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DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-13 04:42:43
June 13 2011 04:42 GMT
#1621
On June 13 2011 13:40 Karthane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 13:38 DivinO wrote:
On June 13 2011 13:37 NinMarth wrote:
i don't really know why everyone is so upset about no gg from idra. i don't think boxer cares if idra ggs or not...

On June 13 2011 13:31 TT1 wrote:
On June 13 2011 13:29 motbob wrote:
2-day bans are about to be handed out like candy. Get ready.


ill be the 1st to go then, fuck u idra fanboys LOL
bande de sale morveux denculer de merde


everytime i see a post from you, i wonder how you are not perma banned -.-


BoxeR doesn't care, but we (and I'll bet my money on Korean netizens) do. IdrA's breaking of tradition, especially toward a revered figure is reasonable rage fodder, I think.


There is a difference between TT1 defending Boxer and the way hes acting right now.


On June 13 2011 13:41 tomatriedes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 13:40 Karthane wrote:
On June 13 2011 13:38 DivinO wrote:
On June 13 2011 13:37 NinMarth wrote:
i don't really know why everyone is so upset about no gg from idra. i don't think boxer cares if idra ggs or not...

On June 13 2011 13:31 TT1 wrote:
On June 13 2011 13:29 motbob wrote:
2-day bans are about to be handed out like candy. Get ready.


ill be the 1st to go then, fuck u idra fanboys LOL
bande de sale morveux denculer de merde


everytime i see a post from you, i wonder how you are not perma banned -.-


BoxeR doesn't care, but we (and I'll bet my money on Korean netizens) do. IdrA's breaking of tradition, especially toward a revered figure is reasonable rage fodder, I think.


There is a difference between TT1 defending Boxer and the way he acting right now.


Yeah TT1 and DivinO are just letting their Idra hate get the better of them.



Oh, I'm not defending TT1 by any means. Just mad at irreverence toward BoxeR.
LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
Traven
Profile Joined March 2011
United States160 Posts
June 13 2011 04:42 GMT
#1622
On June 13 2011 13:38 cheesemaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 13:35 DivinO wrote:
On June 13 2011 13:34 Traven wrote:
This thread has taken a turn for the worse. Idra doesn't gg unless it is in fact a good game to play. It is his own right to do and say what he does in a game and he should not be bashed for his decision on a live report thread.


I must politely disagree with you on that. Traditionally the "gg" (I speak for BW as well as SC2) is a pillar of StarCraft manner, and if he deviates from it the community should have a right to say something about it. Maybe not do anything about it, but say something.

Agreed, its not like anyone thinks that a game they lost is a good game to play for the most part (at least someone like idra who is usually quite bitter about losing) Also the fact that he GG'd everyone else in the NASL (except maybe zenio didnt see those) and then doesnt GG boxer is pretty disrespectful, why is he singling out boxer to be bad mannered too.

Maybe he isn't trying to BM Boxer. Boxer did a double proxy barracks in both games. Anyone would have a bad taste in their mouths after that. There are games that you simply just don't say GG to after you lose. I believe everyone has left a game once without saying GG because of the play of the other player.
IzieBoy
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States865 Posts
June 13 2011 04:42 GMT
#1623
On June 13 2011 13:30 VL-Orion wrote:
I think this comment might be a bit late but for all of you Idra fanboys out there(im an Idra fan too but not a fanatic)
in game 1 boxer do what he always does a proxy 2 barrack push(not an all in as he can easily back off if Idra is ready for it) he made 2 bunkers that is NOT in range of the hatchery, Idra cut of the reinforcement with zerglings so those 2 bunkers really isnt doing anything boxer pull out and expand. There is really no threat there for Idra hatch but instead of making a spine behind and moving it foward or make few roach he decided to attack with alot of zerglings , failing to do so(and losing all the zerglings) and leaves the game. It was a bad decision

game 2 same thing boxer proxy like always this time Idra was ready , boxer pull out and expand make blue flames hellion Idra defends nicely taking 3rd hatch , 4th hatch and teching to greater spire before boxer pushing in from the backrocks.
Idra sees the push he make alot of spines,has fungal to further delay boxer push and broodlord will spawn soon.
Now even if boxer taken the Idra 2nd base he has 2 more base that boxer can attack and by that time Idra would have broodlords, but instead he attack into 10 tanks in a choke and leaves the game.
It wasn't boxer fault in both games Idra make the wrong choices and the abruptly leaves the game


