EPTPretend this whole F91 thing never happened. JF vs Idra. Winner plays Strelok. Winner plays Nony.
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number1gog
United States1081 Posts
Pretend this whole F91 thing never happened. JF vs Idra. Winner plays Strelok. Winner plays Nony. | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21244 Posts
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hauton
Hong Kong743 Posts
Which, based on that screenshot, is more than I can say for Nony. He gets caught in his own lies and immediately tries to spin the wrongdoing onto Ash? For what? Screenshotting a convo when there was no admin around? Please. I don't claim to know either party involved but it is shameful the way you guys are unfairly attacking Ash for standing up for his friend. | ||
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H
New Zealand6138 Posts
On March 23 2009 08:44 hauton wrote: I don't claim to know either party involved but it is shameful the way you guys are unfairly attacking Ash for standing up for his friend. Except his friend hasn't been attacked once in the thread. | ||
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number1gog
United States1081 Posts
On March 23 2009 08:42 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Shaft F91 for nothing! What a great idea! That's what I thought when I read the original TSL announcement about the Chinese players being disqualified. It's not fair, but it's not for nothing. | ||
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hauton
Hong Kong743 Posts
On March 23 2009 08:50 H wrote: Except his friend hasn't been attacked once in the thread. Don't twist my words... when did I say people were attacking F91 in this thread? Please read. Ash is standing up for F91 because he feels the way the way this went down, especially Nony's behaviour, was unfair to F91. That's why he spoke up. Not as F91's manager, not as F91's representative. But as F91's friend. Just like fans of Nony are speaking up and fans of F91 are speaking up. He has that right. Whether you agree with what he's saying is an entire different subject. IMO, based on what I've read and seen, both parties made real concessions to try to get this event to work. But frankly, Nony could've dealt with the lag problem in a much better way, and it was quite BM the way he stormed out. The fact that he bold-faced lied about it in this thread further compounds my poor view of Nony in this situation. But anyways, that's my view. | ||
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baubo
China3370 Posts
I can't believe anyone would defend Nony or attack Ash after this. Look, if I were Ash, I'd be pretty damn pissed about it. And probably would've written a more vicious rant afterwards. Even if Nony forgot what he said in the heat of the moment(which is perfectly fine), he should at least not just outright deny the accusation. Say something like "I forgot what I did. If I did use the word fuck I apologize". Something like that. That said, I hope all parties kiss and make up because there really is no point in dragging this out more. Ash, just let it go. It really isn't worth it. Talk with the TL.net staff and see how you should move forward from here. IMHO I think you should just cancel this Liquibition. If non-Chinese foreigners can't handle the lag, either no more Chinese players in the future or just Chinese vs. Chinese in the future. | ||
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Kolean.Tellan
Belgium217 Posts
On March 23 2009 09:20 baubo wrote: seriously this few typed lines are seriously drawn out of their contextI can't believe anyone would defend Nony or attack Ash after this. Look, if I were Ash, I'd be pretty damn pissed about it. And probably would've written a more vicious rant afterwards. Even if Nony forgot what he said in the heat of the moment(which is perfectly fine), he should at least not just outright deny the accusation. Say something like "I forgot what I did. If I did use the word fuck I apologize". Something like that. That said, I hope all parties kiss and make up because there really is no point in dragging this out more. Ash, just let it go. It really isn't worth it. Talk with the TL.net staff and see how you should move forward from here. IMHO I think you should just cancel this Liquibition. If non-Chinese foreigners can't handle the lag, either no more Chinese players in the future or just Chinese vs. Chinese in the future. he says: fuck it i'm not playing ==> ACCORDING to lag, reschedule if u want if there's no lag then he says: dont know why i agreed to play a chinese player ==> like djeeze i should have known better im a 100% with nony on this and shame on you ash for blowing it up like this it seems some people are not to familiar with the american/english language | ||
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Halliday
Canada24 Posts
-for agreeing to the 3am series. -for being able to play with and without lag -agreeing to the score reset after going 2-0 Props to NonY also for sticking out that first and most of 2nd game despite the lag. Also, I for one would love to continue seeing more Chinese players, the lag problems can only get better from here as China's communication infrastructure is no doubt being slowly upgraded. Here's to hoping for the the issue to be resolved and epic games. | ||
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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
lag sucks ASS but it could totally be spun the other way into an excuse for losing even when it's fine sort this shit out pls cus both sides arguing over lag's just painfully bnet nublike. | ||
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kernl
84 Posts
It's well-known that nony is not exactly mannered. It's also well-known that a lot of people here at TL are fans of Nony nonetheless and will take his side whatever it is that's being discussed. There's no point in arguing unless you were in the game and thus able to judge how bad of a lag there really was or if it was just Nony's play that was bad. As for me, this whole discussion strikes me as a typical Nony-discussion on TL: admins and North Americans defending him against Europeans' accusations. Boring, biased, and totally senseless. Waste of time. I even regret wasting the minutes these lines take me to write. Stop plskthx. | ||
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Rus_Brain
Russian Federation1893 Posts
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YPang
United States4024 Posts
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Zozma
United States1626 Posts
Let's just call the flame war off and have Ash, NonY, and the TL admins work it out. I doubt that a bunch of people being judgmental is adding much. | ||
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
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baubo
China3370 Posts
On March 23 2009 09:29 Kolean.Tellan wrote: seriously this few typed lines are seriously drawn out of their context he says: fuck it i'm not playing ==> ACCORDING to lag, reschedule if u want if there's no lag then he says: dont know why i agreed to play a chinese player ==> like djeeze i should have known better im a 100% with nony on this and shame on you ash for blowing it up like this it seems some people are not to familiar with the american/english language This is some horrible spinning. How are you actually trying to twist 2 simple straightforward sentences. It doesn't take an American to understand that. Any foreign school children with some EFL class can figure it out. Hence, why Nony trying to deny it is so ridiculous. And as an American I'm actually quite annoyed by him and Idra representing my country. I mean, it's not as if I don't get enough flak for trying to explain to foreigners(as in non-Americans) why my country has Dubya for 8 years. | ||
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S.G)XY
United States8 Posts
You don't have ball to admit what you said this time, not to mention the 2 games you have lost. So I am 100% with ash | ||
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hahaimhenry
Canada368 Posts
On March 23 2009 09:29 Kolean.Tellan wrote: seriously this few typed lines are seriously drawn out of their context he says: fuck it i'm not playing ==> ACCORDING to lag, reschedule if u want if there's no lag then he says: dont know why i agreed to play a chinese player ==> like djeeze i should have known better im a 100% with nony on this and shame on you ash for blowing it up like this it seems some people are not to familiar with the american/english language You're an obvious NonY fan. That's all you've proven. It's ridiculous how you're trying to twist this whole thing into NonY's favour and I find it quite pathetic that you're doing that. What is said is said, you seem to be a bit paranoid that NonY is a BM guy, and because of your ignorance you don't realize NonY actually has a history of it much like IdrA. Don't kid yourself, both of them are extremely skilled and you can learn a lot from watching them play, but I haven't become obsessed like 90% of TL members. | ||
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
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ExSoldier
378 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + "It's well-known that nony is not exactly mannered." cant believe he was actually invited to korea where respect and manner is taken seriously... | ||
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