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nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
March 23 2009 04:55 GMT
#261
how is that screen shot not the whole thing? Unless someone photoshopped it?
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
March 23 2009 06:48 GMT
#262
god damn you people are a bunch of sandy vaginas
he didnt say fuck to ash or f91, he wasnt insulting them or being rude to them. 'fuck it' just means he was fed up with the situation, hence he was leaving. saying he shouldntve agreed to play chinese in the first place is pretty much just echoing the sentiments of strelok after his match vs f91, why arent you jumping on his ass for that? hell thats the same thing just about every foreigner says after playing with chinese players online.
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S.G)XY
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-23 07:42:23
March 23 2009 07:40 GMT
#263
On March 23 2009 15:48 IdrA wrote:
god damn you people are a bunch of sandy vaginas
he didnt say fuck to ash or f91, he wasnt insulting them or being rude to them. 'fuck it' just means he was fed up with the situation, hence he was leaving. saying he shouldntve agreed to play chinese in the first place is pretty much just echoing the sentiments of strelok after his match vs f91, why arent you jumping on his ass for that? hell thats the same thing just about every foreigner says after playing with chinese players online.


Clearly, the lag wasn't too bad at least from what f91 said in the screenshot. he said "go nony" means the game was playable for him. And when ash asked "is it still lagging?" F91: He(nony) said "still lags" (means OK for F91)
Chinminy
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
New Zealand41 Posts
March 23 2009 07:54 GMT
#264
this is outta proportion, but i still agree with ash.
I like... Really don't like flying in BF3
bludragen88
Profile Joined August 2008
United States527 Posts
March 23 2009 07:56 GMT
#265
How are there so many people with post counts under 10 in this thread... not that I'm a 'veteran' on the site either, but... if you really needed to make an account just to post in this thread, just do it with your real account. I feel like no real new member would pick this thread to start from, or at least no smart ones.
Hydrolisko
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Vanuatu1659 Posts
March 23 2009 08:02 GMT
#266
No respect lost for Nony. But lol @ the nony nut huggers in this thread... so blind. If Nony doesn't wanna play, NEXT! I want to see some matches plz.
kernl
Profile Joined October 2008
84 Posts
March 23 2009 08:34 GMT
#267
Idra, you are a very, very, very stupid person. Really.
desu
dNo_O
Profile Joined November 2008
United States233 Posts
March 23 2009 08:53 GMT
#268
ash didn't need to post what he did... was a pretty huge flame. 14 pages and counting wooooooh!
It is a profitable thing, if one is wise, to seem foolish.
Bob123
Profile Joined October 2006
Korea (North)259 Posts
March 23 2009 09:43 GMT
#269
Luckily this is Nony's fansite so he will get away lightly, but I think this is very unprofessional behavior.

If it lags you leave early, after < 4 minutes at least. You don't play 2 games, lose, and then go "Oh lagg, we can't play like this". The lagg would have affected F91 aswell (even if it affects races differently), so he must have thought it was playable conditions.

If this was Idra playing F91 you would not believe the amount of flak comming his way at this time. Be a professional audience, be objective and don't try to blame all previous F91 wins on lagg, now that the opportunity presents itself.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-23 10:05:06
March 23 2009 09:55 GMT
#270
On March 23 2009 15:48 IdrA wrote:
god damn you people are a bunch of sandy vaginas
he didnt say fuck to ash or f91, he wasnt insulting them or being rude to them. 'fuck it' just means he was fed up with the situation, hence he was leaving. saying he shouldntve agreed to play chinese in the first place is pretty much just echoing the sentiments of strelok after his match vs f91, why arent you jumping on his ass for that? hell thats the same thing just about every foreigner says after playing with chinese players online.


No he wasnt instulting them, but how can writing that and then leaving, instead of properly asking for a rematch not be rude
I mean surely your standards of politeness aren't that high so im not sure youre the right person to talk about what bm and not..
Also no matter if it was insulting or not, nony still lied about not having said it.

however people shoudlnt blow this out of proportion and starting accounts to state that you think nony sucks is incredibly constructive but maybe you should stop despite of that...
Even though im more on Ashs side on this one I kinda have to agree with this:
On March 23 2009 15:48 IdrA wrote:
god damn you people are a bunch of sandy vaginas

^^
beep boop
archaicon
Profile Joined March 2009
9 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-23 10:30:01
March 23 2009 10:16 GMT
#271
So here's nony's probalistic behavior during those first 2 games.

