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On October 12 2012 21:12 InoyouS2 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 18:46 X3GoldDot wrote:On October 12 2012 17:46 Entirety wrote:On October 12 2012 04:19 Corrosive wrote:On October 11 2012 00:39 partysnatcher wrote:
MVP is in my opinion one of the most overrated stars out there. Like Polt, his skillset simply doesn't draw me in as a fan, and most people who are a fan of him, usually uses his "amount of wins" as argument for why.
I personally hope he gets crushed in the finals. overrated ---> fans use his amount of wins for why he's good what the fuck am i reading 4 time gsl winner 6 time gsl finalist best performing sc2 player ever so far this has to be a troll i know that post is old but i had to reply to it Yes, that is completely ridiculous. Given how much Mvp has won, here is the 'acceptable' level of hype: Mvp is the best StarCraft 2 player seen thus far, he will win this GSL handily. It is 'acceptable' level because he deserves that much hype for all of his accomplishments. Now, on the other hand... Overrating: Mvp will never lose ever again and he will become the 1st SC2 bonjwa after winning every tournament for 10 years (it's overrating because Mvp doesn't deserve that much...) Underrating: Mvp will lose to Life. (Based on accomplishments alone, a 0 GSL winner vs. a 5 GSL finalist... saying that the 5 GSL finalist won't win is called underrating) That's right, predicting Life over Mvp is actually underrating Mvp based on achievements. you dont rate a match based on how good the players were, you rate the match by how good they are now. And life is favored in that regard, thus he is favored in the match, it wont be underrating MVP. its like saying nestea would be favored if he faced against life using your logic. Nestea is a 3time champion, sure, but is he anywhere near Life's skill? absolutely NOT. You are overrating Life from one tournament appearance, and I watched his play, it was not exactly revolutionary, in fact it was more down to TaeJa choking than Life winning. I really hate when people say things like 'Rain is the most skills Protoss' or 'Life is the most skilled Zerg' or 'TaeJa is the most skilled Terran player', it's total non-sense; regardless of their skill levels, if they don't win it doesn't matter.
then you obviosly have the wrong mindset, or you are just trolling, or most likely, your just a blind MVP fanboy if you think taejas multiple wins across the world wasnt enough to make him the best terran in the world. or Rains ultimate demolishing of taeja, making to the ro4 GSL and finals of OSL wasnt enough to make him the best toss.
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On October 12 2012 21:28 X3GoldDot wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 21:12 InoyouS2 wrote:On October 12 2012 18:46 X3GoldDot wrote:On October 12 2012 17:46 Entirety wrote:On October 12 2012 04:19 Corrosive wrote:On October 11 2012 00:39 partysnatcher wrote:
MVP is in my opinion one of the most overrated stars out there. Like Polt, his skillset simply doesn't draw me in as a fan, and most people who are a fan of him, usually uses his "amount of wins" as argument for why.
I personally hope he gets crushed in the finals. overrated ---> fans use his amount of wins for why he's good what the fuck am i reading 4 time gsl winner 6 time gsl finalist best performing sc2 player ever so far this has to be a troll i know that post is old but i had to reply to it Yes, that is completely ridiculous. Given how much Mvp has won, here is the 'acceptable' level of hype: Mvp is the best StarCraft 2 player seen thus far, he will win this GSL handily. It is 'acceptable' level because he deserves that much hype for all of his accomplishments. Now, on the other hand... Overrating: Mvp will never lose ever again and he will become the 1st SC2 bonjwa after winning every tournament for 10 years (it's overrating because Mvp doesn't deserve that much...) Underrating: Mvp will lose to Life. (Based on accomplishments alone, a 0 GSL winner vs. a 5 GSL finalist... saying that the 5 GSL finalist won't win is called underrating) That's right, predicting Life over Mvp is actually underrating Mvp based on achievements. you dont rate a match based on how good the players were, you rate the match by how good they are now. And life is favored in that regard, thus he is favored in the match, it wont be underrating MVP. its like saying nestea would be favored if he faced against life using your logic. Nestea is a 3time champion, sure, but is he anywhere near Life's skill? absolutely NOT. You are overrating Life from one tournament appearance, and I watched his play, it was not exactly revolutionary, in fact it was more down to TaeJa choking than Life winning. I really hate when people say things like 'Rain is the most skills Protoss' or 'Life is the most skilled Zerg' or 'TaeJa is the most skilled Terran player', it's total non-sense; regardless of their skill levels, if they don't win it doesn't matter. then you obviosly have the wrong mindset, or you are just trolling, or most likely, your just a blind MVP fanboy if you think taejas multiple wins across the world wasnt enough to make him the best terran in the world. or Rains ultimate demolishing of taeja, making to the ro4 GSL and finals of OSL wasnt enough to make him the best toss.
um, taeja's multiple wins were against more mediocre opposition than mvp's wins in korea
beating taeja does not mean you are the best zerg or terran, haha
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On October 12 2012 21:28 X3GoldDot wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 21:12 InoyouS2 wrote:On October 12 2012 18:46 X3GoldDot wrote:On October 12 2012 17:46 Entirety wrote:On October 12 2012 04:19 Corrosive wrote:On October 11 2012 00:39 partysnatcher wrote:
MVP is in my opinion one of the most overrated stars out there. Like Polt, his skillset simply doesn't draw me in as a fan, and most people who are a fan of him, usually uses his "amount of wins" as argument for why.
I personally hope he gets crushed in the finals. overrated ---> fans use his amount of wins for why he's good what the fuck am i reading 4 time gsl winner 6 time gsl finalist best performing sc2 player ever so far this has to be a troll i know that post is old but i had to reply to it Yes, that is completely ridiculous. Given how much Mvp has won, here is the 'acceptable' level of hype: Mvp is the best StarCraft 2 player seen thus far, he will win this GSL handily. It is 'acceptable' level because he deserves that much hype for all of his accomplishments. Now, on the other hand... Overrating: Mvp will never lose ever again and he will become the 1st SC2 bonjwa after winning every tournament for 10 years (it's overrating because Mvp doesn't deserve that much...) Underrating: Mvp will lose to Life. (Based on accomplishments alone, a 0 GSL winner vs. a 5 GSL finalist... saying that the 5 GSL finalist won't win is called underrating) That's right, predicting Life over Mvp is actually underrating Mvp based on achievements. you dont rate a match based on how good the players were, you rate the match by how good they are now. And life is favored in that regard, thus he is favored in the match, it wont be underrating MVP. its like saying nestea would be favored if he faced against life using your logic. Nestea is a 3time champion, sure, but is he anywhere near Life's skill? absolutely NOT. You are overrating Life from one tournament appearance, and I watched his play, it was not exactly revolutionary, in fact it was more down to TaeJa choking than Life winning. I really hate when people say things like 'Rain is the most skills Protoss' or 'Life is the most skilled Zerg' or 'TaeJa is the most skilled Terran player', it's total non-sense; regardless of their skill levels, if they don't win it doesn't matter. then you obviosly have the wrong mindset, or you are just trolling, or most likely, your just a blind MVP fanboy if you think taejas multiple wins across the world wasnt enough to make him the best terran in the world. or Rains ultimate demolishing of taeja, making to the ro4 GSL and finals of OSL wasnt enough to make him the best toss.
