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Korea (South)84 Posts
News on GOMTV.net: http://www.gomtv.net/2011aol/news/66124
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United States210 Posts
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United States1360 Posts
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Grettin
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Those who whined that they didn't get anything for 1 year anniversay, i guess they can sleep well enough after hearing this. "As a special present we will issue the premium ticket for free to all our loyal supporters who have bought every season ticket since Open Season 1 until now (including GSL October):" e. And oh no, HuK's group. I feel you man! | ||
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LostBLuE
Canada188 Posts
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
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Antoine
United States7481 Posts
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chinstrap
United Kingdom253 Posts
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HuKPOWA
United States1604 Posts
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vl3tbol
Australia37 Posts
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
<3 Chae | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4501 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:18 Canucklehead wrote: Very nice. Though adding trickster is an odd choice. Someone like puzzle would have been better. Even though I've been biggest Trickster fan since beta. I agree. Guess Puzzles 'social' status in Korea hasn't made as much of an impact as Ki-Soo's. | ||
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Erionn
United States1015 Posts
Oh well, only $5. Looks like it'll be great. | ||
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anonymitylol
Canada4477 Posts
SlayerS_BoxeR oGsMC IMLosirA IMMvp EGHuK MVPDongRaeGu SlayerS_MMA Dignitas.NaNiwa StarTaleJuly MarineKingPrime.WE StarTale_TricKsteR One of these does not belong... | ||
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snowbird
Germany2044 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:21 Erionn wrote: I have every ticket but season 1 ;_; Oh well, only $5. Looks like it'll be great. You could still buy it now ,) | ||
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unoriginalname
England380 Posts
Group A looks super stacked, hopefully NesTea has worked on his ZvT so he can beat MMA's insane aggression. NaNiWa looks to have a relatively easy group, so who knows, perhaps a foreigner can advance to the play-offs. On September 09 2011 14:22 anonymitylol wrote: StarTale_TricKsteR One of these does not belong... I was thinking the same. Well one bad egg in a fantastic line-up can be forgiven. Though I wish Tastosis was casting. After hearing Moletrap and DOA cast Code S players, it really grates on your nerves that they don't seem to be as hype about their play as Artosis, especially concerning NesTea. | ||
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DrBoo
Canada1177 Posts
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CuSToM
United States1478 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:22 anonymitylol wrote: IMNesTea SlayerS_BoxeR oGsMC IMLosirA IMMvp EGHuK MVPDongRaeGu SlayerS_MMA Dignitas.NaNiwa StarTaleJuly MarineKingPrime.WE StarTale_TricKsteR One of these does not belong... Yeah, like maybe the guy who has never won a game in Code A before. | ||
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Antoine
United States7481 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:20 Xeris wrote: what's the prize for this? looks amazing ! <3 Chae 1st: $1880 2nd: $940 3rd-4th: $470 5th-8th: $282 | ||
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sitromit
7051 Posts
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Frogsox
Australia274 Posts
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Antoine
United States7481 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:23 sitromit wrote: Isn't DRG supposed to be in Valencia on Sept 17th? How will he play in this? Schedule: 2011/09/17 Group A 2011/09/18 Group B 2011/09/24 Group C 2011/09/25 Group D 2011/10/01 Semifinal 2011/10/02 Final | ||
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ReaperX
Hong Kong1758 Posts
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anonymitylol
Canada4477 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:23 CuSToM wrote: Yeah, like maybe the guy who has never won a game in Code A before. Seriously though, why choose Tester over Hongun? Hongun is the most consistent Code S Protoss. He got shafted. | ||
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Frogsox
Australia274 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:23 sitromit wrote: Isn't DRG supposed to be in Valencia on Sept 17th? How will he play in this? Huk is going as well. So I'm as interested as you are. If I'm not wrong this is an online event so maybe they'll simply play their games from Europe? EDIT: Go back a couple of posts and disregard my response. | ||
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snowbird
Germany2044 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:20 Xeris wrote: what's the prize for this? looks amazing ! <3 Chae Prizes: 1st prize: 2.000.000 KRW Runner-up: 1.000.000 KRW Semifinals: 500.000 KRW Group play: 300.000 KRW | ||
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emirp
United States9 Posts
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anonymitylol
Canada4477 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:25 snowbird wrote: Prizes: 1st prize: 2.000.000 KRW Runner-up: 1.000.000 KRW Semifinals: 500.000 KRW Group play: 300.000 KRW Get paid for just getting selected? Nice  | ||
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The_Puf
United States4 Posts
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
AWESOME! Way to go GOM for making yet ANOTHER tournament in Korea to do away with "All there is in Korea is the GSL." Now we got the weekly icCup (now ESV TV & GOM TV partner) AND AOL! | ||
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BoomNasty
United States265 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:22 anonymitylol wrote: IMNesTea SlayerS_BoxeR oGsMC IMLosirA IMMvp EGHuK MVPDongRaeGu SlayerS_MMA Dignitas.NaNiwa StarTaleJuly MarineKingPrime.WE StarTale_TricKsteR One of these does not belong... its hard to come by 4 protoss players to make each group have a P, T, and Z. And anyway, hes not awful | ||
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Frogsox
Australia274 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:26 anonymitylol wrote: Get paid for just getting selected? Nice It's not much, so I'd definitely be busting to try and take the top prize. | ||
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SpikeNeedle
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On September 09 2011 14:24 anonymitylol wrote: Seriously though, why choose Tester over Hongun? Hongun is the most consistent Code S Protoss. He got shafted. It was chosen by a popularity contest in GOM, we chose these guys not GOMTV. | ||
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anonymitylol
Canada4477 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:28 Frogsox wrote: It's not much, so I'd definitely be busting to try and take the top prize. Still though, about $250 just for being selected. That's a pretty good deal either way. | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
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Oboeman
Canada3980 Posts
No hongun? this is sick; pretty much just a korean invitational, and solves the problem of no one buying passes for gomtvt next season. | ||
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nekoconeco
Australia359 Posts
Group A is going to be awesome to watch. | ||
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Frogsox
Australia274 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:28 SpikeNeedle wrote: It was chosen by a popularity contest in GOM, we chose these guys not GOMTV. The fan vote was for the GSL All-Star game this weekend before the Code S finals. This AOL Competition is not linked to the fan vote, I believe. | ||
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HyruleanTubist
United States189 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:28 SpikeNeedle wrote: It was chosen by a popularity contest in GOM, we chose these guys not GOMTV. Who is "we" here? Was it the audience at the studio, or somewhere online? Either way, super excited for this tournament! | ||
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
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Frogsox
Australia274 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:29 Oboeman wrote: What? No hongun? this is sick; pretty much just a korean invitational, and solves the problem of no one buying passes for gomtvt next season. This is news to me? -_-" Since when did everyone in the world decide en-mass to not buy tickets? | ||
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dala
Sweden477 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:22 anonymitylol wrote: IMNesTea SlayerS_BoxeR oGsMC IMLosirA IMMvp EGHuK MVPDongRaeGu SlayerS_MMA Dignitas.NaNiwa StarTaleJuly MarineKingPrime.WE StarTale_TricKsteR One of these does not belong... I mean, he is perhaps now as beloved as the rest of the guys, but he has been talked about for a long time. | ||
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Patate
Canada441 Posts
Semi Finals: Nestea, Losira, MVP, July Finals: Nestea vs MVP Winner: MVP | ||
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farnham
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se7en247
United States487 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:22 anonymitylol wrote: IMNesTea SlayerS_BoxeR oGsMC IMLosirA IMMvp EGHuK MVPDongRaeGu SlayerS_MMA Dignitas.NaNiwa StarTaleJuly MarineKingPrime.WE StarTale_TricKsteR One of these does not belong... imo he belongs more than naniwa. Group A is crazy. Looks like it will be an awesome tournament. | ||
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.MadHaT
Canada76 Posts
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sitromit
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farnham
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On September 09 2011 14:32 Frogsox wrote: This is news to me? -_-" Since when did everyone in the world decide en-mass to not buy tickets? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=263469 | ||
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Grettin
42381 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:33 farnham wrote: where is nada ? Community voted for the players afaik? Still would have loved to see Nada there, but sick enough lineup already.  | ||
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Aegeis
United States1619 Posts
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Polarexia
United States383 Posts
Tester fighting!!! | ||
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grandmoose
United States160 Posts
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Skoop
United States214 Posts
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hatespam
Romania161 Posts
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Frogsox
Australia274 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:33 .MadHaT wrote: Anyone want to fill me in on the status of Naniwa and how he's been playing? Haven't been following the Korean scene too closely, wondering if his inclusion is warranted. Has his recent play seen vast improvements over his excellent, albeit maybe not Korean-esque, past? Artosis was saying on State of the Game this week that he thinks with all the hard work Naniwa is putting in at the moment he's going to bust out and really turn it on in the near future. He went on to say that at the moment he may not be ready yet though to show what he's really got though (ie, he's not going to win Dreamhack Valencia). Also, his inclusion is akin to BoxeR's in my mind. It's a pick that appeals to the European audience. Besides, Naniwa is a great player. | ||
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
This is insane, and such a great piece of news to see while sitting here watching IPL #3 Qualifiers, being hyped about IPL 3, stoked about going to MLG Orlando, ESV(icCup) Partnering with Code A, GSL Finals this weekend, and seeing [SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER] Taeja make Code S via VoD's just now. Such a great week for Starcraft 2 and e-Sports in general. Once again, GOM has earned more of my money, keep up the great work guys. EDIT: Good question, will we be able to Liquibet this "season"? Also, for anyone curious this is NOT the All-Star match that the players get voted on by the community, this is a totally different event. | ||
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Frogsox
Australia274 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:34 farnham wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=263469 So a percentage of the TL community decided they weren't going to buy tickets? Meh. Whatever. | ||
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Frogsox
Australia274 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:34 Grettin wrote: Community voted for the players afaik? Still would have loved to see Nada there, but sick enough lineup already. Not a community vote. That was for the All Star Match this Saturday before the Code S final. | ||
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Corran
United States83 Posts
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Dumboprime
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GhostFall
United States830 Posts
Because I find a tournament with forced racial equality like this a complete farce. | ||
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Advocado
Denmark994 Posts
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Gov
United States121 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:34 Grettin wrote: Community voted for the players afaik? Still would have loved to see Nada there, but sick enough lineup already. I don't think it was voted by the community. If it was then nada would have been 100% in... | ||
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Frogsox
Australia274 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:37 VirgilSC2 wrote: I will be buying my ticket for this AND GSL October as soon as I get paid tomorrow. This is insane, and such a great piece of news to see while sitting here watching IPL #3 Qualifiers, being hyped about IPL 3, stoked about going to MLG Orlando, ESV(icCup) Partnering with Code A, GSL Finals this weekend, and seeing [SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER] Taeja make Code S via VoD's just now. Such a great week for Starcraft 2 and e-Sports in general. Once again, GOM has earned more of my money, keep up the great work guys. I hear you. I've got tickets for both of them (no ads for me either). I can't get enough SC2. | ||
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BigKahunaBurger
Australia334 Posts
And once again, TSL_Killer is robbed of his rightful throne! | ||
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entocheets
Australia367 Posts
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Grettin
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On September 09 2011 14:38 Frogsox wrote: Not a community vote. That was for the All Star Match this Saturday before the Code S final. Ah, thanks for correcting me. But anyway, still sick line up, so.. | ||
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Frogsox
Australia274 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:39 Advocado wrote: Damn would have liked to see Thorzain in this :< He would have bossed it up with the preparation for each round. It would have been nice, but I think there are too many Korean Terrans who would be ahead of him in the queue, even if he was even in Korea right now. Naniwa's inclusion was easier to justify though with his good tournament finishes and the lack of depth in the Protoss pool at the moment. | ||
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duck.fit
United States241 Posts
. I like that the groups are ZvTvP | ||
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:37 Frogsox wrote: My thoughts exactly, them not buying tickets won't stop me from doing it. Buying a ticket not only offers you plenty of other features, but supports the continuous growth of e-Sports.So a percentage of the TL community decided they weren't going to buy tickets? Meh. Whatever. | ||
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unoriginalname
England380 Posts
Therefore I hope nobody is going to whinge when they're knocked out. As for MC, the competition he faces is immense, so again I hope nobody complains when no Protoss can get through to the play-offs. | ||
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TooN
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On September 09 2011 14:22 anonymitylol wrote: IMNesTea SlayerS_BoxeR oGsMC IMLosirA IMMvp EGHuK MVPDongRaeGu SlayerS_MMA Dignitas.NaNiwa StarTaleJuly MarineKingPrime.WE StarTale_TricKsteR One of these does not belong... How does naniwa belong but not trickster? | ||
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Trickstaloki
United States164 Posts
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EMPaThy789
New Zealand878 Posts
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jimchoi11
United States65 Posts
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:41 Frogsox wrote: It would have been nice, but I think there are too many Korean Terrans who would be ahead of him in the queue, even if he was even in Korea right now. Naniwa's inclusion was easier to justify though with his good tournament finishes and the lack of depth in the Protoss pool at the moment. Exactly. ThorZain would have to be "ranked" ahead of the likes of Bomber, Taeja, GanZi, Ryung, Keen, TOP, etc. As much as I love ThorZain, I'd much rather have a player like Bomber or Taeja (love the little dude) | ||
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Zealot Lord
Hong Kong747 Posts
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MechKing
United States3004 Posts
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:42 jimchoi11 wrote: gomtv thinks they are smart but i have my ways to watching it for free bwhahahaha Quit ruining e-Sports. | ||
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
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Frogsox
Australia274 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:39 GhostFall wrote: sooo if Code S didn't have 20/32 players as Terran would this even be an idea for a tournament? Because I find a tournament with forced racial equality like this a complete farce. I completely agree. People complaining about racial imbalance in the Code S/Code A need to realise that this isn't something that Gom can just wave a wand at. It's all to do with the players picking their races and training to the best of their ability. Besides, Zerg went through a dip before and they've come out of it. It's like someone complaining that they won't watch the NFL because their team stinks (and implying it's all the NFL's fault). It's more likely that their team isn't spending their money wise, drafting well or hiring the right coaches and staff. | ||
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AGM-Hellfire
United States84 Posts
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Ebert
Canada24 Posts
But does their special include GSTL's Too ? I've bought every season, besides the GSTL's | ||
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Skipton
United States707 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:44 AGM-Hellfire wrote: No puma or hero sad Yea, this would have been more optimal. | ||
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Lamphead
Canada241 Posts
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:45 Ebert wrote: I wonder if Gom can reply to my question here.... But does their special include GSTL's Too ? I've bought every season, besides the GSTL's http://www.gomtv.net/2011aol/news/66124 If you scroll down, it has a list of seasons that DOES include the GSTL's. Sorry  | ||
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nicknt
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Ben...
