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520
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2822 Posts
August 25 2010 20:17 GMT
#21
Can we keep the wanton bashing of DotA clones out of this thread? People can talk about and play whatever they enjoy.
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Darkstar_X
Profile Joined May 2010
United States197 Posts
August 28 2010 18:59 GMT
#22
I started Dota a little before 5.64, but most of my early playing was on that. It definitely had balance issues, just like early patches to HoN in the beta did. No reason not to have a eos type map for sc2, but it really needs some work, most notably in unit control - pathing and last hitting is absolutely horrendous.
NeoScout
Profile Joined April 2010
United States103 Posts
August 29 2010 04:57 GMT
#23
league of legends is the way to go
LonelyMargarita
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
1845 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-29 18:59:10
August 29 2010 18:57 GMT
#24
Change the title of this thread to "SotIS/HoN/DotA Comparison" and make a new thread where people ACTUALLY talk about SotIS strategy.

Right now this is the equivalent of a TvZ strategy thread where everyone is telling you to play protoss.
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Denizen[9]
Profile Joined July 2010
United States649 Posts
August 29 2010 19:10 GMT
#25
im a big dota/lol/hon fan, but i think sotis is a really ugly game, its really dark and cluttery
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Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-29 19:37:18
August 29 2010 19:14 GMT
#26
editted out
www.justin.tv/veisc2 ~ 720p + commentary
Zonel
Profile Joined May 2010
United States100 Posts
August 29 2010 19:36 GMT
#27
On August 30 2010 03:57 LonelyMargarita wrote:
Change the title of this thread to "SotIS/HoN/DotA Comparison" and make a new thread where people ACTUALLY talk about SotIS strategy.

Right now this is the equivalent of a TvZ strategy thread where everyone is telling you to play protoss.


I meant for the thread to be a strategy discussion but it has turned into this lol. I guess I should have known better. -_-
VorcePA
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1102 Posts
August 29 2010 19:40 GMT
#28
On August 30 2010 04:36 Zonel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2010 03:57 LonelyMargarita wrote:
Change the title of this thread to "SotIS/HoN/DotA Comparison" and make a new thread where people ACTUALLY talk about SotIS strategy.

Right now this is the equivalent of a TvZ strategy thread where everyone is telling you to play protoss.


I meant for the thread to be a strategy discussion but it has turned into this lol. I guess I should have known better. -_-


I think the mods wouldn't mind laying down the law if you asked them. This thread went off-topic from like post 3 :\
Shitposting
Trepanation
Profile Joined May 2010
United States111 Posts
August 29 2010 20:55 GMT
#29
You guys are acting like 1 month of release is gonna = perfect dota clone. Just give it time no shit its sloppy because the right person has yet to make it.
UberThing
Profile Joined April 2010
Great Britain410 Posts
September 09 2010 18:13 GMT
#30
I like this game. I find the MULE hero with his seeker missile is real good
Wag1
Spyridon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States997 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-10 05:13:32
September 10 2010 05:12 GMT
#31
On August 25 2010 01:14 CruS wrote:
I love UMS but I see no reason to play any dota clone on SC2 with LoL and HoN and DotA already being out there practically for free.

So.. I haven't really tried any of the dota UMS, are they any good at all?


I agree with the first sentence. If you dont own HoN, might as well play LoL for free instead of SotIS, as you will have the side effect of earning points to unlock stuff - which is pretty fun and addictive.

The faster pace of Storm is kinda cool, but the problem? Aside from the creeps being imbalanced.... the life is too low on everything! Everything dies too fast! How are you supposed to get last hits or deny the opponent when things drop so fast?

Not to mention the heroes are pretty crappy balanced, and have many skills that dont really offer much synergy to the rest of the character... and the item shop is crap...

It needs a lot of work. I think it has potential - like I said the faster pace is cool, but HP needs to be upped globally, and zerg/protoss creeps need to be balanced among other things. Balance is to be expected to need work because it's new - some things are obvious glaring problems though....

I havent played ma ny UMS that I actually enjoy yet, actually the soccer UMS that's on the forum here is the one I've liked most so far. I just wish ppl played it more, I only play it when my friends are on since it's not on top of popularity.

