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Can't go to lunch without coming back to 20+ reports. This makes me upset. Stop the bullshit or get ready to hammered. Thanks --Pholon |
On December 13 2011 21:21 purpose wrote:
If people whine about naniwa not finishing a useless game, then players should be forced to never gg in a game but play it out until the last building is destroyed. Because otherwise I will complain to their teams beause I want to see long games played to the end yada yada yada.
What naniwa did was about as serious as type gg prematurely. and that happens alot. People need to stop be so damn dramatic about this. Its like Naniwa comitted a crime and that you feel violated or something.
Get over it!!
Sorry but I can't help but notice...
The swedes here are all jumping to Nani's defence. Come on guys. Take the plank out of your eye.
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On December 13 2011 21:18 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 21:16 ethorn wrote:
Nice overreaction by you forum guys.
How can you blame him?
He is pissed off and have no motivation to play after getting cheesed out of the tournament.
That last match means literally nothing for both of the players and shouldn't even have been played. It's a stupid format. It is far beyond most people at TL to understand human emotion. We want PROFESSIONALISM in ESPORTS, fuck how the players feel. -_-
Actually professionalism involves the ability to understand everyone's emotions. Being concerned with how only you feel is called selfishness.
Furthermore, since when did personal feelings allow you to blatantly violate rules and throw a match?
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Honestly I agree with the people saying GOM should take action over this, something like a 1 season ban from entering any GOM run tournament. As Nazgul said if betting had taken place for this match......in no other professional sport would you see a player just throw a game like that, regardless of whether the match is meaningful or not - and if it does happen, a professional body will step in and take action against that player.
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I feel so bad for quantic gaming....
their tweets before and after that naniwa game...
so depressing
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On December 13 2011 21:20 rblstr wrote:
Nani doesn't give a single fuck.
And neither do I.
Love his attitude, pointless match.
My man 
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On December 13 2011 21:21 Samahoj wrote:
i find it understandable that nani threw the game, it didn't change anything in the group and the pricemoney for 4th and 5th place is the same. the game shouldn't have been played.
How can you find it understandable ? Don't you realize how disrespectful it is towards the viewers, the sponsors (imagine if they tuned in during that game), the casters etc ... ?
Just explain to me, I can't understand
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On December 13 2011 21:21 dkream wrote:
funny how ppl are trying to justify what nani's done. so much for e-sports and being professional.
yeah without fans so much for being pro
From what I read every day in the forum, we e-sport fans are pretty fucking pathetic and fickle ... Swear we were either half bemoaning the cheese done to Naniwa.
I think the basic thing to say is that worker rushing at this level is just giving up, so we should just all admit that.
However, for his reasons, and towards professionalism, yes in most sports he'd come under sportsmanship rules, which can usually include docked pay or banning from certain events.
I think what needs to be done is for his mood swings to be worked on with the coach.
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On December 13 2011 21:16 ethorn wrote:
Nice overreaction by you forum guys.
How can you blame him?
He is pissed off and have no motivation to play after getting cheesed out of the tournament.
That last match means literally nothing for both of the players and shouldn't even have been played. It's a stupid format.
This is a tournament for the best sc2-players in the world. I´d like to think of them as sportsmen trying their very best and at the same time showing sportsmanship and respecting the fans. Naniwa may be one of the best protoss players in the world, but I´ve lost my respect for him. I can´t blame him for his behaviour, but I can choose to not support him.
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On December 13 2011 21:20 roymarthyup wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 21:18 Ysellian wrote:On December 13 2011 21:16 Full.tilt wrote:On December 13 2011 21:06 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
No respect to viewers, producers, casters and anyone else involved in making this tournament a success.
If there were betting lines out of these matches it's absolutely unacceptable regarding that as well. I doubt Naniwa researched that so it's morally the same decision. He played in the tournament, the tournament was over for him and his opponent. The result has no effect on who goes through or who goes out. MC arguably not trying so Stephano got knocked out is more significant than this situation. You just gave Nazgul the best counter argument. MC played his absolute butt off when he had nothing to gain. please explain given this format, i cannot see how at any time losing a game could be "good" for a player was there really a moment yesterday where mc could throw a match and increase someones chances to get knocked out but he is not knocked out? or what? how does that work? and what actually happened if you dont mind filling me in
MC could have won or lost yesterday and he would have not only qualified, but end on the same spot I believe. (This is my belief, if what I stated isn't true please correct me anyone).