Canada3485 Posts
Just bought it. Super excited as always. | ||
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MattsEffect
United States15 Posts
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mrRoflpwn
United States2618 Posts
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:37 Frogsox wrote: So a percentage of the TL community decided they weren't going to buy tickets? Meh. Whatever. Agree, why even compare it to MLG ? Anyway looking great love the groups and players for the pick, nice to see more and more korean sc2 tourney's poping up. | ||
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Frogsox
Australia274 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:45 Lamphead wrote: not saying that tournament organizers always seem to rig the bracket for my boy Boxer buuuuut... He does have a nice bracket. But at the same time I wouldn't count out Naniwa or July. July didn't have the hardest road this season, but he really showed some improvement in his overall game I thought. And Naniwa is capable of anything, especially since he's now been in Korea for almost a month and will surely have improved in leaps and bounds. | ||
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Diizzy
United States828 Posts
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MoriyaGXP
Korea (South)240 Posts
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modesttoss
United States221 Posts
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Frogsox
Australia274 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:48 MattsEffect wrote: Gom is just scared of losing viewers now that GSL is just TvTvTvTvT between all of the nameless generic terrans in there. Or maybe they just wanted to add even more great content? | ||
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zeOllie
Australia486 Posts
guess ill stick to results.... and also trickster. why? lol :p | ||
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shawster
Canada2485 Posts
hell i'd pay 5$ just to see group a | ||
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nicknt
185 Posts
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Frogsox
Australia274 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:50 MoriyaGXP wrote: lol Nada didn't get pick, that's suprised Maybe they asked him and he declined? Besides, MKP, MVP and MMA have all won tournaments (albeit some overseas) and made it deeper into tournaments than NaDa ever has. I would have liked to have seen NaDa as well, but it's not a big deal since the other Terrans are pretty damn awesome anwyway. | ||
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GetToDaChopa
United States206 Posts
If GOM's viewer #'s are dropping(I paid/watched for the first 3 seasons, now i don't watch GOM at all) then I think this would be a good idea if it were free and in HQ. Also, several friends I have who follow SC2 don't care to watch GOM anymore because they don't want to pay(oh well) and in their words, 'that free stream is a blurry mess'. They still watch SC2, just not GOM. So, I guess I'm just wishing for a miracle and that GOM somehow found a way to get sponsorship from a 'foreign' company(ies) to stream their content in hq for free so we can avoid the blurry mess syndrome. | ||
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Laneir
United States1160 Posts
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Rarak
Australia631 Posts
Trickster however? as a Protoss.. I think there are more deserving players.. although I guess that says the state of toss. | ||
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Frogsox
Australia274 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:51 zeOllie wrote: t_t awesome tournament but seriously, why wont you give us any options for people who cannot buy the tickets for multiple reasons? A big reason why many people dont like gom is because they pricetag everything they see, whereas every other major sc2 tournament gives a free option. guess ill stick to results.... and also trickster. why? lol :p I can't speak to the reason you can't afford a $5 ticket, that's your business. However, they have been offering a live, free option for all their other events and even did the World Championship tournament for free so that people might use the money they might have paid for it to donate to the relief cause in Japan. Pretty damn selfish of them, no -_-" | ||
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:51 zeOllie wrote: t_t awesome tournament but seriously, why wont you give us any options for people who cannot buy the tickets for multiple reasons? A big reason why many people dont like gom is because they pricetag everything they see, whereas every other major sc2 tournament gives a free option. guess ill stick to results.... and also trickster. why? lol :p $5 is hardly going to break the bank for ANYONE. If you don't have a bank account/pay pal, find a friend who does and hand him $5, if you don't have $5, borrow it, can't borrow any, find a drunk and steal it from him. | ||
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frogrubdown
1266 Posts
A: MMA B: Losira C: MVP D: Naniwa | ||
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nicknt
185 Posts
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Rarak
Australia631 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:51 nicknt wrote: this is not a prestigious tournament, winner only gets like 2k. Look at the players.. It could become a very prestigious tournament over time. Its hard to make any first time event prestigious, regardless of the prize pool (see nasl). | ||
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Gentso
United States2218 Posts
You've got it backwards... giving money to GomTV supports their company, and not so much eSports. I support quality free events like MLG by watching their ads. Paying money and providing more incentive for PPV tournaments is a step backwards. | ||
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:55 VirgilSC2 wrote: $5 is hardly going to break the bank for ANYONE. If you don't have a bank account/pay pal, find a friend who does and hand him $5, if you don't have $5, borrow it, can't borrow any, find a drunk and steal it from him. Yeah man, $5 is less than I spend on lunch. Great value. I always buy the ad versions cause I don't find the ads to be that invasive so always better to save money by watching them. | ||
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Angelbelow
United States3728 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:22 anonymitylol wrote: IMNesTea SlayerS_BoxeR oGsMC IMLosirA IMMvp EGHuK MVPDongRaeGu SlayerS_MMA Dignitas.NaNiwa StarTaleJuly MarineKingPrime.WE StarTale_TricKsteR One of these does not belong... Naniwa is one of my favorites but you can argue that he doesnt deserve the spot anymore then Trickster or even Boxer does. With that said, cant complain with this lineup. | ||
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Rarak
Australia631 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:55 nicknt wrote: It's disappointing that GOMTV had to enforce racial equality by adding Trickster and Naniwa and leaving out great players like Bomber and Polt. You have a point, but Boxer and MMA to some extent are taking their spots. People want to see more than tvt. | ||
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Frogsox
Australia274 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:53 GetToDaChopa wrote: At first I thought, 'oh damn GOM is trying to attract more ppl with a kickass free hq tournament finally', but they're not. In fact they're going the complete opposite route, making it available to only the premium users(people who give GOM their $). If GOM's viewer #'s are dropping(I paid/watched for the first 3 seasons, now i don't watch GOM at all) then I think this would be a good idea if it were free and in HQ. Also, several friends I have who follow SC2 don't care to watch GOM anymore because they don't want to pay(oh well) and in their words, 'that free stream is a blurry mess'. They still watch SC2, just not GOM. So, I guess I'm just wishing for a miracle and that GOM somehow found a way to get sponsorship from a 'foreign' company(ies) to stream their content in hq for free so we can avoid the blurry mess syndrome. I can't say I agree with that at all. I don't know why people are so tight that they think they should get everything for free irregardless of the cost to the provider. Doesn't anyone sit and think for a second about the money that it would cost to run the GSL (pay the casters, technical and back room staff, production staff, pay for the equipment, offices etc)? I don't know why anyone would think that people should just be giving things away for free in spite of the costs it takes to bring it to them. Besides, I want to support Esports, so I'm happy to pay for my content knowing that it's going towards future tournaments and ensuring that there will be more of them. Hence I pay for my ESL, MLG, GOM etc and am happy to do so. | ||
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NExt
Australia1651 Posts
Woot, more top korean content. gl hf EGHuK | ||
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Karliath
United States2214 Posts
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opticalza
New Zealand188 Posts
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Skipton
United States707 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:57 Gentso wrote: You've got it backwards... giving money to GomTV supports their company, and not so much eSports. I support quality free events like MLG by watching their ads. Paying money and providing more incentive for PPV tournaments is a step backwards. A step backwards? Are you implying that Esports would be better off if nobody paid for subscriptions for any tournaments? | ||
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nicknt
185 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:59 Angelbelow wrote: Naniwa is one of my favorites but you can argue that he doesnt deserve the spot anymore then Trickster or even Boxer does. With that said, cant complain with this lineup. Boxer is THE legend and Naniwa I can understand has the foreigner appeal. They could have at least invited better protosses over Trickster like Genius, Puzzle, or Hongun. Hell even Inca has accomplished more than Trickster. | ||
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thepeonwhocould
Australia334 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:51 zeOllie wrote: t_t awesome tournament but seriously, why wont you give us any options for people who cannot buy the tickets for multiple reasons? A big reason why many people dont like gom is because they pricetag everything they see, whereas every other major sc2 tournament gives a free option. guess ill stick to results.... and also trickster. why? lol :p If you can't afford $5 for 10+ hours of entertainment you have financial issues.. | ||
Parapa
Korea (South)33 Posts
I will make it better and spread e-sports to all the world! | ||
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Merany
France890 Posts
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Keifru
United States179 Posts
I need to scrape some dosh together now... | ||
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Frogsox
Australia274 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:56 Rarak wrote: Look at the players.. It could become a very prestigious tournament over time. Its hard to make any first time event prestigious, regardless of the prize pool (see nasl). There's more to prestige than just the money. The winner of this tournament is going to know that they are a serious bad-ass since they came through some of the most amazing players in the world to take the crown. And for the amount of games they have to play and the time frame of the tournament it's a pretty decent pay day. | ||
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John Madden
American Samoa894 Posts
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ThaZenith
Canada3116 Posts
It would be a miracle if HuK could win his group, but here's hoping. | ||
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tuho12345
4482 Posts
Anyway nice to see Naniwa. Hope he could take some games off. Group A is really nice. Finally we can see MC vs Nestea, but not in a really good shape MC. | ||
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Garnet
Vietnam9021 Posts
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:02 Parapa wrote: haha if this first our new tournament AOL works well! then it will happen again! and we can invite more players whom you want! support us please! I will make it better and spread e-sports to all the world! Great job over at GOM, and very good job keeping this fairly under-wrap I had no idea this was coming. Instant purchase for me tomorrow! | ||
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:02 Parapa wrote: haha if this first our new tournament AOL works well! then it will happen again! and we can invite more players whom you want! support us please! I will make it better and spread e-sports to all the world! I will support you forever! Been buying a gom ticket since season 3. Well worth the money. Keep up the great work! | ||
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Robonord
United States311 Posts
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Suigentoo
United Kingdom3 Posts
Truly the cancer of "esports" and you morons just eat it up. I understand I will get flamed and my post most likely nuked but this is the damn truth. Guess I'm just not important enough because I won't fork over all my money to GOM. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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NationInArms
United States1553 Posts
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Frogsox
Australia274 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:00 Skipton wrote: A step backwards? Are you implying that Esports would be better off if nobody paid for subscriptions for any tournaments? I found this to be very confusing as well. The reality is that Esports is a growing market and it needs money to support it in the hope that it might eventually make it into a more mainstream place where they can eventually go to a fully free model. However, the reality is that I think Esports is a niche (and SC2 a niche within a niche) and the pay to watch model is going to be around for a long, long time. Anyway, where do people think the money for the monthly, 5 day a week GSL tournaments is coming from? | ||
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roronoe
Canada1527 Posts
The lineup is fine....but debatable nada should be in there for legend status and consistent gsl results. | ||
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:04 Suigentoo wrote: With-holding events just because I don't pay? What a joke. First they try and force their shitty propriety player on you and now they say "no pay, no watch". Truly the cancer of "esports" and you morons just eat it up. I understand I will get flamed and my post most likely nuked but this is the damn truth. Guess I'm just not important enough because I won't fork over all my money to GOM. If $5 is all of your money, you have more problems than not being able to watch Arena of Legends. Since I WILL be paying the $5, I'll try to LR as often as possible for those that are unable to/don't want to pay the small fee. | ||
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theBizness
United States696 Posts
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Frogsox
Australia274 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:04 Suigentoo wrote: With-holding events just because I don't pay? What a joke. First they try and force their shitty propriety player on you and now they say "no pay, no watch". Truly the cancer of "esports" and you morons just eat it up. I understand I will get flamed and my post most likely nuked but this is the damn truth. Guess I'm just not important enough because I won't fork over all my money to GOM. That's your opinion. I happen to disagree. | ||
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Gentso
United States2218 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:00 Skipton wrote: A step backwards? Are you implying that Esports would be better off if nobody paid for subscriptions for any tournaments? WOW can you stop trying to put words into my mouth? I'm implying esports would be better if everything had a free stream. I see MLG is doing just fine and expanding quite quickly with free stream/VODs. Furthermore, $5 isn't a lot but all of these things add up. Especially if you're paying for more than tournament. I want to support esports, but not by having to pay to watch in the first place. The worst thing about these things is that they don't help esports grow so much as they maintain status quo. I got my friends into Starcraft by showing them MLG while it was on. | ||
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NExt
Australia1651 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:02 Parapa wrote: haha if this first our new tournament AOL works well! then it will happen again! and we can invite more players whom you want! support us please! I will make it better and spread e-sports to all the world! Something tells me you want us to BUY SOME SHIRTS :D | ||
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movac
Canada494 Posts
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
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Doko
Argentina1737 Posts
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thepeonwhocould
Australia334 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:04 Suigentoo wrote: With-holding events just because I don't pay? What a joke. First they try and force their shitty propriety player on you and now they say "no pay, no watch". Truly the cancer of "esports" and you morons just eat it up. I understand I will get flamed and my post most likely nuked but this is the damn truth. Guess I'm just not important enough because I won't fork over all my money to GOM. Actually, paid content is something that is going to keep this industry alive. Basically sounds like you are just upset because you can't afford the price of a cheeseburger in order to watch a 10 hour++ tournament.. If it wasn't for GomTV, the entire korean scene as we know it probably wouldn't exist. Teams formed precicesley because of GomTV's SC2 tournaments... | ||
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Dantat
170 Posts
This seems interesting though, I'll buy a pass. Not sure about GSL October though ; / | ||
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lim1017
Canada1278 Posts
I see MMA>Nestea MC> MMA Nestea>MC Each player is 1:1... How does that work? If they each play each other again and the same score happens... | ||
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ShootingStars
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SpaceToaster
United States289 Posts
Then again, they are all on about the same level (with July fairly ahead of the other two, but not so much so as to stomp them), so it will produce great games in the group stage. It just seems whoever makes it out of that group isn't making it through the semi's. Would have loved to see Nada in, shame they only had room for 4 Terrans. | ||
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Skipton
United States707 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:08 Gentso wrote: WOW can you stop trying to put words into my mouth? I'm implying esports would be better if everything had a free stream. I see MLG is doing just fine and expanding quite quickly with free stream/VODs. Furthermore, $5 isn't a lot but all of these things add up. Especially if you're paying for more than tournament. I want to support esports, but not by having to pay to watch in the first place. The worst thing about these things is that they don't help esports grow so much as they maintain status quo. I got my friends into Starcraft by showing them MLG while it was on. MLG is also doing "just fine" because they have a service in which people pay money. If nobody paid money for MLG passes, they would be in deep shit real quick. I don't know what to tell you if you honestly believe that paying money for a tournament is something that doesn't have a positive effect. | ||
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Frogsox
Australia274 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:08 Gentso wrote: WOW can you stop trying to put words into my mouth? I'm implying esports would be better if everything had a free stream. I see MLG is doing just fine and expanding quite quickly with free stream/VODs. Furthermore, $5 isn't a lot but all of these things add up. Especially if you're paying for more than tournament. I want to support esports, but not by having to pay to watch in the first place. The worst thing about these things is that they don't help esports grow so much as they maintain status quo. I got my friends into Starcraft by showing them MLG while it was on. I would be remiss if I didn't mention the TOTALLY FREE World Championship tournament they held as well as all the free streams they've shown over the past year. I don't see a 6 day, short form tournament with a stacked line up being a particularly huge issue in the long run. | ||
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khellian
Korea (South)922 Posts
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theBizness
United States696 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:08 Gentso wrote: WOW can you stop trying to put words into my mouth? I'm implying esports would be better if everything had a free stream. I see MLG is doing just fine and expanding quite quickly with free stream/VODs. Furthermore, $5 isn't a lot but all of these things add up. Especially if you're paying for more than tournament. I want to support esports, but not by having to pay to watch in the first place. The worst thing about these things is that they don't help esports grow so much as they maintain status quo. I got my friends into Starcraft by showing them MLG while it was on. It's ONE SMALL tournament. They aren't getting rid of their normal process, you know, the free content that's on 6 days a week. Instead of them "punishing" you for not paying, maybe they're trying to reward loyal customers and *gasp* make a few bucks? Hopes and dreams don't pay the rent. | ||
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Frogsox
Australia274 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:10 thepeonwhocould wrote: Actually, paid content is something that is going to keep this industry alive. Basically sounds like you are just upset because you can't afford the price of a cheeseburger in order to watch a 10 hour++ tournament.. If it wasn't for GomTV, the entire korean scene as we know it probably wouldn't exist. Teams formed precicesley because of GomTV's SC2 tournaments... I bet if everyone looked at the movies they've gone to the cinema to see they'd realise that this is amazing value. I've seen some horrible movies this year that cost more than the ticket for this season. I happen to think this is great value. I paid more to see The Mechanic, and it was terrible. | ||
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etrensce
Australia337 Posts
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Gentso
United States2218 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:12 Skipton wrote: MLG is also doing "just fine" because they have a service in which people pay money. If nobody paid money for MLG passes, they would be in deep shit real quick. I don't know what to tell you if you honestly believe that paying money for a tournament is something that doesn't have a positive effect. Obviously. And they also have sponsors and advertisements. And again, did I say that paying money doesn't yield positive effect? No. If a tournament provides a free stream and you can afford and want to buy the HQ that's great. Personally, I choose to support by watching advertisements. | ||
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
MLG has much more income from sponsors due to having other games on their lineup, while GOM does not. Look at NASL, adding HoN to bring in more viewers/money. GOM is just taking a different path, charging a small amount/rewarding their loyal fans. I for one don't mind shelling out a few $$$ a month for semi-HQ Starcraft, amazing VoDs, and supporting the scene. I bought a NASL Season 2 subscription too, because I <3 e-Sports, and I <3 Starcraft 2. | ||
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theBizness
United States696 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:16 Gentso wrote: Obviously. And they also have sponsors and advertisements. And again, did I say that paying money doesn't yield positive effect? No. If a tournament provides a free stream and you can afford and want to buy the HQ that's great. Personally, I choose to support by watching advertisements. By watching advertisements, you mean muting the stream and watching the other one right? | ||
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sitromit
7051 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:09 movac wrote: If they're gonna pick players on popularity because they're old school like July and Boxer they might as well replace MMA with NaDa. Also as far as good protoss, they should replace Trickster with Puzzle. July's not simply old school, he's also the most successful Zerg in GSL after Nestea. | ||
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Suigentoo
United Kingdom3 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:10 thepeonwhocould wrote: Actually, paid content is something that is going to keep this industry alive. Basically sounds like you are just upset because you can't afford the price of a cheeseburger in order to watch a 10 hour++ tournament.. If it wasn't for GomTV, the entire korean scene as we know it probably wouldn't exist. Teams formed precicesley because of GomTV's SC2 tournaments... I'm perfectly fine with watching the dirt stream and I was perfectly happy to pay for gold membership to watch MLG because they don't force me to watch it on a crappy, Windows only propriety player. All they are doing is restricting viewership and essentially hurting ESPORTS. Ah, what's the point of arguing anyway, it's not like you'll see my logic with your blind fanboy-ism. Looks like I'll just be downloading the HD VODS from elsewhere as usual then | ||
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Skipton
United States707 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:16 Gentso wrote: Obviously. And they also have sponsors and advertisements. And again, did I say that paying money doesn't yield positive effect? No. If a tournament provides a free stream and you can afford and want to buy the HQ that's great. Personally, I choose to support by watching advertisements. "A step backwards" implies a negative effect. If GOM wants to experiment with something new here by having a CHEAP paid only stream, than they clearly have the right to do so. | ||
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LXR
357 Posts
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Frogsox
Australia274 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:18 VirgilSC2 wrote: People seem to forget that MLG charges at least $20 to view in person, while GOM lets you into their Mokdong Studio for free. MLG has much more income from sponsors due to having other games on their lineup, while GOM does not. Look at NASL, adding HoN to bring in more viewers/money. GOM is just taking a different path, charging a small amount/rewarding their loyal fans. I for one don't mind shelling out a few $$$ a month for semi-HQ Starcraft, amazing VoDs, and supporting the scene. I bought a NASL Season 2 subscription too, because I <3 e-Sports, and I <3 Starcraft 2. Not to mention the free pizza, drinks, burgers etc that they routinely hand out to their supporters and the free finals events they hold in large (and not free) locations around South Korea. | ||
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Dantat
170 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:08 Gentso wrote: WOW can you stop trying to put words into my mouth? I'm implying esports would be better if everything had a free stream. I see MLG is doing just fine and expanding quite quickly with free stream/VODs. Furthermore, $5 isn't a lot but all of these things add up. Especially if you're paying for more than tournament. I want to support esports, but not by having to pay to watch in the first place. The worst thing about these things is that they don't help esports grow so much as they maintain status quo. I got my friends into Starcraft by showing them MLG while it was on. Then what do you say to MLG charging for spectator passes when GOM doesn't. Anyways, GOM has free live streams for the GSTL and GSL. It shouldn't be such a negative thing to support them a little if you are able. MLG has a ton more sponsors anyways, and they only have to broadcast for a single weekend compared to GOM which broadcast all month long. | ||
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sitromit
7051 Posts
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JJH777
United States4407 Posts
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Skipton
United States707 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:19 Suigentoo wrote: I'm perfectly fine with watching the dirt stream and I was perfectly happy to pay for gold membership to watch MLG because they don't force me to watch it on a crappy, Windows only propriety player. All they are doing is restricting viewership and essentially hurting ESPORTS. Ah, what's the point of arguing anyway, it's not like you'll see my logic with your blind fanboy-ism. Looks like I'll just be downloading the HD VODS from elsewhere as usual then I don't think anybody actually gives a shit that you made a new account to tell people that you can download cool HD Vods for free, when clearly you're just upset because you don't want to pay 5 fucking dollars. | ||
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firehand101
Australia3152 Posts
go DRG go! | ||
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TwilightRain
Germany351 Posts
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entocheets
Australia367 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:19 Suigentoo wrote: I'm perfectly fine with watching the dirt stream and I was perfectly happy to pay for gold membership to watch MLG because they don't force me to watch it on a crappy, Windows only propriety player. All they are doing is restricting viewership and essentially hurting ESPORTS. Ah, what's the point of arguing anyway, it's not like you'll see my logic with your blind fanboy-ism. Looks like I'll just be downloading the HD VODS from elsewhere as usual then GOM Player now has Mac support, has had it for a while now. (don't understand why you can't open GOM stream links from Firefox in Mac, you have to use Safari but just a minor inconvenience) Also, you're ruining ESPORTS | ||
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Ruscour
5233 Posts
this is seriously printing money for GOM, at least it's cheap | ||
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Frogsox
Australia274 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:19 Suigentoo wrote: I'm perfectly fine with watching the dirt stream and I was perfectly happy to pay for gold membership to watch MLG because they don't force me to watch it on a crappy, Windows only propriety player. All they are doing is restricting viewership and essentially hurting ESPORTS. Ah, what's the point of arguing anyway, it's not like you'll see my logic with your blind fanboy-ism. Looks like I'll just be downloading the HD VODS from elsewhere as usual then I love it that something as small and insignificant as the Gom Player is making you so angry. Also, as soon as someone disagrees with you and has a different opinion to yours they become "fanboys" instead of simply being allowed to disagree with you, that's just disrespectful. QQ | ||
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Frogsox
Australia274 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:22 firehand101 wrote: This is like the all star match in NBA, so sick! go DRG go! Except that the players are going at it 100% and really care about the results of the games... | ||
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dgwow
Canada1024 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:22 anonymitylol wrote: IMNesTea SlayerS_BoxeR oGsMC IMLosirA IMMvp EGHuK MVPDongRaeGu SlayerS_MMA Dignitas.NaNiwa StarTaleJuly MarineKingPrime.WE StarTale_TricKsteR One of these does not belong... I'm pretty sure NaNiwa doesn't belong there either.. we'll have to see ^^ | ||
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sunman1g
United States334 Posts
i'm so excited about this. glad to see GOM is throwing new stuff on the way, it was getting to stagnant. edit: i agree with what some ppl said. i think NaDa deserves it more than some other people.. and Yes I want Puzzle rather than Trickster T.T | ||
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Biane
Australia645 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:04 Suigentoo wrote: With-holding events just because I don't pay? What a joke. First they try and force their shitty propriety player on you and now they say "no pay, no watch". Truly the cancer of "esports" and you morons just eat it up. I understand I will get flamed and my post most likely nuked but this is the damn truth. Guess I'm just not important enough because I won't fork over all my money to GOM. What a way to make a statement, making a new TL account just to post and flame GOM. I'm cheap bastard who hasn't paid for any of the GSL vods at all, just watching the free SQ stream, but I don't go around making new accounts on a forum just to attempt to flame GOM for something they have the right to control. I'm not happy that this event isn't free but hey, I'm the one who isn't prepared to shell out money to watch my favorite players play. This is GOM's tournament, they run it, its their money, they decide what to do with it. I have a right to dislike how it will be run but being a dick isn't helping esports. Thanks for being the cancer of esports Suigentoo. | ||
