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On March 05 2008 02:28 disciple wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2008 23:41 Agahnim wrote:On March 04 2008 21:29 disciple wrote:
Jaedong is still unstoppable ? You can only guess ! He got out from the GSI and OSL in the Ro8 and you can only speculate what would happen if he didnt face Flash in the both tournaments- besides Stork managed it to the final of GSI and in the semi of OSL and I dont give a shit who were his opponents , if you wanna be champion you have to beat everyone not losing in the Ro8, so Jaedong's is a bit overrated with his #2 spot, cause what-if and speculations doesnt prove he is the best. Warning! Jaedong hater detected. Heavily biased post polluting the thread. From the way you type I srsly doubt you even watched a single match of Jaedong. yes I did, you know, why dont you just take a look of his unstoppable performance in the last 10 games... jaedong is 5/5 ! and for that he is number 2 in the PR ! I dont hate him, I'm just saying that Stork, even thou didnt play spectacular has better results then the legend killer this month. If jaedong lose his match against kal he will have in his hands nothing else than shit, but he can still save his season, i hope he will
And IF stork loses to lux or flash again he has shit in his hands too, what's your point?
Need I remind you that Stork lost to Anytime in proleague final? Almost lost to Best in OSL Quarter-final? Then proceeded to stomp a few terrans on protoss maps and ultimately lost to flash? yea stork looked sooo strong this month. definitely deserved a spot above jaedong.
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Agree with the power rank. Much disappointed me the most in his recent matches.
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On March 05 2008 03:56 Agahnim wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2008 02:28 disciple wrote:On March 04 2008 23:41 Agahnim wrote:On March 04 2008 21:29 disciple wrote:
Jaedong is still unstoppable ? You can only guess ! He got out from the GSI and OSL in the Ro8 and you can only speculate what would happen if he didnt face Flash in the both tournaments- besides Stork managed it to the final of GSI and in the semi of OSL and I dont give a shit who were his opponents , if you wanna be champion you have to beat everyone not losing in the Ro8, so Jaedong's is a bit overrated with his #2 spot, cause what-if and speculations doesnt prove he is the best. Warning! Jaedong hater detected. Heavily biased post polluting the thread. From the way you type I srsly doubt you even watched a single match of Jaedong. yes I did, you know, why dont you just take a look of his unstoppable performance in the last 10 games... jaedong is 5/5 ! and for that he is number 2 in the PR ! I dont hate him, I'm just saying that Stork, even thou didnt play spectacular has better results then the legend killer this month. If jaedong lose his match against kal he will have in his hands nothing else than shit, but he can still save his season, i hope he will And IF stork loses to lux or flash again he has shit in his hands too, what's your point? Need I remind you that Stork lost to Anytime in proleague final? Almost lost to Best in OSL Quarter-final? Then proceeded to stomp a few terrans on protoss maps and ultimately lost to flash? yea stork looked sooo strong this month. definitely deserved a spot above jaedong.
its funny to compare the proleague final performance of stork and jaedong
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whoa..I don't think Flash should be over Jaedong
My opinion won't matter but Jaedong is a stronger player in general although Flash seems more consistent. Flash tends to cheese a lot which makes me mad often. Jaedong did make mistakes vs Flash's metal but Jaedong has a strong statistic win lose ratio. Jaedong brought down Bisu's legendary PvZ and beat Savior
I have to admit Flash is a very good player who rarely makes lots of mistakes but he's just not great enough to be #1.
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On March 04 2008 21:40 kramus wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2008 15:17 Macavenger wrote:
Luxury has been looking great in all matchups lately, definitely playing a more complete game than Stork overall How is Luxury playing a more complete game than Stork? I haven't really seen decent late-game management from him yet. He seems to muta harass against every terran, and speedling early on against every protoss, and if these fail, he has trouble beating strong opponents.
Because whether he's having to go through late games or not, Luxury is raping in all 3 matchups right now, and Stork is still basically useless against zerg. I know using TLPD to justify PR comments usually isn't good, but Lux is 7-3 in his last 10 ZvZ and ZvT, and 8-2 ZvP. Two of the vZ losses are to Jaedong, obviously, and he's beaten a good group of strong players in that span, including Jaedong, Stork, Much, and Bisu. That added to the fact that he hasn't lost yet this OSL and has been looking very strong marching through it is plenty of justification to say he's playing a more complete game than Stork, who had to have his coach go cry in public for him when he lost to a no-name Zerg in the MSL offline prelims.
Honestly, given that Stork has continued his choking habits in the GSI and only made it to the finals in the first place because he didn't have to play a Zerg in the tournament, I would place him lower than 4th at this point. I think he's lucky to even be holding on to that high of a position.
