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On February 13 2012 14:25 Fionn wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 14:24 JJH777 wrote:
Lucky beat MMA with 2 6 pools recently. Losira beat Marineking with a 6 pool. I didn't watch the series so I'm not going to say that IdrA thought he was going to win but it definitely isn't a game throwing strategy.. But Alive CALLED IT IN THE FOURTH GAME. He knew it was coming. There was a 0% chance that Alive, currently one of the best five Terrans in the entire world, was going to lose to a "sixpoll" when he called it before it even got close to him.
I didn't read into it as him predicting another 6 pool but more of questioning Idra for 6 pooling the previous game. If I was in aLive's position I would be a little be confused as well seeing that play from Idra.
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On February 13 2012 14:36 BronzeKnee wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 14:34 DDie wrote:
Can we please keep the mindless idra defense routine for his fan club, please? This thread is to discuss what actually happened in the game, which is idra being idra and getting stomped and rolled over. Sure, but only if we keep the mindless Idra bashing out of the thread too. Fact is what happened is Alive cheesed twice, and Idra cheesed twice, and Idra lost. Show match over.
Fact is alive used a pressure build in the first game, the second game can't be called a cheese by anyone but the blindest fanboy, and third and fourth games idra 6pooled and instantly left the game after he didn't kill his opponent, while also GGing a total of 0 out of 4 games
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On February 13 2012 14:36 sharky246 wrote:
Maybe idra has no respect for cheesy players and gave up for that reason. It happens all the time. I thought people would be used to it by now.
He wasn't invited and paid to respect anybody. Just play his best and provide entertainment.
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Pathetic. Why do people keep inviting IdrA to showmatches? Regardless of how many viewers there were, 99% of them are complaining. This isn't good for NASL who has already had their fair share of problems (no, i'm not saying it's NASL's fault, but its still another shitty thing that happened).
Seriously. Stop inviting him to things so maybe he will realize he actually has to try. Such a childish attitute to throw the last 2 games if he doesn't like how the first two go. And if anyone thinks that IdrA, one of the most macro oriented players, would 6 pool 2 games in a row (one after alive predicted it in chat), then you are fooling yourself for absolutely no reason.
I'm a huge god damn IdrA fan and it's just absolutely dissapointing to see him play like this.
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On February 13 2012 14:33 Mr Showtime wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 14:25 wanghis wrote:On February 13 2012 14:23 Mr Showtime wrote:On February 13 2012 14:12 bennyaus wrote:On February 13 2012 14:10 Mr Showtime wrote:On February 13 2012 14:00 wanghis wrote:On February 13 2012 13:59 BronzeKnee wrote:On February 13 2012 13:55 Beakyboo wrote:
I'm sure he knows people want to see macro games out of him too. Like, it's a showmatch, he must be aware that the whole point is people want to see these games. Showing up and then deciding you don't actually want to play is really a big fuck you to everyone watching. It's hard to understand why he's even still doing this with that attitude. There is such double standard here it is ridiculous, if I was a mod I would be handing out bans for player bashing. Imagine if this had been a best of three and Alive's first two cheeses failed badly. Would we be all over Alive, accusing him of not caring, throwing the match, not coming to play a macro game ect? No, so why are we accusing Idra? All this proved is that Alive is a better cheeser than Idra, since all the games were cheese. It was just as much Alive's fault that the games were cheese as it was Idra's. And that is the facts. Idra did not show up and not want to play, Alive showed up to cheese, and Idra decided to cheese in response. Hate them both (and hate cheese) or hate neither. The double standard is ridiculous. Except Alive was using legitimate strategies and IdrA was 6 pooling while doing a bad job of it? No, he's kinda right. Double 11 racks is about as cheesy as it gets for Terran. The only way to make it even more cheesy would be if he pulled all his SCVs at some point. Think of it this way, swap games 3&4 with games 1&2. IdrA 6pools in game one: Oh well. Sucks it didn't work. Sick sick defense by alive. 6pool in game 2: Tried to fool alive by doing the same build. Scouted and failed. Game 3: Hatch first. Lose to cheese. Game 4: Hatch first. Lose to semi-all-in. I'm not going to pretend that the 6pools weren't a result of IdrA being on tilt. They likely were (maybe not the crossfire game, but Dual Sight almost certainly). However, my point is that I kinda agree with BronzeKnee. There is a double standard here. Hey guys, Let's construe the truth in such a manner so that IdrA seems like less of a bad guy. Signed, Irrational fans. Stop comparing 2base double reactor hellion with 6pool, and even 11/11 can't be compared with 6pool. 11/11 at least has a history of working and makes it a decent choice in a BoX series. Nobody is comparing a 6pool to a double reactor hellion. Hey guys, Let's read so far into a post that we can start making shit up. Signed, The Angry Ignoramus Oh look.... I can do that too. Except that he was calling a 9 minute double reactor hellion push cheese and thus comparing it to a 6 pool? Double reactor hellion is not cheese, was not referred to as cheese, and will never be called cheese. It is, however, a semi-all-in play (as was clearly stated before. but apparently not clear enough for you). If it succeeds, you win. If it fails, you pretty much lose. It's not over, but the Zerg needs to really fuck up bad if you want to win.