Why does TaeJa's 'multiple wins' suddenly make him the best Terran when Mvp has 4 times as many titles?
Either way you just come off as another hype-train fankiddy, and it's kinda sad to see.
Also, a few deep runs does not make Rain the best Protoss, seriously what kind of glue are you huffing? I don't honestly care about current form, I care about consistency, and that's where the safe bets are always placed. TL;DR: Jumping on and off hype trains will make you one disappointed fankid.
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How are people still saying Taeja is the best terran when MVP is in the finals and taeja is not?
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On October 12 2012 22:47 InoyouS2 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 21:28 X3GoldDot wrote:On October 12 2012 21:12 InoyouS2 wrote:On October 12 2012 18:46 X3GoldDot wrote:On October 12 2012 17:46 Entirety wrote:On October 12 2012 04:19 Corrosive wrote:On October 11 2012 00:39 partysnatcher wrote:
MVP is in my opinion one of the most overrated stars out there. Like Polt, his skillset simply doesn't draw me in as a fan, and most people who are a fan of him, usually uses his "amount of wins" as argument for why.
I personally hope he gets crushed in the finals. overrated ---> fans use his amount of wins for why he's good what the fuck am i reading 4 time gsl winner 6 time gsl finalist best performing sc2 player ever so far this has to be a troll i know that post is old but i had to reply to it Yes, that is completely ridiculous. Given how much Mvp has won, here is the 'acceptable' level of hype: Mvp is the best StarCraft 2 player seen thus far, he will win this GSL handily. It is 'acceptable' level because he deserves that much hype for all of his accomplishments. Now, on the other hand... Overrating: Mvp will never lose ever again and he will become the 1st SC2 bonjwa after winning every tournament for 10 years (it's overrating because Mvp doesn't deserve that much...) Underrating: Mvp will lose to Life. (Based on accomplishments alone, a 0 GSL winner vs. a 5 GSL finalist... saying that the 5 GSL finalist won't win is called underrating) That's right, predicting Life over Mvp is actually underrating Mvp based on achievements. you dont rate a match based on how good the players were, you rate the match by how good they are now. And life is favored in that regard, thus he is favored in the match, it wont be underrating MVP. its like saying nestea would be favored if he faced against life using your logic. Nestea is a 3time champion, sure, but is he anywhere near Life's skill? absolutely NOT. You are overrating Life from one tournament appearance, and I watched his play, it was not exactly revolutionary, in fact it was more down to TaeJa choking than Life winning. I really hate when people say things like 'Rain is the most skills Protoss' or 'Life is the most skilled Zerg' or 'TaeJa is the most skilled Terran player', it's total non-sense; regardless of their skill levels, if they don't win it doesn't matter. then you obviosly have the wrong mindset, or you are just trolling, or most likely, your just a blind MVP fanboy if you think taejas multiple wins across the world wasnt enough to make him the best terran in the world. or Rains ultimate demolishing of taeja, making to the ro4 GSL and finals of OSL wasnt enough to make him the best toss. Why does TaeJa's 'multiple wins' suddenly make him the best Terran when Mvp has 4 times as many titles? Either way you just come off as another hype-train fankiddy, and it's kinda sad to see. Also, a few deep runs does not make Rain the best Protoss, seriously what kind of glue are you huffing? I don't honestly care about current form, I care about consistency, and that's where the safe bets are always placed. TL;DR: Jumping on and off hype trains will make you one disappointed fankid.
let me translate what youre saying:
nestea is a 3 time champ, hes better than all the other zergs like life, leenock and curious cause they dont have championship titles, I DONT CARE IF HES CODE B HES STILL BETTER CAUSE OF HIS PAST CHAMPIONSHIP TROPHIES!!
if you dont think that attitude of judging a player from distant past is retarded, then GL at predictions bro
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On October 12 2012 23:15 X3GoldDot wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 22:47 InoyouS2 wrote:On October 12 2012 21:28 X3GoldDot wrote:On October 12 2012 21:12 InoyouS2 wrote:On October 12 2012 18:46 X3GoldDot wrote:On October 12 2012 17:46 Entirety wrote:On October 12 2012 04:19 Corrosive wrote:On October 11 2012 00:39 partysnatcher wrote:
MVP is in my opinion one of the most overrated stars out there. Like Polt, his skillset simply doesn't draw me in as a fan, and most people who are a fan of him, usually uses his "amount of wins" as argument for why.
I personally hope he gets crushed in the finals. overrated ---> fans use his amount of wins for why he's good what the fuck am i reading 4 time gsl winner 6 time gsl finalist best performing sc2 player ever so far this has to be a troll i know that post is old but i had to reply to it Yes, that is completely ridiculous. Given how much Mvp has won, here is the 'acceptable' level of hype: Mvp is the best StarCraft 2 player seen thus far, he will win this GSL handily. It is 'acceptable' level because he deserves that much hype for all of his accomplishments. Now, on the other hand... Overrating: Mvp will never lose ever again and he will become the 1st SC2 bonjwa after winning every tournament for 10 years (it's overrating because Mvp doesn't deserve that much...) Underrating: Mvp will lose to Life. (Based on accomplishments alone, a 0 GSL winner vs. a 5 GSL finalist... saying that the 5 GSL finalist won't win is called underrating) That's right, predicting Life over Mvp is actually underrating Mvp based on achievements. you dont rate a match based on how good the players were, you rate the match by how good they are now. And life is favored in that regard, thus he is favored in the match, it wont be underrating MVP. its like saying nestea would be favored if he faced against life using your logic. Nestea is a 3time champion, sure, but is he anywhere near Life's skill? absolutely NOT. You are overrating Life from one tournament appearance, and I watched his play, it was not exactly revolutionary, in fact it was more down to TaeJa choking than Life winning. I really hate when people say things like 'Rain is the most skills Protoss' or 'Life is the most skilled Zerg' or 'TaeJa is the most skilled Terran player', it's total non-sense; regardless of their skill levels, if they don't win it doesn't matter. then you obviosly have the wrong mindset, or you are just trolling, or most likely, your just a blind MVP fanboy if you think taejas multiple wins across the world wasnt enough to make him the best terran in the world. or Rains ultimate demolishing of taeja, making to the ro4 GSL and finals of OSL wasnt enough to make him the best toss. Why does TaeJa's 'multiple wins' suddenly make him the best Terran when Mvp has 4 times as many titles? Either way you just come off as another hype-train fankiddy, and it's kinda sad to see. Also, a few deep runs does not make Rain the best Protoss, seriously what kind of glue are you huffing? I don't honestly care about current form, I care about consistency, and that's where the safe bets are always placed. TL;DR: Jumping on and off hype trains will make you one disappointed fankid. let me translate what youre saying: nestea is a 3 time champ, hes better than all the other zergs like life, leenock and curious cause they dont have championship titles, I DONT CARE IF HES CODE B HES STILL BETTER CAUSE OF HIS PAST CHAMPIONSHIP TROPHIES!! if you dont think that attitude of judging a player from distant past is retarded, then GL at predictions bro
But somehow his "multiple wins" in the PAST make him better than MVP NOW despite MVP being in finals and Taeja not. You lose to your own logic too because MVP was better in total accomplishments and in his current status now.
