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solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
December 28 2010 22:21 GMT
#121
So because you think rts' shouldn't be about clicking really fast you think it's okay to use a program/cheat that removes a big part of the clicking and thus makes the game alot easier for you, giving you an advantage over your opponent who does not use this cheat. I can't think of a more flawed argument. You're modifying a program because YOU think the interface is bad but thereby giving you an unfair advantage over your opponent and it's justified because in your opinion blizzard made a flawed game.
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
roadrunner343
Profile Joined November 2010
148 Posts
December 29 2010 00:43 GMT
#122
The stupidity here blows my mind.

Of course the artwork and starcraft 2 name are "Licensed by blizzard," how else would Razer be allowed to use it?

Again, it's still a RAZER keybord. It's not made by blizzard. You do not have the right to use all of the macro functions in game. RAZER advertises the macro abilities, not blizzard. Blizzard does not endorse the use of the macro functions.

And back to the example of steelseries gaming mats... they are blizzard licensed too. They sport some awesome SC2 artwork. This does not make them the "Official starcraft 2 gaming mat" anymore than it makes razer's peripherals "Official Starcraft 2 peripherals."
Barca
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States418 Posts
December 29 2010 01:33 GMT
#123
I too have 1-button casting

Usually, while controlling my Stalkers, I push "B" and press a location to use my Blink micro, I feel that's the best way to do it. Also, when I want to storm I select my Temps and press "T" on an area. This "storm micro technique" as I have dubbed it has been working out pretty well for me since 2007
- I hate threads that end with "Thoughts?" -
captncraig
Profile Joined October 2010
9 Posts
December 29 2010 01:41 GMT
#124
I have used autohotkey to create a variety of macros that I have not yet used in ladders because they are totally imba. I have a bunch of fairly innoculous ones for things like worker micro, and spell casting, but I also have some hardcore ones, like the auto injector, and my all time favorite: the automatic burrower. It can detect any red roaches in my current selection and automatically burrow them, and then pop them up again when they are green again. Totally cheating, but super awesome.
sjschmidt93
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2518 Posts
December 29 2010 02:01 GMT
#125
Some of this stuff in this thread makes me sad.

Do it yourself people. Don't cheat.
My grandpa could've proxied better, and not only does he have arthritis, he's also dead. -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
bobucles
Profile Joined November 2010
410 Posts
December 29 2010 02:11 GMT
#126
On December 29 2010 10:41 captncraig wrote: It can detect any red roaches in my current selection and automatically burrow them, and then pop them up again when they are green again. Totally cheating, but super awesome.
Wait. Autohotkey can do what?

Although it would be totally bad ass for roaches to have auto cast burrowing.
Flexx
Profile Joined August 2010
United States87 Posts
December 29 2010 02:31 GMT
#127
It's called integrity.

Apparently, it's hard to come by in this community. (Which I really didn't expect.)

It really doesn't matter what buttons you re-bind, what macros you use, or what sort of bullshit scripts/bots you decide are worth utilizing. The bottom line is that you're not playing the game the way it is meant to be played by the vast majority of players, and thus any sort of win, or level (points) achieved is not worth shit. You're a cheater by definition, and what's worse, you don't SEE the problem with it.

It's not about comfort, it's not about fixing a crap interface, it's not about an endorsed product, and it's not about what you can and cannot due with the limitations of the hard/software. It's about integrity, ethics and some freaking morality. Grow up, and play the game like it's mean to be played.
Barca
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States418 Posts
December 29 2010 02:40 GMT
#128
On December 29 2010 11:31 Flexx wrote:
It's called integrity.

Apparently, it's hard to come by in this community. (Which I really didn't expect.)

It really doesn't matter what buttons you re-bind, what macros you use, or what sort of bullshit scripts/bots you decide are worth utilizing. The bottom line is that you're not playing the game the way it is meant to be played by the vast majority of players, and thus any sort of win, or level (points) achieved is not worth shit. You're a cheater by definition, and what's worse, you don't SEE the problem with it.

It's not about comfort, it's not about fixing a crap interface, it's not about an endorsed product, and it's not about what you can and cannot due with the limitations of the hard/software. It's about integrity, ethics and some freaking morality. Grow up, and play the game like it's mean to be played.


I wouldn't mark the whole community by a couple bad apples.

Every community has a sheriff. There are bad people everywhere.
- I hate threads that end with "Thoughts?" -
bobucles
Profile Joined November 2010
410 Posts
December 29 2010 02:54 GMT
#129
You're a cheater by definition, and what's worse, you don't SEE the problem with it.

It's not about comfort, it's not about fixing a crap interface, it's not about an endorsed product, and it's not about what you can and cannot due with the limitations of the hard/software. It's about integrity, ethics and some freaking morality. Grow up, and play the game like it's mean to be played.
So I lose integrity by helping my friends play better, so that we can have more fun playing Starcraft?

Bad. Ass.
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sjschmidt93
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2518 Posts
December 29 2010 02:58 GMT
#130
On December 29 2010 11:54 bobucles wrote:
Show nested quote +
You're a cheater by definition, and what's worse, you don't SEE the problem with it.

It's not about comfort, it's not about fixing a crap interface, it's not about an endorsed product, and it's not about what you can and cannot due with the limitations of the hard/software. It's about integrity, ethics and some freaking morality. Grow up, and play the game like it's mean to be played.
So I lose integrity by helping my friends play better, so that we can have more fun playing Starcraft?

Bad. Ass.
+ Show Spoiler +
Starcraft. Serious Business.


