EPTHDH Invitational #1 - Page 295
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
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Brutus
Netherlands284 Posts
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SureYouCan
United States38 Posts
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
On May 24 2010 07:27 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Not yet; the finals were just cast an hour or two ago... they'll be up in a week or so. Speaking of which, not all of the semi-final matches are up on HD and Husky's channels yet. Are you sure about all the semis not being up there? I thought I'd watched them all on youtube. | ||
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RageOverdose
United States690 Posts
On May 24 2010 07:17 SureYouCan wrote: Seriously people... Sen is asian. I know its difficult to imagine, especially with the CRUSHING DEFEAT EUROPE IS GETTING HANDED TO THEM BY ASIA. But non asian players TEND to lose against asian players. They. Are. Better. They prove this every time theres a tournament. Stop comparing Sen, a player far above WhiteRa and Idra in skill level, to Idra. They are better because of how MUCH they fucking play in comparison to us. The competition is so much stronger in South Korea because everyone is playing. So you get a lot more great players, and a lot of lesser players that still know what good play is. And also more ignorant players too, probably. It's mostly a cultural thing. Most of the non-Asian players don't even get a chance to practice against the higher level that their scene has. However, Idra does get this chance, does he not? Isn't he the one playing with them? If he practices as much as he should, logically he should be on par with them. All you just said was white people are inferior. | ||
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Prodtoss
China849 Posts
On May 24 2010 07:28 Brutus wrote: Where can I find the Sen vs WhiteRa games? Are they also casted or just replays? http://sc2.plu.cn/?vodalbum=%u661F%u96452%u7B2C%u4E00%u4EBA%u6218&#vodbox | ||
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figq
12519 Posts
On May 24 2010 07:10 Moon200 wrote: How/Where is going to be announced when the NonY-TLO's going to be broadcasted on ustream?They have the replay, but because of patch 13 they can't view it. They are waiting for Blizzard to fix this before they cast it. Worst case: they just tell us who won. | ||
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SureYouCan
United States38 Posts
Idra should have packed up his hatcheries and moved them down to lost temple, then when WhiteRa advanced his army to there he could have just moved off planet! That way hes never anywhere that cant be blocked off using 10+ forcefields. WHAT WAS I THINKING! | ||
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lolreaper
301 Posts
On May 24 2010 07:28 RageOverdose wrote: They are better because of how MUCH they fucking play in comparison to us. The competition is so much stronger in South Korea because everyone is playing. So you get a lot more great players, and a lot of lesser players that still know what good play is. And also more ignorant players too, probably. It's mostly a cultural thing. Most of the non-Asian players don't even get a chance to practice against the higher level that their scene has. However, Idra does get this chance, does he not? Isn't he the one playing with them? If he practices as much as he should, logically he should be on par with them. All you just said was white people are inferior. also tlo, dimaga, demuslim, white-ra showed they can compete and win with asians this SureYouCan guy is just completely clueless and dont know shit hes talking about On May 24 2010 07:31 SureYouCan wrote: Honestly these people are right. Now that I take another look at the games it was bad position to attack WhiteRa there. Idra should have packed up his hatcheries and moved them down to lost temple, then when WhiteRa advanced his army to there he could have just moved off planet! That way hes never anywhere that cant be blocked off using 10+ forcefields. WHAT WAS I THINKING! obvious troll is obvious fade away clueless maggot | ||
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
On May 24 2010 07:31 figq wrote: How/Where is going to be announced when the NonY-TLO's going to be broadcasted on ustream? On HD and Husky's Youtube channels and the first page in this thread. You will also see it in the upcoming events to the right of the screen. Of course given that they get the replays to work. | ||
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Grettin
42411 Posts
On May 24 2010 07:12 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Except Idra should have known that would happen because... In every game that WhiteRa plays, he uses forcefields incredibly well. So Idra should have made units that don't get screwed over by forcefield, like air units... which would have ALSO raped the collossi. He can harrass the collossi with air while nydusing/running/dropping his ground forces into WhiteRa's base, just like he did against Nony. It's really not that hard. I must admit that you have a good point here. But yeah, still wont change my opinion about forcefields, even that im a protoss player myself.  | ||
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HDstarcraft
United States577 Posts
On May 24 2010 07:27 Bloodyrock wrote: release those replays There is still no way to load the replays currently. | ||
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Vexx
United States462 Posts
