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eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
September 27 2011 10:01 GMT
#541
Anyways, I have a feeling that perhaps DRG or Dimaga could have handled that rush a bit better. IM Zergs REALLY need to step up their ZvT, as they are definitely weaker in that matchup.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
fant0m
Profile Joined May 2010
964 Posts
September 27 2011 10:01 GMT
#542
On September 27 2011 18:59 Lysanias wrote:
He did send a drone out, big map he went the wrong way, lucky for Ganzi, but you can't send out 2/3 drones that would be retarded.


All he had to do was tap the Xelnaga Towers though.... that's pretty basic stuff when scouting for cheese (and scouting in general), which he obviously was doing (drone running around in the middle of the map for the entire time the rax were building).
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
September 27 2011 10:01 GMT
#543
On September 27 2011 18:59 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 18:56 Alpina wrote:
On September 27 2011 18:54 Maghetti wrote:
Why is Losira the only guy who can't defend the 2 rax right with his drones?


You watched the game? How in the hell are you going to kill 4 marines which are stading behind the building bunker?



aggressive move out with drones very early
He won't get a bunker down!
You need 7+ drones down there when the bunker starts, and you can defend 11/11!


1. he could not hit the scv in that corner.
2. limited suround of the bunker, like 4 drones max.
3. ganzi came 2 sec after the drones attacked with 4 marines.
hid them behind the bunker, good luck pulling drones m8.

He should have gone spawnpool first he would have a shot then.
cENTRYZ
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway832 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 10:03:07
September 27 2011 10:01 GMT
#544
I'm tired, shoot me.


Gogo, July!
yandere991
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia394 Posts
September 27 2011 10:01 GMT
#545
On September 27 2011 19:00 Pajegetc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 18:59 Lysanias wrote:
On September 27 2011 18:57 Pajegetc wrote:
On September 27 2011 18:56 Alpina wrote:
On September 27 2011 18:54 Maghetti wrote:
Why is Losira the only guy who can't defend the 2 rax right with his drones?


You watched the game? How in the hell are you going to kill 4 marines which are stading behind the building bunker?


Scout more maybe? This seems to be a common problem with Losira's early ZvT. You'd think he would become prepared for it by now. It's his own fault.


He did send a drone out, big map he went the wrong way, lucky for Ganzi, but you can't send out 2/3 drones that would be retarded.


2/3 drones or losing your hatchery then the game... uhmm... Decision, decisions.


Protoss generally sends more than one probe, it can't be that damaging to send an additional worker out when you're hatching that early.
snafoo
Profile Joined August 2010
New Zealand1615 Posts
September 27 2011 10:01 GMT
#546
On September 27 2011 19:00 HwangjaeTerran wrote:

Maybe Losira should've invested 3 seconds of drone travel time to stop by any of the 4 XNTs and he might not have been so blind to what was coming ^^


barracks wernt in vision...
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
September 27 2011 10:01 GMT
#547
On September 27 2011 18:55 Pipeline wrote:
I dislike terrans in general but the slayers terrans are by far the worst. They do so much gimmicky bullshit and they introduced the incredibly boring bfh period

Play to win. You gotta give it to them for being able to think up all these gimmicky tactics that allow them to WIN while no one else does
Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
September 27 2011 10:01 GMT
#548
I think it should just all come back on Losira, he either needs to scout every game for shenanigans or just be way behind to that type of rush. The FOW is there for a reason and he just didn't respond well to it.

Eventually pros are going to have to map out all the good proxy locations and just scout more and will be able to hold it.
NaNiwa|IdrA|HuK|iNcontroL|Jinro|NonY|Day[9]|PuMa|HerO|MMA|NesTea|NaDa|Boxer|Ryung|
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
September 27 2011 10:01 GMT
#549
On September 27 2011 18:59 MrCon wrote:
Everyone is proxying 2 raxes on antiga.
Everyone is bunker rushing Losira because he always take way too much damage from this.
And still the IM house/coach/players didn't told Losira that perhaps he'll get proxy bunker rushed on antiga.
Really they should hire me for consulting xD


You mean terminus right?
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
Fishgle
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2174 Posts
September 27 2011 10:02 GMT
#550
On September 27 2011 18:59 snafoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 18:57 Pajegetc wrote:
On September 27 2011 18:56 Alpina wrote:
On September 27 2011 18:54 Maghetti wrote:
Why is Losira the only guy who can't defend the 2 rax right with his drones?


