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manicsquare
176 Posts
On August 10 2010 02:47 sjschmidt93 wrote: PvP: 11 gate, 13 gas, core asap, 50 gas, 3 more gates, pull probes out, research warp gate, in base proxy pylons, mass lots! Yay, wins everytime. Fix Blizzard. please tell me this is a troll and second that is basically a zeal rush not really a cheese. | ||
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blackodd
Sweden451 Posts
On August 10 2010 02:36 AncienTs wrote: On metalopolis you can pylon below the enemy's mineral line and and build cannons on the elevation after you've built one below. Then you can place two pylons at his ramp to prevent any retaliation while you build gates at your main. Now you've successfully stop your enemy from mining with 2~3 cannons. I don't even know why I'm sharing this. I'm having trouble with successful cannon rushes too, but this seems to work well. Cannon rushes are extremely map specific in it's execution. On LT you can also hide a pylon very well at the natural and then cannon on the high ground | ||
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sjschmidt93
United States2518 Posts
On August 10 2010 02:50 manicsquare wrote: please tell me this is a troll and second that is basically a zeal rush not really a cheese. Building no defenses so you can get four warp gates up, having no probes in gas after 50, building a bunch of proxy pylons in your opponents base, saving all chronoboosts for one building, and warping zealots into their mineral line isn't cheese? REALLY? | ||
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blackodd
Sweden451 Posts
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Viruuus
Germany451 Posts
10 depot 12 rax 15 OC 15 depot to finish wallin 15 marine(keep pumping) keep pumping scvs until you have close to 750 minerals, then make 5 rax at once hotkey all raxes and rally to one point and then spam "aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa" go to opponent and win especially powerful in 3v3 etc, since no single guy can defend vs one guy controlling like the first 30 marines, while the 2nd player gets to control a 2nd group of 30 marines and so on... | ||
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wishbones
Canada2600 Posts
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ShadowDrgn
United States2497 Posts
On August 09 2010 22:53 ayadew wrote: TvX Ultrafast banshee 9 depot + gas 11 rax 11 factory 11 starport + tech lab Banshee There's no reason to build a depot on 9. 10 gas 10 rax 11 depot 11 factory resume scv production and make a marine to kill scout 15 starport 16 tech lab (on factory or rax for float) 16 depot 16 banshee 20 OC banshee at 5:35 or so with 16 scvs 10 gas 10 rax 11 factory 11 OC 11 depot 11 starport 12 marine 14 tech lab 15 banshee 18 depot more scvs, second gas, marines/hellions as desired banshee at 5:30 or so with 16 scvs and about 200 more minerals, but the marine is much later and won't be able to prevent a scout. Much easier to get your second gas for fast cloak in this variation too. If you wall with the rax and factory and build the starport in the middle of your base, you can prevent scouting that way I suppose. | ||
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gogog0
12 Posts
On August 10 2010 02:38 ayadew wrote: What do you want improved? Post that instead of useless comments unless i'm missing something you can't build a starport until after factory is done | ||
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T0fuuu
Australia2275 Posts
On August 10 2010 04:16 gogog0 wrote: unless i'm missing something you can't build a starport until after factory is done Well yeah by the quality of ur posts ur missing alot. He means at 11 food, so cut scv production to get the building faster. | ||
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kandalf
12 Posts
Proxy reaper Proxy gates 6 pool seems to work well in 3v3/4v4 through gold , assuming good micro on the reapers However I would recommend the fourth person does something less all-iny (void-rays?) because it is hard to hit everyone with cheese in 4v4. | ||
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BlasiuS
United States2405 Posts
On August 10 2010 04:16 gogog0 wrote: unless i'm missing something you can't build a starport until after factory is done 11 factory 11 starport + tech lab this doesn't mean you start them both at the same time, just that you cut SCV production at 11, then don't make any more SCVs until after the starport is finished. You could also think of that as: 11 factory @ 100% factory, starport @ 100% starport, tech lab 11 banshee | ||
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Chronopolis
Canada1484 Posts
On August 10 2010 03:13 ayadew wrote: I added Plexa's korean 4gate instead.. it's much more powerful, and definitely and all-in cheese God that stuff is strong. If you 13 gated, your chances of stopping the rush sit at around 5%. Even if you save all chronoboost for warpgate, the opponent can just CB his probes and come out even or ahead in economy. | ||
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Senorcuidado
United States700 Posts
On August 10 2010 02:14 ScDeluX wrote: He used it twice on KOTB finals vs Idra and succeded once. Go on blip.tv/day9 and search history. Cant link it i'm at work sry. It was game 1 on Lost Temple, he put two cannons down to wall off the bottom of the ramp to stop the FE and contain the lings. Not sure I would call it cheese but it was brilliant either way. In game 2 he went forge first on Scrap Station but that was just to set up a wall for his expo, I don't think he built any cannons near Idra but it's been a while since I saw that game so I could be wrong. | ||
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blackodd
Sweden451 Posts
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Ephemerality
United States203 Posts
well, build pool at 7, two drones till 8, extractor trick to get 6 zerglings out Very small time difference and much better econ  cannon rush: 9 pylon, send that probe to a good location where the enemy is I like 11/12 forge build cannons, while at the same time pumping out more probes and building cannons to d base if need be obv doesn't work very well vs Z with the whole creep thing There's also the DT/Voidray rush, I'm gonna test it to see what gets them out the fastest Here's what I do: 9 pylon 13 gate 14 gas 15 gas 17 pylon 17 cybernetics core (might want to make a zealot if you need to, I was vs terran and scouted so I didn't) 20 twilight council (stargate here if void ray) 21 gate keep pumping probes and fill both gas' up with 3 probes once they finish while twilight council is being made (or if you have 50 extra gas before hand) research warpgates | ||
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blackodd
Sweden451 Posts
 please say when you have the optimal build order and I'll add them.. | ||
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max289
3 Posts
PvZ 9 pylon (Scout) 10 forge Then block zergs entrance with two pylons and place cannons behind the pylons. Keeps him in the base for a while hehe. | ||
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blackodd
Sweden451 Posts
On August 10 2010 18:52 max289 wrote: Mine is the best PvZ 9 pylon (Scout) 10 forge Then block zergs entrance with two pylons and place cannons behind the pylons. Keeps him in the base for a while hehe. Yeah it's super | ||
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blackodd
Sweden451 Posts
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viraltouch
United States299 Posts
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