I am not referring to your post in which you referred to it as a semi-all in ish thing, but rather to posters who believe it is so such as
On February 13 2012 13:59 BronzeKnee wrote:
There is such double standard here it is ridiculous, if I was a mod I would be handing out bans for player bashing. Imagine if this had been a best of three and Alive's first two cheeses failed badly. Would we be all over Alive, accusing him of not caring, throwing the match, not coming to play a macro game ect?
or others in the thread such as
On February 13 2012 13:59 Megabuster123 wrote:
So Idra basically got cheesed twice and then said fuck it. Realistically he would've probably been cheesed out the last two games anyway...
which basically show either these people did not watch the second game, or are under the impression that a 9 minute push is all in
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On February 13 2012 14:36 BronzeKnee wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 14:34 DDie wrote:
Can we please keep the mindless idra defense routine for his fan club, please? This thread is to discuss what actually happened in the game, which is idra being idra and getting stomped and rolled over. Sure, but only if we keep the mindless Idra bashing out of the thread too. As you said, I am defending Idra, I wouldn't have to if people weren't attacking him. Fact is what happened is Alive cheesed twice, and Idra cheesed twice, and Idra lost. Show match over.
Idra bashing? He got 4-0'd. How would you call that, a close series or an ass whooping? The bashing is just normal(and expected) in that situation. Especially if its Idra, deal with.
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On February 13 2012 14:36 BronzeKnee wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 14:34 DDie wrote:
Can we please keep the mindless idra defense routine for his fan club, please? This thread is to discuss what actually happened in the game, which is idra being idra and getting stomped and rolled over. Sure, but only if we keep the mindless Idra bashing out of the thread too. As you said, I am defending Idra, I wouldn't have to if people weren't attacking him. Fact is what happened is Alive cheesed twice, and Idra cheesed twice, and Idra lost. Show match over.
You're equating 2-base hellion to a 6pool vs Terran. Sure, Alive's build was a little cheesy, but 6pooling twice to essentially shit on his commitment to NASL is not the same thing as breaking some ethereal "no-cheese" showmatch gentlemen's code. Showmatch =/= 15-minute no-rush
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On February 13 2012 14:39 wanghis wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 14:33 Mr Showtime wrote:On February 13 2012 14:25 wanghis wrote:On February 13 2012 14:23 Mr Showtime wrote:On February 13 2012 14:12 bennyaus wrote:On February 13 2012 14:10 Mr Showtime wrote:On February 13 2012 14:00 wanghis wrote:On February 13 2012 13:59 BronzeKnee wrote:On February 13 2012 13:55 Beakyboo wrote:
I'm sure he knows people want to see macro games out of him too. Like, it's a showmatch, he must be aware that the whole point is people want to see these games. Showing up and then deciding you don't actually want to play is really a big fuck you to everyone watching. It's hard to understand why he's even still doing this with that attitude. There is such double standard here it is ridiculous, if I was a mod I would be handing out bans for player bashing. Imagine if this had been a best of three and Alive's first two cheeses failed badly. Would we be all over Alive, accusing him of not caring, throwing the match, not coming to play a macro game ect? No, so why are we accusing Idra? All this proved is that Alive is a better cheeser than Idra, since all the games were cheese. It was just as much Alive's fault that the games were cheese as it was Idra's. And that is the facts. Idra did not show up and not want to play, Alive showed up to cheese, and Idra decided to cheese in response. Hate them both (and hate cheese) or hate neither. The double standard is ridiculous. Except Alive was using legitimate strategies and IdrA was 6 pooling while doing a bad job of it? No, he's kinda right. Double 11 racks is about as cheesy as it gets for Terran. The only way to make it even more cheesy would be if he pulled all his SCVs at some point. Think of it this way, swap games 3&4 with games 1&2. IdrA 6pools in game one: Oh well. Sucks it didn't work. Sick sick defense by alive. 