Mostly negative because it confirms my suspicions that Blizzard had been holding back features for Heart of the Swarm that should have been in Wings of Liberty a long time ago.

Kezzer

United States1268 Posts

June 13 2012 22:44 GMT

#62

On June 13 2012 12:13 Zildjianeer wrote:
I wish they would make the oracle require skill. One click blocks every mineral patch? not fair

I am pretty disappointed about this too

BradenKuntz

Canada59 Posts

June 13 2012 23:29 GMT

#63

From what I've seen so far, it's looking pretty good. The only thing that really concerns me is the Viper and it's ability to grab units. I do think it is OP at this point, but as they've said, nothing is final yet, so I'm still hopeful. All in all it's looking to be pretty sick.
And on a side note, the minor changes in the interface (animations, telling you how many workers you have at a base) are pretty kick ass.

Fluffeh

Sweden66 Posts

June 14 2012 00:11 GMT

#64

Swarm Host / Oracle <3

NightTime

Canada7 Posts

June 14 2012 00:30 GMT

#65

I preatty mutch like what the've done to protoss, so for now i think it's satifying.

Probe1

United States17920 Posts

June 14 2012 01:02 GMT

#66

I'll hold my compliments or condemnation until I've actually played it.

Grobyc

Canada18410 Posts

June 14 2012 02:28 GMT

#67

Mildly negative. Couple things I like, but most of them seem like extreme changes, not enough subtle changes.

desarrisc

Canada226 Posts

June 14 2012 03:01 GMT

#68

Other than boringness of Warhound/Battle Hellions, all the other units seem quite inspired and interesting.

foxmulder_ms

United States140 Posts

June 14 2012 04:41 GMT

#69

Moderately negative here...

The main reason is, very personal: Removal of the carrier.

doffe

Sweden636 Posts

June 14 2012 07:04 GMT

#70

mostly positive so far, but thats all in my head.. I mean, until we actually see extensive playing with these units and try them out ourselves all opinions are what we expect the units to do, not what they actually will do. I really do look forward to a complete wipe of the metagame and all mid to lategame strategies. 6pool, 11-11 gate, 11 - 11 rax etc ofc will still be there :p

Kinda wish they would remove the widowmine though. If DB have said its not for pros dont add it. Cant see a reason why we need units that wont be used at all at the toplevel. I mean, 10s timer, its not like anyone should let that blow up in a group if its obvious enough what unit it sticks on. Make it valid for all levels and im fine with it though.

Berceno

Spain401 Posts

June 14 2012 09:11 GMT

#71

Guys, why are you whinning about balance? you should whine about the idea of x unit if u don't like it, it's clear that everything right now in the current state is pretty imbalanced.

I don't really like the viper (abduct) low micro intensive
Swarm host mmmm could be ok, but I hate the locus, with this and broodlords all matches with a zerg will be like dota
Oracle is really nice and a very clever unit, and yes the emtomb spell is so easy to cast, but it's too easy to counter too
Mothership core, this will fix pvp 100% and a lot of issues with pvz
warhound/battle helion- just standard compo, It looks nice
Widow Mine- this idea won't work at all, they must redesign it, what's the point to have this in the game if a pro player can easily avoid it?
tempest- same as widow mine, It won't work as it is now, but the idea it's not that bad

so definetely, I'm pretty excited but hots needs a lot of work yet

nenshoua

Brazil27 Posts

June 14 2012 12:02 GMT

#72

Toss looks amazing, even more mobile/versatile and solid than now..terran didn't need much , and zerg has new units but same problems...more micro for zerg is nice tho..

Dectilon

Sweden50 Posts

June 14 2012 12:10 GMT

#73

I think they're getting there. If they can give every race a little bit of area control, which seems to be what they're aiming for, I think it could make the game more interesting. I think the tempest seems a bit boring. It's a large protoss unit with an aoe attack. Seems familiar somehow... I think the carrier could still be salvaged with a bit of redesign. Say if you could give it different interceptor formations. One could be to have interceptors work like a PDD say, but only for the carrier using it. It would prevent carriers from being easily countered by say mass vikings, blink-ins or corruptor balls.

brobrah

220 Posts

June 14 2012 12:42 GMT

#74

On June 14 2012 13:41 foxmulder_ms wrote:
Moderately negative here...

The main reason is, very personal: Removal of the carrier.

They are still debating the carrier. It wasn't in the build at MLG but they haven't decided whether it's gone for good or not.

I'm more interested in the single player but I like the new units except maybe the warhound and the tempest. Warhound seems a little goofy to me. Tempest is just bad.

KevinIX

United States2472 Posts

June 14 2012 15:14 GMT

#75

I like the Zerg and Protoss changes. But the Terran changes have been very underwhelming. Battle Hellions are basically an a-move unit. Warhounds are an a-move unit. And Widow Mines are banelings that you don't even need to a-move with. I hope Terrans get a new caster. It's seems unfair for both Zerg and Protoss to get such amazing casters and Terrans are left with nothing cool. I mean just compare the new units:

Wow Viper! Can pull units into the swarm, can blind marines, and regenerate mana from feeding off buildings! Cool!
Oracle! Fly in and out blocking mineral patches and cloak units! Cool!
Hydra move speed! Hell yeah!
Burrowed Ultralisk charge! OH shit!
22 range Tempest! I don't even!
Mothership core? Town recall op!

Then you have Battle Hellions! They got armor. So... not that cool.
Warhounds! Bonus damage to mech! Sure. But... not that cool.
Widow Mines! Alright that's pretty cool, but not even as cool as Hydra move speed.

Something as simple as scrapping the Raven and giving Terran the Science Vessel with some sick new abilities would get me excited to play HotS Terran like no other. Right now I'm just looking forward to Z and P. Terran not so much.

BoondockVeritas

United States191 Posts

June 14 2012 15:23 GMT

#76

Did they really take out baneling land mines? Those weren't used enough anyway imo. If anyone has seen viper/hydra army from the last mlg I fear for protoss that can't find a way around that. Maybe even terran too.