Yes exactly, idra had all the units and proper positioning to defend... however for some reason, he attacks into very unfavorable circumstances... it's almost painful to watch...the "claws on chalkboard" expression or "breaking one's teeth on a bullet"

as zerg your strength is to be able to constantly remax...but that's not possible when ur army simply vaporizes...not having an army during the reload time is very very bad. it's like giving the opponent 30 secs of "power overwhelming"
Let's Do This! Leeeeeeeeeeeeeroy Jenkins!
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
June 13 2011 04:42 GMT
#1624
On June 13 2011 13:40 Defacer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 13:39 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On June 13 2011 13:37 Mailing wrote:
On June 13 2011 13:36 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On June 13 2011 13:30 MrDudeMan wrote:
On June 13 2011 13:26 Itsmedudeman wrote:
wanna know the real difference between tt1 and idra?

idra is a raging crybaby who can't concede he lost to one of the best esports figure to ever exist

the reason anyone gives two shits about idra right now is because of boxer

Its crazy the assumptions people make from a lack of gg.

assumptions? this has been true for every loss idra has incurred in a tournament

he'll go on the next state of the game and complain about zerg or terran being op

I can already imagine it now "yeah i outplayed him really hard even neural'd his siege tanks but terran is broken so I lost"


you sound kinda worked up

I'm worked up that idra called he'd 2-0 both koreans and then lost in embarrassing and classless fashion yeah

it's great


I think he gg'd during the Zenio games. But whatevs.

Yup, he gg'd in both games, and in an interview he said the zenio outplayed him. well he actually said that zenio's meta game was more advanced than his, but thats essentially the same thing. i think idra would recognise that they were 2 very close high level games, and tbh, they coulda gone either way
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Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
June 13 2011 04:42 GMT
#1625
On June 13 2011 13:41 hopoo wrote:
Poll: Which is more annoying?

Idra fanboys (119)
 
72%

People who harass idra fanboys (47)
 
28%

166 total votes

Your vote: Which is more annoying?

(Vote): Idra fanboys
(Vote): People who harass idra fanboys



You forgot to add Option 3: TT1 wanting to shit in IdrA's mouth.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-13 04:44:11
June 13 2011 04:43 GMT
#1626
On June 13 2011 13:41 sc14s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 13:39 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On June 13 2011 13:37 Mailing wrote:
On June 13 2011 13:36 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On June 13 2011 13:30 MrDudeMan wrote:
On June 13 2011 13:26 Itsmedudeman wrote:
wanna know the real difference between tt1 and idra?

idra is a raging crybaby who can't concede he lost to one of the best esports figure to ever exist

the reason anyone gives two shits about idra right now is because of boxer

Its crazy the assumptions people make from a lack of gg.

assumptions? this has been true for every loss idra has incurred in a tournament

he'll go on the next state of the game and complain about zerg or terran being op

I can already imagine it now "yeah i outplayed him really hard even neural'd his siege tanks but terran is broken so I lost"


you sound kinda worked up

I'm worked up that idra called he'd 2-0 both koreans and then lost in embarrassing and classless fashion yeah

it's great

pretty common in general, including when koreans play they claim the same thing. Did you watch the last finals? both sides said like 4-0 minus nestea who said he might win 4-1

when you lose you admit defeat and concede that the other played better

idra doesn't do this

what's so hard to understand?

even after he lost 4 times in a row to MC he would go on state of the game, whine about how he did nothing wrong, MC made many mistakes, and that he lost anyway because protoss is broken
Zanno
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1484 Posts
June 13 2011 04:43 GMT
#1627
On June 13 2011 13:41 DivinO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 13:39 adeezy wrote:
How did idra lose to boxer? It was a pleasant surprise but I wanna know how.