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On October 12 2012 23:32 Luepert wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 23:15 X3GoldDot wrote:On October 12 2012 22:47 InoyouS2 wrote:On October 12 2012 21:28 X3GoldDot wrote:On October 12 2012 21:12 InoyouS2 wrote:On October 12 2012 18:46 X3GoldDot wrote:On October 12 2012 17:46 Entirety wrote:On October 12 2012 04:19 Corrosive wrote:On October 11 2012 00:39 partysnatcher wrote:
MVP is in my opinion one of the most overrated stars out there. Like Polt, his skillset simply doesn't draw me in as a fan, and most people who are a fan of him, usually uses his "amount of wins" as argument for why.
I personally hope he gets crushed in the finals. overrated ---> fans use his amount of wins for why he's good what the fuck am i reading 4 time gsl winner 6 time gsl finalist best performing sc2 player ever so far this has to be a troll i know that post is old but i had to reply to it Yes, that is completely ridiculous. Given how much Mvp has won, here is the 'acceptable' level of hype: Mvp is the best StarCraft 2 player seen thus far, he will win this GSL handily. It is 'acceptable' level because he deserves that much hype for all of his accomplishments. Now, on the other hand... Overrating: Mvp will never lose ever again and he will become the 1st SC2 bonjwa after winning every tournament for 10 years (it's overrating because Mvp doesn't deserve that much...) Underrating: Mvp will lose to Life. (Based on accomplishments alone, a 0 GSL winner vs. a 5 GSL finalist... saying that the 5 GSL finalist won't win is called underrating) That's right, predicting Life over Mvp is actually underrating Mvp based on achievements. you dont rate a match based on how good the players were, you rate the match by how good they are now. And life is favored in that regard, thus he is favored in the match, it wont be underrating MVP. its like saying nestea would be favored if he faced against life using your logic. Nestea is a 3time champion, sure, but is he anywhere near Life's skill? absolutely NOT. You are overrating Life from one tournament appearance, and I watched his play, it was not exactly revolutionary, in fact it was more down to TaeJa choking than Life winning. I really hate when people say things like 'Rain is the most skills Protoss' or 'Life is the most skilled Zerg' or 'TaeJa is the most skilled Terran player', it's total non-sense; regardless of their skill levels, if they don't win it doesn't matter. then you obviosly have the wrong mindset, or you are just trolling, or most likely, your just a blind MVP fanboy if you think taejas multiple wins across the world wasnt enough to make him the best terran in the world. or Rains ultimate demolishing of taeja, making to the ro4 GSL and finals of OSL wasnt enough to make him the best toss. Why does TaeJa's 'multiple wins' suddenly make him the best Terran when Mvp has 4 times as many titles? Either way you just come off as another hype-train fankiddy, and it's kinda sad to see. Also, a few deep runs does not make Rain the best Protoss, seriously what kind of glue are you huffing? I don't honestly care about current form, I care about consistency, and that's where the safe bets are always placed. TL;DR: Jumping on and off hype trains will make you one disappointed fankid. let me translate what youre saying: nestea is a 3 time champ, hes better than all the other zergs like life, leenock and curious cause they dont have championship titles, I DONT CARE IF HES CODE B HES STILL BETTER CAUSE OF HIS PAST CHAMPIONSHIP TROPHIES!! if you dont think that attitude of judging a player from distant past is retarded, then GL at predictions bro But somehow his "multiple wins" in the PAST make him better than MVP NOW despite MVP being in finals and Taeja not. You lose to your own logic too because MVP was better in total accomplishments and in his current status now.
Didn't Taeja destroy MVP in this GSL... in the round of 32?
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On October 12 2012 23:36 theonemav wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 23:32 Luepert wrote:On October 12 2012 23:15 X3GoldDot wrote:On October 12 2012 22:47 InoyouS2 wrote:On October 12 2012 21:28 X3GoldDot wrote:On October 12 2012 21:12 InoyouS2 wrote:On October 12 2012 18:46 X3GoldDot wrote:On October 12 2012 17:46 Entirety wrote:On October 12 2012 04:19 Corrosive wrote:On October 11 2012 00:39 partysnatcher wrote:
MVP is in my opinion one of the most overrated stars out there. Like Polt, his skillset simply doesn't draw me in as a fan, and most people who are a fan of him, usually uses his "amount of wins" as argument for why.
I personally hope he gets crushed in the finals. overrated ---> fans use his amount of wins for why he's good what the fuck am i reading 4 time gsl winner 6 time gsl finalist best performing sc2 player ever so far this has to be a troll i know that post is old but i had to reply to it Yes, that is completely ridiculous. Given how much Mvp has won, here is the 'acceptable' level of hype: Mvp is the best StarCraft 2 player seen thus far, he will win this GSL handily. It is 'acceptable' level because he deserves that much hype for all of his accomplishments. Now, on the other hand... Overrating: Mvp will never lose ever again and he will become the 1st SC2 bonjwa after winning every tournament for 10 years (it's overrating because Mvp doesn't deserve that much...) Underrating: Mvp will lose to Life. (Based on accomplishments alone, a 0 GSL winner vs. a 5 GSL finalist... saying that the 5 GSL finalist won't win is called underrating) That's right, predicting Life over Mvp is actually underrating Mvp based on achievements. you dont rate a match based on how good the players were, you rate the match by how good they are now. And life is favored in that regard, thus he is favored in the match, it wont be underrating MVP. its like saying nestea would be favored if he faced against life using your logic. Nestea is a 3time champion, sure, but is he anywhere near Life's skill? absolutely NOT. You are overrating Life from one tournament appearance, and I watched his play, it was not exactly revolutionary, in fact it was more down to TaeJa choking than Life winning. I really hate when people say things like 'Rain is the most skills Protoss' or 'Life is the most skilled Zerg' or 'TaeJa is the most skilled Terran player', it's total non-sense; regardless of their skill levels, if they don't win it doesn't matter. then you obviosly have the wrong mindset, or you are just trolling, or most likely, your just a blind MVP fanboy if you think taejas multiple wins across the world wasnt enough to make him the best terran in the world. or Rains ultimate demolishing of taeja, making to the ro4 GSL and finals of OSL wasnt enough to make him the best toss. Why does TaeJa's 'multiple wins' suddenly make him the best Terran when Mvp has 4 times as many titles? Either way you just come off as another hype-train fankiddy, and it's kinda sad to see. Also, a few deep runs does not make Rain the best Protoss, seriously what kind of glue are you huffing? I don't honestly care about current form, I care about consistency, and that's where the safe bets are always placed. TL;DR: Jumping on and off hype trains will make you one disappointed fankid. let me translate what youre saying: nestea is a 3 time champ, hes better than all the other zergs like life, leenock and curious cause they dont have championship titles, I DONT CARE IF HES CODE B HES STILL BETTER CAUSE OF HIS PAST CHAMPIONSHIP TROPHIES!! if you dont think that attitude of judging a player from distant past is retarded, then GL at predictions bro But somehow his "multiple wins" in the PAST make him better than MVP NOW despite MVP being in finals and Taeja not. You lose to your own logic too because MVP was better in total accomplishments and in his current status now. Didn't Taeja destroy MVP in this GSL... in the round of 32?
yes. he did. but of course taeja also lost to rain 2-0. Anyway i want this discussion to end, becuz fanboys cant be reasoned with
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MVP vs Life... It's an autowin for MVP imo, 'cause you know, he has 4 gsl wins man. I mean come on, life has no chance, at all. 4 gsl titles.
