EPTBtw im against macros, they are good for WoW but SC2 is tap tap revenge and from learning how to tap tap will open up minds to think creatively
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TalonKarrde
Canada104 Posts
Btw im against macros, they are good for WoW but SC2 is tap tap revenge and from learning how to tap tap will open up minds to think creatively | ||
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bobucles
410 Posts
I can't believe people are seriously trying to justify cheating, I can't believe people are seriously trying to rationalize it as cheating.Bots are one thing, but there's nothing wrong with making the game behave the way it SHOULD HAVE at release. | ||
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gautamvirk86
India55 Posts
i have all Hatches on 0, so G1 = 0,S (that selects all my larva on all the hatches) G2 = 0,S, d,d,d,d,d,d,d,d ( i call that my drone hard button ) and then all the rest of the 4 G keys are set on each Queen so i have each queen on 4, 5 , 6 ,7 G3 = 4,4, V G4 = 5,5, V and so on anyways i am not going to get into the whole controversy of if this will get me banned or not, but i am just answering the OPs question | ||
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dgReborn
United States453 Posts
On December 29 2010 03:48 gautamvirk86 wrote: OK so i have a G15 Keyboard i have all Hatches on 0, so G1 = 0,S (that selects all my larva on all the hatches) G2 = 0,S, d,d,d,d,d,d,d,d ( i call that my drone hard button ) and then all the rest of the 4 G keys are set on each Queen so i have each queen on 4, 5 , 6 ,7 G3 = 4,4, V G4 = 5,5, V and so on anyways i am not going to get into the whole controversy of if this will get me banned or not, but i am just answering the OPs question Hmm I personally would rather put all queens on a button macroed with V, then hold shift and just use the minimap. I feel it would be faster that way. ANd yeht eh controversy is stupid. People don't know the difference between Macros and bots. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On December 29 2010 03:40 bobucles wrote: I can't believe people are seriously trying to rationalize it as cheating. Bots are one thing, but there's nothing wrong with making the game behave the way it SHOULD HAVE at release. So the game should allow you to make one button do multiple actions? No it should not. Remapping hotkeys IS fine and condoned. Creating macros are not and is cheating. | ||
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majestouch
United States395 Posts
other binds if i'm going roach hydra brood: 1/2/7 respectively muta sling bling brood: muta-1 sling/bling-2 brood-7 | ||
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gautamvirk86
India55 Posts
dgReborn December 29 2010 03:50. Posts 232 Hmm I personally would rather put all queens on a button macroed with V, then hold shift and just use the minimap. I feel it would be faster that way. ANd yeht eh controversy is stupid. People don't know the difference between Macros and bots. Yeah i am not a big fan of Map spewing larva trick. plus i couldnt think of anything else to do with the rest of the G keys of the whole queen thing was perfect for me. May i also suggest using the extra queen and putting in the macro as 6, 6, C (6 being the hotkey for queen) and then you can always use it to spread creep as long as u can time it with the rest of the queens it works great so i spew spew with the first two and then i POO with the extra one | ||
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majestouch
United States395 Posts
On December 29 2010 03:54 Numy wrote: So the game should allow you to make one button do multiple actions? No it should not. Remapping hotkeys IS fine and condoned. Creating macros are not and is cheating. afaik, wow pve and pvp is filled with macros which are blizzard sanctioned and creating macros thru your mouse/keyboard is the same thing just using software that isn't sanctioned by blizzard, but also, in their EULA it doesn't say you can't use: logitech setpoint blah blah. thus, it is legal and ppl who whine it isn't are fags. moreover, most people who use macros aren't good anyway seeing they are typically for people w/ lower apm. | ||
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gautamvirk86
India55 Posts
Lets just stick with what the OP wanted to go with. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On December 29 2010 04:00 majestouch wrote: afaik, wow pve and pvp is filled with macros which are blizzard sanctioned and creating macros thru your mouse/keyboard is the same thing just using software that isn't sanctioned by blizzard, but also, in their EULA it doesn't say you can't use: logitech setpoint blah blah. thus, it is legal and ppl who whine it isn't are fags. moreover, most people who use macros aren't good anyway seeing they are typically for people w/ lower apm. WoW macros are all 1 button one action. In order for it to do more than 1 action you have to either press it more than once(sequence) or create another macro. The only difference is stuff like mouseover or other selection also stuff off CGD which generally isn't that important. This is a perfect example of cheating: On December 29 2010 03:48 gautamvirk86 wrote: OK so i have a G15 Keyboard i have all Hatches on 0, so G1 = 0,S (that selects all my larva on all the hatches) G2 = 0,S, d,d,d,d,d,d,d,d ( i call that my drone hard button ) and then all the rest of the 4 G keys are set on each Queen so i have each queen on 4, 5 , 6 ,7 G3 = 4,4, V G4 = 5,5, V and so on anyways i am not going to get into the whole controversy of if this will get me banned or not, but i am just answering the OPs question 1 button doing 10 actions. | ||
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ZeroTalent
United States297 Posts
on-topic: while what makes starcraft hard is the multitasking, the stuff that is macroable is not the kind of multitasking that is hard. If you can remember to build units during the heat of battle, whether you have to hit "4ss3aaad<tab>ss<tab>vd" or the WIN button doesn't make that much difference. The hard part is remembering to do all that stuff in the first place. Use keyboard/mouse macros all you want; if your unit composition and positioning still sucks, or you forget to hit your production macros when the early harassment comes in, you'll still lose. | ||
