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bigbeau
Profile Joined October 2010
368 Posts
December 28 2010 05:58 GMT
#41
they ban 2 buttons to 1 hotkey not 1 button to one hotkey and OP i remember your other post about cheese. you were calling cheesing players rude (for reasons i still cant figure out) but youre the one cheating. sad thing is youre still not diamond. if i had all these cheats id be top 200
MERLIN.
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada546 Posts
December 28 2010 06:11 GMT
#42
Bigbeau please elaborate on all these "cheats" he has. If you had operation cwal you'd still not be top 200. Please don't post some ridiclous statement which is insulting to someone who came on posting there opinions. It's ignorant and rude.

Out of curiosity, what is your rank, such that it must be impressive behond measure to give you the right to insult someone else over their legitimately bought product from Starcraft that gives him the right to Macro his keys in such a way that he did.

Point is Bigbeau, please just if you are trying to make any point at all, why not do it taking into consideration the way you are presenting it... Sure, you can be an ignorant little prick all you want and I'm not going to "Kill you" or threaten you in anyway to stop... Common decent behaviour is nice though when dealing in a mature way with a generally Adult orientated community.

Merlin.
"A bullet to the head will solve your problems."
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10343 Posts
December 28 2010 06:18 GMT
#43
It's illegal and you'll hopefully get banned if caught.


It's definitely legal, but it's against Blizzard's terms. You can get banned but Blizzard isn't the government. Then can stop you from playing their game but they can't jail you for it.
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bigbeau
Profile Joined October 2010
368 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-28 06:28:43
December 28 2010 06:21 GMT
#44
Cheating: A player gaining an unfair advantage through the use of third party products.
2 buttons on one hotkey is cheating.
Queen auto inject is so cheating. Infested Terran isn't so bad but still ridiculous.
And Im a 2.4k diamond and I obviously wouldn't be top 200 it's called hyperbole. As it stands in top 3k NA so yeah. I'm not saying I'm great or bragging but he's clearly cheating and then acting like it's not and also calling people who cheese rude which is just retarded. My only point is him still being bronze or gold or whatever is like someone who uses steroids getting cut from a varsity sport
edit: also I didn't know wtf operation cwal meant but I looked it up and I can guarantee you I'd be number one in the world with that cheat. Since you ignored my hyperbole I'm gonna go ahead and ignore yours
MERLIN.
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada546 Posts
December 28 2010 06:30 GMT
#45
First off his "thirdparty" product is actually not thirdparty... Do you know what the definition of "thirdparty" is because blizzard created Starcraft, Starcraft Broodwar and Starcraft 2: Wings of Liberty. By this, if Blizzard's company creates a Mouse and Keyboard aimed at use for Starcraft that is no "thirdparty" product. So I geuss from your definition of cheating it's already a bit off, but I do understand where you are coming from, and I do agree it is "cheating" but if he isn't playing competetively then who gives a fuck.

Secondly, your point is never going to get across anyway because you do it in a rude and insulting manner "ope if he used steriods hehe... and got cut from varsity oh oh, heyyyyy that might be a good analogy for someone trying to learn SC and buying a product from Blizzard for the game and playing it with it's potential... I BETTER use this analogy to really fuck with this beginners head" who's just trying to get his name out a bit in the community.

How about you mind your P's and Q's so we can all just get along.

Merlin
"A bullet to the head will solve your problems."
bigbeau
Profile Joined October 2010
368 Posts
December 28 2010 06:40 GMT
#46
Okay argue semantics on my definition of cheating. How about cheating in starcraft: an act that will get you banned because blizzard doesn't allow it. It is their product you still can't have multibound macro keys. They probably are designed that way because of blizzards other huge game. You know, world of Warcraft? And he's cheating the people he's playing against. Idc what level unless it's with his friends and they are aware of it.
Only reason i'm being rude is op is rude in both his actions (by cheating) and his calling cheesers rude in another post. Read the whole other thread.
Lol I notice you didn't say anything about my rank either? You assume I was gold or lower?
MERLIN.
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada546 Posts
December 28 2010 06:49 GMT
#47
No I assumed you were high diamond, but it's not like your rank WoW'd me in any sense. But it's interesting to me, you're arguing that they "probably designed" this "maruader" keyboard for wc3 ya know... because what better way to incorporate a new keyboard with SC2 titles all over it, because wc3 needs a new one!