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On October 12 2012 23:15 X3GoldDot wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 22:47 InoyouS2 wrote:On October 12 2012 21:28 X3GoldDot wrote:On October 12 2012 21:12 InoyouS2 wrote:On October 12 2012 18:46 X3GoldDot wrote:On October 12 2012 17:46 Entirety wrote:On October 12 2012 04:19 Corrosive wrote:On October 11 2012 00:39 partysnatcher wrote:
MVP is in my opinion one of the most overrated stars out there. Like Polt, his skillset simply doesn't draw me in as a fan, and most people who are a fan of him, usually uses his "amount of wins" as argument for why.
I personally hope he gets crushed in the finals. overrated ---> fans use his amount of wins for why he's good what the fuck am i reading 4 time gsl winner 6 time gsl finalist best performing sc2 player ever so far this has to be a troll i know that post is old but i had to reply to it Yes, that is completely ridiculous. Given how much Mvp has won, here is the 'acceptable' level of hype: Mvp is the best StarCraft 2 player seen thus far, he will win this GSL handily. It is 'acceptable' level because he deserves that much hype for all of his accomplishments. Now, on the other hand... Overrating: Mvp will never lose ever again and he will become the 1st SC2 bonjwa after winning every tournament for 10 years (it's overrating because Mvp doesn't deserve that much...) Underrating: Mvp will lose to Life. (Based on accomplishments alone, a 0 GSL winner vs. a 5 GSL finalist... saying that the 5 GSL finalist won't win is called underrating) That's right, predicting Life over Mvp is actually underrating Mvp based on achievements. you dont rate a match based on how good the players were, you rate the match by how good they are now. And life is favored in that regard, thus he is favored in the match, it wont be underrating MVP. its like saying nestea would be favored if he faced against life using your logic. Nestea is a 3time champion, sure, but is he anywhere near Life's skill? absolutely NOT. You are overrating Life from one tournament appearance, and I watched his play, it was not exactly revolutionary, in fact it was more down to TaeJa choking than Life winning. I really hate when people say things like 'Rain is the most skills Protoss' or 'Life is the most skilled Zerg' or 'TaeJa is the most skilled Terran player', it's total non-sense; regardless of their skill levels, if they don't win it doesn't matter. then you obviosly have the wrong mindset, or you are just trolling, or most likely, your just a blind MVP fanboy if you think taejas multiple wins across the world wasnt enough to make him the best terran in the world. or Rains ultimate demolishing of taeja, making to the ro4 GSL and finals of OSL wasnt enough to make him the best toss. Why does TaeJa's 'multiple wins' suddenly make him the best Terran when Mvp has 4 times as many titles? Either way you just come off as another hype-train fankiddy, and it's kinda sad to see. Also, a few deep runs does not make Rain the best Protoss, seriously what kind of glue are you huffing? I don't honestly care about current form, I care about consistency, and that's where the safe bets are always placed. TL;DR: Jumping on and off hype trains will make you one disappointed fankid. let me translate what youre saying: nestea is a 3 time champ, hes better than all the other zergs like life, leenock and curious cause they dont have championship titles, I DONT CARE IF HES CODE B HES STILL BETTER CAUSE OF HIS PAST CHAMPIONSHIP TROPHIES!! if you dont think that attitude of judging a player from distant past is retarded, then GL at predictions bro lol I was just writing the same thing regarding the comparison.
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On October 12 2012 23:38 X3GoldDot wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 23:36 theonemav wrote:On October 12 2012 23:32 Luepert wrote:On October 12 2012 23:15 X3GoldDot wrote:On October 12 2012 22:47 InoyouS2 wrote:On October 12 2012 21:28 X3GoldDot wrote:On October 12 2012 21:12 InoyouS2 wrote:On October 12 2012 18:46 X3GoldDot wrote:On October 12 2012 17:46 Entirety wrote:On October 12 2012 04:19 Corrosive wrote:
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overrated ---> fans use his amount of wins for why he's good
what the fuck am i reading
4 time gsl winner 6 time gsl finalist
best performing sc2 player ever so far
this has to be a troll
i know that post is old but i had to reply to it Yes, that is completely ridiculous. Given how much Mvp has won, here is the 'acceptable' level of hype: Mvp is the best StarCraft 2 player seen thus far, he will win this GSL handily. It is 'acceptable' level because he deserves that much hype for all of his accomplishments. Now, on the other hand... Overrating: Mvp will never lose ever again and he will become the 1st SC2 bonjwa after winning every tournament for 10 years (it's overrating because Mvp doesn't deserve that much...) Underrating: Mvp will lose to Life. (Based on accomplishments alone, a 0 GSL winner vs. a 5 GSL finalist... saying that the 5 GSL finalist won't win is called underrating) That's right, predicting Life over Mvp is actually underrating Mvp based on achievements. you dont rate a match based on how good the players were, you rate the match by how good they are now. And life is favored in that regard, thus he is favored in the match, it wont be underrating MVP. its like saying nestea would be favored if he faced against life using your logic. Nestea is a 3time champion, sure, but is he anywhere near Life's skill? absolutely NOT. You are overrating Life from one tournament appearance, and I watched his play, it was not exactly revolutionary, in fact it was more down to TaeJa choking than Life winning. I really hate when people say things like 'Rain is the most skills Protoss' or 'Life is the most skilled Zerg' or 'TaeJa is the most skilled Terran player', it's total non-sense; regardless of their skill levels, if they don't win it doesn't matter. then you obviosly have the wrong mindset, or you are just trolling, or most likely, your just a blind MVP fanboy if you think taejas multiple wins across the world wasnt enough to make him the best terran in the world. or Rains ultimate demolishing of taeja, making to the ro4 GSL and finals of OSL wasnt enough to make him the best toss. Why does TaeJa's 'multiple wins' suddenly make him the best Terran when Mvp has 4 times as many titles? Either way you just come off as another hype-train fankiddy, and it's kinda sad to see. Also, a few deep runs does not make Rain the best Protoss, seriously what kind of glue are you huffing? I don't honestly care about current form, I care about consistency, and that's where the safe bets are always placed. TL;DR: Jumping on and off hype trains will make you one disappointed fankid. let me translate what youre saying: nestea is a 3 time champ, hes better than all the other zergs like life, leenock and curious cause they dont have championship titles, I DONT CARE IF HES CODE B HES STILL BETTER CAUSE OF HIS PAST CHAMPIONSHIP TROPHIES!! if you dont think that attitude of judging a player from distant past is retarded, then GL at predictions bro But somehow his "multiple wins" in the PAST make him better than MVP NOW despite MVP being in finals and Taeja not. You lose to your own logic too because MVP was better in total accomplishments and in his current status now. Didn't Taeja destroy MVP in this GSL... in the round of 32? yes. he did. but of course taeja also lost to rain 2-0. Anyway i want this discussion to end, becuz fanboys cant be reasoned with
Well do be fair MVP would have lost if that series was a best of 3 right? 2-1 Rain, MVP is great in those longer series where his cheese is more effective.
