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phyren
United States1067 Posts
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SkyBlaze
Canada191 Posts
On March 03 2012 15:41 phyren wrote: How exactly do you shift blink? That is, how do you make a group of stalkers walk to a spot, blink to another spot 1 by 1, and then move out of the way for the next stalker to blink in. I try just setting a waypoint list with shift held down, but all the stalkers move as a group to 1 spot and then blink all at once with only some of them being able to make it to the target. What is the exact series of keys to execute the shift blink? All you need to know about the Smart blink | ||
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-Exalt-
United States972 Posts
what are you guys vetoing? (im high master btw) | ||
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snively
United States1159 Posts
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LaM
United States1321 Posts
On March 04 2012 01:57 snively wrote: is a 6gate vs. zerg considered an all-in? You can take gases and probes behind it and it won't be, but if you are warping in all stalkers off 2 gases or something of that sort than yes it is. Gateway pressures can be used to secure 3rds/snipe 3rds/ease into your tech/or all in. Depends how you build it. | ||
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McTeazy
Canada297 Posts
On March 03 2012 18:55 AegiS_ wrote: I can't decide, veto Cloud Kingdom or Korhal Compound as I've decided to let Shakuras back into my ladder pool. I just am starting to hate these maps pvz.. SO hard vs muta / mass lings (just so many ways to counter on these maps, unlike shak) what are you guys vetoing? (im high master btw) i don't have a problem with korhal for mass lings, the chokes to each base are pretty easy to gateway/cannon wall, but i agree with cloud kingdom... i was trying to take a 4th on it the other day and it was pretty much impossible.... to get around it you could just 2 base all in on cloud kingdom (what i've been doing in all my pvzs cuz i'm a scrub and don't want to learn to play against mutas) | ||
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lorkac
United States2297 Posts
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Geiko
France2053 Posts
On March 04 2012 02:31 lorkac wrote: I've been practicing the 4gate on yabot. I still suck at it. I've been doing it to practice warp ins. My question is this. Before I get too far into my practice of playing Protoss--is 4gate still an essential pvp build to learn or should I practice my mechanics on a different build order? It's still a very decent build. It's also the best build I know to practice early game execution. It has everything you need to work on : probe micro, building timings, constant chrono boost, denying scouting, 1 staler + 1 zealot micro and tier 1 unit micro. Also you can instantly see whether or not you screwed up, and where since your only objective is to warp 4 units at about 5:40 with a 12 gate and 4 CB on core. | ||
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lorkac
United States2297 Posts
On March 04 2012 02:40 Geiko wrote: It's still a very decent build. It's also the best build I know to practice early game execution. It has everything you need to work on : probe micro, building timings, constant chrono boost, denying scouting, 1 staler + 1 zealot micro and tier 1 unit micro. Also you can instantly see whether or not you screwed up, and where since your only objective is to warp 4 units at about 5:40 with a 12 gate and 4 CB on core. You mean 4gate at 6:30 is too slow? Lol. Still improving--soon yabot will be mine! Lol Thanks btw  | ||
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aZealot
New Zealand5447 Posts
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Geiko
France2053 Posts
On March 04 2012 03:26 aZealot wrote: Remember to chain CB on Core as much as possible for the fastest possible WG. When CB expires, you should receive a warning on the left of your screen, "CB has expired" etc. Alternatively, if you have Core on a hotkey, the leaflike icon indicating active CB to the left of the Core icon in the centre panel will disappear reminding you that another CB is required. All the above is true, however, specifically when 4 gating, I find the usage of the in-game timer to be a lot more practical. Look at the time when you first chrono your core, say for example 3:45 (I don't know the exact timing), and then you know you have to CB at 4:05, etc. | ||
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aZealot
New Zealand5447 Posts
