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Perhaps its Boxer's fault that Idra did not GG. He did not kill a single one of his own command centers...
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On June 13 2011 13:50 Mycl wrote:
You wouldn't notice Idra fans.....
I'm not sure what else to say to this post other than "lol ok". That's how wrong it is.
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On June 13 2011 13:52 Defacer wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 13:50 Sc1pio wrote:On June 13 2011 13:49 Defacer wrote:On June 13 2011 13:46 KiWiKaKi wrote:
wow idra no gg the emperor . what a douche Really, you too Kiwi? I thought IdrA not gg'ing was pretty standard. I'm not sure what is more annoying, IdrA not gg'ing or his competitors/frienemies pretending to be surprised. It's not "IdrA not gging" people are mad about, it's "IdrA not gging the man who built StarCraft as an eSport". Actually it's neither. Kiwikaki and TT1 are just looking for a cheap excuse to kick a guy when he's down. I guess Kiwi is still smarting from having his ass handed to him at the IPL finals. Oh, SNAP!
Actually, you're wrong.
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Man makes me wonder how badly Korean netizens reacted when Yellow go the bunker treatment 3x
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I'm no longer even sure how one becomes a fanboy of a guy like IdrA. Are these the kind of people who watch day time soap opera and are totally gripped by its compelling drama?
It's fine to defend his play-style and skills as he is obviously a skilled player, but what justifies defending his bad manner, claiming manner is not compulsary? Is it not the proper behaviour for sportsmen to shake the hands of their competitor after the match, regardless of the results?
The "gg" is the equivalent of the handshake, and while it may not be compulsary, it's understandable that it becomes the point of discussion if a player - losing or otherwise - refuses it. Making patronising comments about other people making a big deal about this only serves to show your true colour as a rabid Idra fanboy.
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On June 13 2011 13:51 IzieBoy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 13:47 cheesemaster wrote:On June 13 2011 13:42 Traven wrote:On June 13 2011 13:38 cheesemaster wrote:On June 13 2011 13:35 DivinO wrote:On June 13 2011 13:34 Traven wrote:
This thread has taken a turn for the worse. Idra doesn't gg unless it is in fact a good game to play. It is his own right to do and say what he does in a game and he should not be bashed for his decision on a live report thread. I must politely disagree with you on that. Traditionally the "gg" (I speak for BW as well as SC2) is a pillar of StarCraft manner, and if he deviates from it the community should have a right to say something about it. Maybe not do anything about it, but say something. Agreed, its not like anyone thinks that a game they lost is a good game to play for the most part (at least someone like idra who is usually quite bitter about losing) Also the fact that he GG'd everyone else in the NASL (except maybe zenio didnt see those) and then doesnt GG boxer is pretty disrespectful, why is he singling out boxer to be bad mannered too. Maybe he isn't trying to BM Boxer. Boxer did a double proxy barracks in both games. Anyone would have a bad taste in their mouths after that. There are games that you simply just don't say GG to after you lose. I believe everyone has left a game once without saying GG because of the play of the other player. I dont see why idra should have a bad taste in his mouth about the 2 rax proxy, thats just how boxer does his 2 rax, hes shown us that in many gaames, its still a safe play on his part it isnt even cheese its meant to be transitioned out of. Like when idra lost game 1 boxer had stopped the aggression he wasnt sending anymore reinforcements he had lifted off his barracks and he didnt expect to win right there, this is just boxers way of putting on pressure. yea i'm honestly surprised he looked as if he didn't expect 2 rax from boxer... it's a fairly standard build...also it's so important to hit the watch towers... remember the marineking game versus mc.
He did expect it. Did you not see the two drone scouts?
Did you listen to what Sen said in his interview? "It's so hard to stop korean terrans doing early marine scv attack".
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On June 13 2011 13:44 Nakas wrote:
Both of those Boxer vs Idra games were pretty piss poor, neither I would consider even close to a "good game".
Game 1 was just a silly 2-rax that anyone at diamond level or above can easily do, and will take games off even grandmaster players.
Game 2 was over the moment they spawned in vertical positions. A terran 2-base push through that short and narrow path is pretty much unbeatable. It's just like those pathways on the top and bottom of the old Shakuras map (the ones that were removed because they were imbalanced), but even shorter and quicker to push though. If NASL uses this map again next season, they really should to remove vertical spawns from it, or remove the passage like they did with Shakuras.
Finally, someone who knows what they are talking about.
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On June 13 2011 13:46 KiWiKaKi wrote:
wow idra no gg the emperor . what a douche
kiwi which team?