But yes I get it Taeja is only better than MVP when they play each other  ...
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On October 12 2012 23:40 theonemav wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 23:38 X3GoldDot wrote:On October 12 2012 23:36 theonemav wrote:On October 12 2012 23:32 Luepert wrote:On October 12 2012 23:15 X3GoldDot wrote:On October 12 2012 22:47 InoyouS2 wrote:On October 12 2012 21:28 X3GoldDot wrote:On October 12 2012 21:12 InoyouS2 wrote:On October 12 2012 18:46 X3GoldDot wrote:On October 12 2012 17:46 Entirety wrote:
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Yes, that is completely ridiculous. Given how much Mvp has won, here is the 'acceptable' level of hype:
Mvp is the best StarCraft 2 player seen thus far, he will win this GSL handily.
It is 'acceptable' level because he deserves that much hype for all of his accomplishments. Now, on the other hand...
Overrating: Mvp will never lose ever again and he will become the 1st SC2 bonjwa after winning every tournament for 10 years (it's overrating because Mvp doesn't deserve that much...)
Underrating: Mvp will lose to Life. (Based on accomplishments alone, a 0 GSL winner vs. a 5 GSL finalist... saying that the 5 GSL finalist won't win is called underrating)
That's right, predicting Life over Mvp is actually underrating Mvp based on achievements. you dont rate a match based on how good the players were, you rate the match by how good they are now. And life is favored in that regard, thus he is favored in the match, it wont be underrating MVP. its like saying nestea would be favored if he faced against life using your logic. Nestea is a 3time champion, sure, but is he anywhere near Life's skill? absolutely NOT. You are overrating Life from one tournament appearance, and I watched his play, it was not exactly revolutionary, in fact it was more down to TaeJa choking than Life winning. I really hate when people say things like 'Rain is the most skills Protoss' or 'Life is the most skilled Zerg' or 'TaeJa is the most skilled Terran player', it's total non-sense; regardless of their skill levels, if they don't win it doesn't matter. then you obviosly have the wrong mindset, or you are just trolling, or most likely, your just a blind MVP fanboy if you think taejas multiple wins across the world wasnt enough to make him the best terran in the world. or Rains ultimate demolishing of taeja, making to the ro4 GSL and finals of OSL wasnt enough to make him the best toss. Why does TaeJa's 'multiple wins' suddenly make him the best Terran when Mvp has 4 times as many titles? Either way you just come off as another hype-train fankiddy, and it's kinda sad to see. Also, a few deep runs does not make Rain the best Protoss, seriously what kind of glue are you huffing? I don't honestly care about current form, I care about consistency, and that's where the safe bets are always placed. TL;DR: Jumping on and off hype trains will make you one disappointed fankid. let me translate what youre saying: nestea is a 3 time champ, hes better than all the other zergs like life, leenock and curious cause they dont have championship titles, I DONT CARE IF HES CODE B HES STILL BETTER CAUSE OF HIS PAST CHAMPIONSHIP TROPHIES!! if you dont think that attitude of judging a player from distant past is retarded, then GL at predictions bro But somehow his "multiple wins" in the PAST make him better than MVP NOW despite MVP being in finals and Taeja not. You lose to your own logic too because MVP was better in total accomplishments and in his current status now. Didn't Taeja destroy MVP in this GSL... in the round of 32? yes. he did. but of course taeja also lost to rain 2-0. Anyway i want this discussion to end, becuz fanboys cant be reasoned with Well do be fair MVP would have lost if that series was a best of 3 right? 2-1 Rain, MVP is great in those longer series where his cheese is more effective. But yes I get it Taeja is only better than MVP when they play each other ...
Nice passive aggressiveness, kid
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On October 12 2012 23:48 mambar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 23:40 theonemav wrote:On October 12 2012 23:38 X3GoldDot wrote:On October 12 2012 23:36 theonemav wrote:On October 12 2012 23:32 Luepert wrote:On October 12 2012 23:15 X3GoldDot wrote:On October 12 2012 22:47 InoyouS2 wrote:On October 12 2012 21:28 X3GoldDot wrote:On October 12 2012 21:12 InoyouS2 wrote:On October 12 2012 18:46 X3GoldDot wrote:
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you dont rate a match based on how good the players were, you rate the match by how good they are now. And life is favored in that regard, thus he is favored in the match, it wont be underrating MVP. its like saying nestea would be favored if he faced against life using your logic. Nestea is a 3time champion, sure, but is he anywhere near Life's skill? absolutely NOT.
You are overrating Life from one tournament appearance, and I watched his play, it was not exactly revolutionary, in fact it was more down to TaeJa choking than Life winning. I really hate when people say things like 'Rain is the most skills Protoss' or 'Life is the most skilled Zerg' or 'TaeJa is the most skilled Terran player', it's total non-sense; regardless of their skill levels, if they don't win it doesn't matter. then you obviosly have the wrong mindset, or you are just trolling, or most likely, your just a blind MVP fanboy if you think taejas multiple wins across the world wasnt enough to make him the best terran in the world. or Rains ultimate demolishing of taeja, making to the ro4 GSL and finals of OSL wasnt enough to make him the best toss. Why does TaeJa's 'multiple wins' suddenly make him the best Terran when Mvp has 4 times as many titles? Either way you just come off as another hype-train fankiddy, and it's kinda sad to see. Also, a few deep runs does not make Rain the best Protoss, seriously what kind of glue are you huffing? I don't honestly care about current form, I care about consistency, and that's where the safe bets are always placed. TL;DR: Jumping on and off hype trains will make you one disappointed fankid. let me translate what youre saying: nestea is a 3 time champ, hes better than all the other zergs like life, leenock and curious cause they dont have championship titles, I DONT CARE IF HES CODE B HES STILL BETTER CAUSE OF HIS PAST CHAMPIONSHIP TROPHIES!! if you dont think that attitude of judging a player from distant past is retarded, then GL at predictions bro But somehow his "multiple wins" in the PAST make him better than MVP NOW despite MVP being in finals and Taeja not. You lose to your own logic too because MVP was better in total accomplishments and in his current status now. Didn't Taeja destroy MVP in this GSL... in the round of 32? yes. he did. but of course taeja also lost to rain 2-0. Anyway i want this discussion to end, becuz fanboys cant be reasoned with Well do be fair MVP would have lost if that series was a best of 3 right? 2-1 Rain, MVP is great in those longer series where his cheese is more effective. But yes I get it Taeja is only better than MVP when they play each other ... Nice passive aggressiveness, kid
Kid? lol... if you only knew.
