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rajod
Profile Joined December 2009
United States2 Posts
January 07 2011 01:47 GMT
#281
from the sounds of the posts. It appears a heard mentality or maybe an age thing.

Macros are not a cheat.

Any company can do anything it wants Blizzard can shut down all their servers etc. Don't live in fear and don't listen to the dribble of some of these minors with no legal experience.

use your keyboard don't listen to the 10 year olds.

this is not WOW its about SC2 macros.

And the Tos will not hold up in court concerning macros. Its a stupid conversation cause it will never get to that point. More likely whiners will protest to blizzard much like a kid say "Im telling my mom" someday these kids will grow up.

It is not a modification to any of the source code.

Don't use a lazer mouse pad, the fantasy net cops will ban you!

Its all a bunch of fear mongering from cry babies that think its a cheat.

Keep LAN mode for SC2
RoosterSamurai
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan2108 Posts
January 07 2011 01:57 GMT
#282
I have an Ideazon reaper edge mouse and Razer lycosa keyboard, and 0 hotkey bindings.
eth3n
Profile Joined August 2010
718 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-07 02:02:18
January 07 2011 02:00 GMT
#283
On January 04 2011 04:31 pirsq wrote:
Banning people for this will end up with a class-action lawsuit that they will almost certainly lose.

read a treatise on complex litigation and shrinkwrap contracts please

also with actual damages at less than 60 dollars per customer (lets pretend that blizz will stipulate to these damages even though this would never happen), no lawyer would ever take the case as it wouldn't be remotely profitable.

that being said, blizzard are still ridiculous for this whole situation rofl
Idra Potter: I don't use avada kedavra because i have self-respect.
Moriarity
Profile Joined December 2010
United States91 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-07 03:06:32
January 07 2011 03:05 GMT
#284
On January 06 2011 23:07 Hubris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2011 21:52 Akash wrote:
Ok. I've read like the first 8 pages of responses on this thread.

I will not reiterate what the other ppl said.But know one thing.
Blizz can ban u for any reason from not liking the sound of ur name or they having a bad day at the office.It's in the freaking ToS .Thats stated in the WoW EULA too(the wall of text that no one reads and u press "accept" 3-4 times after u patched WoW).

Please remember that when u are trying to justify "is a Blizz product".It's not a Blizz product.If it has they're name on them ,doesnt mean it's a Blizz product.It's a Razer product or whatever company made it.
They banned ppl in WoW for even less.ToS states that they can ban u for any non-logical reason they can think off.
And when u press "I Agree" u cannot take legal actions if they ban u.Simple as that.

Not gonna start the ol' "back in my days,we had to click on each buildings to make stuff" .
I'm not a imba BW player.I was D- on Iccup,because when i started playing RTS WC3 was the next big thing.
The point is the interface already becomed incredibly simple.What do u want more?

When i've read certain ppl posts regarding "EMP macros" or "Larva inject macro".
If u want to perfectly inject larva,mentally train urself to count in ur head and every 40 game sec,an reflex should appear,like a ur finger twitching or a small itch on ur nose.
And then u will inject larva like a metronome.

If ppl will accept this? Ppl have proved that in the past,the more amends u make to them,the more they will want later.
Soon they will want giant macros that will allow entire BO to be perfectly done without any human error (missing a svc or harvesting 4 more gas then necessary).


Again,they banned ppl for far less in WoW.They can ban u for nothing.Is stated in the ToS.
Do not give them any reasons to do that.
Play the game as it is.

I don't see why people are expecting Blizzard to enforce this, most macros will be impossible to detect. I don't even see much of an advantage at all to using them. So you can inject in two clicks? Bind the backspace key to your mouse, and you can inject nearly as fast. The difference would be milliseconds. The macro will get you an advantage over someone who doesn't inject properly, but that's it. Personally I will be happy if they can detect maphack, I'm not at all worried about macros.