I read his other post. But everywhere you've tried to throw your posts around, they've all generally been slightly off or incorrect. For instance, find me a "rule" in Starcraft2, on Blizzard.com that states that using the "Starcraft" sponsored keyboard/mouse you may not use its functions that "They" created and placed on it to be used.

This topic is now, idiotic because you've pushed the agenda to an area where I don't approve of going, which is mindless arguments.

Have fun.

Merlin.
"A bullet to the head will solve your problems."
Tevinhead
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom470 Posts
December 28 2010 07:00 GMT
#48
I don't care if it's legal or illegal. Endorsed by Blizzard or forbidden. In my opinion this is blatantly cheating. Using a program to reduce the number of button presses you have to make? Of course that's a handicap. Any handicap like that is cheating. I hate the fact that people are even arguing against this. Needless to say people in this thread who are ok with cheating have less than 50 posts. x.x.
bigbeau
Profile Joined October 2010
368 Posts
December 28 2010 07:06 GMT
#49
No they designed it for sc2 obviously with the idea many of their players also play wow. Look it up yourself. Players have been banned for it. Although there is a debate whether blizzard bans just for third party keyboard macro buttons or all macro. If it's just third party then you everyone else and I can agree that that's ridiculous and stupid. Also it seems that this marauder keyboard is the wow keyboard with starcraft 2 overlay. Which is also some bullshit.
Cyanocyst
Profile Joined October 2010
2222 Posts
December 28 2010 07:28 GMT
#50
I don't get why people would want to make the game easier. The reason i enjoy winning is cause its a bit challenging. Who cares if one can do an easy task.

If you wan't to play an easy game, go play COD or something.
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Doomblaze
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1292 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-28 07:35:12
December 28 2010 07:34 GMT
#51
Using macros will not make you any better at the game, since they will not teach you how tot play.. They will only make little things faster, and not by very much. A battle isn't going to be won because you stimmed your marines 1/5 of a second faster, or because you can inject larvae one second faster, its won because you have consistently good macro and can make good decisions.

The infestor thing isnt a big deal since you can shift click infested terran and have them all come out at about the same time too.

Let the man do what he wants to, creating macros for more than one key is bannable but hes obviously not good at the game so i dont see how it effects anybody here.

None of us use the kind of macros you do, the only marcos we use aer ones which rebind one key to another key
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MolestedRabbit
Profile Joined May 2010
17 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-28 07:54:09
December 28 2010 07:52 GMT
#52
The game is only aware of the fact that a certain key was pressed. It has no idea if you pressed the key manually or somehow emulated it (it depends on the way you actually emulated the press, but generally... the game does not see the difference).

Speaking of morality.

You won't be allowed to use any sort of macro in serious tournaments. Apparently. That's why no serious player will ever use it. As for the trash players on the ladder (like you or me) – it depends on how seriously do you take the game. It is all about the attitude. If you consider using the macros okay, use it. If you don't – don't use it. Simple as that. If you are serious about the game and practice a lot, it doesn't even matter if your opponent uses it or not. Your opponent can't win a game with macros, he can just speed up some stuff. If I lose, it is not because my opponent used macros, it is because I lost. Do it better and you will win.
What? It isn't fair? Wake up, nobody gives a fuck about your opinion.