6pool in game 2: Tried to fool alive by doing the same build. Scouted and failed. Game 3: Hatch first. Lose to cheese. Game 4: Hatch first. Lose to semi-all-in. I'm not going to pretend that the 6pools weren't a result of IdrA being on tilt. They likely were (maybe not the crossfire game, but Dual Sight almost certainly). However, my point is that I kinda agree with BronzeKnee. There is a double standard here. Hey guys, Let's construe the truth in such a manner so that IdrA seems like less of a bad guy. Signed, Irrational fans. Stop comparing 2base double reactor hellion with 6pool, and even 11/11 can't be compared with 6pool. 11/11 at least has a history of working and makes it a decent choice in a BoX series. Nobody is comparing a 6pool to a double reactor hellion. Hey guys, Let's read so far into a post that we can start making shit up. Signed, The Angry Ignoramus Oh look.... I can do that too. Except that he was calling a 9 minute double reactor hellion push cheese and thus comparing it to a 6 pool? Double reactor hellion is not cheese, was not referred to as cheese, and will never be called cheese. It is, however, a semi-all-in play (as was clearly stated before. but apparently not clear enough for you). If it succeeds, you win. If it fails, you pretty much lose. It's not over, but the Zerg needs to really fuck up bad if you want to win. I am not referring to your post in which you referred to it as a semi-all in ish thing, but rather to posters who believe it is so such as Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 13:59 BronzeKnee wrote:
There is such double standard here it is ridiculous, if I was a mod I would be handing out bans for player bashing. Imagine if this had been a best of three and Alive's first two cheeses failed badly. Would we be all over Alive, accusing him of not caring, throwing the match, not coming to play a macro game ect?
or others in the thread such as Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 13:59 Megabuster123 wrote:
So Idra basically got cheesed twice and then said fuck it. Realistically he would've probably been cheesed out the last two games anyway...
which basically show either these people did not watch the second game, or are under the impression that a 9 minute push is all in
How is double reactor factory not all-in...>_>
He has nothing but hellions 10 minutes into the game, if that push fails he just loses. It's all dependent on Idra fucking up and not scouting it....Which he did because he's an idiot.
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On February 13 2012 14:39 wanghis wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 14:33 Mr Showtime wrote:On February 13 2012 14:25 wanghis wrote:On February 13 2012 14:23 Mr Showtime wrote:On February 13 2012 14:12 bennyaus wrote:On February 13 2012 14:10 Mr Showtime wrote:On February 13 2012 14:00 wanghis wrote:On February 13 2012 13:59 BronzeKnee wrote:On February 13 2012 13:55 Beakyboo wrote:
I'm sure he knows people want to see macro games out of him too. Like, it's a showmatch, he must be aware that the whole point is people want to see these games. Showing up and then deciding you don't actually want to play is really a big fuck you to everyone watching. It's hard to understand why he's even still doing this with that attitude. There is such double standard here it is ridiculous, if I was a mod I would be handing out bans for player bashing. Imagine if this had been a best of three and Alive's first two cheeses failed badly. Would we be all over Alive, accusing him of not caring, throwing the match, not coming to play a macro game ect? No, so why are we accusing Idra? All this proved is that Alive is a better cheeser than Idra, since all the games were cheese. It was just as much Alive's fault that the games were cheese as it was Idra's. And that is the facts. Idra did not show up and not want to play, Alive showed up to cheese, and Idra decided to cheese in response. Hate them both (and hate cheese) or hate neither. The double standard is ridiculous. Except Alive was using legitimate strategies and IdrA was 6 pooling while doing a bad job of it? No, he's kinda right. Double 11 racks is about as cheesy as it gets for Terran. The only way to make it even more cheesy would be if he pulled all his SCVs at some point. Think of it this way, swap games 3&4 with games 1&2. IdrA 6pools in game one: Oh well. Sucks it didn't work. Sick sick defense by alive. 