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pandabearguy
Profile Joined June 2008
United States252 Posts
March 27 2009 11:37 GMT
#381
Every post I've seen from Ash is nothing but class and manner, despite nony complaining or idra complaining or huge lag problems or whatever the case is. It's nice to see. Hope this issue is solved, I'm really looking forward to this match :D
aka [ucr]pandabearg. much <3
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-27 13:11:03
March 27 2009 13:07 GMT
#382
On March 27 2009 17:52 EscPlan9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2009 23:40 archaicon wrote:
f91 vs nony game 2:
[url blocked]
old link broken...


mega-shit-load's captcha is even worse than before. I haven't been able to guess the 4 characters five times in a row now i give up

someone mirror this somewhere else?

Lol... seriously man its not that difficult ^^


On March 27 2009 16:53 exkgb wrote:
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On March 27 2009 16:02 logicgosu wrote:
Nony has every right to be upset of the lag and say anything he wants as long as it is not intended for anyone. Ash, that is what we call democracy w/c china doesn't have, I feel sorry for you guys.


I don't even think Ash is from China ( Malaysia? ) and this comment is uncalled for. Yes America is a great place to live (I live here...) but every country has their own culture, tradition and way of life. Saying stuff like "I feel sorry for you guys because you don't have democracy" is just ignorant because someone from China might just as well say "I feel sorry for you because I don't like American food".


Whats funny is that even though theres so many democratic countries in this world its obvious that logicgosu must an ignorant american
(and before I get flamed, I like the US, you just unfortunately have a lot of people like that)
beep boop
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
March 27 2009 14:06 GMT
#383
On March 27 2009 16:02 logicgosu wrote:
Nony has every right to be upset of the lag and say anything he wants as long as it is not intended for anyone. Ash, that is what we call democracy w/c china doesn't have, I feel sorry for you guys.


WTF does the 1st amendment has to do with anything? What, F91 can't bitch about lag because he fears the Chinese secret police or something?

On a side note, your post is quite ironic considering the chaotic state of Chinese message boards. I really dislike them because they're so poorly moderated and people really do say whatever they want. Which leads to flame wars that dwarfs anything you might see on this baord, and even spills into real life.

OTOH, American message boards in general have good number of mods and people are generally much more well-mannered due to the control.
Meh
mIsUZu
Profile Joined August 2008
New Zealand528 Posts
March 27 2009 23:40 GMT
#384
I must say this conflict is purely about

A) NonY acting bad tempered after the losses (with lag) and saying things that was more than offending to the chinese gaming community.

B) Ash reacting incorrectly to the situation.

Nony has the rights to be pissed off since there WAS a lag and he clearly did say he refuses to play if there was. However, there was no need for him to say "fuck it, i never should have agreed to play chinese.." because this just shows sc-idraness and nony should know better.

No its wrong no matter what the excuse is, you can't blame the other entire community. Blame iccup server for not handling lag free games. Anyway this was over the line and nony should apologize.

Ash should also aplogize since despite having all those lag tests (1 with 10seconds long) there was lag which bothered the contender and he indirectly forced nony to continue. This was bad decision but I can also understand ash's frustration since Nony started the BM.

Then it got worse as it came over to TL and I still think nony is in the wrong since he lied about what happened and resulted in ash posting the pic of it and now both party becoming enemies.

To conclude, Nony owes an apology to ash for acting immature after the game, and Ash to Nony for not producing 100percent gaming environment for nony.

I just wish there is a rematch with no lag and no bm this time.
Why So Serious?!
JimSocks
Profile Joined February 2009
United States968 Posts
March 28 2009 02:01 GMT
#385
yo, i'm looking at the events calendar. did this get delayed to monday?
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
March 28 2009 14:53 GMT
#386
On March 28 2009 11:01 JimSocks wrote:
yo, i'm looking at the events calendar. did this get delayed to monday?


korea is like 16 hours ahead of PST.
PlutoNZ
Profile Joined February 2008
New Zealand410 Posts
March 28 2009 21:16 GMT
#387
On March 28 2009 11:01 JimSocks wrote:
yo, i'm looking at the events calendar. did this get delayed to monday?

Monday Korean time.
BalliSLife
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
1339 Posts
March 28 2009 21:37 GMT
#388
So is this played tommorow?
Ya well, at least I don't fuck a fleshlight with a condom on and cry at the same time.
EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
March 29 2009 00:21 GMT
#389
I had a lot of respect for Nony until all this commotion. I was okay with him being frustrated and not wanting to play anymore because of the game conditions being laggier than he expected. I was even okay with him being BM about it. But then when he posted his response and lied about what happened, I've lost respect for him. You have to at least own up when you do something wrong.

Anyways... looking forward to a good match tomorrow.
Undefeated TL Tecmo Super Bowl League Champion
Samurai-
Profile Joined May 2008
Slovenia2035 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-29 16:42:04
March 29 2009 16:40 GMT
#390
On March 22 2009 22:57 Liquid`NonY wrote:
After the second game, I didn't say what you said. The way you recount it gives a horrible impression of me. I didn't start anything with 'fuck' and the very last thing I said was that I shouldn't schedule matches with Chinese players at all.


On March 23 2009 02:46 Ash wrote:
3.
[image loading]

[image loading]



In the "white" corner, wearing very very white trousers, Ash, in the "black" corner, wearing very very black trousers, Nony..

One ring, to rule them all!
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5098 Posts
March 29 2009 17:21 GMT
#391
it's just lag issues come on guys, playing so far from each other of course there will be lag, i would be surprised if it was smooth and would be like woa what internet you guys have?

anyway i hope it's resolved now.
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
tttt
Profile Joined February 2008
United States386 Posts
March 29 2009 19:21 GMT
#392
I thought Nony was in Korea? Why is Ash talking about America-China connection problems?
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9104 Posts
March 29 2009 20:41 GMT
#393
That was... surprising.

I think NonY had the lead but since he was the one that left/dropped I think it should be a re-game.
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
March 31 2009 02:04 GMT
#394
On March 30 2009 04:21 tttt wrote:
I thought Nony was in Korea? Why is Ash talking about America-China connection problems?


NonY left Korea a few months ago due to personal reasons back home in the U.S.
ClockworkBlues
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada74 Posts
April 22 2009 07:50 GMT
#395
On March 25 2009 02:44 pure)3.41 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2009 02:37 7mk wrote:
On March 25 2009 01:18 vnlegend wrote:
Zerg has low-hp units that die very quickly compared to Protoss. Even without lag, Nony still would most likely lose. He gladly accepts a 0-0 restart from 0-2.

F91 is already a good player and doesn't need to exploit anything to win. If there's lag, then he is probably more adjusted, but to call him exploiting the lag in order to beat his opponents pretty pathetic. Especially since he rapes his opponents. It's not like tiny delays in micro made the difference and allowed F91 to beat them by a small margin.

As for Nony on Andromeda, he was getting out-macroed and was way behind in upgrades. Lag or not he was getting rolled.


howd you get the replays? ^^


replay link:

http://www.yaoyuan.com/show.php?SID=60189


Wow.

I read through a whole lot of this thread just for this link. But I enjoyed reading through all the drama becuase it was fucking hilarious. Thanks for posting the link 3.41.

To think that something like lag could inspire so many hateful remarks.
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