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On June 13 2011 13:43 sc14s wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 13:40 Zanno wrote:On June 13 2011 13:35 Whole wrote:On June 13 2011 13:35 jyLee wrote:
So while others are busy trying to build up the esports scene, Idra is doing his best to tear it down with his shitty attitude and lack of sportsmanship. Its really sad because I was always one of the people who would defend the gracken when he started his zerg imba whining or when he would bm on ladder. Its one thing to bm and troll on the internet for fun. You dont comport yourself like that in a tournament and disrespect the sponsors of the tournament and the other competitors. You especially DO NOT FUCK WITH BOXER. Greg I hope you enjoy continuing to lose games and the rest of that quickly receding hairline. you might want to read this thread. this is a different issue than the stuff that thread is trolling on if you read milkis' blog on working for MLG as a translator a lot of the korean players have the perspective that the entire NA scene acts like idra the NA scene will never take off until the Korean scene takes us seriously for various reasons which is why you see gratuitous amounts of manner from players like incontrol i'm fairly certain it matters not one whit what the korean netizens think of us, and wont affect e-sports in any way in the foreign side. The scene will do well or fail for other more important and less obvious reasons
Anyway the foreigner scene is going to be pretty crap to the Korean one if things continue like that. A lot of pros simply don't want to train hard, and etiquette and respect is something that have vanished in western countries.
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On June 13 2011 13:44 Gretorp wrote:
I smile all the time because trolling tools find silly things to QQ over. How can you say I smile in weird situations when you watch on mute. It's just blind hate, and people like him always remind me to take criticism lightly. Hopefully StyleD can help the eSports community or in any community with his psych undergrad to be degree.
Thanks all for a great season. There's more to come and it's been a great journey so far!! :-)
You are a hero, sir. I look forward to more.
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On June 13 2011 13:44 Whole wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 13:42 Defacer wrote:On June 13 2011 13:41 hopoo wrote:Poll: Which is more annoying?Idra fanboys (119) 72% People who harass idra fanboys (47) 28% 166 total votes Your vote: Which is more annoying? (Vote): Idra fanboys
(Vote): People who harass idra fanboys
You forgot to add Option 3: TT1 wanting to shit in IdrA's mouth. leave his fetish alone
lol. yes. you're 100% right.
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On June 13 2011 13:44 Nakas wrote:
Both of those Boxer vs Idra games were pretty piss poor, neither I would consider even close to a "good game".
Game 1 was just a silly 2-rax that anyone at diamond level or above can easily do, and will take games off even grandmaster players.
Game 2 was over the moment they spawned in vertical positions. A terran 2-base push through that short and narrow path is pretty much unbeatable. It's just like those pathways on the top and bottom of the old Shakuras map (the ones that were removed because they were imbalanced), but even shorter and quicker to push though. If NASL uses this map again next season, they really should to remove vertical spawns from it, or remove the passage like they did with Shakuras.
If you want to say that terran is imba, just go ahead and say it, you wouldn't be the first one in this thread.
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On June 13 2011 13:44 Gretorp wrote:
I smile all the time because trolling tools find silly things to QQ over. How can you say I smile in weird situations when you watch on mute. It's just blind hate, and people like him always remind me to take criticism lightly. Hopefully StyleD can help the eSports community or in any community with his psych undergrad to be degree.
Thanks all for a great season. There's more to come and it's been a great journey so far!! :-)
great job this season gretorp! 
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On June 13 2011 13:43 sc14s wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 13:40 Zanno wrote:On June 13 2011 13:35 Whole wrote:On June 13 2011 13:35 jyLee wrote:
So while others are busy trying to build up the esports scene, Idra is doing his best to tear it down with his shitty attitude and lack of sportsmanship. Its really sad because I was always one of the people who would defend the gracken when he started his zerg imba whining or when he would bm on ladder. Its one thing to bm and troll on the internet for fun. You dont comport yourself like that in a tournament and disrespect the sponsors of the tournament and the other competitors. You especially DO NOT FUCK WITH BOXER. Greg I hope you enjoy continuing to lose games and the rest of that quickly receding hairline. you might want to read this thread. this is a different issue than the stuff that thread is trolling on if you read milkis' blog on working for MLG as a translator a lot of the korean players have the perspective that the entire NA scene acts like idra the NA scene will never take off until the Korean scene takes us seriously for various reasons which is why you see gratuitous amounts of manner from players like incontrol i'm fairly certain it matters not one whit what the korean netizens think of us, and wont affect e-sports in any way in the foreign side. The scene will do well or fail for other more important and less obvious reasons
you ever stop to think about more than just "the esports scene" and about the reputation of the country a player represents?