6pool in game 2: Tried to fool alive by doing the same build. Scouted and failed. Game 3: Hatch first. Lose to cheese. Game 4: Hatch first. Lose to semi-all-in. I'm not going to pretend that the 6pools weren't a result of IdrA being on tilt. They likely were (maybe not the crossfire game, but Dual Sight almost certainly). However, my point is that I kinda agree with BronzeKnee. There is a double standard here. Hey guys, Let's construe the truth in such a manner so that IdrA seems like less of a bad guy. Signed, Irrational fans. Stop comparing 2base double reactor hellion with 6pool, and even 11/11 can't be compared with 6pool. 11/11 at least has a history of working and makes it a decent choice in a BoX series. Nobody is comparing a 6pool to a double reactor hellion. Hey guys, Let's read so far into a post that we can start making shit up. Signed, The Angry Ignoramus Oh look.... I can do that too. Except that he was calling a 9 minute double reactor hellion push cheese and thus comparing it to a 6 pool? Double reactor hellion is not cheese, was not referred to as cheese, and will never be called cheese. It is, however, a semi-all-in play (as was clearly stated before. but apparently not clear enough for you). If it succeeds, you win. If it fails, you pretty much lose. It's not over, but the Zerg needs to really fuck up bad if you want to win. I am not referring to your post in which you referred to it as a semi-all in ish thing, but rather to posters who believe it is so such as Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 13:59 BronzeKnee wrote:
There is such double standard here it is ridiculous, if I was a mod I would be handing out bans for player bashing. Imagine if this had been a best of three and Alive's first two cheeses failed badly. Would we be all over Alive, accusing him of not caring, throwing the match, not coming to play a macro game ect?
or others in the thread such as Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 13:59 Megabuster123 wrote:
So Idra basically got cheesed twice and then said fuck it. Realistically he would've probably been cheesed out the last two games anyway...
which basically show either these people did not watch the second game, or are under the impression that a 9 minute push is all in
he made like 13 hellions blind. He was basically banking that idra only would make lings. If he had a baneling nest or roach warren its an easy defence for idra. And losing 13 hellions to nothing is pretty much GG, as he had to roast at least 20+ drones for his attack to work.
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Here's what happened. Idra gets allin'ed first game. Frustrating. Allin'ed second game, now he's in DGAF mode, said ok u wanna be gay then ill be gay. 6pools 2 games in a row that he KNOWS he's not gonna win. Just did it as a fuck u to aLive to show him he really doesn't GAF about 400$ cause he already makes more money then he ever should. But we all already knew this was IdrA's attitude. Still embarrassing and sad but that's standard idra, and thats why he gets viewers.
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On February 13 2012 14:40 Boiler Bandsman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 14:36 BronzeKnee wrote:On February 13 2012 14:34 DDie wrote:
Can we please keep the mindless idra defense routine for his fan club, please? This thread is to discuss what actually happened in the game, which is idra being idra and getting stomped and rolled over. Sure, but only if we keep the mindless Idra bashing out of the thread too. As you said, I am defending Idra, I wouldn't have to if people weren't attacking him. Fact is what happened is Alive cheesed twice, and Idra cheesed twice, and Idra lost. Show match over. You're equating 2-base hellion to a 6pool vs Terran. Sure, Alive's build was a little cheesy, but 6pooling twice to essentially shit on his commitment to NASL is not the same thing as breaking some ethereal "no-cheese" showmatch gentlemen's code. Showmatch =/= 15-minute no-rush
You're splitting hairs. So a show match isn't a 15 minute no rush, and that makes 6 pooling illegal but proxy 2 rax a good strategy?
You wouldn't be saying Alive is had a "shit commitment" to the NASL if he showed up and Idra held both his cheeses and it was it a best of three and Alive lost. Nor would you say it if Idra won both of those games with 6 pools.
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On February 13 2012 14:38 Chop-Chopin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 14:36 sharky246 wrote:
Maybe idra has no respect for cheesy players and gave up for that reason. It happens all the time. I thought people would be used to it by now. He wasn't invited and paid to respect anybody. Just play his best and provide entertainment.
He did neither of those things, either. Which is sad, because at his best, he IS entertaining and is probably probably good enough to hang with Alive.