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On June 13 2011 13:51 Karthane wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 13:49 Two_DoWn wrote:On June 13 2011 13:46 motbob wrote:
TT1 says Idra doesn't deserve anything he has, but of course he doesn't know what he's talking about. Idra practiced 12 hours a day for two years to get to the level of top foreigner in BW, and that effort also paid off by making him the top foreigner in SC2 when it came out. He still hasn't relinquished that title. Ok, thats a bit of a stretch. Jinro has been more successful in Korea, and I can think of several players I would take over Idra in a BoX, Naniwa/Thorzain/ect. Idra is top tier. But he is by no means the dominant foreigner or even the undisputed best foreigner. He said "top foreigner in sc2 when it came out"
He said "still hasn't relinquished that title"
Hate to break it to you, but he has relinquished that title.
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On June 13 2011 13:51 IzieBoy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 13:47 cheesemaster wrote:On June 13 2011 13:42 Traven wrote:On June 13 2011 13:38 cheesemaster wrote:On June 13 2011 13:35 DivinO wrote:On June 13 2011 13:34 Traven wrote:
This thread has taken a turn for the worse. Idra doesn't gg unless it is in fact a good game to play. It is his own right to do and say what he does in a game and he should not be bashed for his decision on a live report thread. I must politely disagree with you on that. Traditionally the "gg" (I speak for BW as well as SC2) is a pillar of StarCraft manner, and if he deviates from it the community should have a right to say something about it. Maybe not do anything about it, but say something. Agreed, its not like anyone thinks that a game they lost is a good game to play for the most part (at least someone like idra who is usually quite bitter about losing) Also the fact that he GG'd everyone else in the NASL (except maybe zenio didnt see those) and then doesnt GG boxer is pretty disrespectful, why is he singling out boxer to be bad mannered too. Maybe he isn't trying to BM Boxer. Boxer did a double proxy barracks in both games. Anyone would have a bad taste in their mouths after that. There are games that you simply just don't say GG to after you lose. I believe everyone has left a game once without saying GG because of the play of the other player. I dont see why idra should have a bad taste in his mouth about the 2 rax proxy, thats just how boxer does his 2 rax, hes shown us that in many gaames, its still a safe play on his part it isnt even cheese its meant to be transitioned out of. i Like when idra lost game 1 boxer had stopped the aggression he wasnt sending anymore reinforcements he had lifted off his barracks and he didnt expect to win right there, this is just boxers way of putting on pressure. yea i'm honestly surprised he looked as if he didn't expect 2 rax from boxer... it's a fairly standard build...also it's so important to hit the watch towers... remember the marineking game versus mc.
I agree he should have expected but in Idra's mind, the only way to truly prove skill is through a long macro game with no type of cheesy opening.
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On June 13 2011 13:44 Whole wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 13:44 rdj107 wrote:On June 13 2011 13:41 Mycl wrote:On June 13 2011 13:39 TT1 wrote:On June 13 2011 13:37 NinMarth wrote:i don't really know why everyone is so upset about no gg from idra. i don't think boxer cares if idra ggs or not... On June 13 2011 13:31 TT1 wrote:On June 13 2011 13:29 motbob wrote:
2-day bans are about to be handed out like candy. Get ready. ill be the 1st to go then, fuck u idra fanboys LOL bande de sale morveux denculer de merde everytime i see a post from you, i wonder how you are not perma banned -.- sorry dude someone needs to shit in that kids mouth, i will happily fufill that role and tarnish my already shit filled image even more You were both at MLG, why not then? You've thrown the gauntlet lets see it done TT1. You crazy? TT1 getting in a physical confrontation? Nahhhhh, online is safer. ya idra has been working out. no wonder he is scared.
He has been? Still looks like a twig to me.
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On June 13 2011 13:50 sc14s wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 13:46 Itsmedudeman wrote:On June 13 2011 13:43 sc14s wrote:On June 13 2011 13:40 Zanno wrote:On June 13 2011 13:35 Whole wrote:On June 13 2011 13:35 jyLee wrote:
So while others are busy trying to build up the esports scene, Idra is doing his best to tear it down with his shitty attitude and lack of sportsmanship. Its really sad because I was always one of the people who would defend the gracken when he started his zerg imba whining or when he would bm on ladder. Its one thing to bm and troll on the internet for fun. You dont comport yourself like that in a tournament and disrespect the sponsors of the tournament and the other competitors. You especially DO NOT FUCK WITH BOXER. Greg I hope you enjoy continuing to lose games and the rest of that quickly receding hairline. you might want to read this thread. this is a different issue than the stuff that thread is trolling on if you read milkis' blog on working for MLG as a translator a lot of the korean players have the perspective that the entire NA scene acts like idra the NA scene will never take off until the Korean scene takes us seriously for various reasons which is why you see gratuitous amounts of manner from players like incontrol i'm fairly certain it matters not one whit what the korean netizens think of us, and wont affect e-sports in any way in the foreign side. The scene will do well or fail for other more important and less obvious reasons you ever stop to think about more than just "the esports scene" and about the reputation of the country a player represents? uhm, idra isnt our representative for other countries, hes not in the olympics, he plays a video game for a living that doesn't get respect from 99% of the population anywhere. I would say there are many much more widespread and known people than idra that could fill that roll.. idk say perhaps Obama, or any one of our ambassadors? or people in sports with a fanbase of many millions? or our troops when not in the states?