But anyway MC played really well and DRG even admitted being scared to lose at some point during the game.
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On December 13 2011 21:20 Crashburn wrote:
This community is fucking embarrassing.
Wholeheartedly agree,
"NANIWA LOST A GAME THAT MEANS NOTHING NO MATTER WHO WON, BURN HIM AT THE STAKE AND BAN HIM FROM GSL!!!11!!!1111!!!!!111111!!"
Seriously people, get a grip, it's such an insignificant thing.
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I dont get how naniwa can be blamed for this...
The only reason Naniwa is there is becouse he wants to win. I dont think any of you understand how devastated he gets when he looses a game. Naniwa definitly wanted to concede that game but he had to play it out. In my opinion what gom did to naniwa was far more disrespectful then what naniwa did to the viewers and that game should never have been played in the first place.
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On December 13 2011 21:22 Hydroxyl wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 21:07 Blaec wrote:On December 13 2011 21:06 Itsmedudeman wrote:On December 13 2011 21:05 raga4ka wrote:
Naniwa really is the new Idra . Not even idra would do that Are you sure? I don't think Idra would have even entered the booth. QFT. Idra already denied viewers from IPL3 groupstage matches, and I haven't seen the same reaction than here.
Idra vs MC in dreamhack invitational...
He 6 pooled and a shitstorm ensued...
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On December 13 2011 21:18 Doublemint wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 21:10 MayorITC wrote:On December 13 2011 21:06 Ryuuka wrote:
Why should he even play, that game had NO meaning what so ever. I respect Naniwas decision.
1. Sportsmanship 2. He had the opportunity to earn money, partially funded by people who pay to watch the games. 3. It's not just about him. If Nestea is going to take the time to play against him, the casters are taking the time to cast the game and GomTV is taking the time to broadcast the match, then he should play. That selfish mentality is the whole reason people label Naniwa as immature. There's nothing wrong with that kind of behavior on the ladder, but when you're a PROFESSIONAL player, there's a certain code of conduct people are expected to follow. 1. he forfeited - I guess that´s his right is it not? 2. nobody forced them to pay for it - they want to get something out of it as well and actually do with this little stunt. 3.obviously it is - because people are watching and give a damn about him making a show - even PAYING for it. really don´t understand how people get so upset about that brilliant, probably unintended, PR stunt.
If he wanted to forfeit, then he should not have let the match start..
I can understand if you want to forfeit during a game, like any sports, e.g injury etc.
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guys naniwa did it for khaldor. the KSL starts in 38 min. he needs to finish up blizzcup to be in time for that. dont be hating.
good guy naniwa
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two questions
how is naniwa in code s but never won a gsl match?
i understand he got code s from a mlg, but didnt he lose after that so he lost code S?
also my previous question
On December 13 2011 21:20 roymarthyup wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 21:18 Ysellian wrote:On December 13 2011 21:16 Full.tilt wrote:On December 13 2011 21:06 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
No respect to viewers, producers, casters and anyone else involved in making this tournament a success.
If there were betting lines out of these matches it's absolutely unacceptable regarding that as well. I doubt Naniwa researched that so it's morally the same decision. He played in the tournament, the tournament was over for him and his opponent. The result has no effect on who goes through or who goes out. MC arguably not trying so Stephano got knocked out is more significant than this situation. You just gave Nazgul the best counter argument. MC played his absolute butt off when he had nothing to gain. please explain given this format, i cannot see how at any time losing a game could be "good" for a player was there really a moment yesterday where mc could throw a match and increase someones chances to get knocked out but he is not knocked out? or what? how does that work? and what actually happened if you dont mind filling me in
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Lord_J
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Polt needs to win this game if he doesn't want to play MVP in the Ro6.
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I think we should stop the Nani discussion now, perhaps. There's a GSL Super Tourney Bo1 rematch going on. That's kind of a big deal.
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MMA sure have something with Polt hahaha
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I can't believe people think that Naniwa should be dropped from Code S for throwing away a throw away game after he dropped 0-3, especially knowing what kind of person Naniwa is.
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holy shit, stim combat +1 +1 and armory and 2 medivacs finish ALL at the same time.
NOICE.
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