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SenorChang
Australia4730 Posts
Should be sick :D | ||
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Heatbag
Canada20 Posts
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nekoconeco
Australia359 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:12 ShootingStars wrote: Wow, dang I can't watch it since it's not free... maybe when it becomes free someday heh Which it won't. Your joking right $5 is pretty much free considering the amount of content. Compared to other PPV events in other sports that cost $45+. GomTV wouldn't be sustainable with just ads at this point. It might be possible for destiny to survive from free streaming with ads but not the infrastructure that Gom needs. | ||
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seiferoth10
3362 Posts
Isn't this going backwards? No free stream at all? Doesn't that alienate viewers who aren't committed enough to spend money to watch Starcraft? Seems ass backwards to me. And, guess I'll be watching Dreamhack. I can't support this type of pricing scheme. | ||
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ragealot
432 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:18 theBizness wrote: By watching advertisements, you mean muting the stream and watching the other one right? He doesn't even want to shell out money to see/support something he loves, what are the chances he'll buy the sponsor's product? If you are going to freeload, at least be quiet about it. | ||
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Frogsox
Australia274 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:26 Biane wrote: What a way to make a statement, making a new TL account just to post and flame GOM. I'm cheap bastard who hasn't paid for any of the GSL vods at all, just watching the free SQ stream, but I don't go around making new accounts on a forum just to attempt to flame GOM for something they have the right to control. I'm not happy that this event isn't free but hey, I'm the one who isn't prepared to shell out money to watch my favorite players play. This is GOM's tournament, they run it, its their money, they decide what to do with it. I have a right to dislike how it will be run but being a dick isn't helping esports. Thanks for being the cancer of esports Suigentoo. I respect you so much right now. Seriously, that's one of the most intelligent and honest posts I've ever seen. | ||
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xhkz
Canada34 Posts
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Frogsox
Australia274 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:27 seiferoth10 wrote: So, it's the first ever tournament that has absolutely no free stream, and idiots are eating it up. What? Isn't this going backwards? No free stream at all? Doesn't that alienate viewers who aren't committed enough to spend money to watch Starcraft? Seems ass backwards to me. And, guess I'll be watching Dreamhack. I can't support this type of pricing scheme. Hahahahaha, well played sir. | ||
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nicknt
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sunman1g
United States334 Posts
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:27 seiferoth10 wrote: So, it's the first ever tournament that has absolutely no free stream, and idiots are eating it up. What? Isn't this going backwards? No free stream at all? Doesn't that alienate viewers who aren't committed enough to spend money to watch Starcraft? Seems ass backwards to me. And, guess I'll be watching Dreamhack. I can't support this type of pricing scheme. They're obviously testing an idea. If this pans out, I'm pretty sure the SQ stream for normal GSL will stay, but they'll have space for special tournaments that charge. | ||
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Rarak
Australia631 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:27 seiferoth10 wrote: So, it's the first ever tournament that has absolutely no free stream, and idiots are eating it up. What? Isn't this going backwards? No free stream at all? Doesn't that alienate viewers who aren't committed enough to spend money to watch Starcraft? Seems ass backwards to me. And, guess I'll be watching Dreamhack. I can't support this type of pricing scheme. The GSL has the best players in the world, and the best production values. They are adding another awesome tournament that fans can choose to buy for a measly $5 if they want to. How is that not good? i'm definitely in. Gomtv does so much good, why not support them? I bought a recent MLG and the Homestory cup also because they are providing great entertainment for a great price. | ||
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theBizness
United States696 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:23 Ruscour wrote: No free stream this is seriously printing money for GOM, at least it's cheapYeah other than the production costs, opening the studios, paying casters, etc. etc. it's just like printing free money! | ||
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Frogsox
Australia274 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:30 Taf the Ghost wrote: They're obviously testing an idea. If this pans out, I'm pretty sure the SQ stream for normal GSL will stay, but they'll have space for special tournaments that charge. Unless I'm wrong, I think you missed the joke. | ||
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Recoil
United States276 Posts
I like how GOM is using this to see how much they can get out of a tourney it is important that they find as many ways as possible to monetize their properties and make their model of an SC2 tournament sustainable for the foreseeable future. Put the biggest names in SC2 in 1 tourney guarantee lots of hyped matches almost anyone in it can win it I'm excited. I hope for the success of the tournament and future tournaments like it | ||
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Frogsox
Australia274 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:30 Rarak wrote: The GSL has the best players in the world, and the best production values. They are adding another awesome tournament that fans can choose to buy for a measly $5 if they want to. How is that not good? i'm definitely in. Gomtv does so much good, why not support them? I bought a recent MLG and the Homestory cup also because they are providing great entertainment for a great price. Top man. I hold subs for ESL, GSL and MLG not just so I can watch all their content at the highest quality, but also to help make sure they survive and continue to grow. :D | ||
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United States23455 Posts
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NasKe_
Brazil570 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:29 xhkz wrote: I'm missing maybe only 1 or 2 tickets to qualify for free for and some reason I was just about to go pay for those without realizing that this only costs 4.99 zzzzzz yeah i'm missing 3/4 tickets, but either way, would be better if in the end of the year we got a fucking great event and some discont by porcen like, all tickets = free 50% of tickets = 50% the price | ||
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Biane
Australia645 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:19 Suigentoo wrote: I'm perfectly fine with watching the dirt stream and I was perfectly happy to pay for gold membership to watch MLG because they don't force me to watch it on a crappy, Windows only propriety player. All they are doing is restricting viewership and essentially hurting ESPORTS. Ah, what's the point of arguing anyway, it's not like you'll see my logic with your blind fanboy-ism. Looks like I'll just be downloading the HD VODS from elsewhere as usual then Well that just threw all your logic out the window, nevermind about blind fanboy-ism, talk about doing something that is actually hurting esports. Or maybe you don't seem to see this similar as to downloading music/movies, not that everyone on the internet is a goody-two-shoes who has ever done anything that is illegal.....have they? You even have the guts to proclaim it. | ||
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:27 seiferoth10 wrote: So, it's the first ever tournament that has absolutely no free stream, and idiots are eating it up. What? Isn't this going backwards? No free stream at all? Doesn't that alienate viewers who aren't committed enough to spend money to watch Starcraft? Seems ass backwards to me. And, guess I'll be watching Dreamhack. I can't support this type of pricing scheme. That's your choice and you'll be missing out on some hopefully amazing matches. We're not "idiots eating it up" we're fans and supporters of what GOM is doing in Korea. Combine this with their recent sponsorship of ESV.tv (formerly icCup) and I guess you could say it will balance everything out. Now the stakes in the ESV Monthly Final will be that much higher, and free (not to mention Orb is a great caster) for fans who only watch free events, meanwhile the Arena of Legends balances out the "new blood" of the ESV Monthlies and "Code B" by having a heated short-term tournament for the "Legends" of Starcraft 2. I don't see why so many people are mad at GOM for charging for this event, when a) it's not even a large sum of money, and b) There's no way you WON'T get your moneys worth from this. | ||
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JJH777
United States4407 Posts
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Biane
Australia645 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:33 Fionn wrote: Am I the only who thought this was going to be a new GOM League of Legends tournament? I thought of that too, especially since NASL did pick up HON..... | ||
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Frogsox
Australia274 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:33 Fionn wrote: Am I the only who thought this was going to be a new GOM League of Legends tournament? I thought so as well when I first saw the title. But hey, it's EVEN BETTER than I expected. | ||
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farnham
1378 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:22 unoriginalname wrote: Bah, season 1 is the only ticket I haven't bought and after the free GSL weekend I've no reason to see the games again. Group A looks super stacked, hopefully NesTea has worked on his ZvT so he can beat MMA's insane aggression. NaNiWa looks to have a relatively easy group, so who knows, perhaps a foreigner can advance to the play-offs. I was thinking the same. Well one bad egg in a fantastic line-up can be forgiven. Though I wish Tastosis was casting. After hearing Moletrap and DOA cast Code S players, it really grates on your nerves that they don't seem to be as hype about their play as Artosis, especially concerning NesTea. NOOOO TRICKSTER IS AWESOME the real protoss innovator | ||
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NasKe_
Brazil570 Posts
Mr Chae wants a good final... wel... i dont think that is going to happen =( | ||
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Frogsox
Australia274 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:33 VirgilSC2 wrote: That's your choice and you'll be missing out on some hopefully amazing matches. We're not "idiots eating it up" we're fans and supporters of what GOM is doing in Korea. Combine this with their recent sponsorship of ESV.tv (formerly icCup) and I guess you could say it will balance everything out. Now the stakes in the ESV Monthly Final will be that much higher, and free (not to mention Orb is a great caster) for fans who only watch free events, meanwhile the Arena of Legends balances out the "new blood" of the ESV Monthlies and "Code B" by having a heated short-term tournament for the "Legends" of Starcraft 2. I don't see why so many people are mad at GOM for charging for this event, when a) it's not even a large sum of money, and b) There's no way you WON'T get your moneys worth from this. I think people are missing that the post you quoted is actually a troll/joke post. If you re-read it carefully you'll see that I hope. | ||
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darkest44
United States1009 Posts
Slacker who drinks more than he practices getting free rides to these tourneys just to get his ass kicked lol. He sucked at MLG, he'll suck here. Kinda funny seeing "AOL" being used... funny that anyone can get away with using it now and it not be a big deal, 10+ years ago no way. I remember when everyone that had a computer had America Online.. now no one does lol, man how times have changed. | ||
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gladsheim
Australia676 Posts
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL | ||
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Biane
Australia645 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:36 NasKe_ wrote: so this is pretty obvius Mr Chae wants a good final... wel... i dont think that is going to happen =( Yeah! MKP! Boxer! MVP! MMA for top 4! | ||
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Bartiemus
New Zealand84 Posts
its a sad day to be a protoss MC fighting. | ||
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
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Frogsox
Australia274 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:37 darkest44 wrote: Who voted for Trickster >,> Slacker who drink more than they practice getting free rides to these tourneys just to get his ass kicked is kinda annoying. He sucked at MLG, he'll suck here. No one voted for Trickster. The fan vote was for the All-Star match this weekend before the Code S final. | ||
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nicknt
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bananajk
Germany92 Posts
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:36 Frogsox wrote: I think people are missing that the post you quoted is actually a troll/joke post. If you re-read it carefully you'll see that I hope. Oh wow, I see that now, I'm tired, it's late, and I'm watching IPL, give me a break! Plus, I still stand by everything I said. | ||
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darkest44
United States1009 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:38 Frogsox wrote: No one voted for Trickster. The fan vote was for the All-Star match this weekend before the Code S final. Oh, list looked pretty similar between the two. | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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Frogsox
Australia274 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:40 VirgilSC2 wrote: Oh wow, I see that now, I'm tired, it's late, and I'm watching IPL, give me a break! Plus, I still stand by everything I said. I'm with you. Enjoy your IPL! And keep fighting the good fight and supporting an Esports world where people aren't all cheap. | ||
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Suigentoo
United Kingdom3 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:33 Biane wrote: Well that just threw all your logic out the window, nevermind about blind fanboy-ism, talk about doing something that is actually hurting esports. Or maybe you don't seem to see this similar as to downloading music/movies, not that everyone on the internet is a goody-two-shoes who has ever done anything that is illegal.....have they? You even have the guts to proclaim it. GOM refuse to cater the free market and I'm the one hurting "esports". Sure, good job. I guess your shit is better than mine because you pay. | ||
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Gentso
United States2218 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:27 ragealot wrote: He doesn't even want to shell out money to see/support something he loves, what are the chances he'll buy the sponsor's product? If you are going to freeload, at least be quiet about it. FREELOADING? You're all ridiculous and too strung up in the entire 'support esports' thing its actually sort of sickening. Remember what Geoff said a million times during the NASL? Something like, "The fact that you're watching is supporting us a great deal." I said what I have to say, and it's obvious that there's no point saying anymore on team liquid in this regard. You guys not minding to pay and posting here isn't a coincidence. I like doing things like buying jerseys, team liquid shirts, and doritos. I'm going to be attending MLG as well for the experience. | ||
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Frogsox
Australia274 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:40 darkest44 wrote: Oh, list looked pretty similar between the two. That's true. However, that's probably just as much to do with the fact that people voted for the best/most popular players in the game. I wouldn't rule out the votes influencing the invites, I guess. | ||
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ELlminator1
Australia344 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:40 MooMooMugi wrote: I dont get why Trickster and Naniwa in there but sounds like a cool tournament Naniwa is there you keep the foreigners interested. No body knows wtf trickster is doing there but at least we dont have to watch TvT intially. | ||
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Ecliptium
Canada147 Posts
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Frogsox
Australia274 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:43 Suigentoo wrote: GOM refuse to cater the free market and I'm the one hurting "esports". Sure, good job. I guess your shit is better than mine because you pay. They've been catering to the "free market" for over a year now with their free streams... | ||
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Fubi
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Jakkerr
Netherlands2549 Posts
Ah well, now atleast I can still watch GSL 2 days per week. | ||
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Biane
Australia645 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:43 Suigentoo wrote: GOM refuse to cater the free market and I'm the one hurting "esports". Sure, good job. I guess your shit is better than mine because you pay. I guess you didn't see my previous post so for the benefit of the doubt here it is again: + Show Spoiler + On September 09 2011 15:26 Biane wrote: What a way to make a statement, making a new TL account just to post and flame GOM. I'm cheap bastard who hasn't paid for any of the GSL vods at all, just watching the free SQ stream, but I don't go around making new accounts on a forum just to attempt to flame GOM for something they have the right to control. I'm not happy that this event isn't free but hey, I'm the one who isn't prepared to shell out money to watch my favorite players play. This is GOM's tournament, they run it, its their money, they decide what to do with it. I have a right to dislike how it will be run but being a dick isn't helping esports. Thanks for being the cancer of esports Suigentoo. and thanks. I guess i am doing a good job ^^. | ||
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theBizness
United States696 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:43 Suigentoo wrote: GOM refuse to cater the free market and I'm the one hurting "esports". Sure, good job. I guess your shit is better than mine because you pay. They offer free content 6 days a week almost... | ||
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Wein
Brazil452 Posts
Cheering for BoxeR as always! | ||
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makk
United Kingdom132 Posts
but I guess its only $5Finally get to to see nestea vs mc. Shame there is no nada . And are people really complaining about $5 lol | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
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Frogsox
Australia274 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:46 Jakkerr wrote: This is the race distribution I want for Code S >.>. Ah well, now atleast I can still watch GSL 2 days per week. Yeah, too bad that player skill, race choices and patch balances decide the racial distribution as opposed to a group of men (and probably a woman too) making picks on what they hope will work and forcing crap players into the league to make up the numbers. | ||
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Jakkerr
Netherlands2549 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:45 Fubi wrote: Can't help but think group A and C are infinitely more stacked than group B and D. Who and how were these groups assigned anyways? All zergs are on top, then terran, then protoss. Seems like they just had 3 bowls with the race names and randomly picked 1 name out of each bowl. | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
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JoeSchmoe
Canada2058 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:43 Suigentoo wrote: GOM refuse to cater the free market and I'm the one hurting "esports". Sure, good job. I guess your shit is better than mine because you pay. So which PBU were you? As for the AOL, looks interesting but I wish the stream was free. I'm probably not going to pay for this one because it does add up and I don't have much time anymore. Too bad I don't get it free, only missed like one season =( | ||
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ragnorr
Denmark6097 Posts
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critique
United States135 Posts
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JiYan
United States3668 Posts
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makk
United Kingdom132 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:55 JiYan wrote: wow 2 million won for this kind of tournament seems kind of small =\ Probably more of a showmatch than an actual competition. Now to hope tastosis cast | ||
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Gotmog
Serbia899 Posts
No free stream ?! Not even the shitty quality stream we were getting from GOM ? /facepalm ... Bah, i hope i can find a way to watch it :/ So sad. | ||
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kankerganker
Denmark58 Posts
6 days, AT LEAST 3 bo3's per day for group play, then 2 bo5s and a bo7 in the final, should add up to 20+ hours of content in HQ, which is cheap as fuck when compared to going to the movies, renting movies, buying movies, even compared to fucking satelite TV subscription.. only problem i see with this tournament is that Naniwa, and to a lesser degree trickster has been invited... trickster is atleast known in korea and has shown SOME results but naniwa? seriously? hasnt even won a single CODE A GAME, but keeps on getting "code a welfare invite"... there are tons of protosses who are much better players than naniwa: Genius, Hongun, inCa, JYP, Puzzle, Sage, even tassadar | ||
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PackAttack
United States80 Posts
Personally, I find it disheartening that when GOM actually decides to broadcast a stream at a reasonable hour (really, how many people can stay up to 5 or 6 am watching starcraft?) they have the audacity to make this particular stream for purchase only. I love watching well run tournaments such as MLG, but have no future plans of watching GSL as long as they continue their current business plan. | ||
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mrRoflpwn
United States2618 Posts
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Belisarius
Australia6230 Posts
I suspect they were just desperate for internationally popular protoss to fill out the lineup. The fact that Nani is one of the invites shows this is catered to foreign fans, and aside from Puzzle, Trickster's still probably one of the best-known P's lying around. | ||
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Frogsox
Australia274 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:57 Gotmog wrote: ROFL.... No free stream ?! Not even the shitty quality stream we were getting from GOM ? /facepalm ... Bah, i hope i can find a way to watch it :/ So sad. I think you'll find a way if you scrape around for spare change in your couch. | ||
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ProxyKnoxy
United Kingdom2576 Posts
And a good lineup although Trickster is questionable | ||
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theBizness
United States696 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:58 PackAttack wrote: I would totally be watching this...If there was a free stream that played adds between every game. I know GOM is trying admirably to make a profit, but there is just so much free starcraft to watch out there, and I really can't justify paying for it. I still contend that making the top tournament in starcraft so inaccessible is crippling its popularity. Personally, I find it disheartening that when GOM actually decides to broadcast a stream at a reasonable hour (really, how many people can stay up to 5 or 6 am watching starcraft?) they have the audacity to make this particular stream for purchase only. I love watching well run tournaments such as MLG, but have no future plans of watching GSL as long as they continue their current business plan. The AUDACITY! They want to make some money? Quick, call the better business bureau, this here company is trying to make a bit of money. Apparently their current business plan of live free streams isn't free or accessible enough for you. Perhaps they could move the set to your living room and you could watch them live? ( Time spent complaining on TL + doing nothing on reddit ) x minimum wage = more than enough to pay for every GSL and then some. | ||
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Demidyne
United States110 Posts
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coolcor
520 Posts
Charge for the livestream and recent vods, make vods free after a few days or a week. The people most likely to pay are people hardcore into sc2 esports and are more likely to want to see it as soon as possible as it happens, charge for livestream to get as much money from these people as possible The people least likely to play are people not into sc2 esports much or don't even know about it at all. They won't care if they see games late because they aren't talking about it on forums all day so a free vod after a week can get lots of views, lots of new customers that might become subscribers later, and lots of advertising money for GOM as the link spreads around the internet. | ||
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Frogsox
Australia274 Posts
On September 09 2011 16:04 theBizness wrote: The AUDACITY! They want to make some money? Quick, call the better business bureau, this here company is trying to make a bit of money. Apparently their current business plan of live free streams isn't free or accessible enough for you. Perhaps they could move the set to your living room and you could watch them live? ( Time spent complaining on TL + doing nothing on reddit ) x minimum wage = more than enough to pay for every GSL and then some. Pretty much. :D:D:D Not to mention the complaint about them making it so that the time suits him and not the players/casters/fans in Korea who make it all happen. | ||
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Lorizean
Germany1330 Posts
The market for sc2 is relatively unexplored and unresearched I'd say, so it'll be interesting to see whether the amount of people wanting to pay offsets the extra views they'd get from a free stream. | ||
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Boof
Canada77 Posts
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BackSideAttack
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TheBanana
Norway2183 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:22 anonymitylol wrote: IMNesTea SlayerS_BoxeR oGsMC IMLosirA IMMvp EGHuK MVPDongRaeGu SlayerS_MMA Dignitas.NaNiwa StarTaleJuly MarineKingPrime.WE StarTale_TricKsteR One of these does not belong... IMNesTea - GSL Champion SlayerS_BoxeR - Champion of life oGsMC - GSL Champion IMLosirA - GSL Finalist IMMvp - GSL Champion EGHuK - Dreamhack Champion MVPDongRaeGu - Special League Champion SlayerS_MMA - MLG Champion Dignitas.NaNiwa - MLG Champion StarTaleJuly - GSL Finalist MarineKingPrime.WE - GSL Finalist StarTale_TricKsteR - ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | ||
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ladyumbra
Canada1699 Posts
With regards to the event itself I can actually see the zergs winning every group ( with group A being the most contested) which would make gom staff facepalm but be hilarious nonetheless. Rooting for Huk and Naniwa to do well though ^-^. My actual hope to win the whole thing is Losira as he's been improving a hell of a lot lately and I'd like to see him climb out of Nestea's shadow a little. | ||
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Frogsox
Australia274 Posts
On September 09 2011 16:11 ladyumbra wrote: Hmm wonder if our new credit card works for this, I'll be sad if it doesn't. This I think is my only quibble with ppv events, some people may be willing to pay for things but not have the option to do so. Much like how holding ipl 3 in a casino cuts out a section of people from attending, holding content behind a paywall prevents a section of audience from viewing. I completely understand why it has to happen and I'm all for Gom making some money beyond basic maintenance but it can be frustrating at times. With regards to the event itself I can actually see the zergs winning every group ( with group A being the most contested) which would make gom staff facepalm but be hilarious nonetheless. Rooting for Huk and Naniwa to do well though ^-^. My actual hope to win the whole thing is Losira as he's been improving a hell of a lot lately and I'd like to see him climb out of Nestea's shadow a little. Hopefully you can use a Paypal account if you don't have a credit card that works with their website. | ||
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Lorizean
Germany1330 Posts
On September 09 2011 16:11 TheBanana wrote: IMNesTea - GSL Champion SlayerS_BoxeR - Champion of life oGsMC - GSL Champion IMLosirA - GSL Finalist IMMvp - GSL Champion EGHuK - Dreamhack Champion MVPDongRaeGu - Special League Champion SlayerS_MMA - MLG Champion Dignitas.NaNiwa - MLG Champion StarTaleJuly - GSL Finalist MarineKingPrime.WE - GSL Finalist StarTale_TricKsteR - ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ "Special League" sounds too much like "Special Olympics" (not to be mean)I wonder how they actually chose the players - who knows, maybe Trickster is really popular in Korea? | ||
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JustPassingBy
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Celial
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vertical101
Hong Kong311 Posts
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enecateReAP
United Kingdom378 Posts
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Dakure
United States513 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:57 Gotmog wrote: ROFL.... No free stream ?! Not even the shitty quality stream we were getting from GOM ? /facepalm ... Bah, i hope i can find a way to watch it :/ So sad. Pay for it. :3 | ||
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Lorizean
Germany1330 Posts
On September 09 2011 16:16 vertical101 wrote: why no Nada They had only 4 Terran slots Though I suppose NaDa could've replaced MMA or MKP. | ||
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Mr.Brightside
Australia317 Posts
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gruff
Sweden2276 Posts
On September 09 2011 16:04 theBizness wrote: The AUDACITY! They want to make some money? Quick, call the better business bureau, this here company is trying to make a bit of money. Apparently their current business plan of live free streams isn't free or accessible enough for you. Perhaps they could move the set to your living room and you could watch them live? ( Time spent complaining on TL + doing nothing on reddit ) x minimum wage = more than enough to pay for every GSL and then some. Yeah! How dare they ruin esports?!? | ||
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BackSideAttack
1103 Posts
On September 09 2011 15:37 darkest44 wrote: Who voted for Trickster >,> Slacker who drinks more than he practices getting free rides to these tourneys just to get his ass kicked lol. He sucked at MLG, he'll suck here. Kinda funny seeing "AOL" being used... funny that anyone can get away with using it now and it not be a big deal, 10+ years ago no way. I remember when everyone that had a computer had America Online.. now no one does lol, man how times have changed. Kind of silly to complain about Trickster, when Naniwa was invited. | ||
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BackSideAttack
1103 Posts
On September 09 2011 16:11 TheBanana wrote: IMNesTea - GSL Champion SlayerS_BoxeR - Champion of life oGsMC - GSL Champion IMLosirA - GSL Finalist IMMvp - GSL Champion EGHuK - Dreamhack Champion MVPDongRaeGu - Special League Champion SlayerS_MMA - MLG Champion Dignitas.NaNiwa - MLG Champion StarTaleJuly - GSL Finalist MarineKingPrime.WE - GSL Finalist StarTale_TricKsteR - ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Naniwa's MLG championship before Koreans is meaningless. Tester's showings in GSL is much more impressive. | ||
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Proof.