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On March 05 2008 09:00 Macavenger wrote:
Because whether he's having to go through late games or not, Luxury is raping in all 3 matchups right now, and Stork is still basically useless against zerg. I know using TLPD to justify PR comments usually isn't good, but Lux is 7-3 in his last 10 ZvZ and ZvT, and 8-2 ZvP.
but that doesn't change the fact that there is a good likelihood stork will beat him this friday
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Valhalla18444 Posts
there isn't a good likelihood, luxury is the favourite
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I don't understand how Sea got the 10th spot over iris. Come on, tell me the berserker didn't look amazing in all of his GSI games, he came out swinging furiously, and went down fighting vs. stork. Sea on the otherhand is doing the same thing he always does. Plays great group play games, then forgets how to play once he's in a bracket.
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What a load of crap. Jaedong should still be #1, he and Flash are pretty much equal right now. Even if Flash has played arguably barely better then Jaedong, Jaedong should get the benefit of the doubt. The last time Savior was #1 even though he had been losing to Bisu like crazy, you sure didn't toss him out so easily. I call garbage on this power rank. Clear bias in favor of Flash. I hope you're proud for jumping on the bandwagon like a bigot.
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On March 05 2008 16:18 Padrino.tQ wrote:
What a load of crap. Jaedong should still be #1, he and Flash are pretty much equal right now. Even if Flash has played arguably barely better then Jaedong, Jaedong should get the benefit of the doubt. The last time Savior was #1 even though he had been losing to Bisu like crazy, you sure didn't toss him out so easily. I call garbage on this power rank. Clear bias in favor of Flash. I hope you're proud for jumping on the bandwagon like a bigot.
There's no bias, Jaedong has been one of my favourite players since his debut. I even stated in the writeup that the fan in me would prefer Jaedong in the top slot, so basically you're a complete retard.
Oh, and that's a pretty fucking rude second post. Take a week off, and when you get back, never post like that again.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
On March 05 2008 16:16 Disarray wrote:
I don't understand how Sea got the 10th spot over iris. Come on, tell me the berserker didn't look amazing in all of his GSI games, he came out swinging furiously, and went down fighting vs. stork. Sea on the otherhand is doing the same thing he always does. Plays great group play games, then forgets how to play once he's in a bracket.
Iris got knocked out of OSC by a weak protoss and UpMagic. His GSI games were good, but Stork mangled him without even really having to play well. The Katrina game was close, but the rest really weren't.
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I think Sea will never win a league. Ever.
Hi Steve. Nice Pr.
I like it. Gogo Anytime!
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On March 04 2008 13:08 Sunyveil wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2008 12:59 tttt wrote:
Good rankings, IMO. The few things I disagree about:
I would put Stork at #3 over Luxury at #4. Stork is the best toss playing right now. His horrible choking in important situations shouldn't put him below Lux (who has yet to win anything big, while Stork has at least won WCG). I look at the PR in terms of #1 beats #2 etc. I can't see anyone but Lee Jae Dong or Flash beating Stork in a Bo5. there's something coming up called the "OSL"...
nvm
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Russian Federation4333 Posts
Everything is perfect exept Luxury > Stork and Kal.
Lux/Stork is really controvertial and a cse could be made for either player. The reason why people say Stork should be above Luxury is because he has been playing more games this month. Stork pretty much raped in GSI... facing no Zerg and on P imba maps that is. He had a buttload of games there. Luxury had fewer games, much fewer games. He was 4-2 and Stork was 12-6 in February (including march 1 GSI finals). I'd say they are even but either one above the other is legit.
Good thing that we have a decider of this argument coming up on the 7'th  .
edit: About Kal. He is a good player but he should not be above mind. Mind was taken out by Jaedong. Can't fault him for that. However he DOMINATED Nada. He was playing like the best damn TvTer on the planet in that series. Kal had P imba maps and was playing an inconsistent Light in the quarters. In the semis, Kal was actually the weaker player straight up. Jangbi dominated him in games 1 and 3 and Jangbi isn't even in the power rank. An unranked player being on par with a top 5? Doesn't look too good for the top 5. I'd say Mind 5'th and Kal 6'th. Mind is a stronger player thatn Kal. He just happened to run into Jaedong.
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On March 05 2008 16:47 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2008 16:16 Disarray wrote:
I don't understand how Sea got the 10th spot over iris. Come on, tell me the berserker didn't look amazing in all of his GSI games, he came out swinging furiously, and went down fighting vs. stork. Sea on the otherhand is doing the same thing he always does. Plays great group play games, then forgets how to play once he's in a bracket. Iris got knocked out of OSC by a weak protoss and UpMagic. His GSI games were good, but Stork mangled him without even really having to play well. The Katrina game was close, but the rest really weren't.
the katrina game still puzzles me, and the other games stork cheesed to hell. and that still doesn't change the fact that Sea is more fitting of the discription you gave much for the GSI, except in EVERY tournament.
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Germany2762 Posts
nice ranking, nothing to complain about...
the only thing i could say is that kal is maybe one or two spots too high in my opinion. but let's see how he does in the msl final. perhaps he's able to justify his rank.
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Cool, I very much agree with everything
Hoping to see Flash take the OSL
glhf GJ
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Fish Terran in #1! I agree with all of the rankings this month. Perhaps Luxury and Kal are a bit untested, but I guess we'll see how their form holds up this month.
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