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awesome play IdrA, you sure know how to keep your fans happy!!
Jeeezz.. hype much..
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On February 13 2012 14:42 BronzeKnee wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 14:40 Boiler Bandsman wrote:On February 13 2012 14:36 BronzeKnee wrote:On February 13 2012 14:34 DDie wrote:
Can we please keep the mindless idra defense routine for his fan club, please? This thread is to discuss what actually happened in the game, which is idra being idra and getting stomped and rolled over. Sure, but only if we keep the mindless Idra bashing out of the thread too. As you said, I am defending Idra, I wouldn't have to if people weren't attacking him. Fact is what happened is Alive cheesed twice, and Idra cheesed twice, and Idra lost. Show match over. You're equating 2-base hellion to a 6pool vs Terran. Sure, Alive's build was a little cheesy, but 6pooling twice to essentially shit on his commitment to NASL is not the same thing as breaking some ethereal "no-cheese" showmatch gentlemen's code. Showmatch =/= 15-minute no-rush You're splitting hairs. So a show match isn't a 15 minute no rush, and that makes 6 pooling illegal but proxy 2 rax a good strategy?
Yes? because the 2 rax doesn't have to outright kill him, it just has to do some amount of damage and has transitions available
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i was mostly just disappointed,
i was really hoping to watch some good games from idra
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On February 13 2012 14:41 Megabuster123 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 14:39 wanghis wrote:On February 13 2012 14:33 Mr Showtime wrote:On February 13 2012 14:25 wanghis wrote:On February 13 2012 14:23 Mr Showtime wrote:On February 13 2012 14:12 bennyaus wrote:On February 13 2012 14:10 Mr Showtime wrote:On February 13 2012 14:00 wanghis wrote:On February 13 2012 13:59 BronzeKnee wrote:On February 13 2012 13:55 Beakyboo wrote:
I'm sure he knows people want to see macro games out of him too. Like, it's a showmatch, he must be aware that the whole point is people want to see these games. Showing up and then deciding you don't actually want to play is really a big fuck you to everyone watching. It's hard to understand why he's even still doing this with that attitude. There is such double standard here it is ridiculous, if I was a mod I would be handing out bans for player bashing. Imagine if this had been a best of three and Alive's first two cheeses failed badly. Would we be all over Alive, accusing him of not caring, throwing the match, not coming to play a macro game ect? No, so why are we accusing Idra? All this proved is that Alive is a better cheeser than Idra, since all the games were cheese. It was just as much Alive's fault that the games were cheese as it was Idra's. And that is the facts. Idra did not show up and not want to play, Alive showed up to cheese, and Idra decided to cheese in response. Hate them both (and hate cheese) or hate neither. The double standard is ridiculous. Except Alive was using legitimate strategies and IdrA was 6 pooling while doing a bad job of it? No, he's kinda right. Double 11 racks is about as cheesy as it gets for Terran. The only way to make it even more cheesy would be if he pulled all his SCVs at some point. Think of it this way, swap games 3&4 with games 1&2. IdrA 6pools in game one: Oh well. Sucks it didn't work. Sick sick defense by alive. 6pool in game 2: Tried to fool alive by doing the same build. Scouted and failed. Game 3: Hatch first. Lose to cheese. Game 4: Hatch first. Lose to semi-all-in. I'm not going to pretend that the 6pools weren't a result of IdrA being on tilt. They likely were (maybe not the crossfire game, but Dual Sight almost certainly). However, my point is that I kinda agree with BronzeKnee. There is a double standard here. Hey guys, Let's construe the truth in such a manner so that IdrA seems like less of a bad guy. Signed, Irrational fans. Stop comparing 2base double reactor hellion with 6pool, and even 11/11 can't be compared with 6pool. 11/11 at least has a history of working and makes it a decent choice in a BoX series. Nobody is comparing a 6pool to a double reactor hellion. Hey guys, Let's read so far into a post that we can start making shit up. Signed, The Angry Ignoramus Oh look.... I can do that too. Except that he was calling a 9 minute double reactor hellion push cheese and thus comparing it to a 6 pool? Double reactor hellion is not cheese, was not referred to as cheese, and will never be called cheese. It is, however, a semi-all-in play (as was clearly stated before. but apparently not clear enough for you). If it succeeds, you win. If it fails, you pretty much lose. It's not over, but the Zerg needs to really fuck up bad if you want to win. I am not referring to your post in which you referred to it as a semi-all in ish thing, but rather to posters who believe it is so such as On February 13 2012 13:59 BronzeKnee wrote:
There is such double standard here it is ridiculous, if I was a mod I would be handing out bans for player bashing. Imagine if this had been a best of three and Alive's first two cheeses failed badly. Would we be all over Alive, accusing him of not caring, throwing the match, not coming to play a macro game ect?