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DoomsVille
Canada4885 Posts
That puts him in company with LosirA/NesTea and Fruitdealer and no one else. He totally deserves to be there. EDIT: Meant in terms of zergs. EDIT2: Sweet. I think I fit in the "bought every GSL season ticket" group. I don't remember any I didn't buy. | ||
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Ninety-Three
United States68 Posts
I'm looking forward to the tournament. I've actually been wanting regular showmatch series between the best of the best who don't get matched up frequently due to how the brackets line up from season to season. This is very close to just that! I'm satisfied. | ||
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aebriol
Norway2066 Posts
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NguN
Australia1322 Posts
His PvZ is probably better then MC's at this point. Took out DongRaeGu at MLG, and took Losira (who's a ZvP BEAST) to a 5th set in the last GSL. His PvP is definitely solid. Does anybody still remember his defence against a proxy 2-gate with just one gate? Even sent one Zealot to the opponent's base and still held! The only real thing that really stopped him throughout his whole SC2 career is his PvT.. and what'd you have it, more then 50% of Code S is Terran. He's retained Code S all the way till just yesterday, where he was in a 3 way tie to hold it in the up/down matchest. He's made Ro8 Code S a few times. His recent results suck, but in the whole scope of things, he's done well enough to make this tournament. The other only person I could think that could replace him is Nada... | ||
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vertical101
Hong Kong311 Posts
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DoomsVille
Canada4885 Posts
On September 09 2011 16:23 vertical101 wrote: the prize is so small. $2k for 1stplace? Group play with 3 people, semis and finals. That's all you have to play. That is basically a few hours worth of games. Plus it's online. | ||
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sitromit
7051 Posts
On September 09 2011 16:21 Proof. wrote: IMO, it's not only trickster than doesn't belong. July and Naniwa are awesome players no doubt, but to place them in the same category as the others...I dunno about that. What are you talking about? July is the second most successful Zerg in the GSL after Nestea, he certainly deserves to be there. | ||
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nvs.
Canada3609 Posts
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Mobius_1
United Kingdom2763 Posts
And I love how each group has a Z, a P, and a T. | ||
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Choboo
Sweden2088 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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JerKy
Korea (South)3013 Posts
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Nifel
706 Posts
On September 09 2011 16:26 sitromit wrote: What are you talking about? July is the second most successful Zerg in the GSL after Nestea, he certainly deserves to be there. July belongs there, without a shadow of a doubt. He is one of the best. I guess people have mixed opinions on him because when he does lose, he loses in a very brutal way. When his crisp timings and plans just don't click, things fall apart. On the flip side, when things go his way, wow.. Also, in terms of results and showings, Trickster is on a much higher level than Naniwa. In terms of reality there's always room for discussion of course.. Either way, I've got no problem with any of these players being there. It'll be a great show, even if it's pretty damn clear who the favorites to win are. | ||
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drgoats
United States310 Posts
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_vladimir_
Serbia530 Posts
Anyhow, always nice to see some new tournament, i just wonder how serious will top players aproach it, because it doesnt award that much money. Hopefully they still will! | ||
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Inex
Bulgaria443 Posts
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Klogon
MURICA15980 Posts
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tyrless
United States485 Posts
Of course, I'm ballin' because I'll be getting an actually free no-vods ticket since I've bought all the seasons thus far :D Now the only way GOM could screw this up is if Tastosis didn't cast it... Also, why is Naniwa in there? Sticks out like a sore thumb he is so outclassed :/ | ||
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MIKster
Germany333 Posts
And maybe Trickster will take this given chance and surprise us all... ;-) | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
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Fox116
United States409 Posts
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zul
Germany5427 Posts
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weiliem
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Existential
Australia2107 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
But, well MC playing awful lol. Im excited though very nice tournament offer GOM, thanks. PS. omg a group stage with BO3s!!!!! PLEASE do this in code S!!! PLEASEEE | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
'legendary' protosses we have are Naniwa and Tester. | ||
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krebsen
Sweden4 Posts
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sitromit
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Phantom_Sky
Hong Kong512 Posts
in my opinion, it's a bit embarrassing for Korean protosses than they had to invite Huk (best result in GSL being Ro8) and Naniwa (who cannot ever pass one round in Code A), not saying that these two players do not deserve the it, just saying that it's seems extremely difficult to find korean protoss "all-star" | ||
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FrodoAndTheSlobStix
United States158 Posts
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BigKahunaBurger
Australia334 Posts
On September 09 2011 16:52 Phantom_Sky wrote: I think tester in the list showing a much bigger problem, there are just not enough "stars" for protoss, stars not in only terms of achievement but in terms of entertaining values, seems to be a problem with the race in general? in my opinion, it's a bit embarrassing for Korean protosses than they had to invite Huk (best result in GSL being Ro8) and Naniwa (who cannot ever pass one round in Code A), not saying that these two players do not deserve the it, just saying that it's seems extremely difficult to find korean protoss "all-star" What has MMA done in his GSL career? I seem to recall him dropping out of Code A first round too, It's obviously something for the fans, showcasing popular players. Of course, we can't just enjoy the tournament, of course not. We have to question everything. RAH RAH RUINING E-SPORTS | ||
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Angelbelow
United States3728 Posts
On September 09 2011 16:51 sitromit wrote: To those that are saying Naniwa will win his group... Has Naniwa EVER beaten a Korean in a tournament, other than Moon at Columbus? How many games has he taken from Koreans, let alone matches? He beat MC in the HSC3. | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
Looking forward to him roflstomping future foreign events! edit: yeah, but MC was kind of sick there. Huk beat MC there pretty solidly in close games as well, but he admitted that MC wasn't up to is usual level during that time. I think he got beaten by MC in the next event afterwards. | ||
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Metak
296 Posts
Really looking forward to this, looking forward to see what nAni learned in Korea and lots of cross-race matchups! | ||
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ladyumbra
Canada1699 Posts
That said poor HongUn is the most consistent protoss in the gsl and he gets left out in favour of Trickster !? Both are pretty cheesy but like July, Hongun manages to make his cheese amusing because you know it's coming and it still works. | ||
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Turntablez
Sweden73 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:22 anonymitylol wrote: IMNesTea SlayerS_BoxeR oGsMC IMLosirA IMMvp EGHuK MVPDongRaeGu SlayerS_MMA Dignitas.NaNiwa StarTaleJuly MarineKingPrime.WE StarTale_TricKsteR One of these does not belong... Yes. | ||
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careohx
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Headnoob
Australia2108 Posts
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careohx
263 Posts
1st prize: 2.000.000 KRW Runner-up: 1.000.000 KRW Semifinals: 500.000 KRW Group play: 300.000 KRW | ||
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Grettin
42381 Posts
On September 09 2011 17:01 careohx wrote: whats the prizepool of this tournament? 1st: $1880 2nd: $940 3rd-4th: $470 5th-8th: $282 On September 09 2011 17:02 Headnoob wrote: Gomtv just made themselves easy money With tournaments like these, you'll be seeing more stuff from GOM in the future. Easy or not, they'll provide great entertainment to you and rest of us. | ||
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nukeazerg
United States168 Posts
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Morale
Sweden1010 Posts
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butchji
Germany1531 Posts
On September 09 2011 17:05 nukeazerg wrote: Dude its the weekend why cant they run it 6 hours earlier to finally have a complete product for non-graveyard shift Americans. Because the world doesn't revolve around you. | ||
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Lt.Roosevelt
Sweden84 Posts
Going to be fun to see Naniwa in there, but I doubt he stands a chance of doing anything spectacular. He hasn't been in Korea for that long and I think he still needs some more practice over there to be able to make some noice. Just like HuK. I personally play Terran (Played, quit a few weeks ago for school... man was I addicted >.<) and with the state of Protoss atm I just can't see any of the P's making it very far, not with these opponents. Even if vP isn't MVPs or whoevers best matchup, right now they don't need it to be to beat the best P's out there pretty handily imo. Really hope we get to see some sick matches and with this lineup it is hard to believe we won't | ||
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BackSideAttack
1103 Posts
On September 09 2011 16:55 BigKahunaBurger wrote: What has MMA done in his GSL career? I seem to recall him dropping out of Code A first round too, It's obviously something for the fans, showcasing popular players. Of course, we can't just enjoy the tournament, of course not. We have to question everything. RAH RAH RUINING E-SPORTS uhh.. he got SECOND in the GSL SUPER TOURNAMENT. | ||
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Coal
Sweden1535 Posts
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Headnoob
Australia2108 Posts
On September 09 2011 17:03 Grettin wrote: 1st: $1880 2nd: $940 3rd-4th: $470 5th-8th: $282 With tournaments like these, you'll be seeing more stuff from GOM in the future. Easy or not, they'll provide great entertainment to you and rest of us. oh hell yeah not complaining at all, smart idea and it gives me something to watch on weekends | ||
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TheBanana
Norway2183 Posts
On September 09 2011 17:05 nukeazerg wrote: Dude its the weekend why cant they run it 6 hours earlier to finally have a complete product for non-graveyard shift Americans. You want them to start playing at 4 am? | ||
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spacer
Netherlands2786 Posts
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Azzur
Australia6259 Posts
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TheAmazombie
United States3714 Posts
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Sakkreth
Lithuania1096 Posts
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NoRedRider
United States56 Posts
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Gr33d
Germany423 Posts
On September 09 2011 17:05 nukeazerg wrote: Dude its the weekend why cant they run it 6 hours earlier to finally have a complete product for non-graveyard shift Americans. I would prefer if every tournament is shown during "normal" times in europe too, but as its a korean tournament, you have to live with a korean timezone. That said, to watch it you need a premium ticket. When you buy a premium ticket you get access to the VODs. So just watch them whenever you like. | ||
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Xaerkar
United States230 Posts
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Corwintt
Bulgaria85 Posts
Hard to find good enough tosses, but still you have my 5$. | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
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vijeze
Netherlands719 Posts
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Xacalite
Germany533 Posts
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DisaFear
Australia4074 Posts
Will definitely be tuning in to this, well done GomTV | ||
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MagusPage
114 Posts
Seems like GOM gets more baller everyday. Gonna be an awesome event. Can't wait. | ||
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RaiKageRyu
Canada4773 Posts
Thank you GOM.TV! | ||
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FILM
United States663 Posts
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Biane
Australia645 Posts
On September 09 2011 17:39 MagusPage wrote: For the first time in SC2, we are going to have BoxeR vs July. Seems like GOM gets more baller everyday. Gonna be an awesome event. Can't wait. They had a Boxer vs July show match once before. There's also gonna be the All-stars match tomorrow including Boxer vs July. | ||
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gengka
Malaysia461 Posts
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parazice
Thailand5517 Posts
no Polt but Tester | ||
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Eufouria
United Kingdom4425 Posts
edit:I feel bad for Polt. He's the 4th highest points scorer in the GSL and has probably earned more points recently than MC, but he constantly gets shafted for not being top 3. | ||
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gengka
Malaysia461 Posts
On September 09 2011 17:15 BackSideAttack wrote: uhh.. he got SECOND in the GSL SUPER TOURNAMENT. ermmm.. he won MLG? He saved Slayers' ass lotsa times? and he is one of the handsome nerd out there? | ||
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Coppii
Norway57 Posts
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Zooper31
United States5710 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:22 anonymitylol wrote: IMNesTea SlayerS_BoxeR oGsMC IMLosirA IMMvp EGHuK MVPDongRaeGu SlayerS_MMA Dignitas.NaNiwa StarTaleJuly MarineKingPrime.WE StarTale_TricKsteR One of these does not belong... If you didn't highlight trickster I would've said Naniwa lol, obvious choice for me. | ||
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redloser
Korea (South)1725 Posts
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Niick
Australia426 Posts
On September 09 2011 16:11 TheBanana wrote: IMNesTea - GSL Champion SlayerS_BoxeR - Champion of life oGsMC - GSL Champion IMLosirA - GSL Finalist IMMvp - GSL Champion EGHuK - Dreamhack Champion MVPDongRaeGu - Special League Champion SlayerS_MMA - MLG Champion Dignitas.NaNiwa - MLG Champion StarTaleJuly - GSL Finalist MarineKingPrime.WE - GSL Finalist StarTale_TricKsteR - ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Take the rose tinters off, boxer gets the ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ tag too. | ||
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Kdog3wa
Sweden40 Posts
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gengka
Malaysia461 Posts
On September 09 2011 18:01 Zooper31 wrote: If you didn't highlight trickster I would've said Naniwa lol, obvious choice for me. well at least trickster was a legend during the beta. | ||
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CooDu
Australia899 Posts
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ThatGuy89
United Kingdom1968 Posts
shame this isnt free, but considering the casters i wont be paying for it | ||
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alepov
Netherlands1132 Posts
On September 09 2011 18:01 Zooper31 wrote: If you didn't highlight trickster I would've said Naniwa lol, obvious choice for me. same here :D and i know it's considered blasphemy here, but boxer is obviously quite a bit worse than the rest too. | ||
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Zooper31
United States5710 Posts
On September 09 2011 18:04 gengka wrote: well at least trickster was a legend during the beta. I guess the way I worded it made it sound like I was agreeing, I'm not. Naniwa doesn't belong imo | ||
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MagusPage
114 Posts
On September 09 2011 17:51 Biane wrote: They had a Boxer vs July show match once before. There's also gonna be the All-stars match tomorrow including Boxer vs July. I didn't know about the old showmatch. Out of curiosity, when was it & what was the result? And I actually didn't check the MUs for the All-Stars Games. But it's still gonna be a sick tournament though. | ||
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Aphasie
Norway474 Posts
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:22 anonymitylol wrote: IMNesTea SlayerS_BoxeR oGsMC IMLosirA IMMvp EGHuK MVPDongRaeGu SlayerS_MMA Dignitas.NaNiwa StarTaleJuly MarineKingPrime.WE StarTale_TricKsteR One of these does not belong... My thoughts exactly. Really GOM? Was Hongun not available? | ||
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Eufouria
United Kingdom4425 Posts
On September 09 2011 18:03 Niick wrote: Take the rose tinters off, boxer gets the ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ tag too. Lets be honest. IMNesTea - GSL Champion SlayerS_BoxeR - ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ oGsMC - GSL Champion IMLosirA - GSL Finalist IMMvp - GSL Champion EGHuK - Dreamhack Champion MVPDongRaeGu - Special League Champion SlayerS_MMA - MLG Champion Dignitas.NaNiwa - ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ StarTaleJuly - GSL Finalist MarineKingPrime.WE - Hmmmmm StarTale_TricKsteR - ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Even when you factor in that they do need to add Protoss players in Genius should be there over Naniwa and Polt should be there over Boxer. edit:In fact even HongUn deserves the place over Trickster. | ||
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redloser
Korea (South)1725 Posts
On September 09 2011 18:15 Eufouria wrote: Lets be honest. IMNesTea - GSL Champion SlayerS_BoxeR - ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ oGsMC - GSL Champion IMLosirA - GSL Finalist IMMvp - GSL Champion EGHuK - Dreamhack Champion MVPDongRaeGu - Special League Champion SlayerS_MMA - MLG Champion Dignitas.NaNiwa - ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ StarTaleJuly - GSL Finalist MarineKingPrime.WE - Hmmmmm StarTale_TricKsteR - ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Even when you factor in that they do need to add Protoss players in Genius should be there over Naniwa and Polt should be there over Boxer. edit:In fact even HongUn deserves the place over Trickster. yeah and if they didn't care about past achievements they could've added JYP | ||
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TheRealPaciFist
United States1049 Posts
I think Group C will be by far the most fun to watch Group A will be the most one sided... the one side being Nestea's calm, bespectacled face reflecting MC's arrogance in the glint of one eye and MMA's Slayers-born charm in the other. | ||
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Wuster
1974 Posts
On September 09 2011 17:34 Corwintt wrote: Clever, invite tourney to fix the race distribution. Hard to find good enough tosses, but still you have my 5$. I do like how they handled invites. It's not that dire for Protoss though, they could have easily invited Alicia and Puzzle to make it an all-Korean line-up. But Huk legitly belongs. As for Naniwa... as much as I like him, I'm not holding too much hope that he's made the leap just yet. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Well played by GoM, I will be paying for this. | ||
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untiemyshoe
New Zealand110 Posts
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Dikkbutt
Sweden193 Posts
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BobMcJohnson
France2916 Posts
Still awesome though :D | ||
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Benjef
United Kingdom6921 Posts
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superarmy
New Zealand422 Posts
On September 09 2011 18:15 Eufouria wrote: Lets be honest. IMNesTea - GSL Champion SlayerS_BoxeR - ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ oGsMC - GSL Champion IMLosirA - GSL Finalist IMMvp - GSL Champion EGHuK - Dreamhack Champion MVPDongRaeGu - Special League Champion SlayerS_MMA - MLG Champion Dignitas.NaNiwa - ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ StarTaleJuly - GSL Finalist MarineKingPrime.WE - Hmmmmm StarTale_TricKsteR - ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Even when you factor in that they do need to add Protoss players in Genius should be there over Naniwa and Polt should be there over Boxer. edit:In fact even HongUn deserves the place over Trickster. IMNesTea - GSL Champion SlayerS_BoxeR -Starcraft Legend, a exciting and innovative player, It's the freakin Emperor oGsMC - GSL Champion IMLosirA - GSL Finalist IMMvp - GSL Champion EGHuK - Dreamhack Champion MVPDongRaeGu - Special League Champion SlayerS_MMA - MLG Champion Dignitas.NaNiwa - MLG Champion StarTaleJuly - GSL Finalist MarineKingPrime.WE - Hmmmmm StarTale_TricKsteR - ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Don't count Boxer and Naniwa out, everyone in this tournament is scary and has a chance, cept Trickster | ||
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sunman1g
United States334 Posts
On September 09 2011 18:15 Eufouria wrote: Lets be honest. IMNesTea - GSL Champion SlayerS_BoxeR - ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ oGsMC - GSL Champion IMLosirA - GSL Finalist IMMvp - GSL Champion EGHuK - Dreamhack Champion MVPDongRaeGu - Special League Champion SlayerS_MMA - MLG Champion Dignitas.NaNiwa - ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ StarTaleJuly - GSL Finalist MarineKingPrime.WE - Hmmmmm StarTale_TricKsteR - ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Even when you factor in that they do need to add Protoss players in Genius should be there over Naniwa and Polt should be there over Boxer. edit:In fact even HongUn deserves the place over Trickster. So you put "GSL Finalist" next to Losira and next to MarineKing who's been in more finals than anyone you put "Hmmmm" ? lol. | ||
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Sabu113
United States11047 Posts
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pred470r
Bulgaria3265 Posts
On September 09 2011 18:35 Sabu113 wrote: Wonder if this is any hint at how well the GSL is doing. Having issues with Code S sales and maybe the new GSTL format so they create a super tournament with all of the "best". How do you know they have issues with code s sales? Do you work for gom or have any inside information you wanna provide as proof? | ||
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Chanted
Norway1001 Posts
Actually in my opinion, this is maybe just what some of us needed to get interested into GOM again. I bought the 3 first season tickets, but has since then not been watching alot of GOM, mostly due to lack of time and my interest in SC2 has declined a bit. With this tournement since there arent that many games, I think I will try to watch them all, and the playerpool and racial balance is also really nice. You will get my moneys GOM, because you have earned them and Im glad you continue to promote esports ! | ||
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BigKahunaBurger
Australia334 Posts
On September 09 2011 17:59 gengka wrote: ermmm.. he won MLG? He saved Slayers' ass lotsa times? and he is one of the handsome nerd out there? Well in that case, Naniwa has one of those under his belt too. And HuK has a tiny little Dreamhack win. Oh, and Homestory Cup. My original point stands. They are all as qualified as each other, barring maybe Seo Ki Soo. Maybe. | ||
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Katgram
France45 Posts
I really hope the players will deliver their best games despite the very low prize pool. | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
I bought every one of them except one or two early GSTL's because the format there was kind of a joke (just 8 team fighting in an elimination bracket). :-/ | ||
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dormer
United States1314 Posts
On September 09 2011 18:48 JustPassingBy wrote: Damn, having bought every GSL event is kind of a harsh criteria. I bought every one of them except one or two early GSTL's because the format there was kind of a joke (just 8 team fighting in an elimination bracket). :-/ It's only five dollars for all these great players that you normally don't see playing against each other that often, so I don't really see the problem. If you have bought everything up til now, it's just a little bonus, but not getting it for free shouldn't stop anyone that's interested. | ||
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ShatterZer0
United States1843 Posts
GO SlayerSBoxeR! oGsMC Hwaiitttting!!!! Kick some ass Mr. Huk! :DDD THis is going to be so much fun~! | ||
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DeSoya
Malaysia1 Post
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Kaiwa
Netherlands2209 Posts
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Paragleiber
413 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:22 anonymitylol wrote: IMNesTea SlayerS_BoxeR oGsMC IMLosirA IMMvp EGHuK MVPDongRaeGu SlayerS_MMA Dignitas.NaNiwa StarTaleJuly MarineKingPrime.WE StarTale_TricKsteR One of these does not belong... I guess BoxeR, since all the others are playing code A or S next season. | ||
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
NaDa isn't there | ||
ZodaSoda
Australia1191 Posts
<3 GOM Edit: yeah why no NaDa | ||
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Josri
Netherlands219 Posts
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Zombie_Velociraptor
274 Posts
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_vladimir_
Serbia530 Posts
On September 09 2011 18:32 superarmy wrote: [Don't count Boxer and Naniwa out, everyone in this tournament is scary and has a chance, cept Trickster I love amount of biased people here sometimes.. Im really curious how come you people draw conclusions that Naniwa is better in any way then Tester, even with all of his slacks lately, he have way more sucsess then Naniwa, and he beat 10 x times better players in his carrier.. | ||
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acgFork
Canada397 Posts
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Sea_Food
Finland1612 Posts
I will not buy this as I can watch HQ to top notch games, for free and I get like 50hours of that content daily. | ||
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Sea_Food
Finland1612 Posts
On September 09 2011 19:12 _vladimir_ wrote: I love amount of biased people here sometimes.. Im really curious how come you people draw conclusions that Naniwa is better in any way then Tester, even with all of his slacks lately, he have way more sucsess then Naniwa, and he beat 10 x times better players in his carrier.. Fruitdealer has done way better in hes SC2 career than bomber. That does not mean fruitdealer would be way better than bomber. | ||
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AndersR.