I usually have Core on 4 and tap through it (Nexus is 5 and Gates is 6) and drop the CB when the leaf disappears on Core when working through my tap cycle. I'll give the in-game timer a try and see how it goes. Thanks, Geiko. (It would certainly help when I have multiple research requiring CB such as on Forge and TC as there is no leaf icon when you have multiple buildings selected on the same hot key; I've been working off the notification or just the feel of the timing.) | ||
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Vladix
Netherlands227 Posts
I stopped playing for about 2 months and now that i am back i am having trouble with PvP. I go for a blink stalker build with robo, then harash with my blink stalkers while i expand behind it. But most opponents go for 3 gate / robo and just overrun me with colli after a while, even if i tech to colli myself after securing my expo. What is a good build to counter 3 gate / robo ? That seems to be the most commen build in diamond at the moment. Thanks for the help. | ||
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Xanatoss
Germany539 Posts
On March 04 2012 03:47 aZealot wrote: I never thought of using the in-game timer - now that I think of it, it would eliminate that second or so of no CB use before you select Core, Nexus, press C etc because you could be ready to drop a CB before the old one has expired, although, that said, it's one more thing to look for and I am not sure I have the mechanics to do all that yet. >_< I usually have Core on 4 and tap through it (Nexus is 5 and Gates is 6) and drop the CB when the leaf disappears on Core when working through my tap cycle. I'll give the in-game timer a try and see how it goes. Thanks, Geiko. (It would certainly help when I have multiple research requiring CB such as on Forge and TC as there is no leaf icon when you have multiple buildings selected on the same hot key; I've been working off the notification or just the feel of the timing.) With 4 boosts on Warpgate tech you still have a buffer of 40 ingame seconds, so there is no need to line them up _that_ perfectly. Remember, one boost lasts 20 seconds and cuts off 10 seconds until completion, resulting in maximum reduction by 1/3 of original build/tech-time. | ||
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Latedi
Sweden1027 Posts
On March 04 2012 04:23 Vladix wrote: Hey guys. I stopped playing for about 2 months and now that i am back i am having trouble with PvP. I go for a blink stalker build with robo, then harash with my blink stalkers while i expand behind it. But most opponents go for 3 gate / robo and just overrun me with colli after a while, even if i tech to colli myself after securing my expo. What is a good build to counter 3 gate / robo ? That seems to be the most commen build in diamond at the moment. Thanks for the help. If you go for blink and can neither kill nor harass him just take map control. If you can confirm him going colossus its going to be an all in most likely so expand to a base far away from your main so that he can't take both out at the same time. Then when he moves out just move into his base and start killing stuff. If he goes for a base race, you win. If he tries to go back to defend, you just flee and still have an economic advantage. | ||
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mizU
United States12125 Posts
On March 04 2012 04:23 Vladix wrote: Hey guys. I stopped playing for about 2 months and now that i am back i am having trouble with PvP. I go for a blink stalker build with robo, then harash with my blink stalkers while i expand behind it. But most opponents go for 3 gate / robo and just overrun me with colli after a while, even if i tech to colli myself after securing my expo. What is a good build to counter 3 gate / robo ? That seems to be the most commen build in diamond at the moment. Thanks for the help. Alternatively, you can expand off of 2 gates (on maps with a second ramp) if you scout the 3-gate robo. This does however die to 4g wp. | ||
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mizU
United States12125 Posts
On March 03 2012 18:55 AegiS_ wrote: I can't decide, veto Cloud Kingdom or Korhal Compound as I've decided to let Shakuras back into my ladder pool. I just am starting to hate these maps pvz.. SO hard vs muta / mass lings (just so many ways to counter on these maps, unlike shak) what are you guys vetoing? (im high master btw) Why don't you like Cloud? The third is so easy to take. | ||
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Sated
England4983 Posts
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Relewa
Canada27 Posts
btw this guy is my friend and we BM each other a lot so none of you think im a BM player  http://drop.sc/125521 | ||
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snively
United States1159 Posts
is it better for me to focus down his archons, or let my collossi attack his zealots? | ||
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