Instead of doing this:
-"oh shit
-"there's lag
-"I'm going to leave and postpone this

Nony did:

-"oh shit
-"there's lag
-"I'm going to go ahead and play this. if i win, f91 probably is too well mannered to complain about it
-"but if i loose, i'll TOTALLY complain about it

Now, any respectable observer will see this and post about it and this is exactly what ash has done. And what did you do? you attacked ash for bringing this to light.

Mondragon even said during his tl attack that you were bm

Mondragon said during TL Attack season 2 episode 4
mondragon, "oh yeah, it's nony.'
...
Chill, "so rage you had the right scent... but the talking just covered it up. the trash talk..."
...
Chill (to Mondragon), "I heard the word on the street is that you ... don't really get along with each other"
mondragon, "yeah it's probably true"
chill, "and what's the cause of that"
mondragon "well, i don't like his behavior when he looses and stuff. It's not really appropriate"


and now you post that you're trying to show 100% transparency and so when ash posts the evidence, you attack him?

On March 22 2009 23:03 Liquid`NonY wrote:
The purpose of the news post, I think, is just to inform people with 100% transparency.


On March 23 2009 02:46 Ash wrote:
Picture shows thousands of words so I'm not gonna talk about how you actually left the server immediately after game 2. The screenshot is enough proof to show that you didn't mention a thing about what you posted except for some bad language and rescheduling possibility.


And now when you say "FUCK, I should have never agreed to play..." , you deny saying fuck in front of everyone??

Jesus christ! and this guy is going to get away with leaving the game, right in the middle of it?

Don't go around telling people what to do and what not to do you stupid self-indulging, rule-breaking brat! Ash did what anyone would have done had they also observed the situation!

And this... another attack on ash that is completely false! I can't even believe he has the nerve to do this and get everyone else to think ash is wrong and he is right!;

On March 22 2009 23:03 Liquid`NonY wrote:
Your job is NOT to coerce your player's opponent into playing a match. Your job is NOT to question your player's opponent's decision. Your job is NOT to antagonize your player's opponent..


You're lucky chinese ppl like Ash who lives in Malaysia are willing to postpone and reset the entire 2-0 counter! Any other manager or team would have done something entirely different, like an automatic win for leaving the game!!
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3820 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-23 10:46:31
March 23 2009 10:44 GMT
#272
On March 23 2009 15:48 IdrA wrote:
god damn you people are a bunch of sandy vaginas

On second thought....So not worth it.
McCrank
Profile Joined March 2008
204 Posts
March 23 2009 11:40 GMT
#273
Playing 2 games, lose and then complain about lag is just bad.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
March 23 2009 11:56 GMT
#274
On March 23 2009 16:40 S.G)XY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2009 15:48 IdrA wrote:
god damn you people are a bunch of sandy vaginas
he didnt say fuck to ash or f91, he wasnt insulting them or being rude to them. 'fuck it' just means he was fed up with the situation, hence he was leaving. saying he shouldntve agreed to play chinese in the first place is pretty much just echoing the sentiments of strelok after his match vs f91, why arent you jumping on his ass for that? hell thats the same thing just about every foreigner says after playing with chinese players online.


Clearly, the lag wasn't too bad at least from what f91 said in the screenshot. he said "go nony" means the game was playable for him. And when ash asked "is it still lagging?" F91: He(nony) said "still lags" (means OK for F91)

clearly it wasnt bad by f91s standards
this discussion has been had 3 times already in this thread alone
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10761 Posts
March 23 2009 12:15 GMT
#275
F91 is the champ, beat him on his conditions or get out of the way for other challengers.

And for gods sake don't leave after 1.5 games...


Playing one game = agreeing to lag conditions.
Starting next game = agreeing to lag conditions.
Quitting midgame because of lag = incredibly stupid and bm.

complain/refuse to play at the beginning or don't at all.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25981 Posts
March 23 2009 12:37 GMT
#276
On March 23 2009 16:40 S.G)XY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2009 15:48 IdrA wrote:
god damn you people are a bunch of sandy vaginas
he didnt say fuck to ash or f91, he wasnt insulting them or being rude to them. 'fuck it' just means he was fed up with the situation, hence he was leaving. saying he shouldntve agreed to play chinese in the first place is pretty much just echoing the sentiments of strelok after his match vs f91, why arent you jumping on his ass for that? hell thats the same thing just about every foreigner says after playing with chinese players online.