Spoilers ahead!
+ Show Spoiler [G1] +
BoxeR proxies 2 rax and builds bunkers at IdrA's nat and IdrA ragequits.

+ Show Spoiler [G2] +
BoxeR attempts the same thing but it is scouted and he pulls back. Macro game ensues. BoxeR breaks down IdrA's rocks to his (nat? third?) and IdrA attacks into manny sieged tanks. Although he neurals the tanks and the thor, after a while his lack of an army breaks down and IdrA taps out.
you forgot to mention in g2 that idra had 3k banked and was still up 2 bases at the end of the attack while boxer had no money and no reinforcements
aaaaa
Imres
Profile Joined March 2011
515 Posts
June 13 2011 04:43 GMT
#1628
On June 13 2011 13:42 Traven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 13:38 cheesemaster wrote:
On June 13 2011 13:35 DivinO wrote:
On June 13 2011 13:34 Traven wrote:
This thread has taken a turn for the worse. Idra doesn't gg unless it is in fact a good game to play. It is his own right to do and say what he does in a game and he should not be bashed for his decision on a live report thread.


I must politely disagree with you on that. Traditionally the "gg" (I speak for BW as well as SC2) is a pillar of StarCraft manner, and if he deviates from it the community should have a right to say something about it. Maybe not do anything about it, but say something.

Agreed, its not like anyone thinks that a game they lost is a good game to play for the most part (at least someone like idra who is usually quite bitter about losing) Also the fact that he GG'd everyone else in the NASL (except maybe zenio didnt see those) and then doesnt GG boxer is pretty disrespectful, why is he singling out boxer to be bad mannered too.

Maybe he isn't trying to BM Boxer. Boxer did a double proxy barracks in both games. Anyone would have a bad taste in their mouths after that. There are games that you simply just don't say GG to after you lose. I believe everyone has left a game once without saying GG because of the play of the other player.


He played bw in Korea. He knows what gg means so he deliberately bmed.
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
June 13 2011 04:43 GMT
#1629
On June 13 2011 13:40 Zanno wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 13:35 Whole wrote:
On June 13 2011 13:35 jyLee wrote:
So while others are busy trying to build up the esports scene, Idra is doing his best to tear it down with his shitty attitude and lack of sportsmanship. Its really sad because I was always one of the people who would defend the gracken when he started his zerg imba whining or when he would bm on ladder. Its one thing to bm and troll on the internet for fun. You dont comport yourself like that in a tournament and disrespect the sponsors of the tournament and the other competitors. You especially DO NOT FUCK WITH BOXER. Greg I hope you enjoy continuing to lose games and the rest of that quickly receding hairline.


you might want to read this thread.
this is a different issue than the stuff that thread is trolling on

if you read milkis' blog on working for MLG as a translator a lot of the korean players have the perspective that the entire NA scene acts like idra

the NA scene will never take off until the Korean scene takes us seriously for various reasons which is why you see gratuitous amounts of manner from players like incontrol

i'm fairly certain it matters not one whit what the korean netizens think of us, and wont affect e-sports in any way in the foreign side. The scene will do well or fail for other more important and less obvious reasons
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
June 13 2011 04:44 GMT
#1630
On June 13 2011 13:42 Defacer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 13:41 hopoo wrote:
Poll: Which is more annoying?

Idra fanboys (119)
 
72%

People who harass idra fanboys (47)
 
28%

166 total votes

Your vote: Which is more annoying?

(Vote): Idra fanboys
(Vote): People who harass idra fanboys



You forgot to add Option 3: TT1 wanting to shit in IdrA's mouth.

leave his fetish alone
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
June 13 2011 04:44 GMT
#1631
On June 13 2011 13:42 Traven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 13:38 cheesemaster wrote:
On June 13 2011 13:35 DivinO wrote:
On June 13 2011 13:34 Traven wrote:
This thread has taken a turn for the worse. Idra doesn't gg unless it is in fact a good game to play. It is his own right to do and say what he does in a game and he should not be bashed for his decision on a live report thread.