If u play a long macro game with like 4-5 hatches or more,the advantage of someone using macro compared to someone not using it is not milliseconds.It's more like 1-2 seconds.And for ppl saying "1-2 sec more is shit" pls think that sometimes those 1-2 sec will add up on the course of a long game.And that is spare time which u can do more.

And that will be even more relevant in a mirror match.
ZvZ is most of the time a macro game.Perfect injects means more larva which means more stuff,including and not limited to drones.

At low lvl,macros can patch the gap from lack of mechanincs.But if better ppl start using them,at higher skill lvl,they will know how to use those extra 2 sec or the extra larva considering the other guy doesnt have perfect larva injecting skills (most pros still miss a inject by a few to tens of seconds).
And that will make ppl not using them start using them (assuming they are legal as some ppl claim).

It's Blizzard licensed, promoted, and sold. It's a Blizz product. This isn't a difficult concept. And "they can ban you for whatever they want" isn't part of the argument against macros. Even if it was, being a BLIZZARD LICENSED PRODUCT you'd be able to sue or at least get unbanned. I'm not for either side of macros because I think it's retarded to blow it out of proportion, but this ignoring of simple logic and legal ability is just mind numbing.

Edit: Not directed to you specifically, but this entire thread is filled with people who are angry at others for having some sort of advantage. Sorry, it might not seem just, but there are thousands of these products out there. So, until Blizz either pulls the product or makes it CLEAR for the thousands of people using their game that it isn't allowed it will continue to be used.


It's not a blizzard product because blizzard didn't make it genius. Not to mention just because the keyboard has extra keys just for macros doesn't mean blizzard said you can use macros. Also if blizzard wrote in the EULA that they can ban you for whatever reason they want and you agreed you have no case in court despite anything you want to believe. You might not even get your day in court since they will most likely just throw the case out. As far as I'm concerned 1:1 macros are fine, macros that perform 2+ actions with 1 button press/mouseclick is giving you an unfair advantage. If it's not an unfair advantage then play without macros and see if your game is still as good as it was with macros.
charlie420247
Profile Joined November 2009
United States692 Posts
January 07 2011 03:23 GMT
#285
On December 28 2010 11:09 Shikyo wrote:
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On December 28 2010 11:01 pwnasaurus wrote:
Yup, and definitely isn't allowed in tourneys, so I wouldn't get used to using them if you ever plan on competing.

Was wondering where I've seen that username recently:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=179118

Probably not going to compete any time soon. Also seems like a "I am terrible legitly so let me cheat" train of thought.

It's illegal and you'll hopefully get banned if caught.


this is so golden and awesome hahahahhahaha reminds me of bw on battle net west where everyone constantly hacked but you could pwn the fuck out of any of them easily cuz they sucked at the game and then once you found people who didnt use macro hacks like the folks that play iccup you start getting your ass whooped.
there are 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who dont.
charlie420247
Profile Joined November 2009
United States692 Posts
January 07 2011 03:34 GMT
#286
On December 29 2010 23:19 Ummbeefy wrote:
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On December 29 2010 23:04 chessiecat wrote:
Getting called names is getting a bit old, I've got to admit.



Reading shitty threads which you start is getting a bit old, I've got to admit.

In two weeks you have posted 37 times.

Most of them have been in your own threads.

In two weeks you have started 7 threads. They all have been answered multiple times and come with great discussion points such as, Dealing with The Early Ghost in PVT, 4-gate Forge Cannon Push?,
Who is the Protoss Hero?, Effective Use of Stalker/Zealot?, Was Brood War as Cheese heavy as SC2?,
Multi-Player Unit Tester?.

And lest I forget, the best of all. The Fear Of Bronze.

Play some games instead of thinking up terrible threads and openly acknowledging that you cheat and cannot advance leagues. This should alleviate the name calling. Frankly your posting is trash.


LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE FEAR OF BRONZE HAHAHAHHAHAHAH sorry cheesie but that shit is funny and just made my day. on a more constructive note. have you done any experimentation on blanket storming/ fungal growthing/emping??????
there are 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who dont.
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