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On March 23 2009 16:56 bludragen88 wrote:
How are there so many people with post counts under 10 in this thread... not that I'm a 'veteran' on the site either, but... if you really needed to make an account just to post in this thread, just do it with your real account. I feel like no real new member would pick this thread to start from, or at least no smart ones.
This means these international events are attracting players in other countries to TL.net. Which is a good thing both for TL and the foreign SC community.
With SC2 coming out, the more ppl come to TL.net, the better it will get.
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On March 23 2009 21:37 Chill wrote:
Lol. Use your head. Of course Chinese people can play in lag their used to playing in it every day.
People are trying to create drama when there is none. They're going to fix the lag and replay the series. Get over it.
Seriously, this post just shows you have NEVER played inside China before and you just assumed that ppl in China are used to lag. Some people might be creating drama when there is none, but you are creating "facts" when there are none.
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On March 23 2009 21:37 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2009 16:40 S.G)XY wrote:On March 23 2009 15:48 IdrA wrote:
god damn you people are a bunch of sandy vaginas
he didnt say fuck to ash or f91, he wasnt insulting them or being rude to them. 'fuck it' just means he was fed up with the situation, hence he was leaving. saying he shouldntve agreed to play chinese in the first place is pretty much just echoing the sentiments of strelok after his match vs f91, why arent you jumping on his ass for that? hell thats the same thing just about every foreigner says after playing with chinese players online. Clearly, the lag wasn't too bad at least from what f91 said in the screenshot. he said "go nony" means the game was playable for him. And when ash asked "is it still lagging?" F91: He(nony) said "still lags" (means OK for F91) Lol. Use your head. Of course Chinese people can play in lag their used to playing in it every day. People are trying to create drama when there is none. They're going to fix the lag and replay the series. Get over it.
Thats not true. 
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On March 23 2009 22:36 jeremycafe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2009 15:48 IdrA wrote:
god damn you people are a bunch of sandy vaginas
he didnt say fuck to ash or f91, he wasnt insulting them or being rude to them. 'fuck it' just means he was fed up with the situation, hence he was leaving. saying he shouldntve agreed to play chinese in the first place is pretty much just echoing the sentiments of strelok after his match vs f91, why arent you jumping on his ass for that? hell thats the same thing just about every foreigner says after playing with chinese players online. This is why I have no desire to follow your progress in korea. You give a bad image to american gamers in korea. You don't understand what is BM and what isn't. I understand you are just acting your age, but it doesn't excuse it. There is a professional way of going about things, and swearing and closing down the game is not one of them. I would have more respect for nony if the screenshot showed "Hey, this lag is really becoming an issue, can we reschedule?" Saying fuck it and signing off is trashy behavior. Why TL would even have a rematch is beyond me. Find a new player who would appreciate the opportunity and move on.
the fact that he said a naughty word gets your panties in a bunch and you're implying im immature?
you can sit there bitching and moaning all you want. fact is when you're playing a competitive match and you're forced to play in shitty conditions its gonna frusterate anyone. strelok is by all accounts one of the best mannered foreigners, and he said he hoped hed never have to play a chinese player in a tournament again cuz of lag and latency issues after the match vs f91. nony did not take his frusterations out on either ash or f91, whats the big deal?
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On March 23 2009 21:37 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2009 16:40 S.G)XY wrote:On March 23 2009 15:48 IdrA wrote:
god damn you people are a bunch of sandy vaginas
he didnt say fuck to ash or f91, he wasnt insulting them or being rude to them. 'fuck it' just means he was fed up with the situation, hence he was leaving. saying he shouldntve agreed to play chinese in the first place is pretty much just echoing the sentiments of strelok after his match vs f91, why arent you jumping on his ass for that? hell thats the same thing just about every foreigner says after playing with chinese players online. Clearly, the lag wasn't too bad at least from what f91 said in the screenshot. he said "go nony" means the game was playable for him. And when ash asked "is it still lagging?" F91: He(nony) said "still lags" (means OK for F91) Lol. Use your head. Of course Chinese people can play in lag their used to playing in it every day. People are trying to create drama when there is none. They're going to fix the lag and replay the series. Get over it.
this is totally not ture and just your own assumpsion, In china ,they have several league played almost every week and there are lots of offlines/onlines game event, let me just give you some of the name: offline games: IEF, PGL, CHINA-KOREA friendly, NEOTV Star League, PLU Live, G-League (online game at cellectiving phase , offline games at final stage), not to mention hundreds of small offline events in different cities. the thing you said Chinese people can play in lag before they used to playing in ti everyday is not really ture. there are online games/offline games almost 50%-50%, and people prefer fast speed and no lag of course, and the connection between china-china and china-korean is not that lag as you saw it. that's the environment chinese gamers played everyday!
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Okay, obviously I was implying the connection speed between China and the rest foreign world. I'm not meaning to create facts - laggy countries have more experience with lag. Shocker!
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that doesnt change the fact that they are signifcantly more used to playing in lag then the average foreigner. after both my match and the one vs nony he said he didnt feel lag while we both did.