I must politely disagree with you on that. Traditionally the "gg" (I speak for BW as well as SC2) is a pillar of StarCraft manner, and if he deviates from it the community should have a right to say something about it. Maybe not do anything about it, but say something.

Agreed, its not like anyone thinks that a game they lost is a good game to play for the most part (at least someone like idra who is usually quite bitter about losing) Also the fact that he GG'd everyone else in the NASL (except maybe zenio didnt see those) and then doesnt GG boxer is pretty disrespectful, why is he singling out boxer to be bad mannered too.

Maybe he isn't trying to BM Boxer. Boxer did a double proxy barracks in both games. Anyone would have a bad taste in their mouths after that. There are games that you simply just don't say GG to after you lose. I believe everyone has left a game once without saying GG because of the play of the other player.


Thanks for the comment and thanks for being reasonable.

I agree with you there, of course he wasn't trying to BM BoxeR. I don't think IdrA is innately malicious toward anyone he BM's. But not GGing toward someone who deserves a great deal of respect is a bit off-putting.
LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
Nakas
Profile Joined May 2010
United States148 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-13 21:35:03
June 13 2011 04:44 GMT
#1632
Both of those Boxer vs Idra games were pretty piss poor, neither I would consider even close to a "good game".

+ Show Spoiler +
Game 1 was just a silly 2-rax that anyone at diamond level or above can easily do, and will take games off even grandmaster players.

Game 2 was over the moment they spawned in vertical positions. A terran 2-base push through that short and narrow path is pretty much unbeatable. It's just like those pathways on the top and bottom of the old Shakuras map (the ones that were removed because they were imbalanced), but even shorter and quicker to push though. If NASL uses this map again next season, they really should to remove vertical spawns from it, or remove the passage like they did with Shakuras.
rdj107
Profile Joined December 2010
United States336 Posts
June 13 2011 04:44 GMT
#1633
On June 13 2011 13:41 Mycl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 13:39 TT1 wrote:
On June 13 2011 13:37 NinMarth wrote:
i don't really know why everyone is so upset about no gg from idra. i don't think boxer cares if idra ggs or not...

On June 13 2011 13:31 TT1 wrote:
On June 13 2011 13:29 motbob wrote:
2-day bans are about to be handed out like candy. Get ready.


ill be the 1st to go then, fuck u idra fanboys LOL
bande de sale morveux denculer de merde


everytime i see a post from you, i wonder how you are not perma banned -.-


sorry dude someone needs to shit in that kids mouth, i will happily fufill that role and tarnish my already shit filled image even more


You were both at MLG, why not then? You've thrown the gauntlet lets see it done TT1.

You crazy? TT1 getting in a physical confrontation? Nahhhhh, online is safer.
Gretorp
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States586 Posts
June 13 2011 04:44 GMT
#1634
I smile all the time because trolling tools find silly things to QQ over. How can you say I smile in weird situations when you watch on mute. It's just blind hate, and people like him always remind me to take criticism lightly. Hopefully StyleD can help the eSports community or in any community with his psych undergrad to be degree.

Thanks all for a great season. There's more to come and it's been a great journey so far!! :-)
I am Unheard Change
cheesemaster
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1975 Posts
June 13 2011 04:44 GMT
#1635
On June 13 2011 13:40 Defacer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 13:39 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On June 13 2011 13:37 Mailing wrote:
On June 13 2011 13:36 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On June 13 2011 13:30 MrDudeMan wrote:
On June 13 2011 13:26 Itsmedudeman wrote:
wanna know the real difference between tt1 and idra?

idra is a raging crybaby who can't concede he lost to one of the best esports figure to ever exist

the reason anyone gives two shits about idra right now is because of boxer

Its crazy the assumptions people make from a lack of gg.

assumptions? this has been true for every loss idra has incurred in a tournament

he'll go on the next state of the game and complain about zerg or terran being op

I can already imagine it now "yeah i outplayed him really hard even neural'd his siege tanks but terran is broken so I lost"


you sound kinda worked up

I'm worked up that idra called he'd 2-0 both koreans and then lost in embarrassing and classless fashion yeah

it's great


I think he gg'd during the Zenio games. But whatevs.