Denmark16 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:51 nicknt wrote: this is not a prestigious tournament, winner only gets like 2k. how does that make it less prestigious? the competition is so big that it makes the tournament prestigious. | ||
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Brett
Australia3820 Posts
But I must say... Tester is pretty bad these days... Doesn't really deserve to be there over others. | ||
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mrflakes
United States713 Posts
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labbe
Sweden1456 Posts
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Serelitz
Netherlands2895 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:22 anonymitylol wrote: IMNesTea SlayerS_BoxeR oGsMC IMLosirA IMMvp EGHuK MVPDongRaeGu SlayerS_MMA Dignitas.NaNiwa StarTaleJuly MarineKingPrime.WE StarTale_TricKsteR One of these does not belong... Finding good korean protosses that have been in the spotlight for a while (e.g. have a fanbase) is rather hard :'). I don't see any of the protosses making it to playoffs sadly. My bet: MMA MVP July Losira | ||
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unoriginalname
England380 Posts
On September 09 2011 19:25 labbe wrote: Will Tastosis be casting this? If yes, then it's a no brainer purchase. Unfortunately it's DOA/Moletrap like nearly everything else these days. Code A, Up/Down, GSTL and now Arena of Legends. | ||
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Lucidity
South Africa603 Posts
Please take my $5. | ||
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CEPEHDREI
Germany1521 Posts
On September 09 2011 19:30 unoriginalname wrote: Unfortunately it's DOA/Moletrap like nearly everything else these days. Code A, Up/Down, GSTL and now Arena of Legends. are you kidding me? why... just why great playerpool though | ||
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SaBoT
United States34 Posts
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Carny
Croatia284 Posts
On September 09 2011 19:31 Lucidity wrote: A racially balanced tourney? Oh GOM<3 Please take my $5. It doesn't matter if the Tourney starts racially balanced. In the end we'll still have TvT finals. | ||
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VTJRaen
United Kingdom238 Posts
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
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Sooji
United States121 Posts
On September 09 2011 19:30 unoriginalname wrote: Unfortunately it's DOA/Moletrap like nearly everything else these days. Code A, Up/Down, GSTL and now Arena of Legends. I can't seem to find that it would be cast by Code A guys anywhere. However, considering how the code A casters really do cast about 2 out of 3 days of GSL, it wouldn't surprise me. I don't hate the Code A casters, it's just that their game analysis (minus Wolf) is generally at a very low level when compared to Tastosis. I wonder who makes the decisions as to when Tastosis casts. Also, do the Koreans miss out on their code S casters as often as the foreign crowd? | ||
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Frequencyy
United States344 Posts
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_vladimir_
Serbia530 Posts
On September 09 2011 19:18 Sea_Food wrote: Fruitdealer has done way better in hes SC2 career than bomber. That does not mean fruitdealer would be way better than bomber. Yes, but even with his slumping down, he just droped from Code S, after being there for a long long time, and barely droping by losing after 3 way 2-2 tie in his group, fighting with JYP and MKP. While Naniwa couldnt even handle first round opponent in Code A. So i dont see how is comparation between FruitDealer and Bomber anyway near to them. Because that would imply that Naniwa is like Bomber?! Sorry but ill have to lol there.. | ||
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Carny
Croatia284 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
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TheTurk
United States732 Posts
Also, Trickster?..... edit: TASTOSIS ISN'T CASTING??? D'''^=) | ||
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Luepert
United States1933 Posts
And all you trickster haters, think about Naniwa, he got kicked out of code a in the first round, trickster at least has been code s for long time and earned his gsl spot. | ||
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Kazeyonoma
United States2912 Posts
I don't see how we DONT see amazing games/playoffs from this. so excited! And i get it free for being a loyal subscriber. yay! | ||
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Asymmetric
Scotland1309 Posts
"As a special present we will issue the no-ad premium ticket for free to all out loyal supporters who have bought every season ticket since Open Season 1 until now (including GSL October). The dead line for this criteria is September 16th 1PM KST, the free tickets will then be issued in the afternoon on the 16th to ensure you will be able to watch when the tournament starts on the 17th" Awesome. Just noticed I get it completely free anyway. Thanks Gom. | ||
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Corwintt
Bulgaria85 Posts
Edit: Ouch, the casters... | ||
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OGKruemmel
Croatia270 Posts
Great Job | ||
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archonOOid
1983 Posts
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w.s
Sweden850 Posts
On September 09 2011 19:30 Serelitz wrote: Finding good korean protosses that have been in the spotlight for a while (e.g. have a fanbase) is rather hard :'). I don't see any of the protosses making it to playoffs sadly. My bet: MMA MVP July Losira alicia would make be so much better than trickster l0ol | ||
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Elem
Sweden4717 Posts
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DreamOen
Spain1400 Posts
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
Oh no! I have all of them except one :/ Anyway, great idea gom! Looking forward to it. | ||
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CruelZeratul
Germany4588 Posts
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gehgrfhgrh
Germany294 Posts
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shrinkmaster
Germany947 Posts
I was seconds away from ordering the 4.99 packet, when i read that the casters will be moletrap/doa. When i read the title "Arena of Legends" i stupidly assumed that the casters would be legendary too. | ||
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Katgram
France45 Posts
On September 09 2011 20:22 Roggay wrote: "As a special present we will issue the premium ticket for free to all our loyal supporters who have bought every season ticket since Open Season 1 until now (including GSL October):" Oh no! I have all of them except one :/ Anyway, great idea gom! Looking forward to it. Same here, I missed the first one. But I'll be glad to pay $5 for this! | ||
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FreudianTrip
Switzerland1983 Posts
Just really annoying. edit: Oh Moletrap/Dota casting. Don't care so much now anyway. | ||
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Otak
United Kingdom110 Posts
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Kazeyonoma
United States2912 Posts
On September 09 2011 20:23 shrinkmaster wrote: I'm glad for the people who bought every season ticket to finally get something in return, but i'm not paying for it. I was seconds away from ordering the 4.99 packet, when i read that the casters will be moletrap/doa. When i read the title "Arena of Legends" i stupidly assumed that the casters would be legendary too. I don't see anywhere on the gom site that the casters have been announced. Is it all just speculating here on tl? Has mr chae made it official and I'm missing something? Cuz I've seen this stated over and over again yet I see no proof of no tastosis. | ||
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
This is just getting stupid now | ||
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shrinkmaster
Germany947 Posts
On September 09 2011 20:28 Kazeyonoma wrote: I don't see anywhere on the gom site that the casters have been announced. Is it all just speculating here on tl? Has mr chae made it official and I'm missing something? Cuz I've seen this stated over and over again yet I see no proof of no tastosis. I read about moletrap/doa casting this on TL in this thread, so most likely it's just speculation, but i won't spend money until i'm absolutely sure. | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38255 Posts
On September 09 2011 20:30 floor exercise wrote: People complain about terrans, GOM sells racially balanced tournament. This is just getting stupid now More like some dedicated subs whined that people were getting to watch free VODs for GOM's anniversary while they got nothing extra...so GOM very kindly made them something...and balanced the compositon nicely while doing so =p | ||
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Phyxx
Denmark681 Posts
On September 09 2011 20:28 Kazeyonoma wrote: I don't see anywhere on the gom site that the casters have been announced. Is it all just speculating here on tl? Has mr chae made it official and I'm missing something? Cuz I've seen this stated over and over again yet I see no proof of no tastosis. Yeah same here. Could you please post a link to the caster statement? It would really suck if tastosis wasn't casting such a stacked tournament. | ||
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carloselcoco
United States2302 Posts
I am watching this for sure!!!! | ||
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BigLighthouse
United Kingdom424 Posts
Screw that I've put in $145 to your bloody streams already so you can sod off if you're going to give me the "not loyal enough" rubbish. It smarts real bad. I get that its "only $5" but I think I might actually pass on this one on principle. Also, you guys would be crucifying other events if they didnt offer a free stream at all, especially when the HQ and vod quality for GOM is worse than your average free stream | ||
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
Anyway, it's pretty cool I guess. Doesn't feel like they got "the best of the best" in here, but I'll still watch. For all those who are saying Trickster is undeserving, he seems more deserving than Naniwa to me, and has been performing better recently than BoxeR. I'm actually really surprised to see BoxeR in there instead of NaDa. | ||
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Funkydonky
950 Posts
edit: to poster below, dont u think nada is more recognized than mma ? | ||
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
On September 09 2011 20:42 hrvoje07 wrote: IMHO, nada should be in here, he deserves it more than mma and boxer for sure... It's not about who deserves what, it's about who is more likely to sell more passes to foreigners | ||
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SanI579
Scotland14 Posts
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sLBraemar
Canada285 Posts
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Kazeyonoma
United States2912 Posts
On September 09 2011 20:32 shrinkmaster wrote: I read about moletrap/doa casting this on TL in this thread, so most likely it's just speculation, but i won't spend money until i'm absolutely sure. So basically no one knows yet but people are already complaining about no tastosis when it still might be them? Oh tl.net. Ill ask via twitter to see if I can get a quick response. | ||
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
On September 09 2011 20:42 hrvoje07 wrote: IMHO, nada should be in here, he deserves it more than mma and boxer for sure... edit: to poster below, dont u think nada is more recognized than mma ? It's the same way i felt when July wasn't invited to the TSL , but i guess we can't have them all . Which is sad in a way , because Nada and Bomber at least deserve to be there . | ||
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xlat
176 Posts
Regardless of if any player might or might not belong in the line up it is still great and will bring some great games and entertainment. | ||
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WArped
United Kingdom4845 Posts
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Marksofshame
Canada41 Posts
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PHILtheTANK
United States1834 Posts
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BabyKnight
Denmark112 Posts
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Sina92
Sweden1303 Posts
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LayZRR
Germany449 Posts
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Zoric
Sweden14 Posts
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Athox
Norway64 Posts
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bellhop
United States165 Posts
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fortheGG
United Kingdom1002 Posts
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Nizaris
Belgium2230 Posts
yay for no nada, bomber or polt, no endless tvts. | ||
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UnholyRai
720 Posts
lol. | ||
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shockaslim
United States1104 Posts
On September 09 2011 21:03 The_13abyKnight wrote: Group B = Group of number 2's :p Losira won code A.... | ||
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Tortious_Tortoise
United States944 Posts
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ZergX
France436 Posts
Sick event ! Thank you | ||
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danbel1005
United States1319 Posts
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
On September 09 2011 20:06 TheTurk wrote: Group C O.O Also, Trickster?..... edit: TASTOSIS ISN'T CASTING??? D'''^=) tastosis isn't casting? major plus. oh wait, that tester thing. think i'll still pass. | ||
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pinball777
United States134 Posts
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siewkeat
282 Posts
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UnholyRai
720 Posts
On September 09 2011 21:45 siewkeat wrote: why is trickster there he's a legend of the beta | ||
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Convalescence
Denmark91 Posts
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Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
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ramon
Germany4842 Posts
people give trickster too much shit, he is probably better than anyone in pool d, huk and mkp (don't think about the race the play, just about the actual skill) - without even training much | ||
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zyzq
United States3123 Posts
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TolEranceNA
Canada434 Posts
I haven't seen it in GSL for a bit of time.... | ||
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Jampackedeon
United States2053 Posts
$5 to watch my favorite players duke it out? I'll pay that! Excited to see that pool play! | ||
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DuB phool
United States1003 Posts
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oiceth
Australia35 Posts
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silverstyle
Singapore1108 Posts
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TheSilverfox
Sweden1928 Posts
On September 09 2011 20:36 Cel.erity wrote: Hmm, why isn't Jinro in this, if they chose the players based on all-star rankings? Anyway, it's pretty cool I guess. Doesn't feel like they got "the best of the best" in here, but I'll still watch. For all those who are saying Trickster is undeserving, he seems more deserving than Naniwa to me, and has been performing better recently than BoxeR. I'm actually really surprised to see BoxeR in there instead of NaDa. I think GOMTV don't want another Terran in their lineup. They know that Code S is starting to become GOMTvT. They chose a Foreign Protoss instead to even it out. That's what I think at least. | ||
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tombola
41 Posts
Trickster and Nani are maybe not as fitting for this tournament but I guess they'll do fine. I'm really excited for the Nestea vs. MMA rematch especially when this is a Bo3 and not a Bo1 like in GSL August. Still I think MVP if he stays in his current shape or someone like Nestea doesn't improve a lot will take this. He seems so unbeatable right now and I excpect him to take Blizzcon and maybe even GSL October aswell. As for the 5$: Really guys? Go mow the lawn of your neighbour and they'll pay you 5$. Considering the production value of the GomTV broadcasts it is a justified fee. Remember the NASL? That was for free and they couldn't even start the matches on time. I also hope that Dan and Nick will cast this since the Code A casters with the exception of Wolf aren't that great... | ||
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Mikey
United States277 Posts
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Dimon87
Sweden218 Posts
Really like this idea and the premium ticket is cheap as well, can't wait! | ||
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
On September 09 2011 22:22 Mikey wrote: how were players determined? i feel as if some of them aren't quite legends. "We like money, let's get a bunch of popular players together, and charge foreigners money to watch them play for a pitifully small prize pool" | ||
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Dac
Canada538 Posts
On September 09 2011 22:30 floor exercise wrote: "We like money, let's get a bunch of popular players together, and charge foreigners money to watch them play for a pitifully small prize pool" That is a small prize pool. crazy. (1856 U.S. dollars first place, half for second, a quarter semis) but to add to your made up quote: "oh and since we are making it up lets avoid mirrors, lets do z t p groups" | ||
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br0fivE
Canada349 Posts
On September 09 2011 20:03 Plexa wrote: Yeah I'm not going to be paying. I have a feeling the koreans will be getting this for free like everything else anyway. Agreed. Once it said "premium members only" i disregarded this, ill just check the results page thats more than satisfying enough. | ||
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kineticSYN
United States909 Posts
lovin it GOM, will continue to support&purchase season tickets as always =) edit: oh goddammit its moletrap and doa, guess i'll have to mute through every match -_- | ||
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kineticSYN
United States909 Posts
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
I'm not going to lie, I've been mooching the free stream since day 1, but this might be the thing to finally get me to pay up. Only $4.99 plus a list of players that I can't resist (except for Trickster). | ||
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awesomoecalypse
United States2235 Posts
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Ballack
Norway821 Posts
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choe
Germany86 Posts
there are indeed great players in it, but paying for it is just wrong! it will just show gomtv that they can make more money if they arent doin the free streaming. it is just wrong to take starcraft 2 as a source of money! | ||
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farnham
1378 Posts
meh ill pay em and get ma content! | ||
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gejfsyd
Poland156 Posts
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antilyon
Brazil2546 Posts
On September 09 2011 22:12 ramon wrote: people give trickster too much shit, he is probably better than anyone in pool d, huk and mkp (don't think about the race the play, just about the actual skill) - without even training much Trickster? That guy who went 2-3 on MLG?Yes, he must be way better than Huk or MKP -_- | ||
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Artok
Netherlands2219 Posts
On September 09 2011 22:36 br0fivE wrote: Agreed. Once it said "premium members only" i disregarded this, ill just check the results page thats more than satisfying enough. are you so poor that you can't pay 5$ or what? | ||
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onlinerobbe
Germany547 Posts
don't care how many times this has been said :o no nada? :'( ps: seems like a nice tournament, looking forward to it (even tho a tourney with legend in its name not including nada is .. weird^^) | ||
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Devil Trigger
United States107 Posts
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magnaflow
Canada1521 Posts
And as someone said earlier, I guess I will watch this muted | ||
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amd098
Korea (North)1366 Posts
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SomeONEx
Sweden641 Posts
Looks awesome otherwise... | ||
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MrMotionPicture
United States4327 Posts
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oZe
Sweden492 Posts
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LovE-
United States1963 Posts
This is awesome! | ||
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oogieogie
United States3657 Posts
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drdreggor
Sweden207 Posts
On September 09 2011 22:49 choe wrote: please, please dont support this tournament. there are indeed great players in it, but paying for it is just wrong! it will just show gomtv that they can make more money if they arent doin the free streaming. it is just wrong to take starcraft 2 as a source of money! Wait what? How do you expect them to keep hosting awesome tournaments with high production value, without any money to support it? And do you think Esports would even exist if people would think that it's wrong to use games, including SC2 as an income? Paying for shit shows your appreciation and you support the company that is providing the service. Esports cant run on just passion. | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
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Lorch
Germany3682 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:14 Nydaeli wrote: Nice to see a tournament with equal race representation. My thoughts exactly, I'll certainly buy it, especially given that it's only 5 dollar. | ||
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BigLighthouse
United Kingdom424 Posts
On September 09 2011 23:01 Artok wrote: are you so poor that you can't pay 5$ or what? Sometimes my friend it isnt about an ability to pay, but a lack of desire to. There is SO much good starcraft that we can watch for free, at a higher quality than even the GOMtv premium that people are perfectly entitled to feel put off by the price tag. And dont have a go at me, ive paid for all but 1 of the GOMtv seasons (yes haha im not getting this free ffs) and im a little annoyed at this. I dont have a problem with the $5 but I do with the fact that its compulsory if you want to watch. So im not going to watch it. | ||
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Airship
United States465 Posts
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Jakkerr
Netherlands2549 Posts
no free stream is such a joke, how can you still take the GSL serious if their free quality on the the main tournament is awful and now they start making payment only tournaments. I guess Starcraft II really has a hard time in Korea if they need to take such actions. edit: oh and I know its only $5 which I can easily afford, I'm just not willing to pay to watch a Starcraft tournament when any other tournament/organization out there has a free stream running on proper quality. | ||
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PrideNeverDie
United States319 Posts
however i'd pay more if we could add the sage or seal in this | ||
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blahz0r
3030 Posts
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Airship
United States465 Posts
edit: this was aimed at Jakkerr | ||
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Goibon
New Zealand8185 Posts
Could be a good history lesson too. A lol @ the quota protoss in group B. I hope he proves his haters (me) wrong. | ||
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Jakkerr
Netherlands2549 Posts
On September 09 2011 23:30 Airship wrote: They don't need to offer a free stream at all, you're lucky that they do. It's worth paying for, so people pay for it. It's kind of how business works. And they'll do very well with this, it will most likely be a high quality show as usual, well worth the measly $5, and frankly losing people like you leeching their bandwidth who will clearly never pay for anything is probably for the best. edit: this was aimed at Jakkerr is that so? For any healthy broadcasting organization, advertisement should be their main source of income, not memberships. As we all know, advertisement income gets generated by the amount of viewers and the amount of available companies that are willing to invest. If that isn't the case for GOM, which seems to be true otherwise they wouldn't do this, there is something majorly wrong with ur organization. That's why I'm worried GSL might have money problems. | ||
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dormer
United States1314 Posts
I am curious about who's casting, though. With such a great player lineup I really wish they'd get Tastosis to do it.. We'll see what happens. | ||
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pleskator
