks far better so far in THIS seasons GSL.


What do you mean by he was the player of 2011? He is the only player to make it to the final 2 times this year and Mvp 4-0,4-1 unlikely won't happen but it's possible.


Well DRG has two MLGs, a GSL, a deep run in another GSL, and a deep run in OSL and two 2nds in MLG. I would call him the player of 2012.


MC has better results than DRG for 2012.


What does MC have in 2012?


This


Who won more, DRG or MC?

According to Sc2earnings.com MC won 110118$ in the year 2012, drg won "only" 108828$ :D
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valentine1
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia129 Posts
October 13 2012 08:02 GMT
#4318
the problem is that everyone has their own criteria to determine 'who is the best player right now.' for tasteless, it's obviously who has beaten the player he last called the best player in the world.

is mvp the best? he's certainly the best at being the most consistent, 6 gsl final appearances since early 2011. that's unprecedented, and his play isn't gimmicky at all. in that regard, he truly is 'one of the best in the world' but it's pretty much impossible to argue just one player with certainty.

rain, even though i don't like him (i'm scared of elephants), is a pretty freaking dominating player, and he is certainly 'one of the best' protosses by virtue of his OSL final appearance and ro4 gsl...

i wish we'd all stop trying to say that one player is better than any other, until there is a player that doesn't lose to anyone for 3 months through metagame shifts... then it'd be certain. right now you've got a pool of top best players, but who wins on the day? it's down to so many factors, but they're still amazing at sc2.
fluffywaffles
Profile Joined October 2012
1 Post
October 13 2012 09:25 GMT
#4319
I I am currently living in Seoul for a few months and I would really like to catch the Code S finals live on oct 20th. Do I have to buy tickets to see the games? And where is the event going to be hosted?

Thanks
Growiel
Profile Joined October 2010
Korea (South)363 Posts
October 14 2012 09:30 GMT
#4320
On October 13 2012 18:25 fluffywaffles wrote:
I I am currently living in Seoul for a few months and I would really like to catch the Code S finals live on oct 20th. Do I have to buy tickets to see the games? And where is the event going to be hosted?

Thanks


The event is going to be at COEX, in Seoul.

I don't have any official intel for the tickets, but since normal games in the studio are free, i'm pretty the finals also are.
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