Clearly, the lag wasn't too bad at least from what f91 said in the screenshot. he said "go nony" means the game was playable for him. And when ash asked "is it still lagging?" F91: He(nony) said "still lags" (means OK for F91)

Lol. Use your head. Of course Chinese people can play in lag their used to playing in it every day.

People are trying to create drama when there is none. They're going to fix the lag and replay the series. Get over it.
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Z.Kw
Profile Joined February 2009
China297 Posts
March 23 2009 13:06 GMT
#277
On March 23 2009 21:37 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2009 16:40 S.G)XY wrote:
On March 23 2009 15:48 IdrA wrote:
god damn you people are a bunch of sandy vaginas
he didnt say fuck to ash or f91, he wasnt insulting them or being rude to them. 'fuck it' just means he was fed up with the situation, hence he was leaving. saying he shouldntve agreed to play chinese in the first place is pretty much just echoing the sentiments of strelok after his match vs f91, why arent you jumping on his ass for that? hell thats the same thing just about every foreigner says after playing with chinese players online.


Clearly, the lag wasn't too bad at least from what f91 said in the screenshot. he said "go nony" means the game was playable for him. And when ash asked "is it still lagging?" F91: He(nony) said "still lags" (means OK for F91)

Lol. Use your head. Of course Chinese people can play in lag their used to playing in it every day.

People are trying to create drama when there is none. They're going to fix the lag and replay the series. Get over it.


How are Chinese players used to playing in lag everyday? They have their own offlines, their own server and when they are on ICCUP due to their time zone they play against other asian countries.

.....use your head?
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
March 23 2009 13:12 GMT
#278
On March 23 2009 21:37 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2009 16:40 S.G)XY wrote:
On March 23 2009 15:48 IdrA wrote:
god damn you people are a bunch of sandy vaginas
he didnt say fuck to ash or f91, he wasnt insulting them or being rude to them. 'fuck it' just means he was fed up with the situation, hence he was leaving. saying he shouldntve agreed to play chinese in the first place is pretty much just echoing the sentiments of strelok after his match vs f91, why arent you jumping on his ass for that? hell thats the same thing just about every foreigner says after playing with chinese players online.


Clearly, the lag wasn't too bad at least from what f91 said in the screenshot. he said "go nony" means the game was playable for him. And when ash asked "is it still lagging?" F91: He(nony) said "still lags" (means OK for F91)

Lol. Use your head. Of course Chinese people can play in lag their used to playing in it every day.

People are trying to create drama when there is none. They're going to fix the lag and replay the series. Get over it.



Hope theyre gonna get some nice relatively low ping games done

I gotta say though, despite being annoyed by all the people immediately starting to hate on one side, this whole thing makes the whole liquibition even way more hyped up and exciting ^^
beep boop
jeremycafe
Profile Joined March 2009
United States354 Posts
March 23 2009 13:36 GMT
#279
On March 23 2009 15:48 IdrA wrote:
god damn you people are a bunch of sandy vaginas
he didnt say fuck to ash or f91, he wasnt insulting them or being rude to them. 'fuck it' just means he was fed up with the situation, hence he was leaving. saying he shouldntve agreed to play chinese in the first place is pretty much just echoing the sentiments of strelok after his match vs f91, why arent you jumping on his ass for that? hell thats the same thing just about every foreigner says after playing with chinese players online.


This is why I have no desire to follow your progress in korea. You give a bad image to american gamers in korea. You don't understand what is BM and what isn't. I understand you are just acting your age, but it doesn't excuse it. There is a professional way of going about things, and swearing and closing down the game is not one of them.

I would have more respect for nony if the screenshot showed "Hey, this lag is really becoming an issue, can we reschedule?" Saying fuck it and signing off is trashy behavior. Why TL would even have a rematch is beyond me. Find a new player who would appreciate the opportunity and move on.
mmdmmd
Profile Joined June 2007
722 Posts
March 23 2009 13:52 GMT
#280
On March 23 2009 15:48 IdrA wrote:
god damn you people are a bunch of sandy vaginas


Ouch!
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