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Oystein already said the same thing from his own experience playing F91, on how F91 was micro-ing perfectly in the lag.
It's nobody's fault, but it's certainly a huge advantage.
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They tried the connection today again. This time nony says it's fine and the games will be played some time within this week. Hope for an epic clash.
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On March 24 2009 00:48 Ash wrote:
They tried the connection today again. This time nony says it's fine and the games will be played some time within this week. Hope for an epic clash.
WOW looking forward to it
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On March 24 2009 00:48 Ash wrote:
They tried the connection today again. This time nony says it's fine and the games will be played some time within this week. Hope for an epic clash.
Here it comes!
The greatest clash so far in Liquibition!!!!
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looking forward to some nice games with good conditions and make love not war again
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On March 23 2009 23:37 IdrA wrote:
the fact that he said a naughty word gets your panties in a bunch and you're implying im immature?
you can sit there bitching and moaning all you want. fact is when you're playing a competitive match and you're forced to play in shitty conditions its gonna frusterate anyone. strelok is by all accounts one of the best mannered foreigners, and he said he hoped hed never have to play a chinese player in a tournament again cuz of lag and latency issues after the match vs f91. nony did not take his frusterations out on either ash or f91, whats the big deal?
Yes it is a big deal. It is your job, you, and nony, should work as professionals. When I am sitting in a meeting and there are technical issues holding things up, I don't get up and say fuck it and walk out. That is how you lose a job.
Hopefully you will learn this lesson before your team lets you go for the bad image you are creating.
g
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On March 24 2009 01:30 jeremycafe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2009 23:37 IdrA wrote:
the fact that he said a naughty word gets your panties in a bunch and you're implying im immature?
you can sit there bitching and moaning all you want. fact is when you're playing a competitive match and you're forced to play in shitty conditions its gonna frusterate anyone. strelok is by all accounts one of the best mannered foreigners, and he said he hoped hed never have to play a chinese player in a tournament again cuz of lag and latency issues after the match vs f91. nony did not take his frusterations out on either ash or f91, whats the big deal? Yes it is a big deal. It is your job, you, and nony, should work as professionals. When I am sitting in a meeting and there are technical issues holding things up, I don't get up and say fuck it and walk out. That is how you lose a job. Hopefully you will learn this lesson before your team lets you go for the bad image you are creating. g
Um. Looking professional to the foreign community has no bearing on Idra.
-B money squared
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On March 24 2009 00:48 Ash wrote:
They tried the connection today again. This time nony says it's fine and the games will be played some time within this week. Hope for an epic clash.
This is the only post meaningful in the whole thread.
Let's hope for epic games.
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I just want to say that I respect TL and what you guys are tryin to do, but I think you guys can do better.
Not sure what goes on behind the scenes, but you guys should at least have a ref / admin / whatever present and logged on when you are trying to run a major event.
Second, most of your events that I've seen usually involve some sort of prize money paid out to the winner, and sometimes the loser just for participating. Why not attach some strings to that prize money that say you have to be GM when competing in a TL event? People being BM and acting rude would get fined and have their winnings cut. I bet BM in your events would be non-existent and people would treat each other with respect.
Just throwing some ideas out there. Keep up the good work guys!
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Wow, this thread has really brought out the worst in people. And by that I don't mean the people it concerns but random idiots whos scream and whine for something they shouldn't even care about.
There are some very angry people on this side of the pond that looks down on Nony and american players because they see them as rivals too their precious Draco, White-RA, Strelok. Don't get me wrong, I love watching these players and greatly respect their skill and the effort they put in to be among the best. The ones I have a problem with is the fans that blindly follow just one or a few players and hate everyone else. It's like you're retarded sports fans that love your team but hates everyone else just because people told you that's how it works. Grow up and learn to appreciate all top players for their skill and dedication, Whether or not you like their personality.
Also you people need to STOP relating other europeans (like myself) with yourself because this is not europe vs america. This is a few crazy people vs the sane majority.
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Nony has always been bitchy about lag, even in his VODs. It's one thing to play without normal battle.net latency or with actual lag spikes, but if the game worked with high lan latency, a foreign player should have nothing to complain about.
Complaining that lag makes it hard to cast storm? Not that F91 actually has to try and dodge the storm in lag. Or even worse, complaining that F91 is abusing the lag simply by sending his units to attack? Was Nony born a gosu yesterday?
Then he lies in a post, gets called out on it, but still tries to defend himself. As far as i'm concerned Nony still has a lot to prove, and he doesn't have much right to act all high and mighty when far more established players can deal with issues like this much more maturely.
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nony has rights to refuse the game if its laggy but he could do it much more manner.
The things he did now its just like piss off the Liquibition so badly
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On March 24 2009 05:44 Devilbat wrote:
nony has rights to refuse the game if its laggy but he could do it much more manner.
The things he did now its just like piss off the Liquibition so badly
Dose he still have the right to refuse the game after he lost 2 and demand a fresh rematch? I mean comon, it's more like trying to find an excuse for his loses right?
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