Czech Republic40 Posts
Also, Suigentoo... Can't tell if trolling or just that fucking dumb :D | ||
Waxangel
United States33388 Posts
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gogogadgetflow
United States2583 Posts
Holy crap I've paid them $170!. Thats like a 2 whole days of work for a whole year of entertainment! | ||
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Vul
United States685 Posts
On September 09 2011 23:30 Airship wrote: They don't need to offer a free stream at all, you're lucky that they do. It's worth paying for, so people pay for it. It's kind of how business works. And they'll do very well with this, it will most likely be a high quality show as usual, well worth the measly $5, and frankly losing people like you leeching their bandwidth who will clearly never pay for anything is probably for the best. edit: this was aimed at Jakkerr This is a really ignorant thing to say. When people watch a tournament, even on the free stream, they are contributing by increasing the popularity of the show, which is what sponsors care about. | ||
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Airship
United States465 Posts
On September 09 2011 23:41 Vul wrote: This is a really ignorant thing to say. When people watch a tournament, even on the free stream, they are contributing by increasing the popularity of the show, which is what sponsors care about. I understand this, but gomtv's tournaments have been pretty firmly established now as the spotlight premier stacraft 2 leagues. If the free stream made them that much money, they'd have no reason not to offer it. They obviously want to move more towards a membership orientated business plan, at least with regards to fringe tournaments, and I hate to break it to you but they're popular enough to be able to do that. More to the point though, that doesn't change the fact that we all know it's worth the $5. | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
NesTea, LosirA, Mvp, and NaNiwa! HuK got the hardest group though lol | ||
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Airship
United States465 Posts
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PimpWilly
United States228 Posts
I can't get excited over that, the same reason I can't get excited over NASL. It's not the same if the players aren't there in person. I'm conflicted because some of the matches looks awesome and it's trying to avoid all the tvt domination we've been seeing, but I'm on the fence because of this one issue. | ||
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gogogadgetflow
United States2583 Posts
On September 09 2011 23:41 Vul wrote: This is a really ignorant thing to say. When people watch a tournament, even on the free stream, they are contributing by increasing the popularity of the show, which is what sponsors care about. yeah everyone who contributes to the numbers gom can report to its advertisers is definitely a gom supporter.Even the ones who watch the free stream at korean time are subject to pepsi advertising and the like. There are some people who cheat the system but the vast majority (I hope) do not. Of course if Gom doesn't want to offer that option for this tournament, its up to their discretion. Its not for anyone to say that viewers should buy tickets or that gom should offer a free stream. | ||
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Jakkerr
Netherlands2549 Posts
On September 09 2011 23:44 Airship wrote: I understand this, but gomtv's tournaments have been pretty firmly established now as the spotlight premier stacraft 2 leagues. If the free stream made them that much money, they'd have no reason not to offer it. They obviously want to move more towards a membership orientated business plan, at least with regards to fringe tournaments, and I hate to break it to you but they're popular enough to be able to do that. More to the point though, that doesn't change the fact that we all know it's worth the $5. And what u just said is exactly what they shouldn't do. They would make themselves effectively reliable of the fans, a business would ONLY try this as an effort to gain more money because there aren't enough companies that are willing to invest in korean SC2. Money from the public is never a reliable and steady source of income, which any company needs. Maybe I'm exaggerating and there aren't any problems, but I know what I'm talking about and this way of 'doing business' sounds very strange to me. | ||
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Airship
United States465 Posts
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gogogadgetflow
United States2583 Posts
On September 09 2011 23:48 Jakkerr wrote: And what u just said is exactly what they shouldn't do. They would make themselves effectively reliable of the fans, a business would ONLY try this as an effort to gain more money because there aren't enough companies that are willing to invest in korean SC2. Money from the public is never a reliable and steady source of income, which any company needs. Maybe I'm exaggerating and there aren't any problems, but I know what I'm talking about and this way of 'doing business' sounds very strange to me. No ill manner intended, but what are your business credentials | ||
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KingVietKong
United States170 Posts
I think someone went so far as to say using SC2 to make money is wrong.... that's worth checking back on... On September 09 2011 22:49 choe wrote: please, please dont support this tournament. there are indeed great players in it, but paying for it is just wrong! it will just show gomtv that they can make more money if they arent doin the free streaming. it is just wrong to take starcraft 2 as a source of money! Yea this is pure retardery. This is basically saying "I don't want esports to exist in any fashion." It makes a blanket statement about the company, going so far as to imply that the free stream will disappear because a six day tournament got a couple thousand people to chuck in five dollars. If you don't dig this tournament, that's fine. I probably won't be paying for it either, the value seems somewhat low overall in the current field of online tournaments and I don't feel like I'll be missing out on the overall GSL storyline by missing it. But the second you start to somehow question the morality of this move (which a surprisingly high number of people are) is the moment you complete invalidate yourself and your argument. Questioning the business sense, now that I can see. | ||
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Juanald
United States354 Posts
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bucckevin
858 Posts
go collect some cans. | ||
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blackbrrd
Norway477 Posts
On September 10 2011 00:00 bucckevin wrote: The people complaining here about it not being free are a joke. Oh look at me, I can't pay $5 bucks to see pro stars play! I used to always see free streams!! FREE FREE FREE ME ME ME! I don't support gomtv or esports! Gom is greedy. SC2 should be free! Look at me! go collect some cans. Personally, I wondered where Thorzain was! :D I thought I was going to get it free, but it turns out I freeloaded during the first and/or second tournament. Bought all the tickets after that though. Whatever to the 5$, it's half the price of a beer here. | ||
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kilolo
Sweden150 Posts
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Deadeight
United Kingdom1629 Posts
Great idea with one of each race in the group stage, I personally (and I think it's the same for everyone) prefer non-mirror matchups. Great pick of players, really looking forward to this. Anyone know who's casting? | ||
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bucckevin
858 Posts
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purecarnagge
719 Posts
On September 10 2011 00:00 Juanald wrote: im not gonna lie im a bit disapointed to see drewbie wasnt invited.. other than that cool news This is the whose who of sc2 esports. Drewbie isn't even on the radar in Korea. Why would he be invited? | ||
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ZenViper
Korea (South)115 Posts
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SgtPepper
United States568 Posts
Still though, this will be sick. I wish they were still doing the free stream. | ||
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Darpa
Canada4413 Posts
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Juanald
United States354 Posts
On September 10 2011 00:14 purecarnagge wrote: This is the whose who of sc2 esports. Drewbie isn't even on the radar in Korea. Why would he be invited? this is an arena of legends and drewbie is a legend on the foreign scene. oldschool pro since retail. he might not have the same celebrity in korea as america but a tourney like this is the best place for him to proof himself | ||
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SgtPepper
United States568 Posts
On September 10 2011 00:17 Darpa wrote: I would definitly pay for these if I didnt have to watch them at 3am everytime. If they could start them at the same time they start code A (9pm PST, 11Pm EST) then it wouldnt be an issue. But Im tired of staying up until 3am for 2 games on work days >< Yeah, I definitely hear that. Oh well, I'll probably still end up paying for it. Too many good games. | ||
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Vorenius
Denmark1979 Posts
On September 10 2011 00:18 Juanald wrote: this is an arena of legends and drewbie is a legend on the foreign scene. oldschool pro since retail. he might not have the same celebrity in korea as america but a tourney like this is the best place for him to proof himself purecarnagge just got trolled. Or so I very sincerely hope :s | ||
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KingVietKong
United States170 Posts
On September 10 2011 00:18 Juanald wrote: this is an arena of legends and drewbie is a legend on the foreign scene. oldschool pro since retail. he might not have the same celebrity in korea as america but a tourney like this is the best place for him to proof himself Drewbie is solid but he is not a legend, not even in the foreign scene. There are very few, and even those who could be called legends are all done so 'arguably' or 'relatively speaking.' Drewbie definitely doesn't belong on this. | ||
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Jakkerr
Netherlands2549 Posts
On September 10 2011 00:18 Juanald wrote: this is an arena of legends and drewbie is a legend on the foreign scene. oldschool pro since retail. he might not have the same celebrity in korea as america but a tourney like this is the best place for him to proof himself come on man... I don't want to playerbash. but come on... | ||
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JosephFoU
Afghanistan16 Posts
No free stream available is pretty lame tbh. I had been GomTV fan for a long time, I have watched all their content (GSL, GSTL, WC, Code A Quailfier, Yellow) through free stream and I wish they would make this one free as well. I just feel that this has to be free. | ||
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shrinkmaster
Germany947 Posts
Currently it's not confirmed which casters will cover the Arena of Legends tournament. Maybe i'm a big pessimist, but why do they even need to think about who should be casting this unless there is the possibility that doa/moletrap will be the casters. | ||
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taLbuk
Madagascar1879 Posts
On September 10 2011 00:22 JosephFoU wrote: As a special present we will issue the premium ticket for free to all our loyal supporters who have bought every season ticket since Open Season 1 until now (including GSL October) No free stream available lame tbh. I had been GomTV fan for a long time, I have watched all their content (GSL, GSTL, WC, Code A Quailfier, Yellow) through free stream and I wish they would make this one free as well. I just feel that this has to be free. I agree, it is nice they are gifting the stream to their very loyal customers, and even though this event is only five dollars, the content should be free, beleive it or not just "payment" alone is a huge barrier to the amount of viewers they could get, and in the end viewers attract sponsors. But really they aren't in desperate searches of sponsors so maybe they are just using the event to gauge reaction and turnout. | ||
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Zirith
Canada403 Posts
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ArchDC
Malaysia1996 Posts
On September 10 2011 00:14 purecarnagge wrote: This is the whose who of sc2 esports. Drewbie isn't even on the radar in Korea. Why would he be invited? Don't feed the troll.... Btw, anyone on TL (i.e. has roof, internet, electricity, water, probably educated, etc.) who is allegedly a fan of great SC2 but so cheap they cannot fork out $5 should go fly a kite. It costs a nice meal in certain places (Asia due to currency exchange) or a crap meal in others (particularly Europe due to exchange rate again). If you think its the 'principle' of the matter (hence not gonna pay), then bitch only when it becomes some exhorbitant $50 or something. The free low quality stream will probably be available for sometime as they need to continually try and build the fan base (younger kids growing up and the incoming windfall from HOTS etc.) but they definitely do not need to make everything free. More money going into the scene will lead to more talent going into the scene (casters, production, players, etc.). It's simple economics. | ||
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Jacobs Ladder
United States1705 Posts
, Group D: July and Nani .MMA v Nestea is going to be a really good series. | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
![[image loading]](http://img.gomtv.net/img/banner/league_pick_img_0907.gif) From GSL October page By the way, the code A prelim VODs are up. edit : Saw sjow, I thought it was a presentation of the Arena players. Sorry :p | ||
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ReboundEU
508 Posts
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SadMachine
United States98 Posts
HuK's group is really tough, BUT both MVP and DRG's worst MU is against Protoss, so maybe he will have a chance... That is if the new patch is out by then... Otherwise the continued failure of all Protoss will be continued in this tournament... | ||
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Fuoeh
Netherlands486 Posts
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Funkydonky
950 Posts
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Ballack
Norway821 Posts
On September 10 2011 00:32 Jacobs Ladder wrote: Group A: Nestea and MMA advance, Group B: Losira and MKP, Group C: DRG and MVP , Group D: July and Nani .MMA v Nestea is going to be a really good series. Only 1st place in each grp advance.. | ||
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olbas
United States53 Posts
On September 10 2011 00:48 hrvoje07 wrote: Can someone tell me if koreans have to pay for this aswell? Koreans get all GSL stuff free. | ||
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rAsEk
Mexico15 Posts
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Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
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koppik
United States676 Posts
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FreudianTrip
Switzerland1983 Posts
On September 10 2011 00:29 ArchDC wrote: Don't feed the troll.... Btw, anyone on TL (i.e. has roof, internet, electricity, water, probably educated, etc.) who is allegedly a fan of great SC2 but so cheap they cannot fork out $5 should go fly a kite. It costs a nice meal in certain places (Asia due to currency exchange) or a crap meal in others (particularly Europe due to exchange rate again). If you think its the 'principle' of the matter (hence not gonna pay), then bitch only when it becomes some exhorbitant $50 or something. The free low quality stream will probably be available for sometime as they need to continually try and build the fan base (younger kids growing up and the incoming windfall from HOTS etc.) but they definitely do not need to make everything free. More money going into the scene will lead to more talent going into the scene (casters, production, players, etc.). It's simple economics. Where are you buying meals for 5 bucks in Europe? I went out to dinner last week at one of the cheapest places in town. 35 dollars each. And now I can't afford said 5 dollars +( | ||
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Dub_doubt
United States86 Posts
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MooLen
Germany501 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:22 anonymitylol wrote: IMNesTea SlayerS_BoxeR oGsMC IMLosirA IMMvp EGHuK MVPDongRaeGu SlayerS_MMA Dignitas.NaNiwa StarTaleJuly MarineKingPrime.WE StarTale_TricKsteR One of these does not belong... agreed | ||
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ElusoryX
Singapore2047 Posts
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
Terran: Bomber, PuMa, Polt, *insert one of GanZi/Taeja/Ryung* Protoss: Alicia, Puzzle, HongUn, HerO Zerg: CoCa, Leenock, FruitDealer, LosirA Then have the top TWO from each group advance. | ||
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Mobius_1
United Kingdom2763 Posts
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Shichibukai
Sweden355 Posts
On September 10 2011 01:13 FreudianTrip wrote: Where are you buying meals for 5 bucks in Europe? I went out to dinner last week at one of the cheapest places in town. 35 dollars each. And now I can't afford said 5 dollars +( Switzerland prices o_O ?! In Sweden you can get a pizza for 7 $ in some places, and a fast food meal for 8-10 depending on size. 5 seems a bit low, depending on your definition of "a meal" (no, a single hot dog and a soda is not a meal ^_^) I never bought a single ticket until the ongoing GSTL was announced. And after buying that, the 10 $ for GSL August seemed like a drop in the ocean, will probably continue to buy every season ticket from now on. Including this one.  Go GSL! | ||
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drlame
Sweden574 Posts
On September 10 2011 01:16 VirgilSC2 wrote: To be honest I think it would have been better if they did 4 groups of 6. There's certainly enough players they could invite, just add: Terran: Bomber, PuMa, Polt, *insert one of GanZi/Taeja/Ryung* Protoss: Alicia, Puzzle, HongUn, HerO Zerg: CoCa, Leenock, FruitDealer, LosirA Then have the top TWO from each group advance. Losira's in it.... | ||
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
-_- I just had the biggest moron moment ever. Oh well, just replace LosirA with someone like Zenio or even a TeamLeague star like BboongBboong. | ||
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MichaelDonovan
United States1453 Posts
I would also like to note that group A is the group of death. Anyone agree? | ||
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Jongl0
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bucckevin
858 Posts
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Olinim
4044 Posts
MC 2 - 0 MMA MMA 2 - 0 Nestea Nestea 2- 0 MC Is actually a pretty likely scenario. | ||
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sAsThark
France27 Posts
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DelRax
Australia54 Posts
I don't know why people are whining about this, it's not as if GOM is about to slap a mandatory ticket purchase on every event, and after providing the WC stream + VoD's for free, it seems unfair to attack them for this. | ||
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skrzmark
United States1528 Posts
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unoriginalname
England380 Posts
On September 10 2011 01:42 Olinim wrote: I wonder if we'll see a tiebreaker in group A. MC 2 - 0 MMA MMA 2 - 0 Nestea Nestea 2- 0 MC Is actually a pretty likely scenario. Ahahahaha ahaha ah. That was pretty funny. If it's the opening match I guess there is a chance, but if MMA needs that match to advance he'll 1-1-1 his way to the top. | ||
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showBanquo
Sweden182 Posts
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ptrpb
Canada753 Posts
Artosis hasn't been that wrong in the past either.. Clide was really strong until other people caught up, same with Alicia. PuMa recently has been pretty dominate. | ||
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chokke
Norway228 Posts
I was going to stop watching GSL to focus school (sent 11 AM for me), but why you do this? Where should my time go.... | ||
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Vorenius
Denmark1979 Posts
On September 10 2011 01:42 Olinim wrote: I wonder if we'll see a tiebreaker in group A. MC 2 - 0 MMA MMA 2 - 0 Nestea Nestea 2- 0 MC Is actually a pretty likely scenario. That's not a very likely scenario :o With the way MC has been doing lately and TvP being what it is I'm not evne sure he is the favourite in that MU. Much less a clear 2-0. And Nestea losing 2-0? Sure it's ZvT but Nestea is still the best sc2 player in the world right now. I don't care if he does have a weak MU, he's still the favourite against anyone but MVP, his cryptonite. EDIT: Nestea should beat MC 2-0 though, unless MC can pull out something spectacular. | ||
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Ownos
United States2147 Posts
On September 09 2011 23:01 Artok wrote: are you so poor that you can't pay 5$ or what? Probably young and doesn't have a source of income. | ||
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Lorch
Germany3682 Posts
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
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bucckevin
858 Posts
On September 10 2011 02:12 Cel.erity wrote: Sorry but I have to throw in a small whine here: WHY are the code A casters casting everything? At first they were hired to give Tastosis a small break, but now it seems like Tastosis barely do anything at Gom. I know they travel a lot and such, but if they're your primary commentators, why do you use them only 33% of the time? It seems really backwards to me. cause they're prima donnas now. they're star casters who can only cast big star events. they only cast like 3 days a week or something like that right? they must have a lot of free time. | ||
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Olinim
4044 Posts
On September 10 2011 01:59 Vorenius wrote: That's not a very likely scenario :o With the way MC has been doing lately and TvP being what it is I'm not evne sure he is the favourite in that MU. Much less a clear 2-0. And Nestea losing 2-0? Sure it's ZvT but Nestea is still the best sc2 player in the world right now. I don't care if he does have a weak MU, he's still the favourite against anyone but MVP, his cryptonite. EDIT: Nestea should beat MC 2-0 though, unless MC can pull out something spectacular. No nestea isn't the favorite...MMA is going to rape him. Sorry dude :/ And yes TvP is crap but MC beat both taeja and ryung who certainly have superior TvP than MMA. I doubt even in this state he would beat MC. | ||
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Madera
Sweden2672 Posts
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Amestir
Netherlands2126 Posts
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babylon
8765 Posts
On September 10 2011 02:20 Amestir wrote: Wait, how did Trickster get in this? The same way Naniwa got in there ... ? I'm pretty sure this event is a direct reaction to the number of Terrans in Code S right now. Racial diversity, people! Just look at that even distribution! | ||
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chokke
Norway228 Posts
On September 10 2011 02:16 Olinim wrote: No nestea isn't the favorite...MMA is going to rape him. Sorry dude :/ And yes TvP is crap but MC beat both taeja and ryung who certainly have superior TvP than MMA. I doubt even in this state he would beat MC. We've all seen the downfall of MC, so how should he win? | ||
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Pretzelz
United States9 Posts
On September 10 2011 02:28 babylon wrote: The same way Naniwa got in there ... ? I'm pretty sure this event is a direct reaction to the number of Terrans in Code S right now. Racial diversity, people! Just look at that even distribution! In my opinion someone like Puzzle deserves it more than Trickster. | ||
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Olinim
4044 Posts
On September 10 2011 02:30 chokke wrote: We've all seen the downfall of MC, so how should he win? Because MMA has a 40 percent winrate in TvP when MC is capable of beating much better terrans?(at that matchup) | ||
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
On September 10 2011 02:34 Olinim wrote: Because MMA has a 40 percent winrate in TvP when MC is capable of beating much better terrans?(at that matchup) Gotta agree with this. TvP is MMA's worst matchup and MC's best, meanwhile TvZ is by far MMA's most godly matchup, however...it's still going to be hard for him to take down Nestea, let alone 2-0. And even harder for MC to do it. I really don't think this will go to a tiebreak, but I hope I'm proven wrong. | ||
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Zefa
United States297 Posts
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Teejing
Germany1360 Posts
Do not support what you dont want. =) | ||
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