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On June 13 2011 13:44 DivinO wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 13:42 Traven wrote:On June 13 2011 13:38 cheesemaster wrote:On June 13 2011 13:35 DivinO wrote:On June 13 2011 13:34 Traven wrote:
This thread has taken a turn for the worse. Idra doesn't gg unless it is in fact a good game to play. It is his own right to do and say what he does in a game and he should not be bashed for his decision on a live report thread. I must politely disagree with you on that. Traditionally the "gg" (I speak for BW as well as SC2) is a pillar of StarCraft manner, and if he deviates from it the community should have a right to say something about it. Maybe not do anything about it, but say something. Agreed, its not like anyone thinks that a game they lost is a good game to play for the most part (at least someone like idra who is usually quite bitter about losing) Also the fact that he GG'd everyone else in the NASL (except maybe zenio didnt see those) and then doesnt GG boxer is pretty disrespectful, why is he singling out boxer to be bad mannered too. Maybe he isn't trying to BM Boxer. Boxer did a double proxy barracks in both games. Anyone would have a bad taste in their mouths after that. There are games that you simply just don't say GG to after you lose. I believe everyone has left a game once without saying GG because of the play of the other player. Thanks for the comment and thanks for being reasonable. I agree with you there, of course he wasn't trying to BM BoxeR. I don't think IdrA is innately malicious toward anyone he BM's. But not GGing toward someone who deserves a great deal of respect is a bit off-putting.
so is unsolicited pandering...
if it's not a good game, why should he say it is.
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wow idra no gg the emperor . what a douche
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On June 13 2011 13:43 Zanno wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 13:41 DivinO wrote:On June 13 2011 13:39 adeezy wrote:
How did idra lose to boxer? It was a pleasant surprise but I wanna know how. Spoilers ahead! + Show Spoiler [G1] +BoxeR proxies 2 rax and builds bunkers at IdrA's nat and IdrA ragequits. BoxeR attempts the same thing but it is scouted and he pulls back. Macro game ensues. BoxeR breaks down IdrA's rocks to his (nat? third?) and IdrA attacks into manny sieged tanks. Although he neurals the tanks and the thor, after a while his lack of an army breaks down and IdrA taps out. you forgot to mention in g2 that idra had 3k banked and was still up 2 bases at the end of the attack while boxer had no money and no reinforcements
3k could only be put into zerglings...and he probably didn't have much larva either. also zerglings don't do very well vs. tanks
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TT1 says Idra doesn't deserve anything he has, but of course he doesn't know what he's talking about. Idra practiced 12 hours a day for two years to get to the level of top foreigner in BW, and that effort also paid off by making him the top foreigner in SC2 when it came out. He still hasn't relinquished that title.
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On June 13 2011 13:46 IzieBoy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 13:44 DivinO wrote:On June 13 2011 13:42 Traven wrote:On June 13 2011 13:38 cheesemaster wrote:On June 13 2011 13:35 DivinO wrote:On June 13 2011 13:34 Traven wrote:
This thread has taken a turn for the worse. Idra doesn't gg unless it is in fact a good game to play. It is his own right to do and say what he does in a game and he should not be bashed for his decision on a live report thread. I must politely disagree with you on that. Traditionally the "gg" (I speak for BW as well as SC2) is a pillar of StarCraft manner, and if he deviates from it the community should have a right to say something about it. Maybe not do anything about it, but say something. Agreed, its not like anyone thinks that a game they lost is a good game to play for the most part (at least someone like idra who is usually quite bitter about losing) Also the fact that he GG'd everyone else in the NASL (except maybe zenio didnt see those) and then doesnt GG boxer is pretty disrespectful, why is he singling out boxer to be bad mannered too. Maybe he isn't trying to BM Boxer. Boxer did a double proxy barracks in both games. Anyone would have a bad taste in their mouths after that. There are games that you simply just don't say GG to after you lose. I believe everyone has left a game once without saying GG because of the play of the other player. Thanks for the comment and thanks for being reasonable. I agree with you there, of course he wasn't trying to BM BoxeR. I don't think IdrA is innately malicious toward anyone he BM's. But not GGing toward someone who deserves a great deal of respect is a bit off-putting. so is unsolicited pandering... if it's not a good game, why should he say it is.