If he gg'd zenio;s games who he doesnt even like then thats worse, why would he single out boxer? who has never shown any disrespect to him whatsoever. Innocently mispelling his name doesnt count.
Slayers_MMA The terran who beats terrans
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
June 13 2011 04:44 GMT
#1636
On June 13 2011 13:44 rdj107 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 13:41 Mycl wrote:
On June 13 2011 13:39 TT1 wrote:
On June 13 2011 13:37 NinMarth wrote:
i don't really know why everyone is so upset about no gg from idra. i don't think boxer cares if idra ggs or not...

On June 13 2011 13:31 TT1 wrote:
On June 13 2011 13:29 motbob wrote:
2-day bans are about to be handed out like candy. Get ready.


ill be the 1st to go then, fuck u idra fanboys LOL
bande de sale morveux denculer de merde


everytime i see a post from you, i wonder how you are not perma banned -.-


sorry dude someone needs to shit in that kids mouth, i will happily fufill that role and tarnish my already shit filled image even more


You were both at MLG, why not then? You've thrown the gauntlet lets see it done TT1.

You crazy? TT1 getting in a physical confrontation? Nahhhhh, online is safer.


ya idra has been working out. no wonder he is scared.
IzieBoy
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States865 Posts
June 13 2011 04:45 GMT
#1637
On June 13 2011 13:42 Defacer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 13:41 hopoo wrote:
Poll: Which is more annoying?

Idra fanboys (119)
 
72%

People who harass idra fanboys (47)
 
28%

166 total votes

Your vote: Which is more annoying?

(Vote): Idra fanboys
(Vote): People who harass idra fanboys



You forgot to add Option 3: TT1 wanting to shit in IdrA's mouth.


u do realize that most of idra's fans actually are quite normal... it's just that for every reaction there's an equal and opposite reaction... we won't allow people's dirty laundry thrown on idra
Let's Do This! Leeeeeeeeeeeeeroy Jenkins!
shockaslim
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1105 Posts
June 13 2011 04:45 GMT
#1638
Damn TT1 trollin it up!!

But I dunno bruh, this is pretty low even for you lol.
Dirty Deeds...DONE DIRT CHEAP!!!
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
June 13 2011 04:45 GMT
#1639
On June 13 2011 13:43 Zanno wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 13:41 DivinO wrote:
On June 13 2011 13:39 adeezy wrote:
How did idra lose to boxer? It was a pleasant surprise but I wanna know how.


Spoilers ahead!
+ Show Spoiler [G1] +
BoxeR proxies 2 rax and builds bunkers at IdrA's nat and IdrA ragequits.

+ Show Spoiler [G2] +
BoxeR attempts the same thing but it is scouted and he pulls back. Macro game ensues. BoxeR breaks down IdrA's rocks to his (nat? third?) and IdrA attacks into manny sieged tanks. Although he neurals the tanks and the thor, after a while his lack of an army breaks down and IdrA taps out.
you forgot to mention in g2 that idra had 3k banked and was still up 2 bases at the end of the attack while boxer had no money and no reinforcements

I was hoping he would learn from mlg
Zeri
Profile Joined March 2010
United States773 Posts
June 13 2011 04:45 GMT
#1640
On June 13 2011 13:44 Gretorp wrote:
I smile all the time because trolling tools find silly things to QQ over. How can you say I smile in weird situations when you watch on mute. It's just blind hate, and people like him always remind me to take criticism lightly. Hopefully StyleD can help the eSports community or in any community with his psych undergrad to be degree.

Thanks all for a great season. There's more to come and it's been a great journey so far!! :-)


Love you gretorp <3<3<3<3
You can think I'm wrong, but that's no reason to quit thinking.
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