You watched the game? How in the hell are you going to kill 4 marines which are stading behind the building bunker?


Scout more maybe? This seems to be a common problem with Losira's early ZvT. You'd think he would become prepared for it by now. It's his own fault.


did you watch the game??? he did scout.................... its proxy 2 rax near losira against hatch first, pretty much dead


Once he saw that there was nothing in ganzi's base, he still had about 10 seconds before the scv reached his natural to build the bunker. HE could have easily pulled 10 drones and stopped the bunker rush, but he didn't. Losira deserved to lose that game. You can't afford to be greedy and only pull 3drones against something that can kill you.
aka ChillyGonzalo / GnozL
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
September 27 2011 10:02 GMT
#551
On September 27 2011 19:01 eviltomahawk wrote:
Anyways, I have a feeling that perhaps DRG or Dimaga could have handled that rush a bit better. IM Zergs REALLY need to step up their ZvT, as they are definitely weaker in that matchup.


You'd think having the best zerg in the world on your team to practice and learn from would help you in that regard...
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Termit
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3466 Posts
September 27 2011 10:02 GMT
#552
On September 27 2011 18:58 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 18:55 Termit wrote:
On September 27 2011 18:53 sitromit wrote:
Looks like the 5 seconds to Barracks stopped 11/11 right cold!...

Well, was it suppose to stop Terran for punishing greedy zergs?


Blizzard said they made the change because of 11/11, so yeah...

So Zerg players can be greedy and go 14/15 hatch first? I doubt it.
( ̄。 ̄)~zzz ◕ ◡ ◕
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
September 27 2011 10:02 GMT
#553
On September 27 2011 19:00 snafoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 18:59 MrCon wrote:
Everyone is proxying 2 raxes on antiga.
Everyone is bunker rushing Losira because he always take way too much damage from this.
And still the IM house/coach/players didn't told Losira that perhaps he'll get proxy bunker rushed on antiga.
Really they should hire me for consulting xD


that wasnt antiga....

Oops omg :D
When I see the game in my head I still think it was antiga :o
I'll just go to a corner and shut up;
antihero_
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands494 Posts
September 27 2011 10:02 GMT
#554
July is going to wreck ganzi!
Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
September 27 2011 10:02 GMT
#555
(Z)July <Metalopolis> (T)GanZi
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setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
September 27 2011 10:02 GMT
#556
On September 27 2011 18:59 Alpina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 18:57 Pajegetc wrote:
On September 27 2011 18:56 Alpina wrote:
On September 27 2011 18:54 Maghetti wrote:
Why is Losira the only guy who can't defend the 2 rax right with his drones?


You watched the game? How in the hell are you going to kill 4 marines which are stading behind the building bunker?


Scout more maybe? This seems to be a common problem with Losira's early ZvT. You'd think he would become prepared for it by now. It's his own fault.


How are you going to prepare for it? Ofc you can go 14/14 but that has shitty economy that's why zergs are trying to go hatch first.

Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 18:57 setzer wrote:
All Losira had to do was go to his closest watchtower and it is a free win.


Free win? And what he could have done? Magically build pool 1 minute earlier?


1) recognize its an 11/11 or whatever double proxy instead of a single
2) send more drones out
3) cancel hatchery if confidence is low

You act like defending this is impossible if you open hatch first. It's not, you just have to play more intelligently.
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
September 27 2011 10:02 GMT
#557
On September 27 2011 19:01 Probe1 wrote:
Nice to see the live report thread is back to its usual self. 8 people theorycrafting, 2 people balance whining, 1 person that acts with authority about something he has no idea about and a whole lot of No votes on games that were entertaining.

Welcome back guys, we missed you.


+1 guy counting the number of people in the live report thread.

Nice to see you too Proberto
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SuperFanBoy
Profile Joined June 2011
New Zealand1068 Posts
September 27 2011 10:02 GMT
#558
JULY can and will devour every nerd in his way.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10660 Posts
September 27 2011 10:03 GMT
#559
wow that really is a cape, i always thought it was a jacket, and he didnt put the sleeves in....
Skol
freewareplayer
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany403 Posts
September 27 2011 10:03 GMT
#560
July just needs to 6 pool / baneling bust him and everything is just
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