With crap maps like that dragonballz one up on popularity, I'm sure the real "good" ones are hidden gems at the bottom of population right now... sad.
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
September 11 2010 03:26 GMT
#32
this map needs AI. and maybe -ar also

I find ghost ridic, noob dont random always auto pick him.
Ranged, good stun, good escape, nuke + stun = owns half the crap.
Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
September 11 2010 03:47 GMT
#33
On August 26 2010 05:12 pinkydink wrote:
HoN is much better than LoL for only $30. If you want to play a Dota game seriously or competitively then HoN is by far the best. Even the WC3 Dota is better than LoL. If you don't have an extra $30 to spend on a game, then you're either 15 years old whose mommy won't let them use her credit card, or you don't deserve to live because you can't even make $30.

LoL = casual cartoony crap
Dota/HoN = for competitive game.


Well, shitloads of people can't make 30$ because their monthly salary in their countries is like 300$, you know,
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Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
September 11 2010 04:35 GMT
#34
So I'm guessing it's not balanced, there aren't many heroes or items, and there's no leaver protection or matchmaking and no reconnect feature.

Why would anyone play this over the already established HoN/LoL/DotA ?
Drium
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States888 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-11 05:05:39
September 11 2010 04:56 GMT
#35
I've been playing this when I get tired of laddering. I find a combination that makes people rage is the reaper and the hydra. Set like 3 or 4 mines in one spot then use the hydra skill that sends people up in the air and makes them land next to you to make them land on the mines. Not too practical but it feels awesome to pull off

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On August 26 2010 05:12 pinkydink wrote:
HoN is much better than LoL for only $30. If you want to play a Dota game seriously or competitively then HoN is by far the best. Even the WC3 Dota is better than LoL. If you don't have an extra $30 to spend on a game, then you're either 15 years old whose mommy won't let them use her credit card, or you don't deserve to live because you can't even make $30.

LoL = casual cartoony crap
Dota/HoN = for competitive game.


I'd say it's more like:

LoL = Fun, free, not to be taken seriously
SC2 = Competitive game
Dota/HoN = "Competitive" game
KwanROLLLLLLLED
crazeman
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
664 Posts
September 11 2010 05:22 GMT
#36
I gave the SC2 version of dota was a try a month back and it was nearly impossible to play because the camera was so zoomed in. You basically can't see enough on one screen without scrolling all the time.

also with how SC2 handles custom maps, in every game you're pretty much guaranteed with one guy who has no clue what the map is and only joined it because it was on the "popular" list.
DminusTerran
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1337 Posts
September 11 2010 09:09 GMT
#37
On August 26 2010 05:12 pinkydink wrote:
HoN is much better than LoL for only $30. If you want to play a Dota game seriously or competitively then HoN is by far the best. Even the WC3 Dota is better than LoL. If you don't have an extra $30 to spend on a game, then you're either 15 years old whose mommy won't let them use her credit card, or you don't deserve to live because you can't even make $30.

LoL = casual cartoony crap
Dota/HoN = for competitive game.


I also agree that HoN is better than LoL, but if you act like a douche nobody is going to listen to what you have to say, manner up...
Adeny
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway1233 Posts
September 11 2010 09:53 GMT
#38
I played this once. I was the high templar guy, which had pretty horrible skills, but I still won 1v4 (literally, the entire game, Everyone else quit because of a bug with teams or something). Then I never tried it again...
nihoh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia978 Posts
September 11 2010 11:11 GMT
#39
DotA is competitive like CS is competitive. It's not mentally and physically taxing every second like in SC2 and war3 and SC, however it takes skillful teamwork, communication, technique, timing.
Dont look at the finger or you will miss all that heavenly glory.
Iri
Profile Joined January 2010
150 Posts
September 12 2010 03:56 GMT
#40
I'm disappointed... this is a map with a ton of potential, and people are uninterested in it because it's not as polished as commercial games that have spent years in development under full teams? I have a lot of fun playing this map when I don't feel like laddering, and that's mostly what it's good for. Don't expect so much, and you won't be disappointed. And if you really want it to improve... play and contribute feedback to the developer.
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