My favorite MVP moment was when he picked GuMiho in the round of 16 in season one this year and got bopped 4-1 by landed viking harass.
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On October 12 2012 23:55 theonemav wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 23:48 mambar wrote:On October 12 2012 23:40 theonemav wrote:On October 12 2012 23:38 X3GoldDot wrote:On October 12 2012 23:36 theonemav wrote:On October 12 2012 23:32 Luepert wrote:On October 12 2012 23:15 X3GoldDot wrote:On October 12 2012 22:47 InoyouS2 wrote:On October 12 2012 21:28 X3GoldDot wrote:On October 12 2012 21:12 InoyouS2 wrote:
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You are overrating Life from one tournament appearance, and I watched his play, it was not exactly revolutionary, in fact it was more down to TaeJa choking than Life winning.
I really hate when people say things like 'Rain is the most skills Protoss' or 'Life is the most skilled Zerg' or 'TaeJa is the most skilled Terran player', it's total non-sense; regardless of their skill levels, if they don't win it doesn't matter. then you obviosly have the wrong mindset, or you are just trolling, or most likely, your just a blind MVP fanboy if you think taejas multiple wins across the world wasnt enough to make him the best terran in the world. or Rains ultimate demolishing of taeja, making to the ro4 GSL and finals of OSL wasnt enough to make him the best toss. Why does TaeJa's 'multiple wins' suddenly make him the best Terran when Mvp has 4 times as many titles? Either way you just come off as another hype-train fankiddy, and it's kinda sad to see. Also, a few deep runs does not make Rain the best Protoss, seriously what kind of glue are you huffing? I don't honestly care about current form, I care about consistency, and that's where the safe bets are always placed. TL;DR: Jumping on and off hype trains will make you one disappointed fankid. let me translate what youre saying: nestea is a 3 time champ, hes better than all the other zergs like life, leenock and curious cause they dont have championship titles, I DONT CARE IF HES CODE B HES STILL BETTER CAUSE OF HIS PAST CHAMPIONSHIP TROPHIES!! if you dont think that attitude of judging a player from distant past is retarded, then GL at predictions bro But somehow his "multiple wins" in the PAST make him better than MVP NOW despite MVP being in finals and Taeja not. You lose to your own logic too because MVP was better in total accomplishments and in his current status now. Didn't Taeja destroy MVP in this GSL... in the round of 32? yes. he did. but of course taeja also lost to rain 2-0. Anyway i want this discussion to end, becuz fanboys cant be reasoned with Well do be fair MVP would have lost if that series was a best of 3 right? 2-1 Rain, MVP is great in those longer series where his cheese is more effective. But yes I get it Taeja is only better than MVP when they play each other ... Nice passive aggressiveness, kid Kid? lol... if you only knew. My favorite MVP moment was when he picked GuMiho in the round of 16 in season one this year and got bopped 4-1 by landed viking harass.
then he won the next gsl, he beat ryung puzzle leenock naniwa parting and squirtle
the "achievements from the past don't matter" argument is not good, even if you use it on MVP he's a recent GSL winner, that is worth more than Taeja's foreigner tournament wins
also their mirror match up results are flawed as an argument, Elfi could snipe the best protoss in korea and then lose horribly to a b-teamer terran.
I'm not saying MVP is clearly better, I'm saying none of the two is clearly better than the other, probably their strengths are different, and there is no objective way to determine who is better
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On October 13 2012 00:11 transcendent one wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 23:55 theonemav wrote:On October 12 2012 23:48 mambar wrote:On October 12 2012 23:40 theonemav wrote:On October 12 2012 23:38 X3GoldDot wrote:On October 12 2012 23:36 theonemav wrote:On October 12 2012 23:32 Luepert wrote:On October 12 2012 23:15 X3GoldDot wrote:On October 12 2012 22:47 InoyouS2 wrote:On October 12 2012 21:28 X3GoldDot wrote:
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then you obviosly have the wrong mindset, or you are just trolling, or most likely, your just a blind MVP fanboy if you think taejas multiple wins across the world wasnt enough to make him the best terran in the world. or Rains ultimate demolishing of taeja, making to the ro4 GSL and finals of OSL wasnt enough to make him the best toss. Why does TaeJa's 'multiple wins' suddenly make him the best Terran when Mvp has 4 times as many titles? Either way you just come off as another hype-train fankiddy, and it's kinda sad to see. Also, a few deep runs does not make Rain the best Protoss, seriously what kind of glue are you huffing? I don't honestly care about current form, I care about consistency, and that's where the safe bets are always placed. TL;DR: Jumping on and off hype trains will make you one disappointed fankid. let me translate what youre saying: nestea is a 3 time champ, hes better than all the other zergs like life, leenock and curious cause they dont have championship titles, I DONT CARE IF HES CODE B HES STILL BETTER CAUSE OF HIS PAST CHAMPIONSHIP TROPHIES!! if you dont think that attitude of judging a player from distant past is retarded, then GL at predictions bro But somehow his "multiple wins" in the PAST make him better than MVP NOW despite MVP being in finals and Taeja not. You lose to your own logic too because MVP was better in total accomplishments and in his current status now. Didn't Taeja destroy MVP in this GSL... in the round of 32? yes. he did. but of course taeja also lost to rain 2-0. Anyway i want this discussion to end, becuz fanboys cant be reasoned with Well do be fair MVP would have lost if that series was a best of 3 right? 2-1 Rain, MVP is great in those longer series where his cheese is more effective. But yes I get it Taeja is only better than MVP when they play each other ... Nice passive aggressiveness, kid Kid? lol... if you only knew. My favorite MVP moment was when he picked GuMiho in the round of 16 in season one this year and got bopped 4-1 by landed viking harass. then he won the next gsl, he beat ryung puzzle leenock naniwa parting and squirtle the "achievements from the past don't matter" argument is not good, even if you use it on MVP he's a recent GSL winner, that is worth more than Taeja's foreigner tournament wins also their mirror match up results are flawed as an argument, Elfi could snipe the best protoss in korea and then lose horribly to a b-teamer. I'm not saying MVP is clearly better, I'm saying none of the two is clearly better than the other, probably their strengths are different, and there is no objective way to determine who is better
And Taeja beat him the season after he won (Round of 16 season 3) and then beat his ass again in season 4 round of 32.
He should really thank Life for getting Taeja out before the finals... All though I believe Life will easily win 4-1.
