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bobucles
410 Posts
You're just being extremely ignorant, like all cheaters are. It's not cheating, because fighting the Starcraft II interface isn't a competitive E-sport.Outsmarting your opponent IS. If macros make your guys fight harder, your workers mine faster, and heals your units for free, then there is a problem. | ||
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
On December 29 2010 23:04 chessiecat wrote: Getting called names is getting a bit old, I've got to admit. Reading shitty threads which you start is getting a bit old, I've got to admit. In two weeks you have posted 37 times. Most of them have been in your own threads. In two weeks you have started 7 threads. They all have been answered multiple times and come with great discussion points such as, Dealing with The Early Ghost in PVT, 4-gate Forge Cannon Push?, Who is the Protoss Hero?, Effective Use of Stalker/Zealot?, Was Brood War as Cheese heavy as SC2?, Multi-Player Unit Tester?. And lest I forget, the best of all. The Fear Of Bronze. Play some games instead of thinking up terrible threads and openly acknowledging that you cheat and cannot advance leagues. This should alleviate the name calling. Frankly your posting is trash. | ||
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chessiecat
82 Posts
I also searched the forums for the specific answers to each of those posts and in each of those threads I got new information on the subjects I was posting for. | ||
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xJaCEx
155 Posts
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/791409182?page=2 So imo switching hotkeys is currently frowned upon by blizzards but will most likely not get you banned unless you are doing it by edit files or stuff that would make them think something is up. However the reality is they could ban you for almost any reason they wanted to so you probably should not admit your using macros or anything else that doesn't come with starcraft 2 besides a monitor and keyboard. Also to people who say it can't be detected imo I think you are wrong I believe blizzards has the right to scan your computer when you agree to the tos and that is to my knowledge how they detect most hacks with other bnet games. Obv you can avoid it or get around it but at that point imo your not a gamer anymore. | ||
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chessiecat
82 Posts
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xJaCEx
155 Posts
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BukoJuko
United States7 Posts
On December 28 2010 11:40 Shikyo wrote: Oh, that changes everything. It would do so much good for the game if you could just press 4 and all your Queens spawn larvae on every single of your hatcheries. Why not just play on slowest speed, or make the game turn-based instead? No macro could do that man...that is not how it works. I would definitly like to see more info on this issue tho..it doesnt make sense for blizzard to put their name all over the keyboard and ban people for using functions that are built into it | ||
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thesmoosh
113 Posts
On December 29 2010 13:43 Ir0nClad wrote: Here is Blizzard's stance on it. The sixth header states: The header is a link that points here, of which the first quote and the following paragraph are quite interesting to the "debate" in this thread: Unwanted anomalies have already been stated in this thread, such as the queens moving across the map. I don't see how this applies to drivers for your hardware. They do not increase your "resource gathering rate" or "map visibility," they also don't obtain any information from the game that is not normally available, nor do they "transmit or modify any of the game files." Like I said earlier, until someone can link a post by blizzard saying "you are not allowed to use mouse/keyboard macros in starcraft" you should all keep you "OMG IT'S CHEATING" nonsense to yourselves. This is a very simple issue to resolve and it has nothing to do with opinion. | ||
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chessiecat
82 Posts
Well you're right it is very vague. It's best to use common sense. If it feels like cheating then it may be. But the best thing to remember is that as long as you aren't changing the games programming or botting then you should be fine. No map hacks, automated programs, or other program/game altering should be used and other than that you welcome to use the macros all you want. Sincerely, Judah H. Customer Services Blizzard Entertainment -----Original Message----- From: To: web.support@blizzard.com Sent: 12/27/2010 6:04:32 PM Subject: [en]StarCraft II -- Miscellaneous Game Information Contact Information ----------------------- Name: Chessie Email: System Information ------------------------ IP: Request ------------------------------------ Product: StarCraft II Category: Miscellaneous Game Information Description -------------------------------- I got a Spectre Mouse and Marauder Keyboard for Christmas this year. The included software allows for the creation of very complex macro's. I would like to know exactly what sort of macro I am disallowed from creating under the terms of service. As it stands right now they are rather vague (or at least, I couldn't find a section pertaining to this particular issue.) What is the current Blizzard policy on complex macros? (setting Zerg Hatcheries to inject with just a couple button presses or setting EMP to cast from one button on my mouse. That sort of thing.) None of these seem terribly game breaking but I figure I ought to ask before I proceed. | ||
