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On September 27 2011 19:05 marttorn wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 19:02 HwangjaeTerran wrote:On September 27 2011 19:01 Probe1 wrote:
Nice to see the live report thread is back to its usual self. 8 people theorycrafting, 2 people balance whining, 1 person that acts with authority about something he has no idea about and a whole lot of No votes on games that were entertaining.
Welcome back guys, we missed you. +1 guy counting the number of people in the live report thread. Nice to see you too Proberto Who am I 
Noone knows.
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they have already nerfed 2 rax several times now and good zergs were able to hold it off even when it was clearly imbalanced, yes it's hard still but not imbalanced at all anymore, losira is just bad at holding off 2 rax pressure, I also feel like he should go for 15 hatch and cut a drone and get an earlier pool. I know zerg have this mindset of having to constantly produce drones, but they don't have to, if you cut 1 or 2 drones before spawning pool, you get your pool and zerglings much much earlier, even in time to stop 11/11 bunker rushes. So yeah you cut economy, but completely hold off any sort of 2rax aggression and get a free expand pretty much.
I always get mad when i see zergs go 15 hatch /18 pool ( or even 16/17) against terran, I don't think people realize how ridiculously greedy that is.
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On September 27 2011 19:05 Demonace34 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 19:04 Demonace34 wrote:July spawns at 8, Ganzi spawns at 2. 3:00 Tech lab barracks for Ganzi. Hatch into pool for July.
4:25 Reaper comes out for Ganzi. CC goes down at the natural. Combat shields also on the way. Metabolic boost coming from July. Reaper harassing zerg.
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On September 27 2011 19:06 Seditary wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 19:05 marttorn wrote:On September 27 2011 19:02 HwangjaeTerran wrote:On September 27 2011 19:01 Probe1 wrote:
Nice to see the live report thread is back to its usual self. 8 people theorycrafting, 2 people balance whining, 1 person that acts with authority about something he has no idea about and a whole lot of No votes on games that were entertaining.
Welcome back guys, we missed you. +1 guy counting the number of people in the live report thread. Nice to see you too Proberto Who am I Noone knows.
Well then I need an identity!
Uhh Terran imba! Mules too good! Yeah!
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On September 27 2011 19:06 Seditary wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 19:05 marttorn wrote:On September 27 2011 19:02 HwangjaeTerran wrote:On September 27 2011 19:01 Probe1 wrote:
Nice to see the live report thread is back to its usual self. 8 people theorycrafting, 2 people balance whining, 1 person that acts with authority about something he has no idea about and a whole lot of No votes on games that were entertaining.
Welcome back guys, we missed you. +1 guy counting the number of people in the live report thread. Nice to see you too Proberto Who am I Noone knows.
I was the guy acting on authority about something I know nothing about.
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Pretty smart play from Ganzi so far. Whoa that's a fast Lair from July.
On September 27 2011 19:05 Seditary wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 19:04 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
How do you get Clea from Celes Tasteless..
Brain damage, must be the only explanation.
Or no passion!
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On September 27 2011 19:04 Zooper31 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 19:03 Drygioni wrote:On September 27 2011 19:02 Zooper31 wrote:On September 27 2011 19:01 eviltomahawk wrote:
Anyways, I have a feeling that perhaps DRG or Dimaga could have handled that rush a bit better. IM Zergs REALLY need to step up their ZvT, as they are definitely weaker in that matchup. You'd think having the best zerg in the world on your team to practice and learn from would help you in that regard... or the best terran for that matter lol. Totally forgot about MVP lol. No excuse then. Just have Nestea and MVP do a 3hour gaming marathon vs each other and just have everyone spectate the games. God knows how much you'd learn from that session.
Considering that Nestea is 1-10 against MVP, it wouldn't be a pretty sight.
Considering that Nestea and MVP run into each other all the time in GSL, I wouldn't be surprised if they don't practice against each other as much as we would expect them to.
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On September 27 2011 19:05 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 19:02 Termit wrote:On September 27 2011 18:58 sitromit wrote:On September 27 2011 18:55 Termit wrote:On September 27 2011 18:53 sitromit wrote:
Looks like the 5 seconds to Barracks stopped 11/11 right cold!... Well, was it suppose to stop Terran for punishing greedy zergs? Blizzard said they made the change because of 11/11, so yeah... So Zerg players can be greedy and go 14/15 hatch first? I doubt it. Blizzard changed 11/11. But this was 13/13, Losira could have done that better. But Blizzard should do something about the retarded drones not attacking the scv, when the scv moves an inch.
I know they changed the time cuz they felt 11/11 was to strong. But people seems to think they did it so Zerg can be greedy unpunished but of course a double proxy rax against hatch first will be strong. Even stronger when you don't pull enough drones.
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On September 27 2011 19:06 Demonace34 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 19:05 Demonace34 wrote:On September 27 2011 19:04 Demonace34 wrote:July spawns at 8, Ganzi spawns at 2. 3:00 Tech lab barracks for Ganzi. Hatch into pool for July. 4:25 Reaper comes out for Ganzi. CC goes down at the natural. Combat shields also on the way. Metabolic boost coming from July. Reaper harassing zerg.
6:20 Stim on the way for Ganzi, July getting his lair along with a spine at the front.