or others in the thread such as On February 13 2012 13:59 Megabuster123 wrote:
So Idra basically got cheesed twice and then said fuck it. Realistically he would've probably been cheesed out the last two games anyway...
which basically show either these people did not watch the second game, or are under the impression that a 9 minute push is all in How is double reactor factory not all-in...>_> He has nothing but hellions 10 minutes into the game, if that push fails he just loses. It's all dependent on Idra fucking up and not scouting it....Which he did because he's an idiot.
I'm not saying it's not all in. I'm saying despite what people claim it is not cheese
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why are people comparing zerg's allin with terran's allin? Terrans can make up for the strain from the allin with mules. That's what makes terrans allins so effective.
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Some may be interested. I found this screenshot on reddit:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/e2ORc.jpg)
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On February 13 2012 14:42 BronzeKnee wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 14:40 Boiler Bandsman wrote:On February 13 2012 14:36 BronzeKnee wrote:On February 13 2012 14:34 DDie wrote:
Can we please keep the mindless idra defense routine for his fan club, please? This thread is to discuss what actually happened in the game, which is idra being idra and getting stomped and rolled over. Sure, but only if we keep the mindless Idra bashing out of the thread too. As you said, I am defending Idra, I wouldn't have to if people weren't attacking him. Fact is what happened is Alive cheesed twice, and Idra cheesed twice, and Idra lost. Show match over. You're equating 2-base hellion to a 6pool vs Terran. Sure, Alive's build was a little cheesy, but 6pooling twice to essentially shit on his commitment to NASL is not the same thing as breaking some ethereal "no-cheese" showmatch gentlemen's code. Showmatch =/= 15-minute no-rush You're splitting hairs. So a show match isn't a 15 minute no rush, and that makes 6 pooling illegal but proxy 2 rax a good strategy? You wouldn't be saying Alive is had a "shit commitment" to the NASL if he showed up and Idra held both his cheeses and it was it a best of three and Alive lost. Nor would you say it if Idra won both of those games with 6 pools.
Alive cheesed because he knew it's probably going to work. It was strategic play.
IdrA cheesed because he didn't give a shit. He knew it's not gonna work. It was his "fuck off" to pretty much everyone.
It's not that hard to understand why people think IdrA acted like a child.
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On February 13 2012 14:43 wanghis wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 14:42 BronzeKnee wrote:On February 13 2012 14:40 Boiler Bandsman wrote:On February 13 2012 14:36 BronzeKnee wrote:On February 13 2012 14:34 DDie wrote:
Can we please keep the mindless idra defense routine for his fan club, please? This thread is to discuss what actually happened in the game, which is idra being idra and getting stomped and rolled over. Sure, but only if we keep the mindless Idra bashing out of the thread too. As you said, I am defending Idra, I wouldn't have to if people weren't attacking him. Fact is what happened is Alive cheesed twice, and Idra cheesed twice, and Idra lost. Show match over. You're equating 2-base hellion to a 6pool vs Terran. Sure, Alive's build was a little cheesy, but 6pooling twice to essentially shit on his commitment to NASL is not the same thing as breaking some ethereal "no-cheese" showmatch gentlemen's code. Showmatch =/= 15-minute no-rush You're splitting hairs. So a show match isn't a 15 minute no rush, and that makes 6 pooling illegal but proxy 2 rax a good strategy? Yes? because...
Alright, I am done with this argument, apparently 6 pooling is illegal, but proxy 2 rax is fine. Saying that 11/11 proxy rax has transitions is like saying the 4 gate has transitions or a 6 pool has transitions. Sure it can transition, but if you do no damage, you transition yourself into a loss, unless the other player messes up royally.
Alive went all-in, and he won. He took a huge risk and it paid off. Idra took a huge risk and it didn't pay off.
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