No one cares what you do with your friends. Just don't bring it onto ladder.
My grandpa could've proxied better, and not only does he have arthritis, he's also dead. -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
roadrunner343
Profile Joined November 2010
148 Posts
December 29 2010 03:10 GMT
#131
Or if you do bring it on ladder, don't be stupid enough to tell everyone -_-

To those saying it isn't cheating: Just because you are not hacking, doesn't mean you're not cheating. You can definitely do some complex macros that are almost as bad as hacking. So yeah, it's not the same as hacking, but it's still unfair and not permitted.
Phenny
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1435 Posts
December 29 2010 03:14 GMT
#132
Ugh who even cares, it's not going to change anything a great deal, if you're a half decent player you're going to be doing everything at a similar rate to Macroboy anyway.
Flexx
Profile Joined August 2010
United States87 Posts
December 29 2010 03:27 GMT
#133
On December 29 2010 11:54 bobucles wrote:
Show nested quote +
You're a cheater by definition, and what's worse, you don't SEE the problem with it.

It's not about comfort, it's not about fixing a crap interface, it's not about an endorsed product, and it's not about what you can and cannot due with the limitations of the hard/software. It's about integrity, ethics and some freaking morality. Grow up, and play the game like it's mean to be played.
So I lose integrity by helping my friends play better, so that we can have more fun playing Starcraft?

Bad. Ass.
+ Show Spoiler +
Starcraft. Serious Business.


Do you know what is not "fun"? What's not fun is losing to a player that has an unfair advantage over you. That's not fun at all. But you're ok with it... as long as you're the one with the advantage. Because you are having fun.

To be perfectly honest with you it's EXACTLY the same thing as steroids. Anyone can get them, anyone can use them. Hell, they aren't even very hard to hide from testing. The point though, is that people who use them are cheating. Those who don't use them have integrity, those who do lack it. Period.
Trion
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada291 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-29 03:52:30
December 29 2010 03:41 GMT
#134
I use the Razor Spectre to. I want to make a macro that goes something like r click r click r click, so when I use ghosts they would all snipe what ever my cursor is over really fast. The problem is when I try using it in the game 1 ghost would snipe and I would have the unit I was trying to snipe selected.

All I want is to set a macro where I can just move my mouse across the enemy units with ghosts selected, and have all the units die, or have all the ghosts run out of energy before they die.

If you know how to set it up using the Spectre, thanks!

Also, lets keep this thread on topic, its about what macros we use, not if we can use them, which we can.

Edit:
I'm also trying to set up a macro where it says hello and GL HF at the start. When I use it , it takes about 8 seconds to type out with a even delay between each key stroke. How do I fix this?

Edit: Yes I did have "ignore delay between events" checked off, am I missing something?

Edit: I fixed the second problem with GL HF macro, nevermind.
Phenny
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1435 Posts
December 29 2010 03:53 GMT
#135
I can't imagine why it wouldn't work provided it went; enter, g, l, , h, f, enter, or the caps variant if you prefer.

Also the steroids analogy only works for tournaments, where they aren't allowed anyway.
bobucles
Profile Joined November 2010
410 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-29 04:18:45
December 29 2010 04:17 GMT
#136
To be perfectly honest with you it's EXACTLY the same thing as steroids
Wow. Ease off on the MAD. Seriously. You aren't the Blizzard Balance Defense Force.

Besides, using macros is more like football players using code words for known plays. If you pick the wrong strategy, or can't adapt to a changing field, you still lose. The only issue here is making sure everyone gets the same play book.
Keldrath
Profile Joined July 2010
United States449 Posts
December 29 2010 04:23 GMT
#137
its just a feature thats added to the product. it's not allowed in this game or any blizzard games but it is allowed in other games so they didnt leave the feature out. fact is using them is flat out cheating. no ifs ands or buts.
If you want peace... prepare for war.
roadrunner343
Profile Joined November 2010
148 Posts
December 29 2010 04:24 GMT
#138
Bobucles: I'll agree with you on easing off the mad...

But Macros are nowhere near using "code words." Macros allow you to perform an infinite number of actions instantly, assuming you know how to program them. It's not "code" for anything...
JBrown08
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada306 Posts
December 29 2010 04:27 GMT
#139
Am I the only one who has visited every CheesieCat thread in the last week and left flabergasted by the topic at hand? I mean has the TeamLiquid Strat thread really denegraded to the point where topics like this warrant 7 pages of responses!? No you are not allowed macros, and if you think you are...what the hell are you doing on a SC enthusiast site?
Flexx
Profile Joined August 2010
United States87 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-29 04:34:56
December 29 2010 04:32 GMT
#140
On December 29 2010 13:17 bobucles wrote:
Show nested quote +
To be perfectly honest with you it's EXACTLY the same thing as steroids
Wow. Ease off on the MAD. Seriously. You aren't the Blizzard Balance Defense Force.

Besides, using macros is more like football players using code words for known plays. If you pick the wrong strategy, or can't adapt to a changing field, you still lose. The only issue here is making sure everyone gets the same play book.


I loath cheating, and I despise unfair game play... I need no other reason than that to post in this thread.

Back on topic:

You're wrong... macro's are much more akin to people using weighted boxing gloves.

By your logic, I'm picking an incorrect strategy by refusing to use outside help to play the game in a non-standard way? Sensible...

None of these things will ever, ever be allowed in tournaments. Do you know why? Because they give the player using them and unfair advantage over a player who is not.
These things are not a sign of the times. They are not gameplay advancements that will shape the future of how Starcraft is played. They are a crutch for the weak. They are used by those who cannot compete fairly and honestly.

I promise you this, the professional scene will not tolerate these (or any other) types of macros/rebinds. Why hold yourself to anything but the most premium of standards?
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