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Wrongspeedy
United States1655 Posts
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dgReborn
United States453 Posts
On December 29 2010 04:01 Numy wrote: WoW macros are all 1 button one action. In order for it to do more than 1 action you have to either press it more than once or create another macro. The only difference is stuff like mouseover or other selection. This is a perfect example of cheating: 1 button doing 10 actions. 1 button doing 10 actions? Are you retarded? The only one that can be considered doing that is the second one and even that is pushing it. Every single other one simply selects the building/queen and sets your curser as spawn larva or selects larva. And by that logic i actually think the second one is worse then just pressing 4,s,hold d as the macro has a limit. | ||
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bri9and
United States246 Posts
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Nazarid
United States445 Posts
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Reason.SC2
Canada1047 Posts
Macros (which bind 1 key to multiple keystroke assignments) are illegal, against the Terms of Service, and you *will* be banned if/when blizz finds out you're using them. + Show Spoiler + no it does not matter if you're using razer peripherals that say "starcraft 2" on them... its still against the ToS and quite obviously dumbs down the game in a way that would make it pretty stupid. A well-designed macro could execute a 4-gate rush with literally one click up until the point where you have to micro. Is that what you want to happen to SC2, morons? Rebinding keys (via mouse/keyboard drivers + software, or via Starcraft 2 menu on PTR) is not illegal. It may provide an advantage if you find a very optimal key layout that increases your physical APM cap, but is confirmed to be supported by Blizzard in the upcoming patch. + Show Spoiler + not to mention that starcraft 2 is pretty much the only new game in which you weren't able to fully customize your keys from the outset... this is standard practice and levels the playing field for people who use their right hand for keyboard hand, or who have very small hands and can't constantly span accross the keyboard to reach some things... ffs I see minigun, who is a very good player, using his mouse to build immortals because of the inconvenient key layout. Anyways if that doesn't clear it up for whoever is still under the impression that macros are legal or that rebinding keys is illegal, then i'm not sure I know what will. | ||
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AScenT
United States13 Posts
Some people really REALLY need to learn to differentiate between macros and bots....IF it's something that automates a process, like say making a scv every 17 seconds, without the requirement of a keypress, Thats a bot and is prohibited. If it's a system that changes say 1 keypress into 2, thats a macro. A macro is not a bot. If it auto injects without any keypresses. Thats a bot. If it simply makes it so that by pressing button "A" it presses 5->V so you can click on the hatch to inject, thats a macro. That's also ubelievably minor. Actually someone who plays normally would prolly get messed up if they tried to use this macro for the first few days. And you should also realise that a macro like this is still a decision. You remember to inject so you press the button and click the hatch. You save a total of prolly .1 seconds actually. This. Having one key do multiple actions is botting. It is using a third-party program (in this case this means a program NOT Starcraft 2, it does not mean a program created/endorsed by someone other than Blizzard) to perform automated actions for you. That's a bot. I'd also like to address the "fixing the interface" argument. This is Blizzard's product, thus they dictate the interface. If you don't like how things are done or think they are archaic then it is your responsibility to tell Blizzard that so THEY can fix it. It is not up to you to fix their product, and if they don't want to change something (they are adding the ability to remap hotkeys) then it is working as they INTENDED and by you using bots you are breaking their game. It is Blizzard's game, they decide how we should play it. If you don't like how it's played then don't play it. If you are finding a way to play in a manner other than the one they intended for you to use, they have every right to ban you, especially when its giving you an advantage over other legitimate players in a multiplayer game. Otherwise adapt and play it like everyone else and play it the way Blizzard meant it to be played. | ||
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zanbo123
68 Posts
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holynorth
United States590 Posts
On December 28 2010 19:58 roadrunner343 wrote: Uhg. Once again, just because Blizzard licensed the starcraft name, logo, and artwork to Razer does not mean they had anything to do with the keyboard, nor does it mean they endorsed it, its software, or it's potentially illegal use. Razer designed the keyboard, mouse, and headset... they are the ones that added the macro functionality, not blizzard. It's like saying SteelSeries' SC2 themed mats were endorsed by blizzard. It doesn't make a difference if you use macros on your Lycosa, the Black widow, or a G15... macros are macros, and Razer and Logitech are both third parties. Artwork doesn't mean anything. Actually, the TOS says that you cannot use any third party programs not licensed by Blizzard. Well guess what? When you open the software it has a huge "Licensed by Blizzard" logo on it. Sounds legal to me. There is no other statement in the TOS that would apply here. Try again. Also, the Blackwidow keyboard is the safest for macros as the keyboard sends individual keypresses to your computer when you press a macro button, unlike other keyboards which has the software do it. Therefore, it is impossible to catch. | ||
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holynorth
United States590 Posts
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