On September 10 2011 02:47 Zefa wrote: Gonna be so funny when the 4 people who advance end up being MMA, MKP, MVP, and Boxer. You mean MC, Naniwa, HuK and Tester? Yes, it will be glorious. | ||
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SaYyId
Portugal277 Posts
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bucckevin
858 Posts
On September 10 2011 02:49 Teejing wrote: Do not pay for it guys, because if many do pay it will be a success which will lead to many more of those events. Do not support what you dont want. =) I'll be glad to pay the measly $5 to watch the awesome matches. Please enjoy the f5 spamming in LR. | ||
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Manslayer
Chile150 Posts
On September 10 2011 02:51 Cel.erity wrote: You mean MC, Naniwa, HuK and Tester? Yes, it will be glorious. Yes, NesTea, LosirA, DongRaeGu and July advancing is going to be awesome | ||
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Incandenza
United States56 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:14 Nydaeli wrote: Nice to see a tournament with equal race representation. Totally agree. Looking forward to it. | ||
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babylon
8765 Posts
On September 10 2011 02:31 Pretzelz wrote: In my opinion someone like Puzzle deserves it more than Trickster. And Trickster and even HongUn deserve it far more than Naniwa. What's new? They'll pick who they want to pick, and who knows, maybe Puzzle declined. | ||
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Asymmetric
Scotland1309 Posts
On September 09 2011 21:42 pinball777 wrote: Seems like Naniwa can win his group. Would be interesting to watch. Naniwa looks about the only Protoss with a hope of getting out of there group. Admittedly both MVP and DRG have been known to look a bit shaky on occassion against protoss so maybe if the stars align Huk can do it. I think MC and Trickster though will need divine intervention to defeat Nestea/Losira's versus protoss. Those two zergs have simply stopped losing to Protoss. | ||
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wongfeihung
United States763 Posts
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johnnywup
United States3858 Posts
anyways, this is fucking awesome. can't wait. | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
On September 10 2011 02:12 Cel.erity wrote: Sorry but I have to throw in a small whine here: WHY are the code A casters casting everything? At first they were hired to give Tastosis a small break, but now it seems like Tastosis barely do anything at Gom. I know they travel a lot and such, but if they're your primary commentators, why do you use them only 33% of the time? It seems really backwards to me. I agree about the 2nd part, but do you have a source for who will cast this ? No casters were announced to my knowledge. I'll gladly pay if it's tastosis. | ||
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TheTofuShop
United States57 Posts
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aus.azure
Australia12 Posts
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devPLEASE
Kenya605 Posts
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navara
France95 Posts
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purecarnagge
719 Posts
I mean the other night he was yelling at pro's over baneling control and hell...doa had to be like a queen spawn they auto detonated...not much you can do when a queen pops out right on your banes... He also didn't understand check prime zoning banelings to only kill zerglings as he was trying to keep his ling count ahead of the other person and let his lingz finish the drones that were micro'd away and not mining but not clumping up to avoid banes on that 10pool rush. Guy has no understanding of pro level strategy/micro. | ||
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diverzee
Sweden992 Posts
On September 10 2011 03:28 TheTofuShop wrote: Holy crap, these groups are STACKED! This should make for some amazing group play. Gogo Nani and Huk! Foreigners hwaiting! Stacked yes. Awesome groups, yes. But I don't like Nani and Huk's chances with groups like those :'(! | ||
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Lumi
United States1612 Posts
very excited for this | ||
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MattyClutch
United States711 Posts
On September 10 2011 03:45 diverzee wrote: Stacked yes. Awesome groups, yes. But I don't like Nani and Huk's chances with groups like those :'(! They could always pull an underdog win. Would be pretty epic! But yeah they are stacked. | ||
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Brotatolol
United States1742 Posts
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Hrrrrm
United States2081 Posts
I'm not saying it's right, but it's EXACTLY what's going to happen without a free stream. You will get NOTHING instead of something. Reminds me of the whole Netflix vs Starz fiasco recently. | ||
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ArchDC
Malaysia1996 Posts
On September 10 2011 02:03 Ownos wrote: Probably young and doesn't have a source of income. His parents cannot afford to give him a $5 allowance to pay for this? Are watching these stars go at it worth less than the price (more or less) of a movie ticket? Just offer to do the dishes for a week (or some other chore currently not done) and earn some allowance? Omg... the spoilt whining.... | ||
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anrimayu
United States875 Posts
On September 10 2011 04:05 Hrrrrm wrote: Congratulations GOM, by removing the free stream option you have just secured people looking for the pirated VOD's that would've otherwise just sucked it up and woken up early to watch the tourney live. Not only will they find the VOD's for "AOL" but the VOD's for all your other stuff as well. Don't be surprised if those folks don't ever return. Always love it when businesses continue to shoot themselves in the foot. I'm not saying it's right, but it's EXACTLY what's going to happen without a free stream. You will get NOTHING instead of something. Reminds me of the whole Netflix vs Starz fiasco recently. Or you can shut your whining and buy a $5 ticket instead. Even a burger costs more than that. If there's enough people like you who expect everything for free, there really will be nothing. Besides, noone will miss people like you never returning. | ||
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On September 10 2011 04:07 ArchDC wrote: His parents cannot afford to give him a $5 allowance to pay for this? Are watching these stars go at it worth less than the price (more or less) of a movie ticket? Just offer to do the dishes for a week (or some other chore currently not done) and earn some allowance? Omg... the spoilt whining.... With young people, it's not usually the cost, but the fact that they have no means by which to pay the fee, not owning a creditcard or being eligible for an online payment system. | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
On September 10 2011 03:32 devPLEASE wrote: wait, no Tastosis. Not watching anymore. anyone know who is casting the Allstars match? Where are you seeing this ? | ||
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blahz0r
3030 Posts
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
On September 10 2011 04:24 blahz0r wrote: There's no information regarding that as far as I know. I think people are just making up stuff or quoting people making up stuff. If someone has a source, do link. Yeah, on each page people are saying this but even the first one who posted this has no source. | ||
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ArchDC
Malaysia1996 Posts
On September 10 2011 04:19 TotalBiscuit wrote: With young people, it's not usually the cost, but the fact that they have no means by which to pay the fee, not owning a creditcard or being eligible for an online payment system. If it is not having a credit card, kids who can surf TL and watch free streams (not some poor soul fighting for a roof, heat and water) definitely would have parents/uncles/aunts or someone they know well enough who would have one and can get said person to pay on behalf. Where there's a will there's a way. It's $5... anyone who has the luxury of watching streams on the net and surf TL cannot be saying this is too expensive whatever their means. I can understand this is too expensive for poor people or those without internet connection (they probably have bigger problems like trying to pay next month's rent and eating something other than potatoes all day) but they were never the target market to begin with anyway. TL kids bitching about this really need to grow up. | ||
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Strausticles
United States113 Posts
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THM
Bulgaria1131 Posts
I'm from Bulgaria where the minimum wage is 150 euro a month and even here 5$ is nothing... | ||
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HeroHenry
United States1723 Posts
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Soulish
Canada1403 Posts
On September 10 2011 02:55 bucckevin wrote: I'll be glad to pay the measly $5 to watch the awesome matches. Please enjoy the f5 spamming in LR. I'll not pay and watch chinese restreams tyvm | ||
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ZaaaaaM
Netherlands1828 Posts
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Taesis
Canada51 Posts
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
On September 10 2011 06:16 Soulish wrote: I'll not pay and watch chinese restreams tyvm Cool, have fun being a worthless piece of internet scum. Glad to see I'm not the only person more than happy to shell out the measly $5 to watch some amazing matchups. | ||
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yawnoC
United States3704 Posts
Looks similar to the 1 Year anniversary tournament though but that is NOTHING to complain about. | ||
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TurbineBlade
United States117 Posts
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
On September 10 2011 06:16 Soulish wrote: I'll not pay and watch chinese restreams tyvm You're killing esports. | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
On September 10 2011 05:47 THM wrote: Hahah I am laughing so hard at people saying they don't have 5$ to pay to watch the tournament :DD I'm from Bulgaria where the minimum wage is 150 euro a month and even here 5$ is nothing... QFT. I honestly don't get the complaining about $5 for an entire tournament. I pay 3 times that amount on a subscription to watch Football matches. Hell actually going to a stadium costs me more money than I've ever spent on SC2. edit: I guess everything is relative, but I can't imagine $5 being much for something you enjoy watching. | ||
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On September 10 2011 04:49 ArchDC wrote: If it is not having a credit card, kids who can surf TL and watch free streams (not some poor soul fighting for a roof, heat and water) definitely would have parents/uncles/aunts or someone they know well enough who would have one and can get said person to pay on behalf. Where there's a will there's a way. "Mommy, can I borrow your credit card?" "What for son?" "I want to watch Koreans kill each other in videogames." "You're grounded." Were you never a kid or something? Getting your parents to pay for random shit on the internet is hardly an easy thing for many of them. | ||
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
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Adebisi
Canada1637 Posts
On September 10 2011 07:04 TotalBiscuit wrote: "Mommy, can I borrow your credit card?" "What for son?" "I want to watch Koreans kill each other in videogames." "You're grounded." Were you never a kid or something? Getting your parents to pay for random shit on the internet is hardly an easy thing for many of them. Kids have it so easy these days... can't you go to a gas station and buy like a pre-paid $20 MasterCard or something... | ||
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TheRealPaciFist
United States1049 Posts
On September 10 2011 05:47 THM wrote: Hahah I am laughing so hard at people saying they don't have 5$ to pay to watch the tournament :DD I'm from Bulgaria where the minimum wage is 150 euro a month and even here 5$ is nothing... Even assuming that people who spend any sizable length of time watching Starcraft can afford $5 no problem doesn't mean that $5 is "nothing." People can spend their own money at their own discretion, and if they judge $5 to be an unreasonable price for a specific product, then that's their choice. | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
On September 10 2011 07:04 TotalBiscuit wrote: "Mommy, can I borrow your credit card?" "What for son?" "I want to watch Koreans kill each other in videogames." "You're grounded." Were you never a kid or something? Getting your parents to pay for random shit on the internet is hardly an easy thing for many of them. Not sure how much Paypal's policy has changed, but I owned a paypal account at the age of 14 and was paying most of my stuff online with it. edit: No I was 15, I have it for 7 years now. Point still stands though, once a service accepts a method other than creditcard things get a lot easier to make purchases. Which is great, because that means kids at least aren't paying for their porn. | ||
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jimchoi11
United States65 Posts
i would support gomtv but they don't give me an option to support them, other then buying tickets which i cant. so yea w/e | ||
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InvalidID
United States1050 Posts
On September 10 2011 07:21 Ysellian wrote: Not sure how much Paypal's policy has changed, but I owned a paypal account at the age of 14 and was paying most of my stuff online with it. edit: No I was 15, I have it for 7 years now. Point still stands though, once a service accepts a method other than creditcard things get a lot easier to make purchases. Which is great, because that means kids at least aren't paying for their porn. In the US pretty-much every standard free checking account comes with a debit card that acts as a VISA card or a master card linked to your bank account. I think at 15 I had one, and that was 10 years ago. | ||
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ArchDC
Malaysia1996 Posts
On September 10 2011 07:04 TotalBiscuit wrote: "Mommy, can I borrow your credit card?" "What for son?" "I want to watch Koreans kill each other in videogames." "You're grounded." Were you never a kid or something? Getting your parents to pay for random shit on the internet is hardly an easy thing for many of them. How about "Mom, can you help me pay this $5 on the net so I can watch some entertaining professional games? Cut that from my monthly allowance/ I'll do the dishes some other chore not being done / I'll cut down on my youtube watching / I'll ace my next paper / etc etc etc." If the kid is mature enough to read through TL forums (not that much required), they can find a way to get $5 paid online for them. The average SC2 player is probably in their teens so they have every capacity to be resourceful in getting $5 paid over the net. It may not be as simple as adults taking out their wallets but don't make it sound like this is something incredibly difficult... | ||
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SayHello
Czech Republic147 Posts
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babylon
8765 Posts
Chinese restreams and VODs are usually of a higher stream quality. You can actually see the supplies, for one. =/ (Comparing it to the free livestream of GSL matches, ofc.) | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On September 10 2011 05:47 THM wrote: Hahah I am laughing so hard at people saying they don't have 5$ to pay to watch the tournament :DD I'm from Bulgaria where the minimum wage is 150 euro a month and even here 5$ is nothing... I'm not going to pay to watch a tournament inferior to 10s of other tournaments that also are free, including code S. It's all about supply and demand. Really lame in my opinion, should just make revenue with sponsors. | ||
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Netsky
Australia1155 Posts
Trickster seems a little out of place in that list, but good luck to him. Great opportunity for HuK and Nani to get some results against top tier competition as well. | ||
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B.I.G.
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onedayclose
United States1145 Posts
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pyrodias
United States27 Posts
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DKR
United Kingdom622 Posts
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TemplarCo.
Mexico2870 Posts
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PimpWilly
United States228 Posts
On September 10 2011 08:47 DKR wrote: So 10 players were voted on + naniwa and whom else? That was different, those voted players are playing show matches before the finals tonight | ||
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TheGiftedApe
United States1243 Posts
edit: no free streams no free vods... | ||
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Rad
United States935 Posts
Someone else said Nada, and I think that's a better fit. First person that came to mind for me was Fruit Dealer. Even with as bad as he's been doing and as bad as he'd get whooped (about as bad as trickster is going to) I think his sc2 legendary status is easily up there in, say, top 5 (nestea, huk, mc, mvp, fruit dealer? not talking skill, but status). *edit* nm, I see they were going for 4 of each race. In that case, fly WhiteRa over there to take trickster's place. | ||
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Mobius_1
United Kingdom2763 Posts
On September 10 2011 08:04 babylon wrote: Chinese restreams and VODs are usually of a higher stream quality. You can actually see the supplies, for one. =/ (Comparing it to the free livestream of GSL matches, ofc.) I'm in China so I can only watch the restreams on NeoTV. (Gom stream gets stopped by the Great Wall) No you can't read the supplies clearly, it's pretty much the same as the SQ Gom stream. | ||
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babylon
8765 Posts
On September 10 2011 11:49 Mobius_1 wrote: I'm in China so I can only watch the restreams on NeoTV. (Gom stream gets stopped by the Great Wall) No you can't read the supplies clearly, it's pretty much the same as the SQ Gom stream. Really? Maybe I'm just remembering the NeoTV VODs, then. The colors are a little faded, but the supplies are otherwise very very clear compared to the SQ GOM livestream. (GOM VODs are better than the livestream in that you can read the numbers, though they're very blurry. Otherwise I can't tell when players go from two-digits to three-digits worth of supply.) | ||
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Trict
Canada182 Posts
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Myles
United States5162 Posts
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Trict
Canada182 Posts
On September 10 2011 14:14 Myles wrote: Just FYI to people since there's still talk about it even on this page - It appears that GOMTV has made today free, both SQ and HQ, I don't have a premium membership and am watching the HQ right now. This is an allstar match. The arena of legends doesn't start till the 17th. | ||
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Myles
United States5162 Posts
On September 10 2011 14:17 Trict wrote: This is an allstar match. The arena of legends doesn't start till the 17th. Yea, I realized that after looking around again. | ||
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StateAlchemist
France1946 Posts
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Markwerf
Netherlands3728 Posts
Seeing boxer automatically get placed in all these tournaments is just stupid too. He isn´t code A he shouldn´t just get tickets for his legendary status, why not place Nada? He would actually deserve the spot.. | ||
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MrTortoise
1388 Posts
This kind of think is exactly what i was bleeting for :D | ||
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leungwk01
United Kingdom1260 Posts
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OhMyGawd
United States264 Posts
Rather have seen Thorzain in it since nani and huk got in. | ||
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Pervect
1280 Posts
On September 10 2011 21:44 OhMyGawd wrote: Trickster.... Rather have seen Thorzain in it since nani and huk got in. Thorzain isn't in Korea anymore. I know it's online, but it still seems to be people currently in Korea.. or they just didn't try inviting any people not living in Korea?? And it's split as four of each race. | ||
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TheLight
Australia410 Posts
http://www.gomtv.net/2011aol/news/66124 states 15:00 KST The promotional poster and schedule states 17:00 KST | ||
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chokke
Norway228 Posts
On September 10 2011 21:08 StateAlchemist wrote: No NaDa That's not a good way to start a tournament. | ||
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Xpace
United States2209 Posts
Top Tier: SlayerSMMA, IMLosira, MarineKingPrime.WE, oGsMC Mid Tier: EGHuk, MVPDongRaeGu, StartaleJuly Low Tier: SlayerSBoxer, Dignitas.Naniwa, StartaleTricKsteR | ||
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SolidMustard
France1515 Posts
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hai2u
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BackSideAttack
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Warrior Madness
Canada3791 Posts
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TheLight
Australia410 Posts
On September 11 2011 02:06 Xpace wrote: God Tier: IMNestea, IMMvp Top Tier: SlayerSMMA, IMLosira, MarineKingPrime.WE, oGsMC Mid Tier: EGHuk, MVPDongRaeGu, StartaleJuly Low Tier: SlayerSBoxer, Dignitas.Naniwa, StartaleTricKsteR I fully agree. Looking forward to every game regardless. | ||
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Fatze
Germany1342 Posts
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parazice
Thailand5517 Posts
On September 11 2011 02:06 Xpace wrote: Legend Tier: SlayerSBoxer God Tier: IMNestea, IMMvp Top Tier: SlayerSMMA, IMLosira, MarineKingPrime.WE, oGsMC Mid Tier: MVPDongRaeGu, StartaleJuly Low Tier: Dignitas.Naniwa, StartaleTricKsteR, EGHuk fix that for you | ||
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DailYLeet
Germany827 Posts
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Pippi
Sweden540 Posts
On September 11 2011 06:34 BackSideAttack wrote: Man Naniwa really does not deserve to be invited to this tourney. I am disappoint. You shouldn't just get an invite for just being a foreigner. If he wants to get into these types of tournaments he needs to prove himself like Huk has. They weren't invited, they were voted for, so... yeah. But I guess every super forum hero needs something to whine about | ||
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Monkeybay
12 Posts
On September 11 2011 18:17 Pippi wrote: They weren't invited, they were voted for, so... yeah. But I guess every super forum hero needs something to whine about No. The voting was for the Allstar match before yesterday finals. | ||
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Monkeybay
12 Posts
Champions: Nestea, MVP (3 times each), MC (2 times) Finalists: MKP (3 times), Losira, MMA, July Semifinalist: BoxeR Round of 8: Trickster (3 times), HuK Code A Round of 16: DRG Code A Round of 32: NaNiwa | ||
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akalarry
United States1978 Posts
i can see how every on one of these players are "legends" though. great tournament nonetheless. | ||
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Dox
Australia1199 Posts
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Mimics
Denmark2 Posts
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Tuk
United Kingdom223 Posts
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Vandeam
Norway28 Posts
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eksert
France656 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:22 anonymitylol wrote: IMNesTea SlayerS_BoxeR oGsMC IMLosirA IMMvp EGHuK MVPDongRaeGu SlayerS_MMA Dignitas.NaNiwa StarTaleJuly MarineKingPrime.WE StarTale_TricKsteR One of these does not belong... yeah naniwa got in because he is foreigner... | ||
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Nephrite
Australia202 Posts
fixed again | ||
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parazice
Thailand5517 Posts
haha GJ | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
Go Naniwa! :D The hope of Protoss, the hope of foreigners (sorry huk... I just can't see you overcoming MVP right now :< But I can see DRG doing so.) | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:22 anonymitylol wrote: IMNesTea SlayerS_BoxeR oGsMC IMLosirA IMMvp EGHuK MVPDongRaeGu SlayerS_MMA Dignitas.NaNiwa StarTaleJuly MarineKingPrime.WE StarTale_TricKsteR Two of these does not belong... I fixed it for you | ||
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TeeTS
Germany2762 Posts
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Like a Boss
502 Posts
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urasyupi2
United States810 Posts
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phisku
Belgium864 Posts
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bustanut
United States76 Posts
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F00LY
United States125 Posts