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On October 13 2012 00:16 theonemav wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 00:11 transcendent one wrote:On October 12 2012 23:55 theonemav wrote:On October 12 2012 23:48 mambar wrote:On October 12 2012 23:40 theonemav wrote:On October 12 2012 23:38 X3GoldDot wrote:On October 12 2012 23:36 theonemav wrote:On October 12 2012 23:32 Luepert wrote:On October 12 2012 23:15 X3GoldDot wrote:On October 12 2012 22:47 InoyouS2 wrote:
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Why does TaeJa's 'multiple wins' suddenly make him the best Terran when Mvp has 4 times as many titles?
Either way you just come off as another hype-train fankiddy, and it's kinda sad to see.
Also, a few deep runs does not make Rain the best Protoss, seriously what kind of glue are you huffing? I don't honestly care about current form, I care about consistency, and that's where the safe bets are always placed. TL;DR: Jumping on and off hype trains will make you one disappointed fankid. let me translate what youre saying: nestea is a 3 time champ, hes better than all the other zergs like life, leenock and curious cause they dont have championship titles, I DONT CARE IF HES CODE B HES STILL BETTER CAUSE OF HIS PAST CHAMPIONSHIP TROPHIES!! if you dont think that attitude of judging a player from distant past is retarded, then GL at predictions bro But somehow his "multiple wins" in the PAST make him better than MVP NOW despite MVP being in finals and Taeja not. You lose to your own logic too because MVP was better in total accomplishments and in his current status now. Didn't Taeja destroy MVP in this GSL... in the round of 32? yes. he did. but of course taeja also lost to rain 2-0. Anyway i want this discussion to end, becuz fanboys cant be reasoned with Well do be fair MVP would have lost if that series was a best of 3 right? 2-1 Rain, MVP is great in those longer series where his cheese is more effective. But yes I get it Taeja is only better than MVP when they play each other ... Nice passive aggressiveness, kid Kid? lol... if you only knew. My favorite MVP moment was when he picked GuMiho in the round of 16 in season one this year and got bopped 4-1 by landed viking harass. then he won the next gsl, he beat ryung puzzle leenock naniwa parting and squirtle the "achievements from the past don't matter" argument is not good, even if you use it on MVP he's a recent GSL winner, that is worth more than Taeja's foreigner tournament wins also their mirror match up results are flawed as an argument, Elfi could snipe the best protoss in korea and then lose horribly to a b-teamer. I'm not saying MVP is clearly better, I'm saying none of the two is clearly better than the other, probably their strengths are different, and there is no objective way to determine who is better And Taeja beat him the season after he won (Round of 16 season 3) and then beat his ass again in season 4 round of 32.
oh yeah the good old Stephano beat Curious, Cytoplasm beat Stephano, Delphi beat Cytoplasm argument that proves that Delphi is better than Curious. good one!
i get it that you're a mvp anti-fan but you're just making yourself seem stupid if you keep repeating this lol
btw around the time MVP won the gsl taeja lost to sase, socke, huk
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On October 13 2012 00:21 transcendent one wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 00:16 theonemav wrote:On October 13 2012 00:11 transcendent one wrote:On October 12 2012 23:55 theonemav wrote:On October 12 2012 23:48 mambar wrote:On October 12 2012 23:40 theonemav wrote:On October 12 2012 23:38 X3GoldDot wrote:On October 12 2012 23:36 theonemav wrote:On October 12 2012 23:32 Luepert wrote:On October 12 2012 23:15 X3GoldDot wrote:
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let me translate what youre saying:
nestea is a 3 time champ, hes better than all the other zergs like life, leenock and curious cause they dont have championship titles, I DONT CARE IF HES CODE B HES STILL BETTER CAUSE OF HIS PAST CHAMPIONSHIP TROPHIES!!
if you dont think that attitude of judging a player from distant past is retarded, then GL at predictions bro
But somehow his "multiple wins" in the PAST make him better than MVP NOW despite MVP being in finals and Taeja not. You lose to your own logic too because MVP was better in total accomplishments and in his current status now. Didn't Taeja destroy MVP in this GSL... in the round of 32? yes. he did. but of course taeja also lost to rain 2-0. Anyway i want this discussion to end, becuz fanboys cant be reasoned with Well do be fair MVP would have lost if that series was a best of 3 right? 2-1 Rain, MVP is great in those longer series where his cheese is more effective. But yes I get it Taeja is only better than MVP when they play each other ... Nice passive aggressiveness, kid Kid? lol... if you only knew. My favorite MVP moment was when he picked GuMiho in the round of 16 in season one this year and got bopped 4-1 by landed viking harass. then he won the next gsl, he beat ryung puzzle leenock naniwa parting and squirtle the "achievements from the past don't matter" argument is not good, even if you use it on MVP he's a recent GSL winner, that is worth more than Taeja's foreigner tournament wins also their mirror match up results are flawed as an argument, Elfi could snipe the best protoss in korea and then lose horribly to a b-teamer. I'm not saying MVP is clearly better, I'm saying none of the two is clearly better than the other, probably their strengths are different, and there is no objective way to determine who is better And Taeja beat him the season after he won (Round of 16 season 3) and then beat his ass again in season 4 round of 32. oh yeah the good old Stephano beat Curious, Cytoplasm beat Stephano, Delphi beat Cytoplasm argument that proves that Delphi is better than Curious. good one! i get it that you're a mvp anti-fan but you're just making yourself seem stupid if you keep repeating this lol btw around the time MVP won the gsl taeja lost to sase, socke, huk
No its just the good ole Taeja owns MVP rant...
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On October 13 2012 00:23 theonemav wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 00:21 transcendent one wrote:On October 13 2012 00:16 theonemav wrote:On October 13 2012 00:11 transcendent one wrote:On October 12 2012 23:55 theonemav wrote:On October 12 2012 23:48 mambar wrote:On October 12 2012 23:40 theonemav wrote:On October 12 2012 23:38 X3GoldDot wrote:On October 12 2012 23:36 theonemav wrote:On October 12 2012 23:32 Luepert wrote:
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But somehow his "multiple wins" in the PAST make him better than MVP NOW despite MVP being in finals and Taeja not. You lose to your own logic too because MVP was better in total accomplishments and in his current status now.