To all the "HULLO GUYS I MACRO, BUT MY MACROS ARE OK" guys: you either use it or not. Either admit it, or don't use it.
Phenny
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1435 Posts
December 28 2010 08:00 GMT
#53
Despite having a name that just screams troll, you probably have the best/most sensible post in this thread.
MolestedRabbit
Profile Joined May 2010
17 Posts
December 28 2010 08:05 GMT
#54
Does it? Have been using it for over 10 years by now.
roadrunner343
Profile Joined November 2010
148 Posts
December 28 2010 08:08 GMT
#55
On December 28 2010 15:30 MERLIN. wrote:
First off his "thirdparty" product is actually not thirdparty... Do you know what the definition of "thirdparty" is because blizzard created Starcraft, Starcraft Broodwar and Starcraft 2: Wings of Liberty. By this, if Blizzard's company creates a Mouse and Keyboard aimed at use for Starcraft that is no "thirdparty" product. So I geuss from your definition of cheating it's already a bit off, but I do understand where you are coming from, and I do agree it is "cheating" but if he isn't playing competetively then who gives a fuck.

Secondly, your point is never going to get across anyway because you do it in a rude and insulting manner "ope if he used steriods hehe... and got cut from varsity oh oh, heyyyyy that might be a good analogy for someone trying to learn SC and buying a product from Blizzard for the game and playing it with it's potential... I BETTER use this analogy to really fuck with this beginners head" who's just trying to get his name out a bit in the community.

How about you mind your P's and Q's so we can all just get along.

Merlin


You do realize this "third party" equipment really is "third party" equipment, right? Just because it has Starcraft 2 plastered all over it, doesn't change the fact that it is still a razer product.

The steelseries mousepads come with starcraft 2 art, if desired, but that doesn't make them any less of a third party product.

Macros are cheating. Plain and simple. I'm not bashing the original poster, because he obviously didn't know at the time of post, but now he does.
ixuz
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Sweden38 Posts
December 28 2010 08:10 GMT
#56
Binding keystrokes to one key is cheating. Why not just make a macro which injecting all larvas perfectly each 20th second.

"Damn this zerg doesn't miss any larva injects!", unfortunately he would be significantly worse at live tournaments.

binding keystrokes = cheating
remapping hotkeys = not cheating

Thanks
lewl lewl
chessiecat
Profile Joined December 2010
82 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-28 08:19:31
December 28 2010 08:11 GMT
#57
Well, I gotta say, I don't take the game seriously enough to cheat. Yeah, it's fun winning but it's not any fun cheating. I don't care for some of Blizzard's decisions with the interface.

Some of them are at best dated (lack of hotkey customization which is soon to be rectified) and at worst simply stubborn stupidity. I'm looking at you Zerg Macro mechanic. They need to add a button like the worker button that tells you when a Hatchery isn't making extra larvae. Even the stupidest battlefield commander can tell some idiot to 'Give me a report from the field when manufacturing is finished so we can start some more' but some of them make good sense.

Regardless, point being that some of these are considered genuine cheating by Blizzard (although the link that was shared earlier to an 'example' of Blizzard banning someone has expired and is from four months ago. )

And yeah, I tested making a macro for Zerg to Inject Larvae. Trust me, it doesn't work as well as I hoped. In fact, it's pretty terrible and I'm fairly certain I found the most refined way of doing that.
roadrunner343
Profile Joined November 2010
148 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-28 08:18:21
December 28 2010 08:16 GMT
#58
Not that I endorse it, but I would think a macro for larvae inject would be simple, assuming you use the same hotkey for your queens everytime.

Macro would look something like: 4, v, backspace, mouse button 1, and just have that loop however many times you want.

Still, glad you decided cheating wasn't worth it =)

EDIT: Would mapping keystrokes to mouse buttons be okay? Will that be introduced with 1.2? (I couldn't get the PTR to work for some reason)
LanTAs
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1091 Posts
December 28 2010 08:19 GMT
#59
Macros will get you banned, basically using extra buttons like macro keys like the ones on the side of the G110, Black widow, and many other keys. the extra buttons on the mouse is probably considered cheating if you use it.

Good luck, and dont get banned
chessiecat
Profile Joined December 2010
82 Posts
December 28 2010 08:20 GMT
#60
That's the actual macro I tried to use and it doesn't operate all that well. The A.I. is stupid and Queens tend to walk to the other side of the map instead of injecting about half the time.
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