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duk3
United States807 Posts
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Rkie
United States1278 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On September 09 2011 14:26 anonymitylol wrote: Get paid for just getting selected? Nice Nice to see dreams do come true lol My first impression of this was, 20 Terrans in Code S = huge drop in viewer count (likely including me). Then, I thought about it, and realized that with this, we get to see every non mirror matchup played at high level multiple times: it will be interesting and likely show a lot of creativity too. I know everyone loves boxer and he will magically win this thing, but I don't see how he fits into these groups skill-wise other than his prestige. Doesn't matter. This is his comeback tournament right here. | ||
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serra7
Germany10 Posts
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10341 Posts
Holy shit... THIS is what Code S should be like. I guess this is the idea I had. Anyways, I was thinking "Boxer july naniwa, pretty good group." Then I look at all the others and just SHIT BRICKS. Omg the players they grouped together are awesome, and it seems they did their best to balance. About Trickster, tbh he is fine there, he's not a tournament winner but he's still good. Though I think I would have preferred HongUn, who has had better results. But I guess it's for the Tester fans back in beta. Thorzain is not in though? Damn lol 4 AM that sucks for me. Edit: And yeah I would have preferred even HongUn to be in there instead of Naniwa, I guess it's for the foreigners though. He is, of course, a great player, but I don't get why they put in Trickster instead of HongUn. Maybe his wrist condition is even worse? If they put Tester there because of beta fame, they could have put in Genius, though I think Trickster has better results. Maybe they thought that Trickster was a big foreign favorite? (well he was back then, maybe they still think so) | ||
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IMNotMvp
Korea (South)530 Posts
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Jubio
United States50 Posts
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10341 Posts
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MoneyHypeMike
Canada305 Posts
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chocolatebunny
301 Posts
heres to epic games with new strats and all that stuff. | ||
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zYwi3c
Poland1811 Posts
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onedayclose
United States1145 Posts
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KaluGOSU
United States171 Posts
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sh4w
United States713 Posts
On September 12 2011 11:10 KaluGOSU wrote: what's the prize for this Prizes: 1st prize: 2.000.000 KRW - 1857 USD Runner-up: 1.000.000 KRW - 928 USD Semifinals: 500.000 KRW - 464 USD Group play: 300.000 KRW - 278 USD | ||
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
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BarbieHsu
574 Posts
On September 12 2011 10:40 onedayclose wrote: I can see why GOM hired 4 code A casters for this upcoming season. Looks like there will be matches 7 days a week once GSTL gets going and this new ALL-STAR league along with AoL. Hopefully Tastosis will continue to do their fair share of commentary while traveling to countless LAN events next month. Wondering what all the foreigners will be up to since they will likely be knocked out of Code A early and won't be able to qualify for next season until late October? Hopefully practicing hard and possibly latching on with a Korean pro team. I really think the current crop of casters is insufficient. Most of them appear clearly exhausted at the end of a long da0y's cast, especially at the end of tournaments. They run out of things to talk about. They repeat themselves. They need breaks. We need more casters. | ||
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red4ce
United States7313 Posts
edit: saw the prizepool posted above. Pretty small considering the caliber of players but it's better than nothing I guess. | ||
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KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
On September 11 2011 22:29 eksert wrote: yeah naniwa got in because he is foreigner... If they went by player "skill", then we'd have too many terrans. I think having some racial diversity is nice. | ||
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Toadish
United States9 Posts
maybe its just me but it has Huk playing T. just a mistake? | ||
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Clog
United States950 Posts
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Olinim
4044 Posts
On September 12 2011 13:22 Clog wrote: Trickster and Naniwa? Really? No offense to them, but there are a number of more deserving players in the GSL... (Bomber, NaDa, TOP some names that come to mind) Do we really need another league with 10 terrans and then if we're lucky MC and Nestea make it past the first round? :/ | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On September 12 2011 13:26 Olinim wrote: Do we really need another league with 10 terrans and then if we're lucky MC and Nestea make it past the first round? :/ Well, are you implying that Tester is a top 4 Protoss in the world (or even currently residing in Korea)? I'd rather see HerO tbh. -_- | ||
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Clog
United States950 Posts
On September 12 2011 13:26 Olinim wrote: Do we really need another league with 10 terrans and then if we're lucky MC and Nestea make it past the first round? :/ True, but even then, I don't think that's the best Protoss's they could choose from. | ||
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Olinim
4044 Posts
On September 12 2011 13:29 Talin wrote: Well, are you implying that Tester is a top 4 Protoss in the world (or even currently residing in Korea)? I'd rather see HerO tbh. -_- Tester is ok just inconsistent. Anyway the point is if we're inviting based on how "deserving" a player is then it would be Gom TvTvTvTvT all over again and no one wants to see that. | ||
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mprs
Canada2933 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:22 anonymitylol wrote: IMNesTea SlayerS_BoxeR oGsMC IMLosirA IMMvp EGHuK MVPDongRaeGu SlayerS_MMA Dignitas.NaNiwa StarTaleJuly MarineKingPrime.WE StarTale_TricKsteR One of these does not belong... You mean the three Code A players and one Code B player? But you are right. Out of all the players that reach top 8 every season, trickster is the worst of them. GSL 1: Top 8 GSL 2: DNQ GSL 3: DNQ Code S 1 (JAN): Top 8 (lost to Rainbow 2-0) Code S 2 (MAR): Top 16 (lost to sC 2-1) Code S 3 (MAY): Up and Down (3rd seed), made it back to Code S Super Tournament: Top 32 (lost to TheBest 2-1) Code S 4 (JUL): Top 8 (lost 3-2 to Losira) Code S 5 (AUG): Up and Down (4th seed), 2-4, and Code A Yes, he did fall to Code A. But so did MVP, MC, and MKP. And he is Protoss! | ||
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Moralez
Portugal1857 Posts
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Elem
Sweden4717 Posts
I'd rather have him instead of yet another terran or a lowtier foreigner. I'm more annoyed at pleayers like July and Tester who get in simply because there is close to none Zerg/Protoss representation because Korean Terran is overpowered. | ||
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Goldfish
2230 Posts
1. The first game of every match is free (for VODs). You can watch the first VOD for free then just read up on team liquid (liquid bets or LR thread) to see the results of the rest matches. Some first games are really epic too so it's not like the first games aren't a big deal or anything. 2. Special stuff like SC vs DRG and gomcam things (project A) for example are free. 3. World tournament. 4. The free VOD weekend. Also you can't compare this to MLG because GSL does this all the time while MLG does this once a week with a much smaller prize pool (only the finals bring good prize but even then 1st place in finals is only a few dollars higher than first place monthly GSL seasons). MLG also has other games too before SC2; MLG had time to build up while GSL just started out. Finally this is just an extra thing they're putting out and organizing. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On September 12 2011 16:27 Goldfish wrote: I know this has been already said but GOM has provided a lot of content for free over the year. 1. The first game of every match is free (for VODs). You can watch the first VOD for free then just read up on team liquid (liquid bets or LR thread) to see the results of the rest matches. Some first games are really epic too so it's not like the first games aren't a big deal or anything. 2. Special stuff like SC vs DRG and gomcam things (project A) for example are free. 3. World tournament. 4. The free VOD weekend. Also you can't compare this to MLG because GSL does this all the time while MLG does this once a week with a much smaller prize pool (only the finals bring good prize but even then 1st place in finals is only a few dollars higher than first place monthly GSL seasons). MLG also has other games too before SC2; MLG had time to build up while GSL just started out. Finally this is just an extra thing they're putting out and organizing. Gom was around before sc2. It does suck that they aren't having a free stream when every tournament out there has a free stream. Seems like an odd choice to me honestly. | ||
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mutantmagnet
United States3789 Posts
On September 09 2011 20:08 Kazeyonoma wrote: well here's what everyone wanted. a chance to see the best of the best duke it out without cheesey or so called "undeserving" players knocking them out before we see them in a championship level matchup. I don't see how we DONT see amazing games/playoffs from this. so excited! And i get it free for being a loyal subscriber. yay! So much irony in this statement the logical loop holes would overheat a super computer. | ||
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synapse
China13814 Posts
GL to HuK, tough group as well. | ||
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mutantmagnet
United States3789 Posts
Tester on the other hand I still think doesn't belong. He doesn't have the halo factor of being a legend like Boxer and he squandered the popularity he had in beta with mediocre results. While he has to play in a tougher scene than Naniwa,his career results are vastly inferior to Hungon who has been top 4 more times than he has been top 8; or Puzzle who has a winrate more than 60% in all matchups in his recorded career, compared to Tester who can't crack 50% vs Terran and is exactly 50% vs Protoss. | ||
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ragnorr
Denmark6097 Posts
On September 12 2011 13:42 Moralez wrote: 10 days without gsl? edit: seems not | ||
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mutantmagnet
United States3789 Posts
On September 09 2011 23:48 Jakkerr wrote: And what u just said is exactly what they shouldn't do. They would make themselves effectively reliable of the fans, a business would ONLY try this as an effort to gain more money because there aren't enough companies that are willing to invest in korean SC2. Money from the public is never a reliable and steady source of income, which any company needs. Maybe I'm exaggerating and there aren't any problems, but I know what I'm talking about and this way of 'doing business' sounds very strange to me. I generally agree with the idea that charging advertisers is more economically viable than charging viewers but it is not always going to be the most sensible. HBO avoided advertisers simply because advertisers are more organized as a group to stop a tv production team from producing content that they view as offensive. The only power viewers have is to change the channel. We've already discussed or read about in the past how advertising systems can be detrimental to esports if you have too many of them wanting to be represented and thus forcing commercial breaks between casts. Only soccer has avoided this type of gameflow butchering. It provides hope that if any esport blows up and tries to go for the advertisement route they could be handled like soccor but that is something we as fans have to push for when the opportunity presents itself again. For the time being what Gom is doing is fine. | ||
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darcevader88
Canada648 Posts
Seriously Huk, Nani, MVP, Nestea, DRG OMFFGGGG yes. | ||
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SagaSan
France64 Posts
On September 12 2011 13:38 mprs wrote: You mean the three Code A players and one Code B player? But you are right. Out of all the players that reach top 8 every season, trickster is the worst of them. GSL 1: Top 8 GSL 2: DNQ GSL 3: DNQ Code S 1 (JAN): Top 8 (lost to Rainbow 2-0) Code S 2 (MAR): Top 16 (lost to sC 2-1) Code S 3 (MAY): Up and Down (3rd seed), made it back to Code S Super Tournament: Top 32 (lost to TheBest 2-1) Code S 4 (JUL): Top 8 (lost 3-2 to Losira) Code S 5 (AUG): Up and Down (4th seed), 2-4, and Code A Yes, he did fall to Code A. But so did MVP, MC, and MKP. And he is Protoss! | ||
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Belha
Italy2850 Posts
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
On September 10 2011 02:31 Pretzelz wrote: In my opinion someone like Puzzle deserves it more than Trickster. And Trickster is more deserving than Naniwa. So if you want puzzle in then kick naniwa out. | ||
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Giriath
Sweden2412 Posts
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AnodyneSea
Jamaica757 Posts
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Technique
Netherlands1542 Posts
Gom has shown they are not capable of keeping your info safe... must be pretty stupid to buy anything from them at this point. | ||
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OrchidThief
Denmark2298 Posts
Losira, Mma/Nestea, July and MVP in Ro4. Probably an Mma/Nestea vs MVP final. I don't understand what Naniwa is doing in one of those groups. He hasn't performed well in GSL this far, he didn't make it past ro32 in code A, he seems like he's there just to please the foreign community. (Unlike Huk, who's actually "earned" his spot so to speak). | ||
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hai2u
688 Posts
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SaikOuLighT
Canada742 Posts
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wklbishop
United States1286 Posts
On September 12 2011 16:42 jmbthirteen wrote: Gom was around before sc2. It does suck that they aren't having a free stream when every tournament out there has a free stream. Seems like an odd choice to me honestly. What do you mean? There's a free low quality stream and a paid subscription for the VODs and HQ stream, just like every other tournament out there (except for TL-related tournaments really). | ||
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ContactKilla
United States194 Posts
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Quotidian
Norway1937 Posts
On September 13 2011 01:36 wklbishop wrote: What do you mean? There's a free low quality stream and a paid subscription for the VODs and HQ stream, just like every other tournament out there (except for TL-related tournaments really). not sure if you missed it, but Arena of Legends has no free stream (which is a horrible idea imo) | ||
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Davion
United States26 Posts
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JesusOurSaviour
United Arab Emirates1141 Posts
I myself have not bought one ticket, just living off the free stream / 1st game vod / youku.com -->neotv. I understand mandarin, so neotv is baller | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
It was a fun summer. No free stream is kind of a bummer, but hopefully someone will LR the games that has a ticket. | ||
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zaMNal
Mongolia385 Posts
about TricksteR: TricksteR is a well estabilished, experienced, very manner and professional gamer. Definitely one of top 5 protosses in the world by status and accomplishements right now, at least. He is a 3-time RO8 finisher in GSL (code s) ffs! Now think about it, how many PROTOSSES have accomplished such a feat?? Even MC is in code A now, btw. So please... don't question his spot and compare him to such players as Naniwa or HerO who have yet to prove themselves in Code A/S. | ||
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mutantmagnet
United States3789 Posts
On September 13 2011 17:09 zaMNal wrote: Only one players is going to get the 2nd place. And we all know who's that gonna be. lol. about TricksteR: TricksteR is a well estabilished, experienced, very manner and professional gamer. Definitely one of top 5 protosses in the world by status and accomplishements right now, at least. He is a 3-time RO8 finisher in GSL (code s) ffs! Now think about it, how many PROTOSSES have accomplished such a feat?? Even MC is in code A now, btw. So please... don't question his spot and compare him to such players as Naniwa or HerO who have yet to prove themselves in Code A/S. Anyone who made a comparison to Naniwa was to state they both don't belong or Naniwa atleast has popularity going for him. Trickster neither has better popularity, better rankings or career performances to the Protoss he was being compared to like Alicia, Puzzle or Hongun respectively. | ||
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KoBlades
Austria248 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:22 anonymitylol wrote: IMNesTea SlayerS_BoxeR oGsMC IMLosirA IMMvp EGHuK MVPDongRaeGu SlayerS_MMA Dignitas.NaNiwa StarTaleJuly MarineKingPrime.WE StarTale_TricKsteR One of these does not belong... yea, naniwa^^ | ||
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Tofugrinder
Austria899 Posts
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Mithriel
Netherlands2969 Posts
Hopefully Boxer will shine and take it home!! MKP for second place! | ||
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Porcelina
United Kingdom3249 Posts
I will never understand. It does not matter to me that they did not pick all the players I would have picked, or used to exact criteria I would have used. This will probably be the best online tournament I have ever seen. And will probably end up being more exciting than most LANs as well. So yeah, five dollars for that feels like GOMtv is treating me to a Michelin star restaurant meal while I still pay McDonald's type prices. Very excited. | ||
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shrinkmaster
Germany947 Posts
Dear user, The casters for Arena of Legends are not confirmed yet, but it will most likely be not Tasteless and Artosis. | ||
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stokes17
United States1411 Posts
On September 13 2011 18:54 Mithriel wrote: Ill buy this, its only 5bucks. Thats 1beer and keeps me entertained much longer!! Hopefully Boxer will shine and take it home!! MKP for second place! damn dood where do you drink? Nestea going for championship number 4? I think yes | ||
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dudecrush
Canada418 Posts
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BarbieHsu
574 Posts
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EzPz
Scotland64 Posts
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two.watup
United States371 Posts
On September 15 2011 01:35 BarbieHsu wrote: How did they pick players? They chose who they wanted to. It's an invitational. | ||
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Choboo
Sweden2088 Posts
Naniwa at last MLG: 12th Trickster at last MLG: 17th ^^. | ||
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sitromit
7051 Posts
On September 15 2011 04:31 Choboo wrote: Naniwa at last MLG: 12th Trickster at last MLG: 17th ^^. Naniwa's overall record against Korean players: 7-21, 25% win rate Trickster's overall record against Korean players: 36-37, 49% win rate | ||
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Alpino
Brazil4390 Posts
On September 15 2011 05:26 sitromit wrote: Naniwa's overall record against Korean players: 7-21, 25% win rate Trickster's overall record against Korean players: 36-37, 49% win rate Naniwa's hot, Trickster's not. | ||
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Thallis
United States314 Posts
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GtBranflakes
United States2 Posts
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Ormolu
Australia35 Posts
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Parapa
Korea (South)33 Posts
Group A Nestea vs MMA vs MC!!! | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15689 Posts
On September 17 2011 01:28 Parapa wrote: Just 15 hours left for starting! Group A Nestea vs MMA vs MC!!! 15 hours? The TL calender says it is 13 hours and 25 minutes from now. Which is it? :o | ||
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Parapa
Korea (South)33 Posts
On September 17 2011 01:36 Mohdoo wrote: 15 hours? The TL calender says it is 13 hours and 25 minutes from now. Which is it? :o It will start on 17:00 KST | ||
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Cartel
Canada255 Posts
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vertical101
Hong Kong311 Posts
Nestea < MMA - MMA is very good at TvZ, nestea not so good MC > MMA - MMA is weak in TvP Nestea>MC -Nestea ZvP his strongest match-up what happen if they all 1-1? re-game? | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15689 Posts
Ok. According to the TL calender, it starts at 15:00 KST. Are you able to change the TL calender date, or is that something TL staff need to do? This is a pretty huge match, so a lot of people would be pretty sad if they missed it I'm glad I verified :O | ||
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woobsauce
United States491 Posts
Also, very excited for this tournament, MMA fighting! :D | ||
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Carny
Croatia284 Posts
On September 17 2011 02:38 woobsauce wrote: I haven't finished reading the entire thread yet, but was there a posted reason as to why people like ST_Trickster and Naniwa were put into this tournament above people like JYP and SlayerS_Puzzle? :0 Also, very excited for this tournament, MMA fighting! :D Well this tournament is called Arena of Legends, and JYP and Puzzle are just some newcomers who haven't shown they're true potential yet. Trickster was one of the best players during the Beta and first months after SCII came out and Naniwa is one of the best foreign protosses who just happens to be in korea. The picked players are pretty fine imo. | ||
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woobsauce
United States491 Posts
On September 17 2011 02:50 Carny wrote: Well this tournament is called Arena of Legends, and JYP and Puzzle are just some newcomers who haven't shown they're true potential yet. Trickster was one of the best players during the Beta and first months after SCII came out and Naniwa is one of the best foreign protosses who just happens to be in korea. The picked players are pretty fine imo. I'm not saying they're bad or somehow unqualified, but the groups appear to have a slight success/skill imbalance. I would say that players like Puzzle would have an "easier" time competing at a level required to play vs the winner of say..group A | ||
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Kazeyonoma
United States2912 Posts
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Cartel
Canada255 Posts
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Dissonance23
United States259 Posts
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ShootingStars
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Bunker
Sweden49 Posts
They should add a option, 1 fee for everything. Just my humble suggestion. And maybe give a special price for that ;D | ||
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Adventurekid
Sweden505 Posts
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
 Trickster into the tournament? | ||
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TokO
Norway577 Posts
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groms
Canada1017 Posts
Trying to decide whether to purchase a ticket. Sucks I didn't get a free one. Only seasons I haven't bought are Open season 1 and 2 b/c things were a mess back then. Edit: Apparently its casted by the code A casters. Doubt I will bother buying it at this point. Lately GSL has been a huge disappointment to me. First problem is so few tastosis casts. They used to cast up and down matches as well, now they don't cast anything except one gstl match a week and the code S matches. Code S is also getting boring b/c it lacks racial diversity(not 100% their fault). And the fucking finals SUCK. eVERY GODDAMN ONE. /rant | ||
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SenorChang
Australia4730 Posts
On September 19 2011 00:03 Bunker wrote: I dunno, too many fees for different stuff. They should add a option, 1 fee for everything. Just my humble suggestion. And maybe give a special price for that ;D I've tweeted mr chae about doing a subscription type thing and he said he is working on it for 2012, hopefully it will be discounted! | ||
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Ghosthawk
Mexico42 Posts
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