lol what? so if a person from another country comes to live and compete in yours they aren't a representative? jesus christ what are you thinking here... the koreans came to mlg, thought that a lot of americans would be bm, and then milkis corrected them saying it was only idra
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On June 13 2011 13:49 cheesemaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 13:46 motbob wrote:
TT1 says Idra doesn't deserve anything he has, but of course he doesn't know what he's talking about. Idra practiced 12 hours a day for two years to get to the level of top foreigner in BW, and that effort also paid off by making him the top foreigner in SC2 when it came out. He still hasn't relinquished that title. Hmm you still think hes top foreigner? id say hes up there... but i would have him at least tied with some people if not down the list a few spots personally.
I don't think theres any doubt, especially after the last mlg about him being tied for, if not the, top foreigner. Not to mention he didn't even play at his peak that mlg (not on day 2 or 3)
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On June 13 2011 13:52 Defacer wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 13:50 Sc1pio wrote:On June 13 2011 13:49 Defacer wrote:On June 13 2011 13:46 KiWiKaKi wrote:
wow idra no gg the emperor . what a douche Really, you too Kiwi? I thought IdrA not gg'ing was pretty standard. I'm not sure what is more annoying, IdrA not gg'ing or his competitors/frienemies pretending to be surprised. It's not "IdrA not gging" people are mad about, it's "IdrA not gging the man who built StarCraft as an eSport". Actually it's neither. Kiwikaki and TT1 are just looking for a cheap excuse to kick a guy when he's down. I guess Kiwi is still smarting from having his ass handed to him at the IPL finals. Oh, SNAP!
Actually, its Idra not gging the emperor. Oh, SNAP!
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Boxer is the most awesome progamer living on the planet and I don't expect Idra fans to understand that.
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On June 13 2011 13:52 Defacer wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 13:50 Sc1pio wrote:On June 13 2011 13:49 Defacer wrote:On June 13 2011 13:46 KiWiKaKi wrote:
wow idra no gg the emperor . what a douche Really, you too Kiwi? I thought IdrA not gg'ing was pretty standard. I'm not sure what is more annoying, IdrA not gg'ing or his competitors/frienemies pretending to be surprised. It's not "IdrA not gging" people are mad about, it's "IdrA not gging the man who built StarCraft as an eSport". Actually it's neither. Kiwikaki and TT1 are just looking for a cheap excuse to kick a guy when he's down. I guess Kiwi is still smarting from having his ass handed to him at the IPL finals. Oh, SNAP!
You're right dude, everybody mad about the lack of gging is trying to kick idra when he is down and is a complete idra hater who will celebrate the day he quits esports.
Get a clue.
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On June 13 2011 13:52 MorningMusume11 wrote:
Man makes me wonder how badly Korean netizens reacted when Yellow go the bunker treatment 3x
Good question. No idea. Was BoxeR as revered then as he is now? Was he a legend or just a great player?
These are the things I wonder about when I read your post. 
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My chemoreceptors are clogged with all the estrogen in the air.
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On June 13 2011 13:49 Defacer wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 13:46 KiWiKaKi wrote:
wow idra no gg the emperor . what a douche Really, you too Kiwi? I thought IdrA not gg'ing was pretty standard. I'm not sure what is more annoying, IdrA not gg'ing or his competitors/frienemies pretending to be surprised.
you know what's really fucking annoying? is when people ask that question.
is it more annoying to X or is it more annoying to do Y because of X? stop asking it, for fuck's sakes. it's not always an intelligent point of view, no matter how many times westerners take it.
and the TL mod fueling an off topic discussion in an LR thread is pretty funny i guess.
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On June 13 2011 13:52 RPR_Tempest wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 13:52 Defacer wrote:On June 13 2011 13:50 Sc1pio wrote:On June 13 2011 13:49 Defacer wrote:On June 13 2011 13:46 KiWiKaKi wrote:
wow idra no gg the emperor . what a douche Really, you too Kiwi? I thought IdrA not gg'ing was pretty standard. I'm not sure what is more annoying, IdrA not gg'ing or his competitors/frienemies pretending to be surprised. It's not "IdrA not gging" people are mad about, it's "IdrA not gging the man who built StarCraft as an eSport". Actually it's neither. Kiwikaki and TT1 are just looking for a cheap excuse to kick a guy when he's down. I guess Kiwi is still smarting from having his ass handed to him at the IPL finals. Oh, SNAP! Actually, you're wrong.
actually you are wrong, kiwi lost, it doesnt matter if kiwi won what? 2 of the games total? in that tourney im pretty sure it was soemthing like 6-2 idra over kiwi
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