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Pharaun
Germany150 Posts
Like I said earlier, until someone can link a post by blizzard saying "you are not allowed to use mouse/keyboard macros in starcraft" you should all keep you "OMG IT'S CHEATING" nonsense to yourselves. This is a very simple issue to resolve and it has nothing to do with opinion. Hallo XXXX, vielen Dank für Ihre Email bezüglich StarCraft II. Jegliche Automatisierung der Spielabläufe verstößt gegen die Nutzungsbestimmungen des Battle.net und dürfen nicht benutzt werden. So lange Sie nur etwas spezielles im Chat schreiben möchten, wie "gg hf" ist es nicht verboten. Wir hoffen Ihnen hiermit weitergeholfen zu haben und wünschen Ihnen noch viel Spaß in StarCraft II. Sollten Sie weitere Fragen oder Anliegen haben, zögern Sie bitte nicht uns erneut zu kontaktieren. Mit freundlichen Grüßen Blizzard Entertainment Europe Stefan K. http://eu.blizzard.com/support Basically the Support said, any automating of the Gameaction is forbidden. This email i got back in August, cause i wasn't sure if macros are ok on my gaming mouse, so I asked if its ok, to bin "a,click" to a button and a macro to say gl&hf. To write something in chat with a macro is ok. | ||
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solidbebe
Netherlands4921 Posts
you should all keep you "OMG IT'S CHEATING" nonsense to yourselves. I can't believe you seriously just typed that, really in all honesty look at that sentence from a completely unbiased view and just think of how retarded it is. | ||
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chessiecat
82 Posts
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Pharaun
Germany150 Posts
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AScenT
United States13 Posts
On December 30 2010 04:58 chessiecat wrote: That's...um...That's in German. I don't suppose you have that e-mail in English? A quick toss into google translate returns Hi XXXX, Thank you for your email regarding StarCraft II Any automation of the game procedures violate the terms of Battle.net and may not be used. As long as you only want to write something special in the chat, like "gg hf" is not prohibited. We hope to have helped with this and wish you much fun in Starcraft II If you have any questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us again. Yours sincerely, Which is exactly what Pharaun explained it to be. You also have ignored the posts explaining botting. I'll re-iterate it for you, botting is the use of a program to automate game actions for you. Therefore using a macro (which is done using a program in most cases) to automate the actions of larvae inject on all your hatcheries is botting. Remapping your hotkeys is a macro and is fine. We've given you countless examples on how botting is not allowed and even blizzard says it, so I don't understand how you don't see it anymore. | ||
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chessiecat
82 Posts
That's pretty messed up right there...and entirely consistent with Blizzard's recent customer service. | ||
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Pharaun
Germany150 Posts
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chessiecat
82 Posts
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AScenT
United States13 Posts
On December 30 2010 05:12 chessiecat wrote: So we have one message from Blizzard saying 'don't do it' and one saying ' sure, go ahead' That's pretty messed up right there...and entirely consistent with Blizzard's recent customer service. Which one said go ahead? Yours states you may use macros, ie. remapping hotkeys. As I explained if you are automating the game (casting larvae inject on all your hatcheries with few buttons) you are botting. Even in your email they stated this is wrong. Try looking up botting, you'll see its exactly how I described. | ||
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chessiecat
82 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On December 30 2010 05:16 chessiecat wrote: I think we're facing a classic issue that Blizzard has had before. The customer service people have absolutely no idea what the official stance is and one err's on the side of caution and the other on the side of open play. The only issue we are facing is that you and many others are cheaters but instead of just admitting it and continuing cheating you try and act as if it's not. I hope when hackers get caught hacking they don't say it's alright. | ||
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