I think that stems from our disagreement of the definition of the GG. In my opinion the GG is something you should do. For manner and sportsmanship. I guess you feel that a GG only is reserved for good games?
I guess we can agree to disagree. I wouldn't call what I do "pandering".
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On June 13 2011 13:46 KiWiKaKi wrote:
wow idra no gg the emperor . what a douche
Hi KiWi! <3
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On June 13 2011 13:46 motbob wrote:
TT1 says Idra doesn't deserve anything he has, but of course he doesn't know what he's talking about. Idra practiced 12 hours a day for two years to get to the level of top foreigner in BW, and that effort also paid off by making him the top foreigner in SC2 when it came out. He still hasn't relinquished that title.
well said.
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On June 13 2011 13:42 Traven wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 13:38 cheesemaster wrote:On June 13 2011 13:35 DivinO wrote:On June 13 2011 13:34 Traven wrote:
This thread has taken a turn for the worse. Idra doesn't gg unless it is in fact a good game to play. It is his own right to do and say what he does in a game and he should not be bashed for his decision on a live report thread. I must politely disagree with you on that. Traditionally the "gg" (I speak for BW as well as SC2) is a pillar of StarCraft manner, and if he deviates from it the community should have a right to say something about it. Maybe not do anything about it, but say something. Agreed, its not like anyone thinks that a game they lost is a good game to play for the most part (at least someone like idra who is usually quite bitter about losing) Also the fact that he GG'd everyone else in the NASL (except maybe zenio didnt see those) and then doesnt GG boxer is pretty disrespectful, why is he singling out boxer to be bad mannered too. Maybe he isn't trying to BM Boxer. Boxer did a double proxy barracks in both games. Anyone would have a bad taste in their mouths after that. There are games that you simply just don't say GG to after you lose. I believe everyone has left a game once without saying GG because of the play of the other player.
I dont see why idra should have a bad taste in his mouth about the 2 rax proxy, thats just how boxer does his 2 rax, hes shown us that in many gaames, its still a safe play on his part it isnt even cheese its meant to be transitioned out of.
Like when idra lost game 1 boxer had stopped the aggression he wasnt sending anymore reinforcements he had lifted off his barracks and he didnt expect to win right there, this is just boxers way of putting on pressure.
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On June 13 2011 13:46 motbob wrote:
TT1 says Idra doesn't deserve anything he has, but of course he doesn't know what he's talking about. Idra practiced 12 hours a day for two years to get to the level of top foreigner in BW, and that effort also paid off by making him the top foreigner in SC2 when it came out. He still hasn't relinquished that title.
A guy who smashes his headset and storms out at a live event also doesn't deserve anything he has, if you know what I'm saying 
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On June 13 2011 13:46 motbob wrote:
TT1 says Idra doesn't deserve anything he has, but of course he doesn't know what he's talking about. Idra practiced 12 hours a day for two years to get to the level of top foreigner in BW, and that effort also paid off by making him the top foreigner in SC2 when it came out. He still hasn't relinquished that title.
Damnnn. Motbob speaks the truth. Good for you man
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On June 13 2011 13:44 Gretorp wrote:
I smile all the time because trolling tools find silly things to QQ over. How can you say I smile in weird situations when you watch on mute. It's just blind hate, and people like him always remind me to take criticism lightly. Hopefully StyleD can help the eSports community or in any community with his psych undergrad to be degree.
Thanks all for a great season. There's more to come and it's been a great journey so far!! :-)
<3
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On June 13 2011 13:46 KiWiKaKi wrote:
wow idra no gg the emperor . what a douche
And calling someone a douche doesn't make you a douche? Honestly, wtf.
If Idra insults someone he's an ass but if I insult Idra it's whatever. Yeah...
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On June 13 2011 13:46 KiWiKaKi wrote:
wow idra no gg the emperor . what a douche
LOL. Absolute Truth.
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