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On September 27 2011 19:06 marttorn wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 19:06 Seditary wrote:On September 27 2011 19:05 marttorn wrote:On September 27 2011 19:02 HwangjaeTerran wrote:On September 27 2011 19:01 Probe1 wrote:
Nice to see the live report thread is back to its usual self. 8 people theorycrafting, 2 people balance whining, 1 person that acts with authority about something he has no idea about and a whole lot of No votes on games that were entertaining.
Welcome back guys, we missed you. +1 guy counting the number of people in the live report thread. Nice to see you too Proberto Who am I Noone knows. Well then I need an identity! Uhh Terran imba! Mules too good! Yeah!
Welcome to the dark side.
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On September 27 2011 19:07 Probe1 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 19:06 Seditary wrote:On September 27 2011 19:05 marttorn wrote:On September 27 2011 19:02 HwangjaeTerran wrote:On September 27 2011 19:01 Probe1 wrote:
Nice to see the live report thread is back to its usual self. 8 people theorycrafting, 2 people balance whining, 1 person that acts with authority about something he has no idea about and a whole lot of No votes on games that were entertaining.
Welcome back guys, we missed you. +1 guy counting the number of people in the live report thread. Nice to see you too Proberto Who am I Noone knows. I was the guy acting on authority about something I know nothing about.
Ah, self-deprecation, so delicious.
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I just came home from school, the games didn't seem to be that good. Anything special?
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On September 27 2011 19:08 Demonace34 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 19:06 Demonace34 wrote:On September 27 2011 19:05 Demonace34 wrote:On September 27 2011 19:04 Demonace34 wrote:July spawns at 8, Ganzi spawns at 2. 3:00 Tech lab barracks for Ganzi. Hatch into pool for July. 4:25 Reaper comes out for Ganzi. CC goes down at the natural. Combat shields also on the way. Metabolic boost coming from July. Reaper harassing zerg. 6:20 Stim on the way for Ganzi, July getting his lair along with a spine at the front.
7:40 July's lair finishes up, bane nest and evolution chamber also on the way. Ganzi goes up to 4 gas and is teching to starport.
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On September 27 2011 19:07 eviltomahawk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 19:04 Zooper31 wrote:On September 27 2011 19:03 Drygioni wrote:On September 27 2011 19:02 Zooper31 wrote:On September 27 2011 19:01 eviltomahawk wrote:
Anyways, I have a feeling that perhaps DRG or Dimaga could have handled that rush a bit better. IM Zergs REALLY need to step up their ZvT, as they are definitely weaker in that matchup. You'd think having the best zerg in the world on your team to practice and learn from would help you in that regard... or the best terran for that matter lol. Totally forgot about MVP lol. No excuse then. Just have Nestea and MVP do a 3hour gaming marathon vs each other and just have everyone spectate the games. God knows how much you'd learn from that session. Considering that Nestea is 1-10 against MVP, it wouldn't be a pretty sight. Considering that Nestea and MVP run into each other all the time in GSL, I wouldn't be surprised if they don't practice against each other as much as we would expect them to.
Still even if Nestea got stomped for like 3hours all the zergs on the IM team would learn EXACTLY what to expect and when and what not to do.
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On September 27 2011 19:07 Probe1 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 19:06 Seditary wrote:On September 27 2011 19:05 marttorn wrote:On September 27 2011 19:02 HwangjaeTerran wrote:On September 27 2011 19:01 Probe1 wrote:
Nice to see the live report thread is back to its usual self. 8 people theorycrafting, 2 people balance whining, 1 person that acts with authority about something he has no idea about and a whole lot of No votes on games that were entertaining.
Welcome back guys, we missed you. +1 guy counting the number of people in the live report thread. Nice to see you too Proberto Who am I Noone knows. I was the guy acting on authority about something I know nothing about.
I still respected your authority.
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Why do zergs still complain about the 11/11 rax? Expanding before building any unit is greedy and you dont want terran to punish that greedy play?
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On September 27 2011 19:07 Termit wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 19:05 Koshi wrote:On September 27 2011 19:02 Termit wrote:On September 27 2011 18:58 sitromit wrote:On September 27 2011 18:55 Termit wrote:On September 27 2011 18:53 sitromit wrote:
Looks like the 5 seconds to Barracks stopped 11/11 right cold!... Well, was it suppose to stop Terran for punishing greedy zergs? Blizzard said they made the change because of 11/11, so yeah... So Zerg players can be greedy and go 14/15 hatch first? I doubt it. Blizzard changed 11/11. But this was 13/13, Losira could have done that better. But Blizzard should do something about the retarded drones not attacking the scv, when the scv moves an inch. I know they changed the time cuz they felt 11/11 was to strong. But people seems to think they did it so Zerg can be greedy unpunished but of course a double proxy rax against hatch first will be strong. Even stronger when you don't pull enough drones.
14/15 hatch can kinda hold off 11/11 proxied
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I really really dislike placing your bling nest in the front....
@ Finngamer
No.
July won against Hongun with 3base burrowed Roaches with Blingdrops against an attempt to get 3 fast bases by Hongung, and Ganzi played 2 proxy rax bunker rush against Losira
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Its just losiras own fault. I thought he would learn how to deal with 2 rax pressure since he dropped to up and down last gsl thanks to ensnare. He hasn't improved/learned how to deal with it and he deserves to lose every bit for that.
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EPT