On May 24 2010 07:26 iEchoic wrote: You're right, those are terrible suggestions. The best idea is simply to a-move your forces into a 200/200 army positioned perfectly to cut you off with forcefields. What a valuable post, and thanks for your whiny condescension. You see, I didn't make the argument that he should a-move into a forcefield position. That was your attempt to put an argument in my post so that you'd have something to say instead of telling the world "Hey, I don't have enough experience playing the game to criticize IdrA's choices." IdrA was in the hot seat, not you or me. He did not have the spectator view you and I had. I think the bulk of his army was produced long before the colossus showed up (and an observer caught the army comp) and then supply capped so fast he left little room to change his army. With our global view of the match, it's easy for us to say IdrA should have tried drops or he should have grabbed corruptors or XYZ. These are all valid suggestions and other players have already covered them in well written posts in the prior pages. The one thing I would add is that IdrA had a lot more on his mind than you and I did watching the game. He also had to consider that on the same cross-spawn ZvP with Nony, he did drops and split attacks and maybe White-Ra was expecting that so he didn't want to try it again so soon. As to your post, 3 out of 4 of your suggestions were weak and demonstrate to more experienced players that you don't have the grasp of the game to give out suggestions or analyze a match up. So fuck off. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46243 Posts
On May 24 2010 07:31 SureYouCan wrote: Honestly these people are right. Now that I take another look at the games it was bad position to attack WhiteRa there. Idra should have packed up his hatcheries and moved them down to lost temple, then when WhiteRa advanced his army to there he could have just moved off planet! That way hes never anywhere that cant be blocked off using 10+ forcefields. WHAT WAS I THINKING! A sarcastic idiot is still an idiot. It also doesn't refute the dozens of arguments that we've presented you, along with the other options that Idra had besides directly engaging WhiteRa's army composition with his own composition. | ||
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BrickTop
United States37 Posts
It is a map with a lot of narrow paths, so the counter to mass colossi is obviously air (=corruptors). Idra had bad unit composition at 200/200 and he lost. I don't get what's so upsetting about that. A lot of his supply was eaten up by units which are hard countered by colossi & force fields, while he had the economy to produce basically anything (mass corruptors, broodlords, etc.). He just made bad decisions regarding army composition and it cost him the game. | ||
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alfybet
United States57 Posts
On May 24 2010 07:28 RageOverdose wrote: They are better because of how MUCH they fucking play in comparison to us. The competition is so much stronger in South Korea because everyone is playing. So you get a lot more great players, and a lot of lesser players that still know what good play is. And also more ignorant players too, probably. It's mostly a cultural thing. Most of the non-Asian players don't even get a chance to practice against the higher level that their scene has. However, Idra does get this chance, does he not? Isn't he the one playing with them? If he practices as much as he should, logically he should be on par with them. All you just said was white people are inferior. Agree with most of this except the end. There is only 1 Idra, and like 50 or however many people in Asia with the same talent and playing just as much as him. It's unlikely that Idra would really be on par with whoever of the 50 asians turn out to be the best. He's already doing really well according to the asia ladder rankings that were released. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46243 Posts
On May 24 2010 07:33 Grettin wrote: I must admit that you have a good point here. But yeah, still wont change my opinion about forcefields, even that im a protoss player myself. Thanks I'm a Protoss player too, and I incorporate FFs a little into my play... but we simply don't see everybody using them as perfectly as WhiteRa. This means that the spell isn't overpowered; just that WhiteRa has great control! If FF was overpowered, then all Protosses would be steamrolling all ground vs. ground armies easily because *splitting armies in half is soooo broken easy with FF zomg!*. And that simply doesn't happen. But yeah, Idra had a bunch of other things he could have done instead of directly engage WhiteRa with the current units he had as well | ||
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iEchoic
United States1776 Posts
On May 24 2010 07:36 Vexx wrote: IdrA was in the hot seat, not you or me. He did not have the spectator view you and I had. I think the bulk of his army was produced long before the colossus showed up (and an observer caught the army comp) and then supply capped so fast he left little room to change his army. With our global view of the match, it's easy for us to say IdrA should have tried drops or he should have grabbed corruptors or XYZ. These are all valid suggestions and other players have already covered them in well written posts in the prior pages. The one thing I would add is that IdrA had a lot more on his mind than you and I did watching the game. He also had to consider that on the same cross-spawn ZvP with Nony, he did drops and split attacks and maybe White-Ra was expecting that so he didn't want to try it again so soon. What are you even rambling about now? I never said idrA was bad, played badly, or I would have won if I was playing, I was just saying that idrA had opportunities to win the game and did not take them. Therefore, he didn't lose because of imbalance. Learn to read, broski. | ||
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Fraud
Canada108 Posts
On May 24 2010 07:37 BrickTop wrote: Jeez, the Metalopolis loss isn't that complicated... It is a map with a lot of narrow paths, so the counter to mass colossi is obviously air (=corruptors). Idra had bad unit composition at 200/200 and he lost. I don't get what's so upsetting about that. A lot of his supply was eaten up by units which are hard countered by colossi & force fields, while he had the economy to produce basically anything (mass corruptors, broodlords, etc.). He just made bad decisions regarding army composition and it cost him the game. IdrA obviously needed Ultras to counter the forcefields. | ||
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SureYouCan
United States38 Posts
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