Didn't Taeja destroy MVP in this GSL... in the round of 32? yes. he did. but of course taeja also lost to rain 2-0. Anyway i want this discussion to end, becuz fanboys cant be reasoned with Well do be fair MVP would have lost if that series was a best of 3 right? 2-1 Rain, MVP is great in those longer series where his cheese is more effective. But yes I get it Taeja is only better than MVP when they play each other ... Nice passive aggressiveness, kid Kid? lol... if you only knew. My favorite MVP moment was when he picked GuMiho in the round of 16 in season one this year and got bopped 4-1 by landed viking harass. then he won the next gsl, he beat ryung puzzle leenock naniwa parting and squirtle the "achievements from the past don't matter" argument is not good, even if you use it on MVP he's a recent GSL winner, that is worth more than Taeja's foreigner tournament wins also their mirror match up results are flawed as an argument, Elfi could snipe the best protoss in korea and then lose horribly to a b-teamer. I'm not saying MVP is clearly better, I'm saying none of the two is clearly better than the other, probably their strengths are different, and there is no objective way to determine who is better And Taeja beat him the season after he won (Round of 16 season 3) and then beat his ass again in season 4 round of 32. oh yeah the good old Stephano beat Curious, Cytoplasm beat Stephano, Delphi beat Cytoplasm argument that proves that Delphi is better than Curious. good one! i get it that you're a mvp anti-fan but you're just making yourself seem stupid if you keep repeating this lol btw around the time MVP won the gsl taeja lost to sase, socke, huk No its just the good ole Taeja owns MVP rant...
they're 4-3 all together, not that hard of an ownage
i seem to remember when MKP owned Taeja 5-1. so mkp>taeja>mvp>mkp
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On October 13 2012 00:33 transcendent one wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 00:23 theonemav wrote:On October 13 2012 00:21 transcendent one wrote:On October 13 2012 00:16 theonemav wrote:On October 13 2012 00:11 transcendent one wrote:On October 12 2012 23:55 theonemav wrote:On October 12 2012 23:48 mambar wrote:On October 12 2012 23:40 theonemav wrote:On October 12 2012 23:38 X3GoldDot wrote:On October 12 2012 23:36 theonemav wrote:
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Didn't Taeja destroy MVP in this GSL... in the round of 32? yes. he did. but of course taeja also lost to rain 2-0. Anyway i want this discussion to end, becuz fanboys cant be reasoned with Well do be fair MVP would have lost if that series was a best of 3 right? 2-1 Rain, MVP is great in those longer series where his cheese is more effective. But yes I get it Taeja is only better than MVP when they play each other ... Nice passive aggressiveness, kid Kid? lol... if you only knew. My favorite MVP moment was when he picked GuMiho in the round of 16 in season one this year and got bopped 4-1 by landed viking harass. then he won the next gsl, he beat ryung puzzle leenock naniwa parting and squirtle the "achievements from the past don't matter" argument is not good, even if you use it on MVP he's a recent GSL winner, that is worth more than Taeja's foreigner tournament wins also their mirror match up results are flawed as an argument, Elfi could snipe the best protoss in korea and then lose horribly to a b-teamer. I'm not saying MVP is clearly better, I'm saying none of the two is clearly better than the other, probably their strengths are different, and there is no objective way to determine who is better And Taeja beat him the season after he won (Round of 16 season 3) and then beat his ass again in season 4 round of 32. oh yeah the good old Stephano beat Curious, Cytoplasm beat Stephano, Delphi beat Cytoplasm argument that proves that Delphi is better than Curious. good one! i get it that you're a mvp anti-fan but you're just making yourself seem stupid if you keep repeating this lol btw around the time MVP won the gsl taeja lost to sase, socke, huk No its just the good ole Taeja owns MVP rant... they're 4-3 all together, not that hard of an ownage i seem to remember when MKP owned Taeja 5-1. so mkp>taeja>mvp>mkp
Unless you are just talking about the 2 most recent GSL's which I am....
And I'm still trying to figure out how saying Taeja beating MVP in the last two GSLs has anything to do with your whole Stephano beat Curious, Cytoplasm beat Stephano, Delphi beat Cytoplasm argument that proves that Delphi is better than Curious analogy......
And you bringing up MKP vs Taeja now is doing exactly what you were talking shit about ROFL!
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On October 12 2012 23:15 X3GoldDot wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 22:47 InoyouS2 wrote:On October 12 2012 21:28 X3GoldDot wrote:On October 12 2012 21:12 InoyouS2 wrote:On October 12 2012 18:46 X3GoldDot wrote:On October 12 2012 17:46 Entirety wrote:On October 12 2012 04:19 Corrosive wrote:On October 11 2012 00:39 partysnatcher wrote:
MVP is in my opinion one of the most overrated stars out there. Like Polt, his skillset simply doesn't draw me in as a fan, and most people who are a fan of him, usually uses his "amount of wins" as argument for why.
I personally hope he gets crushed in the finals. overrated ---> fans use his amount of wins for why he's good what the fuck am i reading 4 time gsl winner 6 time gsl finalist best performing sc2 player ever so far this has to be a troll i know that post is old but i had to reply to it Yes, that is completely ridiculous. Given how much Mvp has won, here is the 'acceptable' level of hype: Mvp is the best StarCraft 2 player seen thus far, he will win this GSL handily. It is 'acceptable' level because he deserves that much hype for all of his accomplishments. Now, on the other hand... Overrating: Mvp will never lose ever again and he will become the 1st SC2 bonjwa after winning every tournament for 10 years (it's overrating because Mvp doesn't deserve that much...) Underrating: Mvp will lose to Life. (Based on accomplishments alone, a 0 GSL winner vs. a 5 GSL finalist... saying that the 5 GSL finalist won't win is called underrating) That's right, predicting Life over Mvp is actually underrating Mvp based on achievements. you dont rate a match based on how good the players were, you rate the match by how good they are now. And life is favored in that regard, thus he is favored in the match, it wont be underrating MVP. its like saying nestea would be favored if he faced against life using your logic. Nestea is a 3time champion, sure, but is he anywhere near Life's skill? absolutely NOT. You are overrating Life from one tournament appearance, and I watched his play, it was not exactly revolutionary, in fact it was more down to TaeJa choking than Life winning. I really hate when people say things like 'Rain is the most skills Protoss' or 'Life is the most skilled Zerg' or 'TaeJa is the most skilled Terran player', it's total non-sense; regardless of their skill levels, if they don't win it doesn't matter. then you obviosly have the wrong mindset, or you are just trolling, or most likely, your just a blind MVP fanboy if you think taejas multiple wins across the world wasnt enough to make him the best terran in the world. or Rains ultimate demolishing of taeja, making to the ro4 GSL and finals of OSL wasnt enough to make him the best toss. Why does TaeJa's 'multiple wins' suddenly make him the best Terran when Mvp has 4 times as many titles? Either way you just come off as another hype-train fankiddy, and it's kinda sad to see. Also, a few deep runs does not make Rain the best Protoss, seriously what kind of glue are you huffing? I don't honestly care about current form, I care about consistency, and that's where the safe bets are always placed. TL;DR: Jumping on and off hype trains will make you one disappointed fankid. let me translate what youre saying: nestea is a 3 time champ, hes better than all the other zergs like life, leenock and curious cause they dont have championship titles, I DONT CARE IF HES CODE B HES STILL BETTER CAUSE OF HIS PAST CHAMPIONSHIP TROPHIES!! if you dont think that attitude of judging a player from distant past is retarded, then GL at predictions bro
You must be mentally challenged.
As for the BW elitist fanboy who keeps PMing me, you can stop whining for my attention, I'm not interested, keep riding the hype trains and what-not; TaeJa/Life/Rain etc etc etc. It doesn't matter, and Mvp doesn't care :D.
Also I'm amused at how it's just the Rain fanboys left sulking in this thread, get your shit together.
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